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Michael - The Great Album Debate

Here you go, Korgnex.


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"Two of Michael Jackson's children are adamant?some of the soon-to-be released MJ song tracks are frauds. As we have been reporting, Sony will be releasing a Michael Jackson album before Christmas, featuring 10-12 original tracks. We're told five of the tracks were recorded at the New Jersey home of record producer Eddie Cascio. Michael and his kids stayed at Cascio's family home for four months in 2007, when the tracks were recorded, along with remixes that were released on the 'Thriller 25' album. The Jackson family believes the Cascio tracks in question were fakes?sung by a Michael Jackson sound-alike. We're told Prince says he was upstairs at the Cascio's house when many of the tracks were recorded and was able to hear the music, and none of what he heard matches the Sony tracks. We're also told Paris is 'adamant'?she does not believe her dad's voice is on the tracks in question." ? TMZ, Novemeber 3, 2010

http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/02/micha...aris-children-katherine-jackson-eddie-cascio/


"Sony Music isn't buying the claim of Katherine Jackson and two of Michael Jackson's kids that some of the tracks on a soon-to-be-released MJ album are fake?because one of the tracks in question is about to be released on MichaelJackson.com on Monday (November 8). The song?'Breaking News'?was recorded in 2007, at the New Jersey home of Eddie Cascio. Jackson and his kids lived in the house for four months while Michael was recording. We're told Prince, Paris and Katherine now believe the Cascio tracks are fake?not Michael's voice." ? TMZ, Novemeber 4, 2010

http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/04/micha...ks-katherine-jackson-prince-paris-new-jersey/


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"There are many MJ vocal impersonators?some better than others?but there is only one Michael Jackson. Deceptively merging shady vocals with MJ samples will never fool me. Why they would ignore the obvious, look the other way, and rush a suspicious track ('Breaking News') that was never on my uncle's radar is beyond me. I'm disgusted, disappointed and saddened." ? TJ Jackson, November 7, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tjjackson/status/1473867142926336


"['Breaking News'] Sounds like Jason Malachi to me, too. The vibrato is a dead give away that it's not my uncle. Fans, I am so sorry you were put through this. If you heard the a cappella, you would be even more disgusted. Sampled breaths after sampled breaths mixed in with fake vocals to try to fool you." ? TJ Jackson, November 8, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tjjackson/status/1505173436366848
http://twitter.com/#!/tjjackson/status/1508043674099712


"They should only release songs that everyone knows are my uncle. No one questioned the vocal of 'This Is It,' and no one is questioning the vocals on the majority of the upcoming songs on the 'Michael' album, either. But there are songs slated to appear that are very questionable. If sonically there are deep questions, and there is no tangible evidence to prove otherwise, than it doesn't belong. Period." ? TJ Jackson, November 8, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tjjackson/status/2436321800880128


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"I am shocked that things have gotten this far. This is ridiculous. I was at the studio when these questionable files were delivered. I heard these so-called 'Michael Jackson songs' raw and without the distraction of the well produced music by Teddy Riley. How they constructed these songs is very sneaky and sly. Many people who have worked on this project either have strong doubts and questions, while others know the truth, yet decided to turn and look the other way with their hands out for money. I will never look the other way. Right is right, truth is truth, facts are facts, and it will all come out! I tried so hard to prevent this craziness, but they wouldn't listen. I know my uncle's voice and something's seriously wrong when you have immediate family saying it's not him. Don't you have to wonder why? I have strong, undeniable points. They can't give me answers, yet continue to move forward with lies and deception. Sounding like Michael Jackson and being Michael Jackson are two different things." ? Taryll Jackson, November 7, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tarylljackson/status/1462456811524096


"To all the MJ fans, regarding the song 'Breaking News,' I am so sorry you have to deal with this. My uncle loved you so much and would not want it this way. However, there are songs that are my uncle singing on the upcoming album and I will support those 100%. But I will not support 'Breaking News' and a few others because it simply is not him. They tried to fool me and they tried to fool you. I told them it would never happen." ? Taryll Jackson, November 8, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tarylljackson/status/1512592094789632


"If you question the validity of a professional photo, you can ask the photographer for more pictures from that photo shoot. If it is authentic, the photographer will turn over different shots?some with different poses, some even with eyes closed. I questioned the validity of the vocals on 'Breaking News' and several other songs of theirs that I've heard, and they told me no other takes or tracks exist. They claim my uncle was so happy with the performance, he instructed them to delete all the other files. I had the honor to learn and watch my uncle record my entire life and that is not how he worked. No outtakes, no other tracks, no backups, no proof. Roughly ten songs they turned in?same story for all of them. I asked for the computer it was created on; they said it broke. I asked for the original hard drive; they said it was destroyed. One dubious excuse after another." ? Taryll Jackson, November 8, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tarylljackson/status/1555116024922112


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"I can't believe they released a Michael Jackson single ('Breaking News') that's not really him! Trust me, people! I sat in a session where we solo'd the vocals and it was just someone set up to sound like [Michael], and the only parts that really sounded like him were the samples from older records of his. There was nothing that was consistent with any of his previous recordings as far as vocal control or just plain habits. Last but not least, when we asked if there were any outtakes or alternate tracks, they said that they were erased because they needed to make room on the hard drive! Who does that? Tell me who would erase anything with Michael Jackson's voice?" ? Cory Rooney, November 8, 2010

http://i.imgur.com/gIRy6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/2sdXA.png


"YouTube 'Jason Malachi.'" ? Cory Rooney, November 8, 2010

http://i.imgur.com/2sdXA.png


"I have read the statement [in defense of the Cascio tracks] from the MJ Estate, and I have to say that it's just more bullshit! I was in that room, and the majority of the people mentioned did not agree that it was MJ! Some felt it sounded like him, but all agreed that there was nothing there that was consistent with any MJ habits like finger snaps, headphone bleeding, foot stomping or just simple things like his voice asking for another take. Both Dr. Freeze and Teddy Riley sat with Taryll Jackson and myself and stated that they felt what we felt." ? Cory Rooney, November 2010

http://i.imgur.com/2sdXA.png


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"It ('Breaking News') doesn't sound like him (Michael Jackson) to me." ? Rodney Jerkins, November 8, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/ONLY1DARKCHILD/status/1740613628207105


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"There are things that don't sound right to me. There is a heaviness, where Michael's voice was pure and light. There is a 'holding back' quality to the voice in 'Breaking News' that is not like Michael. MJ always rehearsed his voice doing scales while with me getting ready for performance. This part in the song really sounds wrong to me. I am not an expert. It makes me so sad. The charade continues." ? Karen Faye, November 8, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/wingheart


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"I'm no forensic audiologist, but as a lifelong MJ fan, the vocals on the 'new' song don't sound a thing like the King of Pop to me." ? Darren Hayes, November 8, 2010

https://twitter.com/#!/darrenhayes/status/1664721291845632


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"A lot of you have been asking me about this. My friend John McClain (co-executor of the Michael Jackson estate) and I have insisted for many weeks to have certain tracks removed from Michael's new album. Unfortunately, our concerns were not taken seriously." ? Jackie Jackson, November 9, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/JackieJackson5/status/2040553185214465
http://twitter.com/#!/JackieJackson5/status/2040574249017344
http://twitter.com/#!/JackieJackson5/status/2040667903627264


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"Is anyone else tripping out as much as I am over the new 'Michael Jackson song'? Why does it sound nothing like him?! [...] Definitely doesn't feel like him." ? Chucky Klapow, November 9, 2010

https://twitter.com/#!/chuckyklapow/status/1734671494815745
https://twitter.com/#!/chuckyklapow/status/1784586233184257


"I just listened to 'Breaking News' once more. Wow! What a sad disaster. When did Michael become merely a back up vocalist? [...] What is Sony thinking? This has to be some kind of joke, right?" ? Chucky Klapow, November 9, 2010

https://twitter.com/#!/chuckyklapow/status/1797803214897152
https://twitter.com/#!/chuckyklapow/status/1831690553004032


"I just played 'Breaking News' for my sister and she goes, "Who is this?" [...] You should see her face right now. Classic." ? Chucky Klapow, November 9, 2010

https://twitter.com/#!/chuckyklapow/status/1832909195452416


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"There are 7 great, no doubt, 100 percent Michael Jackson songs on the new album. I will always support those." ? Taj Jackson, November 10, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tajjackson3/status/2406059876556800


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"Out of the ten songs listed [on the upcoming album] only seven of them are Michael Jackson. Someone just asked me, 'Is Keep Your Head Up real or are we being lied to again?' Sorry, but you won't like my answer." ? Taryll Jackson, November 12, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tarylljackson/status/3259672974852096


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"Yes, I heard a bit of the new MJ song ('Breaking News'). Doesn't sound anything like him. Very weird." ? Jennifer Batten, November 12, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/mondocongo/status/3128184019095552



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"I agree with you all. These vocal that we are hearing on the new release of my brother Michael is not 100% him. Sony should have known you can't fool the family and our fans. We are against this 1000%. As you can see, this was done for greed!" ? Jermaine Jackson, November 13, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/status/3516387012124672
http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/status/3516616457326593
http://twitter.com/#!/jermjackson5/status/3516755473338368


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"(Listens to 'Breaking News' a cappella) Still sounds dodgy to me." ? Darren Hayes, November 12, 2010

https://twitter.com/#!/darrenhayes/status/3299775617179649


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"Me and my nephew were the first to say that it wasn't [Michael's] voice on some of the tracks." ? Randy Jackson, November 17, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/randyjackson8/status/5098222410272768


"Some of the songs [on the new album] are [Michael] and some aren't. I would bet my life on that. I know this may seem harsh, but this is the truth, as I know it." ? Randy Jackson, November 17, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/randyjackson8/status/5109796940292096
http://twitter.com/#!/randyjackson8/status/5110068211089408


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"I remember when Teddy and I were at Encore listening to ['Keep Your Head Up']. We both knew it wasn't my uncle. He stopped working on it because, and I quote, 'it didn't sound enough like Michael. Michael doesn't swing like that.' He also said he was only working on the Cascio records in hopes that he would eventually be given a 'real Michael Jackson song.' As he knows, I never agreed with that logic. I'll never forget when Teddy called me telling me, 'I'm so excited, I finally got a Michael record. It's called Hollywood Tonight and it's him.'" ? Taryll Jackson, December 6, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tarylljackson/status/11962597628706817


"Frank [Cascio] hurt and betrayed my uncle years ago, so when I learned about Eddie [Cascio], I wasn't completely shocked. The names are different but the story's the same. People taking advantage of my uncle and now his legacy. I wish Oprah would have asked about the ridiculous amount these fake songs were sold to the estate for." ? Taryll Jackson, December 6, 2010

http://twitter.com/#!/tarylljackson/status/11967068366704640


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"I [produced] Jason Malachi's records, which is why I know those vocals [on 'Breaking News'] are him. I recorded [with Jason] for ten years off and on. We never could get him as tight as Michael, 'cause Michael can really sing. Jason is tone deaf." ? Tony Kurtis, December ~14, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRfzf8KT2sc


"[...] they pitched the vocals to try and make [Jason] sound more like Michael. I have Michael Jackson a cappella vocals, as well. You can pitch MJ's vocals all day, but they won't sound anything like that [voice on 'Breaking News']. MJ's singing technique is ten times better than Jason's. Jason can only fool himself thinking he sounds like MJ. No pitch change can bring out a person's true voice like you hear here." ? Tony Kurtis, December ~14, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRfzf8KT2sc


"MJ's vibrato isn't as fast as Jason's, plus Jason over uses his. Michael can really sing?he don't use it as much." ? Tony Kurtis, December ~14, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRfzf8KT2sc


"[...] I believed in him, but what he is doing now is wrong, and after all the talks we had about him one day being on a record with Michael, I would have never thought Jason would have went out like this." ? Tony Kurtis, December ~14, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRfzf8KT2sc


"Michael's kids are right: that's not daddy's voice, as they said. How are you gonna tell MJ's mom what her own son sounds like? She knows. I thought Jason was a good person that really loved Michael's music." ? Tony Kurtis, December ~14, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRfzf8KT2sc


"I have studied MJ for years and I produced Jason for years. I can tell every detail of their vocals apart. [...] I am only speaking on this recording ('Breaking News') because I know without a doubt that it's Jason." ? Tony Kurtis, December ~14, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRfzf8KT2sc


"[Jason] is a liar, and a two-year-old can hear that this is the same person. [...] I am saying as a sound expert this recording is without a doubt Jason Cupeta. [...] I only want justice for Michael's music. Don't put out fake recordings of MJ and tell people it's him. [...] I know Jason's voice from anybody. [...] it is Jason, based on me working with him, training him and knowing his voice." ? Tony Kurtis, December ~14, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRfzf8KT2sc


"I know it's Jason. Sony should have made a 'Jason' CD, but now I wouldn't buy that 'cause he disrespected MJ's name. [...] The songs are fake. That's my opinion. [...] I can pick Jason's voice out of 50 voices playing at the same time. [...] This record is not Michael. If I knew how to get in contact with his family, I would 'cause this is really wrong." ? Tony Kurtis, December ~14, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRfzf8KT2sc


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"I'll be frank with you, some songs [on the album] are [Michael] and some are not. Yes, I think one or two of the songs that I heard is his voice, but the other ones, no, I don't believe that's Michael whatsoever." ? La Toya Jackson, July 1, 2011

http://garyduff.exci.us/ (Audio interview)


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"My view now is that they (the Cascio tracks) def sound strange and more transparency is needed. [...] I think it would be helpful to learn more about the origins. [...] They sound strange to me." ? Joe Vogel, September 2011

http://twitter.com/#!/JoeVogel1/status/113705646377021440
http://twitter.com/#!/JoeVogel1/status/114934969570295808
http://twitter.com/#!/JoeVogel1/status/116316912996192256


"[Regarding the songs 'Breaking News' and 'Monster' appearing in the Immortal rehearsals] Personally, there are about 200 others I would use before." ? Joe Vogel, September 18, 2011

http://twitter.com/#!/JoeVogel1/status/115563969632153600


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"I'm convinced that 'Michael' contained fake vocals. [...] Those three tracks sound nothing like MJ. It's absurd that they thought they could get away with including them. The controversy was enough that the album didn't so especially well, at least." ? Charles Thomson

https://twitter.com/#!/CEThomson/status/164868543152799744
https://twitter.com/#!/CEThomson/status/164872511950028800
https://twitter.com/#!/CEThomson/status/164873757167595520


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Keep in mind, that's not even all the quotes.
 
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The quotes are interesnting to read...i believe them...What did they have to gain? 10 seconds of fame...

Cascios gain? unknown sum of $$$$
 
StellaJackson said:
The former and yes are the answers but I don't want to get too involved. I hope that makes sense.
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thank you. I just wanted to know the basics and I didn't plan to ask more or put you in a weird place. so again thank you.

edited to add: actually I probably would want to know in which country as well but it's okay you don't want to answer.
 
ADKIc3mAnX said:
I listen to MJ only so I know his voice and I believe the people that MJ trusted so yeah.

And yes I hear 2 different people Michael Jackson and Jason Malachi on those other videos where they are comparing the songs.
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I also hear 2 different people. jason malachi and michael jackson. I'm asking if you think the voices in the first comparison sound MORE similar or LESS similar than in the second comparison.

@KOPV lol your answer doesn't "bug" me. It confuses the hell out of me, sure.
 
I will say this and I'm sure at least 90% of you will agree with me no matter what side of the fense you are on..

I REALLY HOPE THAT NO MORE CASCIO TRACKS ARE RELEASED!!


Plus I am pretty sure after seeing the list found in MJ's house in 2009 that he did not plan to release Cascio tracks so...
 
KOPV said:
I will say this and I'm sure at least 90% of you will agree with me no matter what side of the fense you are on..

I REALLY HOPE THAT NO MORE CASCIO TRACKS ARE RELEASED!!


Plus I am pretty sure after seeing the list found in MJ's house in 2009 that he did not plan to release Cascio tracks so...
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.....and I'm pretty sure that it's because he didn't sing them :fear: :D
 
azsummergirl said:
I also hear 2 different people. jason malachi and michael jackson. I'm asking if you think the voices in the first comparison sound MORE similar or LESS similar than in the second comparison.

@KOPV lol your answer doesn't "bug" me. It confuses the hell out of me, sure.
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Like I said before to me it sounds like Michael Jackson on all 3 Cascio songs and I hear someone else too James Porte.
 
KOPV said:
I will say this and I'm sure at least 90% of you will agree with me no matter what side of the fense you are on..

I REALLY HOPE THAT NO MORE CASCIO TRACKS ARE RELEASED!!


Plus I am pretty sure after seeing the list found in MJ's house in 2009 that he did not plan to release Cascio tracks so...
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I'm one of the 10% I actually wouldn't be mad if they released more material that MJ recorded in 2007 like Soldier Boy.
 
@Calisto: Most of these quotes are a) hearsay (I was referring to WHAT THEY HAVE SAID and NOT what someone else CLAIMS they shall have allegedly said!) and contain b) vague information and c) do NOT even say which songs should not be Michael. It seems like you purposely keep on forgetting what Paris Jackson claimed about "Hollywood Tonight" and how much nonsense any of the Jacksons are always talking, like LaToya who thinks she knows details about Michael's alleged "murder" but cannot present them to a court. *lol*


You should REALLY read them more properly. The only direct accussations come from Taryll Jackson, Cory Rooney and Taj Jackson, Randy Jackson and Tony Kurtis, of course.

Your quote of Rodney Jerkins is EXACTLY what I told you. He's just saying that the song doesn't sound like him. That has NOTHING to do with authenticity!
Karen Faye also admits she's not an expert and she just says what she thinks is wrong with the song TO HER. She doesn't claim them to be fake.


Please READ these quotes more carefully!
 
Of all the public statements of people who said that these songs are not his or does not sound like him, Tony Curtis' one seems to be most valuable to me. Here we have the alleged impostor's former producer recognizing his former client's voice on a new, posthumous Michael Jackson album and and sharing this news with the world. Now why would he do something like that if he didn't think thats the truth, what would he have to gain from it?. I have not heard yet an excu... explantion as to why he did it. Did he also wanted to work on the songs but he couldn't or is he some lost, forgotten Jackson family member who like the rest of them is jealous of the cascios?
I admit that he unnecessarily made an impression as if he was in possession of the original Breaking news recording, but he never claimed that in his youtube posting. He just presented what he though the orginal would have sounded like hence the slight processing. His comparison clip wouldn't have less or more value if it did not pitch the BN accapella down. It doesn't matter, really. It's his statement that matters. I just wonder why he disappeared so unexpectedly just two days later.
 
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ADKIc3mAnX said:
Like I said before to me it sounds like Michael Jackson on all 3 Cascio songs and I hear someone else too James Porte.
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Ok, i know you think it sounds "like" michael jackson. everything is going to sound "like" michael jackson. My question is, of these 2 comparisons:
http://www.box.com/s/x5ptznfnfhxte6b198b7
http://www.box.com/s/3n6t8v0lejsu307r8i4i

in which one do the 2 voices sounds MORE SIMILAR to each other? i'm not asking which ones sound the most like michael, or which one has backing by James Porte, or which one is melodyned, or ANY of that. i'm saying each comparison is comparing 2 tracks. in which comparison do the singers on the 2 tracks sound most like each other? the first one or the second one?

pretend you've never heard michael OR jason, and you're just listening to it for the first time. What would you honestly think?
 
Willy said:
Of all the public statements of people who said that these songs are not his or does not sound like him, Tony Curtis' one seems to be most valuable to me. Here we have the alleged impostor's former producer recognizing his former client's voice on a new, posthumous Michael Jackson album and and sharing this news with the world. Now why would he do something like that if he didn't think thats the truth, what would he have to gain from it?. I have not heard yet an excu... explantion as to why he did it. Did he also wanted to work on the songs but he couldn't or is he some lost, forgotten Jackson family member who like the rest of them is jealous of the cascios?
I admit that he unnecessarily made an impression as if he was in possession of the original Breaking news recording, but he never claimed that in his youtube posting. He just presented what he though the orginal would have sounded like hence the slight processing. His comparison clip wouldn't have less or more value if it did not pitch the BN accapella down. It doesn't matter, really. It's his statement that matters. I just wonder why he disappeared so unexpectedly just two days later.
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Agree, his statement sounds very convincing.

It's not just him that disappeared. It's gotten very quiet on the side of all the people who once questioned the voice/lyrics on the tracks :(. If any more Cascio songs are officially released, maybe then we'll hear from them again.
 
Willy said:
I just wonder why he disappeared so unexpectedly just two days later.
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Malicious falsehood. Talk is cheap and talk like that is penal and the accused parties have injunctive reliefs regarding such smear campaigns.
You'll see that any imaginable legal title will become time-barred because no-one wants to lose a major trial and embarrass themselves.
 
Korgnex said:
Please READ these quotes more carefully!
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This was my original and only statement regarding the list of people:

"Everyone on that list has spoken negatively about the Cascio tracks (either publicly or reportedly)."

And this was your response:

"Erm, nope. That list is hugely exaggerated. Go and find what these persons have said indeed."

Then, at your request, I did just that—providing over 35 quotes relating to the 17 persons in question, plus two more individuals (Joe Vogel and Darren Hayes) who I had forgotten to mention.

All 35+ quotes are in reference to the Cascio tracks. (If that isn't clear to you, try actually clicking the linked sources I provided.) All 35+ quotes speak negatively about the songs.

Additionally, I specifically mentioned in my original statement that some of the dissenters (a mere four out of the 19 total) were from secondhand reports.

Edit: I'll leave it at that.
 
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Soldier Boy was registered in copyright I believe before 2007, so how did 'MJ' record it if it was registered before 'he' recorded the songs? I'm confused.
 
@Calisto: We were talking at cross purposes. I didn't pay attention to your key feature of "negative talk", I was talking about direct accusations all the time. Your list will always remain exaggerated as long as people like John McClain or the kids don't actually say anything about the songs.

So far it's just 5 people who have made direct accusations and that was my point.


Trying to have a rational discussion with me is hopeless? Very nice words. Funny, when people like me explain things about US Copyright Office registrations, where is the rational discussion then? It's missing as this is a sore spot for all of the conspiracy theories due to the fact you always have to come up with ideas how they could have cheated their way through the legal obligation to produce proof and that it's somehow a "perfect crime" that no-one can disclose but everyone of you knows all about it.


P.S. I cannot be wrong about McClain as long as he never talks about the songs. If you want to believe in hearsay, than this is up to you. And to just give you an example: The Twitter account of Paris Jackson was supposed to be fake for a long time because she said "Hollywood Tonigt" would not be her dad. Until the confirmation that the account is real this claim was hearsay only. And that's still the case with everything about John McClain's alleged opinion on the Cascio recordings.
 
Korgnex said:
Malicious falsehood. Talk is cheap and talk like that is penal and the accused parties have injunctive reliefs regarding such smear campaigns.
You'll see that any imaginable legal title will become time-barred because no-one wants to lose a major trial and embarrass themselves.
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Tony Curtis is still online, still has a website and still stands by what he said. It is only the original video that was removed on grounds of copyright. Plus he received a lot of hate from "believers". He also made attempts to contact members of the family, including Marlon.
 
dam2040 said:
Soldier Boy was registered in copyright I believe before 2007, so how did 'MJ' record it if it was registered before 'he' recorded the songs? I'm confused.
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Because several of the songs were intended for Porte and recorded by him. In fact these recordings were registered in March 2008 as JPEC (James Porte Eddie Cascio) collection. Of course, no mention of Michael. Remember that they only need to register the written compositions in order to protect their work. A hundred other singers could come along and sing cover versions of the Cascio tracks, with the copyright holders permission of course, but it doesn't mean the songs would have to be registered another hundred times.
 
StellaJackson said:
Because several of the songs were intended for Porte and recorded by him. In fact these recordings were registered in March 2008 as JPEC (James Porte Eddie Cascio) collection. Of course, no mention of Michael. Remember that they only need to register the written compositions in order to protect their work. A hundred other singers could come along and sing cover versions of the Cascio tracks, with the copyright holders permission of course, but it doesn't mean the songs would have to be registered another hundred times.
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Ahh thanks ;) But didn't they re-register the songs in 09, and all of a sudden MJ was involved? Is that right?
 
dam2040 said:
Ahh thanks ;) But didn't they re-register the songs in 09, and all of a sudden MJ was involved? Is that right?
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Correct. They were reregistered to reflect Michael's involvement. The "ason comiplations" from 2010, which were registered just days after the Sony deal was announced most likely contain the songs that were not even written at the time of Michael's death I believe. Also, several of Jason's songs that had been publicly available for years, were suddenly registered for the first time just three weeks before the "ason compilations". I believe ason is angelickson. It's what they contain that counts.
 
If people are working on a court case, I'd be happy to help in any way I can. I want the truth to come out, and I'd rather be proven wrong (the songs are fake) than for the uncertainty to continue forever.

As for all the quotes, opinions and everything by "celebrity" doubters : talk is cheap. Anybody can say anything, and hold on to whatever opinion they want. But the facts don't support the hoax theory.

As for the registration info, as far as we can tell, it supports what has been the official theory all along : Porte and Cascio wrote those songs for James Porte, Friedman heard some of them in their original incarnations, MJ agreed to lay down some vocals for them, and those incomplete, sub-standard vocals are what has been turned into the released Cascio songs. Again, everything fits, with no need to think of any conspiracy.
 
kreen said:
If people are working on a court case, I'd be happy to help in any way I can. I want the truth to come out, and I'd rather be proven wrong (the songs are fake) than for the uncertainty to continue forever.

As for all the quotes, opinions and everything by "celebrity" doubters : talk is cheap. Anybody can say anything, and hold on to whatever opinion they want. But the facts don't support the hoax theory.

As for the registration info, as far as we can tell, it supports what has been the official theory all along : Porte and Cascio wrote those songs for James Porte, Friedman heard some of them in their original incarnations, MJ agreed to lay down some vocals for them, and those incomplete, sub-standard vocals are what has been turned into the released Cascio songs. Again, everything fits, with no need to think of any conspiracy.
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Except there is not one scrap of evidence that Michael ever recorded these songs, just the word of those who got paid. They all sound identical to a known impersonator who has shown a clear motive by his past behaviour. And there is no known processing technique that changes a voice, including pronounciation, to that extent as a by product. If there is, then I would like someone to take any of Michael's demos or moments where he is singing while out and about (LWMJ) and give it the Cascio vibrato, accent and pronounciation. And why are you prepared to believe a hack like Friedman over the numerous people who have spoken out about the tracks?
 
StellaJackson said:
Correct. They were reregistered to reflect Michael's involvement. The "ason comiplations" from 2010, which were registered just days after the Sony deal was announced most likely contain the songs that were not even written at the time of Michael's death I believe. Also, several of Jason's songs that had been publicly available for years, were suddenly registered for the first time just three weeks before the "ason compilations". I believe ason is angelickson. It's what they contain that counts.
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'ason compilations' Is that the name for what they were filed under?
 
StellaJackson said:
Correct. They were reregistered to reflect Michael's involvement. The "ason comiplations" from 2010, which were registered just days after the Sony deal was announced most likely contain the songs that were not even written at the time of Michael's death I believe. Also, several of Jason's songs that had been publicly available for years, were suddenly registered for the first time just three weeks before the "ason compilations". I believe ason is angelickson. It's what they contain that counts.
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Complete, wild speculation, that has no basis in any facts at all. All of this is imagination.

Here, I'll do some myself : I believe that the "MJStudio" visuals that were registered by Cascio contain footage of Michael Jackson singing Monster, because they were registered 3 weeks after a rumour started going around that such footage existed. They probably got scared somebody had gotten hold of a copy, and registered it. It was supposed to be included as promotion for the Monster single, but it never came out, because of disappointing sales of the album. It will now be used on some later project.

Let's focus on known facts instead.
 
kreen said:
If people are working on a court case, I'd be happy to help in any way I can. I want the truth to come out, and I'd rather be proven wrong (the songs are fake) than for the uncertainty to continue forever.

As for all the quotes, opinions and everything by "celebrity" doubters : talk is cheap. Anybody can say anything, and hold on to whatever opinion they want. But the facts don't support the hoax theory.

As for the registration info, as far as we can tell, it supports what has been the official theory all along : Porte and Cascio wrote those songs for James Porte, Friedman heard some of them in their original incarnations, MJ agreed to lay down some vocals for them, and those incomplete, sub-standard vocals are what has been turned into the released Cascio songs. Again, everything fits, with no need to think of any conspiracy.
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What if:

The Cascio's and Porte wrote songs, wanted MJ to do them. He never did, so they got JM in to record them. They then concluded the tracks were recorded from a time when they could 100% say he was at their house, and bingo, You have 'Michael Jackson' songs. It fits.
 
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