Michael - The Great Album Debate

Sony confirms Michael Jackson release dates; Attorney issues statement relating to 'fake' vocal rumours

<!-- Item Author -->By Mark Devlin | 12 November 2010


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<!-- Item fulltext -->The first official single from the upcoming Michael Jackson album, 'Michael', is to be 'Hold My Hand', his record label Sony Music has confirmed. The track is a duet with Akon, and is to get its UK release on Sunday 28th November, with the album to follow on 13th December. Meanwhile, Sony has further addressed the rumours that the lead vocals on Jackson's 'Breaking News' track are not the artist himself, by releasing a statement from the Attorney for the deceased star's estate.
'Hold My Hand' was recorded in 2007. Sony has said that a handwritten note from Michael belonging to his estate indicated his desire that the song be the first single on his next project. However, in its unfinished state, the song leaked out in 2008. Akon recently completed the new and final production of &#8220;Hold My Hand.&#8221;
Akon has commented: &#8220;The world was not ready to hear &#8216;Hold My Hand&#8217; when it leaked a couple years ago. We were devastated about it. But its time has definitely come; now in its final state, it has become an incredible, beautiful, anthemic song. I&#8217;m so proud to have had the chance to work with Michael, one of my all time idols.&#8221;
Sony has now confirmed the full track listing for 'Michael' to be as follows:
1. Hold My Hand (Duet with Akon)
2. Hollywood Tonight
3. Keep Your Head Up
4. (I Like) The Way You Love Me
5. Monster (Featuring 50 Cent)
6. Best Of Joy
7. Breaking News
8. (I Can&#8217;t Make It) Another Day (Featuring Lenny Kravitz)
9. Behind The Mask
10. Much Too Soon
The official statement from Howard Weitzman, Attorney for the Estate Of Michael Jackson, reads as follows:
There is nothing more important to the Estate than Michael&#8217;s music, his legacy and his fans.
As the Michael album was being put together, it was decided to bring Teddy Riley on board to work on several songs, including &#8220;Breaking News,&#8221; a song Michael recorded with Eddie Cascio and James Porte in late 2007 while living at the Cascio family home with his children. Riley produced and submitted &#8220;Breaking News&#8221; to Sony for inclusion on the album. At that time, no one ever mentioned that the vocals we heard on the Cascio songs, which were basically in demo format, might not be Michael. It was known, however, that the background vocals were a combination of Michael and James Porte. [...]


WHERE ARE THOSE DEMO FORMAT VOCALS????



[...]After the tracks were submitted to Sony, three of these Cascio songs were selected to be on the album, and &#8220;Breaking News&#8221; was one of the three. The day after the submission and selection of the album tracks, for the very first time, the authenticity of Michael&#8217;s vocals on the Cascio tracks was questioned. [...]

WHY WERE THEY QUESTIONED, BY WHOM AND WHY ONLY THE CASCIO TRACKS WERE QUESTIONED -- I fail to see the explanation in this article?


[...]Because of these questions, I was immediately asked by co-Executors John Branca and John McClain to conduct an investigation regarding the authenticity of the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks.
Six of Michael&#8217;s former producers and engineers who had worked with Michael over the past 30 years &#8211; Bruce Swedien, Matt Forger, Stewart Brawley, Michael Prince, Dr. Freeze and Teddy Riley &#8211; were all invited to a listening session to hear the raw vocals of the Cascio tracks in question.[...]


AGAIN, WHERE ARE THOSE RAW VOCALS? WHY DON'T WE FANS -WHO ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY YOU AS YOU SAID- GET THE CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THOSE RAW VOCALS???

[...]All of these persons listened to the a cappella versions of the vocals on the Cascio tracks being considered for inclusion on the album, so they could give an opinion as to whether or not the lead vocals were sung by Michael. They all confirmed that the vocal was definitely Michael. [...]

GIVE US FANS THE CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE A CAPPELLA VERSIONS OF THE VOCALS! IF A WHOLE SONG WHICH IS NOT ON THE ALBUM CAN LEAK, A REAL A CAPPELLA COULD LEAK TOO. LEAK THEM OR STREAM THEM, WE FANS WILL LISTEN TO THEM AND GIVE OUR OPINION TOO. REMEMBER, YOU TAKE OUR OPINION SERIOUSLY, SO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR TO LET US GIVE OUR OPINION ON THOSE A CAPPELLAS?



[...]Michael&#8217;s musical director and piano player on many of his records over a 20-year period, Greg Phillinganes, played on a Cascio track being produced for the album, and said the voice was definitely Michael&#8217;s. Dorian Holley, who was Michael&#8217;s vocal director for his solo tours for 20 plus years (including the O2 Concert Tour) and is seen in the This Is It film, listened to the Cascio tracks and told me the lead vocal was Michael Jackson.
These are all engineers, producers and musicians who worked on tours and/or in the studio with Michael when he was recording Bad, Thriller, Off The Wall, Dangerous, Invincible, HIStory and Blood On The Dance Floor, and they all reconfirmed their belief that the lead vocals were Michael&#8217;s voice on the Cascio tracks.[...]

THEIR BELIEF????!!!!!!!


[...]The Estate then retained one of the best-known forensic musicologists in the nation to listen to the vocals without any instrumental accompaniment (&#8220;a cappella&#8221;), and to compare them with a cappella vocals from previous Michael songs. This expert performed waveform analysis, an objective scientific test used to determine audio authenticity, on the Cascio tracks, as well as previously released tracks with Michael&#8217;s voice, and reported that ALL of the lead vocals analyzed (which included Cascio tracks) were the voice of Michael Jackson. [...]

FIRST, NON-CASCIO TRACKS WERE NOT QUESTIONNED! SO OF COURSE THEY ARE MICHAEL'S.

SECOND, THE SO CALLED WAVEFORM ANALYSIS IS NOT COMPLETE! INDEED, IF A SOUNDALIKE HAS AN EXTREMELY CLOSE VOCALS TO THE ORIGINAL ONE, THE WAVEFORM WILL MATCH AS IF THE SAME SINGER IS SINGING THEM.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GEORGE MICHAEL IMITATOR (LIVE!!!), CAN YOU SAY THE DIFFERENCE? I BET THE WAVEFORM ANALYSIS WOULD SHOW THE SAME VOICE, IT'S A MUST SEE:

[youtube]ULkD7ckrhUc[/youtube]


IN ORDER TO MAKE THE ANALYSIS COMPLETE YOU NEED TO COMPARE OTHER VOCALS TOO! IN THIS CASE, THEY NOWHERE MENTION THAT THEY COMPARED THE CASCIO TRACKS TO JASON MALACHI'S VOCALS! I BET THE AUDIOLOGISTS WOULD HAVE HAD QUITE A SURPRISE HAD THEY DONE THAT!

[...]Sony Music conducted their own investigation by hiring yet a second well-respected forensic musicologist who also compared the a cappella lead vocals from Cascio tracks against previously released vocals of Michael&#8217;s, and found that it was Michael&#8217;s voice on all sets of the raw vocals. The Cascio tracks were also played for two very prominent persons in the music industry who played crucial roles in Michael&#8217;s career. Both of these individuals believed that the lead vocals were Michael&#8217;s.[...]

BELIEVED!!!????


[...]Just to be absolutely certain, I also contacted Jason Malachi, a young singer who some persons had wrongfully alleged was a &#8220;soundalike&#8221; singer that was hired to sing on the Cascio tracks, and I confirmed that he had no involvement with this project whatsoever. [...]

CONTACTED? AS IN, HI JASON, DID YOU SING THOSE SONGS? DID YOU THINK HE WOULD SAY YES I DID?

HOW ABOUT SUBMITTING HIS RAW VOCALS AND A CAPPELLAS TO THE AUDIOLOGISTS AND COMPARE THE WAVEFORMS? WHY NO ONE HAD THE IDEA TO DO THAT?

[...]Sony decided that, given the overwhelming objective evidence resulting from the exhaustive investigations outlined above, they wanted to release a record that included three of the Cascio-Porte tracks &#8211; because they believed, without reservation, that the lead vocal on all of those tracks were sung by Michael Jackson. [...]

BELIEVED??? ONLY AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD FOLLOWING THE INCOMPLETE OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS!

IN MY OPINION AFTER READING THIS ARTICLE SONY GOT DUPED! THEY ACTUALLY QUESTIONED THE TRACKS AND DECIDED TO ABIDE BY WHAT THE AUDIOLOGISTS SAID WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO COMPARE THE RAW VOCALS WITH JASON MALACHI'S VOCALS!


[...]Although there still seem to be concerns being expressed in some quarters about the authenticity of the lead vocals,[...]

OF COURSE THERE ARE CONCERNS! EARS CAN HEAR BETTER THAN WAVEFORM ANALYSIS BASED ON VISUAL INTERPRETATION OF WAVES RENDERED BY SOFTWARES.

[...]notwithstanding the opinion of those who worked with Michael, and two independent forensic analysts, ultimately, Michael&#8217;s fans will be the judges of these songs, as they always are. We take all fan comments very seriously, and as I&#8217;d stated above, there is nothing more important to the Estate than Michael&#8217;s music, his legacy and his fans. [...]

THIS IS BLATANTLY UNTRUE! MICHAEL'S FANS QUESTION THOSE TRACKS AND WE ARE NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE RAW VOCALS.

WHEN THE FANS DEMAND TO COMPARE THOSE VOCALS WITH JASON MALACHI'S, IT IS NOT DONE.

WHEN THE FANS ASK FOR SONGS SUCH AS SLAVE TO THE RHYTHM INSTEAD OF THE CASCIO TRACKS, NOBODY CARES.

SO HOW IS THAT TAKING FANS SERIOUSLY?


[...]Michael&#8217;s fans are extraordinary in their quest for accuracy and their passions to raise their voices in a search for truth! We join with them in our care and concern for Michael. We are continuing to follow up with those who have worked in the studio or on tours with Michael, and if any new information comes to light, we will keep you and the fans advised.

INDEED. BUT WE ARE STILL WAITING TO BE INFORMED, WHICH WE ARE NOT! GIVING US HALF BAKED ANALYSIS IS NOT ENOUGH. WE NEED A COMPLETE ANALASYS WITH ALL SOUNDALIKES AND WE NEED TO SEE THE WAVEFORM COMPARISONS PRINTED OR PUT ON INTERNET. WE ALSO NEED TO HEAR THE RAW VOCALS.

GIVE YOUR WORD AND RE-ANALYZE THE SONGS BETTER BY USING ALL POSSIBLE VOCAL COMPARISONS, NOT ONLY MICHAEL'S! SHOW US THE RESULST!
 
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For those who are lazy to read my long post, here is an extremely short version, I think you'll get the picture after seeing the video I posted.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GEORGE MICHAEL IMITATOR (LIVE!!!), CAN YOU SAY THE DIFFERENCE? I BET THE WAVEFORM ANALYSIS WOULD SHOW THE SAME VOICE, IT'S A MUST SEE:

[youtube]ULkD7ckrhUc[/youtube]

Bear in mind that the imitator is singing live, which means that in the studio he could make miracles.
 
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I still don't understand why these songs are selected to be released on the first posthumous Michael Jackson album. Even if it is proved that the vocal is 100% genuine, I have no problem in saying these songs are mediocre at best.

Well I am glad they are in this album. They are great songs imo. In your opinion these songs are mediocre. Like there were mediocre songs in Invincible for me. To me 2000 Watts doesn't sound anything like Michael and in my opinion these Cascio songs sound more like him than Watts.


The same for me.

I must admit that "Keep your head up" in terms of vocals (not in terms of lyrics) and "All I need" sound like MJ. But it is also easier to imitate MJ on slower songs. Jason Malachi could easily take this challenge up and make himself pass for MJ on slower songs.

"Stay" sounds like a bad lookalike.

"Monster" and "BN" sound exactly the same as Jason Malachi on faster songs.



what's important is that we all agree that none of them sound like him.



Hey you know if you don't agree they don't sound like him, fine with me. I don't think 2000 Watts sounded like him either and yet it was still him. And not ALL of us agree that these songs don't sound like him. IMHO they all sound very much like him.

If you think it is Malachi then there is certainly a way to prove that one way or another, don't you think? His schedule, a paper trail, something to prove he was in the studio either with Teddy Riley or at the Cascios. I would love to see this. But so far no one has come up with this prove. All you have here are assumptions.

I would love for this controversy to go away. There are 12 total songs he recorded with the Cascios and I would want all of them to see the light of day.

The estate and Sony have conducted two (2) separate forensic investigations proving it is 100% MJ. MJ collaborators have stated it is MJ. What do you have? assumptions. Do you want to turn your assumptions into truth, then, once and for all why don't you stop complaining and try to put up or shut up. Collect enough money to hire a lawyer and sue the hell out of Sony for consumer fraud. All of you seem adamant that these songs are fraudulent so get this thing resolved. All you are doing is talking why not take action. Do someting about it. I will support you, not monetarily but with a swift push in the behind to get this thing going. I know it is MJ. But for your sakes and the sake of Michael's future legacy I wish you would sue them so the truth would come out. Then and only then all this will end, hopefully. :yes:
 
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Well I am glad they are in this album. They are great songs imo. In your opinion these songs are mediocre. Like there were mediocre songs in Invincible for me. To me 2000 Watts doesn't sound anything like Michael and in my opinion these Cascio songs sound more like him than Watts.






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Hey you know if you don't agree they don't sound like him, fine with me. I don't think 2000 Watts sounded like him either and yet it was still him. And not ALL of us agree that these songs don't sound like him. IMHO they all sound very much like him.

If you think it is Malachi then there is certainly a way to prove that one way or another, don't you think? His schedule, a paper trail, something to prove he was in the studio either with Teddy Riley or at the Cascios. I would love to see this. But so far no one has come up with this prove. All you have here are assumptions.

I would love for this controversy to go away. There are 12 total songs he recorded with the Cascios and I would want all of them to see the light of day.

The estate and Sony have conducted two (2) separate forensic investigations proving it is 100% MJ. MJ collaborators have stated it is MJ. What do you have? assumptions. Do you want to turn your assumptions into truth, then, once and for all why don't you stop complaining and try to put up or shut up. Collect enough money to hire a lawyer and sue the hell out of Sony for consumer fraud. All of you seem adamant that these songs are fraudulent so get this thing resolved. All you are doing is talking why not take action. Do someting about it. I will support you, not monetarily but with a swift push in the behind to get this thing going. I know it is MJ. But for your sakes and the sake of Michael's future legacy I wish you would sue them so the truth would come out. Then and only then all this will end, hopefully. :yes:


All SONY has are BELIEFS from the audiologists. None of those latter compared vocals with another soundalike.

Read my long post, it is an article that is trying to discredit the non believers. But eventually when you read the article you realize that there is only a "belief" it is Michael. Those who actually questoned the tracks are even not named in the article and their argument wasn't even brought to light. How biased article is that!

Read between the lines though and you'll see the problems they still haven't resolved. The article says itself. First concerns are still raised, despite the wavform analysis. Second none soundalike study was done whatsoever to deny that someone else might have sung the songs. Third, fans are asked nothing at all whatsoever despite the fact that the article claims that fans are taken seriously. Tell me when were we taken seriously in all this mess? The author of the article lied when talking about fans! We heard no raw vocals, nothing!
 
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I don't believe that they really care about the opinions of the fans. There was an uproar as soon as Breaking News came out and they still decided to keep the Cascio songs on the album.

If the vocals aren't Michael and Sony knows it I bet they think that since they're such a big company they're untouchable and no one can or will do anything about it.
 
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Bumper, that long post of yours is absoultely brilliant! Brilliant! :clapping:

If one really read into the official statement, it's not difficult to see how filmsy it really is.

Btw, that George Michael immitator is unbelievable. I'm duped!
 
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I don't believe that they really care about the opinions of the fans. There was an uproar as soon as Breaking News came out and they still decided to keep the Cascio songs on the album.

If the vocals aren't Michael and Sony knows it I bet they think that since they're such a big company they're untouchable and no one can or will do anything about it.

They don't care about the fans....Therefore, to me, they don't care about his legacy. It's the FANS that need to protect his legacy.

Michael's songs - listen to his messages....The lyrics of Money...The lyrics of Scream....they lyrics of Tabloid Junkie.....If people don't want to believe Sony/Estate/Cascios would do something like this....You need only look to Michael for your answer...He's the one we look up to...he had something IMPORTANT to say.....He's been the victim of betrayal too many times to not have something to say about it......Just LISTEN to him.....He's not here to defend the shit that is going down right now....WE ARE THOUGH.....
 
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Based on everything that has happened, do you think they will use the remaining Cascio songs on any future projects? My guess is no.
 
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Bumper, that long post of yours is absoultely brilliant! Brilliant! :clapping:

If one really read into the official statement, it's not difficult to see how filmsy it really is.

Btw, that George Michael immitator is unbelievable. I'm duped!


Thanks :)

The imitator is even not an English speaker!
 
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Based on everything that has happened, do you think they will use the remaining Cascio songs on any future projects? My guess is no.
I think they wil donalbl... because they will melk money out even if it's only a bit or not that much anymore... and everything Michael will always sell... even if it's only a few levels down the scale in quality and all... that will not matter.

Even someone only half as successfull (however by what you want to measure success) as Michael usually was, would be still for actual circumstances in the music business incredible successfull.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

They bought the tracks, they will use them.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

They bought the tracks, they will use them.


After reading the article, I am strongly convinced that SONY doesn't have a clue. They clearly got duped and are not to be blamed since they did everything they could to prove it is Michael on those tracks. After doubting the tracks, they based their decision to release them on the results of the audiologists rather than on their doubting ears.

The audiologists however expressed their "belief" based purely on visual waveformat . They, however, don't seem to be aware that Jason's vocals are even closer to the Cascio tracks than Michael's vocals. They didn't provide a single study about Jason's vocals. The only initiative that was taken in that sense was to contact Jason and ask him if he sang those songs. How scientific!

To me, it seems clear that only the Cascio and the soundalike know the truth behind this and no one else.
 
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They bought the tracks, they will use them.

Thanks! I really hope this is not the case. The streaming of BN completely derailed this project and has cost them dearly in terms of the lower than expected album sales. As it stands, these songs are essentially "dead weight" on the album and can not be fully utilized for promotional purposes. Using any of the remaining tracks will only bring more headaches. I really hope they just write them off.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

For those who are lazy to read my long post, here is an extremely short version, I think you'll get the picture after seeing the video I posted.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GEORGE MICHAEL IMITATOR (LIVE!!!), CAN YOU SAY THE DIFFERENCE? I BET THE WAVEFORM ANALYSIS WOULD SHOW THE SAME VOICE, IT'S A MUST SEE:

[youtube]ULkD7ckrhUc[/youtube]

Bear in mind that the imitator is singing live, which means that in the studio he could make miracles.

Great example. But fans would know the difference even without the video. Great example.

Either way, the Cascio songs are NOWHERE NEAR as close as this. They sound absolutely nothing like Michael Jackson. It's not even close.
 
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the point is, Michael is on these songs, but not alone. So what they say is particle true.

Like Pentum says, they bought the tracks, they will use them.
And what Bumper wrote in his long post is true.
And I hear the difference in that George Michael example. But this is live. Done in studio, would be same like with MJs songs. Hard for some people to tell the difference.

I must say i'm long over with this. I enjoy the songs. I'ts not Michael alone. And just because you doubt it from the first listening on, it's prove that they are partly fake.

Ps: "2000 watts", the pitch is lower. Nothing more is done.
"Shout" it isn't altered at all. the music is overdubing Michael voice to much. So those aren't any real exaples of how different they can make him sound in studio. Michael voice has changet. You you can hear it in Invincible album, can hear it in This is it movie. It still doesn't make you doubt.
 
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Great example. But fans would know the difference even without the video. Great example.

Either way, the Cascio songs are NOWHERE NEAR as close as this. They sound absolutely nothing like Michael Jackson. It's not even close.

That's my thought, too...This George Michael example is VERY close.....But, yeah, the Cascios stuff...The voice is SO different from Michael's...which is why there's no 'doubt' in my mind...
 
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We have 10 songs

3 are fakes (Cascio tracks)

7 are without any doubt it's Michael voice

Michael's favorite number is 7

This doesn't prove anything l know but in my point of view l believe Michael has somehow kind of magic and super natural power to make sens in my theory.

With the love
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

For those who are lazy to read my long post, here is an extremely short version, I think you'll get the picture after seeing the video I posted.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GEORGE MICHAEL IMITATOR (LIVE!!!), CAN YOU SAY THE DIFFERENCE? I BET THE WAVEFORM ANALYSIS WOULD SHOW THE SAME VOICE, IT'S A MUST SEE:

[youtube]ULkD7ckrhUc[/youtube]

Bear in mind that the imitator is singing live, which means that in the studio he could make miracles.

Bumper, that long post of yours is absoultely brilliant! Brilliant! :clapping:

If one really read into the official statement, it's not difficult to see how filmsy it really is.

Btw, that George Michael immitator is unbelievable. I'm duped!

Great example. But fans would know the difference even without the video. Great example.

Either way, the Cascio songs are NOWHERE NEAR as close as this. They sound absolutely nothing like Michael Jackson. It's not even close.

That's my thought, too...This George Michael example is VERY close.....But, yeah, the Cascios stuff...The voice is SO different from Michael's...which is why there's no 'doubt' in my mind...


What is actually frightening is that this imitator succeeds to have the same voice timbre as George Michael --something that we even don't have in the Cascio tracks (except a bit on slower songs). I suppose that if George Michael's imitator sang a faster song such as MONKEY, FAITH or HARD DAY the imitator would fail to copy George's typical husk, just the way Malachi fails to copy Michael's husk in faster songs.
 
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What is actually frightening is that this imitator succeeds to have the same voice timbre as George Michael --something that we even don't have in the Cascio tracks (except a bit on slower songs). I suppose that if George Michael's imitator sang a faster song such as MONKEY, FAITH or HARD DAY the imitator would fail to copy George's typical husk, just the way Malachi fails to copy Michael's husk in faster songs.

I agree.....Bumper, where do you hear a similar timbre in the slower songs?
 
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Sony confirms Michael Jackson release dates; Attorney issues statement relating to 'fake' vocal rumours

<!-- Item Author -->By Mark Devlin | 12 November 2010


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<!-- Item fulltext -->The first official single from the upcoming Michael Jackson album, 'Michael', is to be 'Hold My Hand', his record label Sony Music has confirmed. The track is a duet with Akon, and is to get its UK release on Sunday 28th November, with the album to follow on 13th December. Meanwhile, Sony has further addressed the rumours that the lead vocals on Jackson's 'Breaking News' track are not the artist himself, by releasing a statement from the Attorney for the deceased star's estate.
'Hold My Hand' was recorded in 2007. Sony has said that a handwritten note from Michael belonging to his estate indicated his desire that the song be the first single on his next project. However, in its unfinished state, the song leaked out in 2008. Akon recently completed the new and final production of “Hold My Hand.”
Akon has commented: “The world was not ready to hear ‘Hold My Hand’ when it leaked a couple years ago. We were devastated about it. But its time has definitely come; now in its final state, it has become an incredible, beautiful, anthemic song. I’m so proud to have had the chance to work with Michael, one of my all time idols.”
Sony has now confirmed the full track listing for 'Michael' to be as follows:
1. Hold My Hand (Duet with Akon)
2. Hollywood Tonight
3. Keep Your Head Up
4. (I Like) The Way You Love Me
5. Monster (Featuring 50 Cent)
6. Best Of Joy
7. Breaking News
8. (I Can’t Make It) Another Day (Featuring Lenny Kravitz)
9. Behind The Mask
10. Much Too Soon
The official statement from Howard Weitzman, Attorney for the Estate Of Michael Jackson, reads as follows:
There is nothing more important to the Estate than Michael’s music, his legacy and his fans.
As the Michael album was being put together, it was decided to bring Teddy Riley on board to work on several songs, including “Breaking News,” a song Michael recorded with Eddie Cascio and James Porte in late 2007 while living at the Cascio family home with his children. Riley produced and submitted “Breaking News” to Sony for inclusion on the album. At that time, no one ever mentioned that the vocals we heard on the Cascio songs, which were basically in demo format, might not be Michael. It was known, however, that the background vocals were a combination of Michael and James Porte. [...]


WHERE ARE THOSE DEMO FORMAT VOCALS????



[...]After the tracks were submitted to Sony, three of these Cascio songs were selected to be on the album, and “Breaking News” was one of the three. The day after the submission and selection of the album tracks, for the very first time, the authenticity of Michael’s vocals on the Cascio tracks was questioned. [...]

WHY WERE THEY QUESTIONED, BY WHOM AND WHY ONLY THE CASCIO TRACKS WERE QUESTIONED -- I fail to see the explanation in this article?


[...]Because of these questions, I was immediately asked by co-Executors John Branca and John McClain to conduct an investigation regarding the authenticity of the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks.
Six of Michael’s former producers and engineers who had worked with Michael over the past 30 years – Bruce Swedien, Matt Forger, Stewart Brawley, Michael Prince, Dr. Freeze and Teddy Riley – were all invited to a listening session to hear the raw vocals of the Cascio tracks in question.[...]


AGAIN, WHERE ARE THOSE RAW VOCALS? WHY DON'T WE FANS -WHO ARE TAKEN SERIOUSLY BY YOU AS YOU SAID- GET THE CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THOSE RAW VOCALS???

[...]All of these persons listened to the a cappella versions of the vocals on the Cascio tracks being considered for inclusion on the album, so they could give an opinion as to whether or not the lead vocals were sung by Michael. They all confirmed that the vocal was definitely Michael. [...]

GIVE US FANS THE CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE A CAPPELLA VERSIONS OF THE VOCALS! IF A WHOLE SONG WHICH IS NOT ON THE ALBUM CAN LEAK, A REAL A CAPPELLA COULD LEAK TOO. LEAK THEM OR STREAM THEM, WE FANS WILL LISTEN TO THEM AND GIVE OUR OPINION TOO. REMEMBER, YOU TAKE OUR OPINION SERIOUSLY, SO WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR TO LET US GIVE OUR OPINION ON THOSE A CAPPELLAS?



[...]Michael’s musical director and piano player on many of his records over a 20-year period, Greg Phillinganes, played on a Cascio track being produced for the album, and said the voice was definitely Michael’s. Dorian Holley, who was Michael’s vocal director for his solo tours for 20 plus years (including the O2 Concert Tour) and is seen in the This Is It film, listened to the Cascio tracks and told me the lead vocal was Michael Jackson.
These are all engineers, producers and musicians who worked on tours and/or in the studio with Michael when he was recording Bad, Thriller, Off The Wall, Dangerous, Invincible, HIStory and Blood On The Dance Floor, and they all reconfirmed their belief that the lead vocals were Michael’s voice on the Cascio tracks.[...]

THEIR BELIEF????!!!!!!!


[...]The Estate then retained one of the best-known forensic musicologists in the nation to listen to the vocals without any instrumental accompaniment (“a cappella”), and to compare them with a cappella vocals from previous Michael songs. This expert performed waveform analysis, an objective scientific test used to determine audio authenticity, on the Cascio tracks, as well as previously released tracks with Michael’s voice, and reported that ALL of the lead vocals analyzed (which included Cascio tracks) were the voice of Michael Jackson. [...]

FIRST, NON-CASCIO TRACKS WERE NOT QUESTIONNED! SO OF COURSE THEY ARE MICHAEL'S.

SECOND, THE SO CALLED WAVEFORM ANALYSIS IS NOT COMPLETE! INDEED, IF A SOUNDALIKE HAS AN EXTREMELY CLOSE VOCALS TO THE ORIGINAL ONE, THE WAVEFORM WILL MATCH AS IF THE SAME SINGER IS SINGING THEM.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A GEORGE MICHAEL IMITATOR (LIVE!!!), CAN YOU SAY THE DIFFERENCE? I BET THE WAVEFORM ANALYSIS WOULD SHOW THE SAME VOICE, IT'S A MUST SEE:

[youtube]ULkD7ckrhUc[/youtube]


IN ORDER TO MAKE THE ANALYSIS COMPLETE YOU NEED TO COMPARE OTHER VOCALS TOO! IN THIS CASE, THEY NOWHERE MENTION THAT THEY COMPARED THE CASCIO TRACKS TO JASON MALACHI'S VOCALS! I BET THE AUDIOLOGISTS WOULD HAVE HAD QUITE A SURPRISE HAD THEY DONE THAT!

[...]Sony Music conducted their own investigation by hiring yet a second well-respected forensic musicologist who also compared the a cappella lead vocals from Cascio tracks against previously released vocals of Michael’s, and found that it was Michael’s voice on all sets of the raw vocals. The Cascio tracks were also played for two very prominent persons in the music industry who played crucial roles in Michael’s career. Both of these individuals believed that the lead vocals were Michael’s.[...]

BELIEVED!!!????


[...]Just to be absolutely certain, I also contacted Jason Malachi, a young singer who some persons had wrongfully alleged was a “soundalike” singer that was hired to sing on the Cascio tracks, and I confirmed that he had no involvement with this project whatsoever. [...]

CONTACTED? AS IN, HI JASON, DID YOU SING THOSE SONGS? DID YOU THINK HE WOULD SAY YES I DID?

HOW ABOUT SUBMITTING HIS RAW VOCALS AND A CAPPELLAS TO THE AUDIOLOGISTS AND COMPARE THE WAVEFORMS? WHY NO ONE HAD THE IDEA TO DO THAT?

[...]Sony decided that, given the overwhelming objective evidence resulting from the exhaustive investigations outlined above, they wanted to release a record that included three of the Cascio-Porte tracks – because they believed, without reservation, that the lead vocal on all of those tracks were sung by Michael Jackson. [...]

BELIEVED??? ONLY AFTER WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD FOLLOWING THE INCOMPLETE OBJECTIVE ANALYSIS!

IN MY OPINION AFTER READING THIS ARTICLE SONY GOT DUPED! THEY ACTUALLY QUESTIONED THE TRACKS AND DECIDED TO ABIDE BY WHAT THE AUDIOLOGISTS SAID WITHOUT EVEN BOTHERING TO COMPARE THE RAW VOCALS WITH JASON MALACHI'S VOCALS!


[...]Although there still seem to be concerns being expressed in some quarters about the authenticity of the lead vocals,[...]

OF COURSE THERE ARE CONCERNS! EARS CAN HEAR BETTER THAN WAVEFORM ANALYSIS BASED ON VISUAL INTERPRETATION OF WAVES RENDERED BY SOFTWARES.

[...]notwithstanding the opinion of those who worked with Michael, and two independent forensic analysts, ultimately, Michael’s fans will be the judges of these songs, as they always are. We take all fan comments very seriously, and as I’d stated above, there is nothing more important to the Estate than Michael’s music, his legacy and his fans. [...]

THIS IS BLATANTLY UNTRUE! MICHAEL'S FANS QUESTION THOSE TRACKS AND WE ARE NOT GIVEN THE CHANCE TO LISTEN TO THE RAW VOCALS.

WHEN THE FANS DEMAND TO COMPARE THOSE VOCALS WITH JASON MALACHI'S, IT IS NOT DONE.

WHEN THE FANS ASK FOR SONGS SUCH AS SLAVE TO THE RHYTHM INSTEAD OF THE CASCIO TRACKS, NOBODY CARES.

SO HOW IS THAT TAKING FANS SERIOUSLY?


[...]Michael’s fans are extraordinary in their quest for accuracy and their passions to raise their voices in a search for truth! We join with them in our care and concern for Michael. We are continuing to follow up with those who have worked in the studio or on tours with Michael, and if any new information comes to light, we will keep you and the fans advised.

INDEED. BUT WE ARE STILL WAITING TO BE INFORMED, WHICH WE ARE NOT! GIVING US HALF BAKED ANALYSIS IS NOT ENOUGH. WE NEED A COMPLETE ANALASYS WITH ALL SOUNDALIKES AND WE NEED TO SEE THE WAVEFORM COMPARISONS PRINTED OR PUT ON INTERNET. WE ALSO NEED TO HEAR THE RAW VOCALS.

GIVE YOUR WORD AND RE-ANALYZE THE SONGS BETTER BY USING ALL POSSIBLE VOCAL COMPARISONS, NOT ONLY MICHAEL'S! SHOW US THE RESULST!

Great post Bumper..Going to quote it in hopes that more will read it :D
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Earlier I was talking about linguistical frequencies. Here we clearly have the frequence of an alien's voice trying to copy the original.

What imitators do they always chose a range of frequency that they can perfectly well imitate. So well that they could dupe anyone who doesn't pay close attention to the frequency. Any audiologist who would take the imitators voice and the original's objectively couldn't nor wouldn't see the difference expressed by the waveformat (since the frequencies would perfectly match):

Here, I can prove you that the same imitator knowing his own frequency range vocals limit will faithfully copy different originals using those frequencies that he masters:

GEORGE MICHAEL (voice timbre successfully imitated)

[youtube]ULkD7ckrhUc[/youtube]

U2

[youtube]4324vssvTtw[/youtube] (voice timbre successfully imitated)



However good he is in imitating the voice timbre, he fails to imitate exactly the husk. Here is an example where the imitation is quite good, but not convincing when it come to the husk, just like what we have on the Cascio tracks. However, i am sure some could be duped anyway.

The reason why there are imperfections in imitating a complete song to perfection is just because of some frequencies difficult to render in terms of husk or timbre. And that would be the moment where your eyebrows frown as an expression of "something's wrong here".

So, in conclusion, I would say that the Cascio tracks where some hear Michael is actually the imitator who renders perfectly well those frequencies (PERFECT WAVEFORMAT MATCH) impossible to distinguish from the original, but who fails to deliver some other frequencies (THIS LITTLE SOMETHING MAKING YOU QUESTION THE AUTHENTICTY) in the same song as well as the original:

JAMES BROWN (husk unsuccessfully imitated, yet could dupe)

[youtube]w8dG_hQtA0w[/youtube]

COLDPLAY (voice timbre unsuccessfully imitated, yet could dupe)

[youtube]blXDUubQx_o[/youtube]



As far as the Cascio tracks are concerned, the voice timbre is half-successfully imitated on "All I need" and "KYHU". However, both the voice timbre and the husk on "BN" and "Monster" are unsuccessfully imitated due to the out of frequency range of the imitator's vocal capacity.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

I agree.....Bumper, where do you hear a similar timbre in the slower songs?


"All I need" is successfully imitated in terms of the timbre. It ressembles "Scared out of the moon", "Someone in the dark", "Lady in my life" and "Someone put your hand out".
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Earlier I was talking about linguistical frequencies. Here we clearly have the frequence of an alien's voice trying to copy the original.

What imitators do they always chose a range of frequency that they can perfectly well imitate. So well that they could dupe anyone who doesn't pay close attention to the frequency. Any audiologist who would take the imitators voice and the original's objectively couldn't nor wouldn't see the difference expressed by the waveformat (since the frequencies would perfectly match):

Here, I can prove you that the same imitator knowing his own frequency range vocals limit will faithfully copy different originals using those frequencies that he masters:

GEORGE MICHAEL (voice timbre successfully imitated)

[youtube]ULkD7ckrhUc[/youtube]

U2

[youtube]4324vssvTtw[/youtube] (voice timbre successfully imitated)



However good he is in imitating the voice timbre, he fails to imitate exactly the husk. Here is an example where the imitation is quite good, but not convincing when it come to the husk, just like what we have on the Cascio tracks. However, i am sure some could be duped anyway.

The reason why there are imperfections in imitating a complete song to perfection is just because of some frequencies difficult to render in terms of husk or timbre. And that would be the moment where your eyebrows frown as an expression of "something's wrong here".

So, in conclusion, I would say that the Cascio tracks where some hear Michael is actually the imitator who renders perfectly well those frequencies (PERFECT WAVEFORMAT MATCH) impossible to distinguish from the original, but who fails to deliver some other frequencies (THIS LITTLE SOMETHING MAKING YOU QUESTION THE AUTHENTICTY) in the same song as well as the original:

JAMES BROWN (husk unsuccessfully imitated, yet could dupe)

[youtube]w8dG_hQtA0w[/youtube]

COLDPLAY (voice timbre unsuccessfully imitated, yet could dupe)

[youtube]blXDUubQx_o[/youtube]



As far as the Cascio tracks are concerned, the voice timbre is half-successfully imitated on "All I need" and "KYHU". However, both the voice timbre and the husk on "BN" and "Monster" are unsuccessfully imitated due to the out of frequency range of the imitator's vocal capacity.

I can definitely hear a difference in the Bono comparison...DEFINITELY...The imitator doesn't have that roughness that Bono has...Same with the James Brown one, and the Chris Martin one...It's that little 'something' that's missing...But this guy's voice is SO close to the real thing......The George Michael one is the closest, to me...The other ones are pretty easy to tell...Even closing my eyes....I could spot the difference....Maybe not as much if I was just listening to this guy not knowing he was an imitator...But, it's obviously because I don't know these voices like I know Michael's voice...In saying that, though, the imitator in the Cascio songs is very different from Mike's voice...VERY different....It's not difficult to pick up the obvious differences...For me, anyways...

Good finds, Bumper!
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

I can definitely hear a difference in the Bono comparison...DEFINITELY...The imitator doesn't have that roughness that Bono has...Same with the James Brown one, and the Chris Martin one...It's that little 'something' that's missing...But this guy's voice is SO close to the real thing......The George Michael one is the closest, to me...The other ones are pretty easy to tell...Even closing my eyes....I could spot the difference....Maybe not as much if I was just listening to this guy not knowing he was an imitator...But, it's obviously because I don't know these voices like I know Michael's voice...In saying that, though, the imitator in the Cascio songs is very different from Mike's voice...VERY different....It's not difficult to pick up the obvious differences...For me, anyways...

Good finds, Bumper!

Of course you can tell the difference, they are two different people. But imagine in a studio with advanced technology and released as a posthumous Bono's album. It would give the same effect as the Cascio tracks. I am pretty sure many would believe it is Bono singing. Your ears can hear the difference in this little something, but I doubt that the waveformat software would make a difference. And even if it would, it would be within Bono's vocal frequencey which would have led them to the conclusion that it is Bono singing.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

3.50 onwards on Monster... if that's Michael Jackson on that record I will eat my fedora! And, again, please post a track on which Michael Jackson - THE MICHAEL JACKSON - has ever EVER sounded like that. "Say you wanna be a star"... that shit....

Love those lyrics in particular "Why did you fake it?"

I hope all those involved get what's coming to them. Scum. Absolute scum.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Of course you can tell the difference, they are two different people. But imagine in a studio with advanced technology and released as a posthumous Bono's album. It would give the same effect as the Cascio tracks. I am pretty sure many would believe it is Bono singing. Your ears can hear the difference in this little something, but I doubt that the waveformat software would make a difference. And even if it would, it would be within Bono's vocal frequencey which would have led them to the conclusion that it is Bono singing.

Yeah, I can see what you're saying...
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

3.50 onwards on Monster... if that's Michael Jackson on that record I will eat my fedora! And, again, please post a track on which Michael Jackson - THE MICHAEL JACKSON - has ever EVER sounded like that. "Say you wanna be a star"... that shit....

Love those lyrics in particular "Why did you fake it?"

I hope all those involved get what's coming to them. Scum. Absolute scum.

I'm listening now...*shudders*...The 'Hollywoooooood' part, too.....Nothing like he's ever sounded....
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

I'm listening now...*shudders*...The 'Hollywoooooood' part, too.....Nothing like he's ever sounded....

The lyrics 'Why did you fake it?' and 'You're gunning for the money so you fake it' and Breaking News' 'Fake Fake Breaking News' don't raise any eyebrows among the believers???
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! This is Breaking News with just the isolated lead vocal... people are claiming this is Michael Jackson? Forensic Audiologists??? This is a killer! Without all the bullshit processing and backing vocals to disguise what was so obvious to so many of us!

[youtube]6XkLyFpz4QE&[/youtube]
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Ouch! Ouch! Ouch! This is Breaking News with just the isolated lead vocal... people are claiming this is Michael Jackson? Forensic Audiologists??? This is a killer! Without all the bullshit processing and backing vocals to disguise what was so obvious to so many of us!

[youtube]6XkLyFpz4QE&[/youtube]

Sadly, and unbelievably, it's the acapella of BN that convinced a lot that it IS him.....
 
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