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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
I also like them.They're catchy
I also like them.They're catchy
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
Yeah, I'd rather get a boner than a giggle... What? I'm just sayin'.
:lol:
Yeah, I'd rather get a boner than a giggle... What? I'm just sayin'.
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Well, if you want to be convinced he isn't singing, please watch and listen to these five videos closely with good speakers or headphones.
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ntinue-The-Controversy)?p=3366419#post3366419
I'm interested in your thoughts after you have finished viewing them.
Well, if you want to be convinced he isn't singing, please watch and listen to these five videos closely with good speakers or headphones.
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/t...ntinue-The-Controversy)?p=3366419#post3366419
I'm interested in your thoughts after you have finished viewing them.
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I like how KingMikeJ said he's leaving this thread since he's apparently a victim and he doesn't want to be here anymore... but at the same time he still comes here and reads every single post. :lol:
I like how KingMikeJ said he's leaving this thread since he's apparently a victim and he doesn't want to be here anymore... but at the same time he still comes here and reads every single post. :lol:
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Well, you could also have both. Like Mike.AndreyZidane™;3368071 said:Yeah, I'd rather get a boner than a giggle... What? I'm just sayin'.
Fighting over? I thought someone wanted to show her boobs? I can't believe you guys forgot that.
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@Dorian: Uh... what?
@Justice_MJ: Don't worry, Arklove will eventually be back...
@Dorian: Uh... what?
@Justice_MJ: Don't worry, Arklove will eventually be back...
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This can be the song of the group who debates here serious problems!
Well, the fighting has stopped now, so my boobs are not needed anymore
This can be the song of the group who debates here serious problems!
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@Arklove: Meh, at least I tried.
@Arklove: Meh, at least I tried.
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^What a pity.
What are we gonna do now? I posted the comparisons on my blog and Facebook and asked the people to spread them around.
What about a twitter marathon on a spefic date? Tweeting to Sony and Cascio and asking for proof, tell them we're still waiting? Make them some pressure. Imagine they get thousand of these tweets... I know that we will get no proof because there is simply none but maybe we make them once again see that we will never accept what they did.
I can't think of something else now... Hmmm...
^What a pity.
What are we gonna do now? I posted the comparisons on my blog and Facebook and asked the people to spread them around.
What about a twitter marathon on a spefic date? Tweeting to Sony and Cascio and asking for proof, tell them we're still waiting? Make them some pressure. Imagine they get thousand of these tweets... I know that we will get no proof because there is simply none but maybe we make them once again see that we will never accept what they did.
I can't think of something else now... Hmmm...
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Someone should call Sony Music. Talk to them about something, then suddenly change the subject to the Cascio tracks an demand them listening to the comparisons. Something like that
Someone should call Sony Music. Talk to them about something, then suddenly change the subject to the Cascio tracks an demand them listening to the comparisons. Something like that
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Guys,I was wondering.What would we do if the songs are indeed real?
The album is already fucked up,the fan base is splitted.The rumor already got to the non-fans.
It would be weird...
Guys,I was wondering.What would we do if the songs are indeed real?
The album is already fucked up,the fan base is splitted.The rumor already got to the non-fans.
It would be weird...
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Not gonna happen. If actual proof indeed existed, he'd be crazy NOT to put it out and try to proove to us that the tracks are real. Have you ever wondered why he hasn't given us any actual proof? ...Yes, because he doesn't have any!
Look at Neff-U for example, nobody questioned his tracks (obviously, duh!) or the fact that he worked with MJ yet he still played us that short audio of Michael talking, various hand written notes, a voicemail segment. I mean, he showed us more hand written notes and bridges for HT than Teddy did... if he ever did, that is.
Nobody was asking him to show us all of these, yet he still did.
Eddie Cascio on the other hand only gave us bullshit stories such as this one:
Not gonna happen. If actual proof indeed existed, he'd be crazy NOT to put it out and try to proove to us that the tracks are real. Have you ever wondered why he hasn't given us any actual proof? ...Yes, because he doesn't have any!
Look at Neff-U for example, nobody questioned his tracks (obviously, duh!) or the fact that he worked with MJ yet he still played us that short audio of Michael talking, various hand written notes, a voicemail segment. I mean, he showed us more hand written notes and bridges for HT than Teddy did... if he ever did, that is.
Nobody was asking him to show us all of these, yet he still did.
Eddie Cascio on the other hand only gave us bullshit stories such as this one:
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Never ever have I been so sureeeee, oh no now!
Never ever have I been so sureeeee, oh no now!
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
Huh...?
Huh...?
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^^
We kinda discussed that before. Some people say that there's some proof but not necessarily "definitive" proof (Teddy Riley listed some on twitter).
For example "handwritten notes / lyrics".
and I asked before would it make a difference in opinion? although some people keeps an open mind , some say that it would only show that Michael was involved with the songs but didn't sing them. Some even went to claim that the handwriting could be forged as well.
For example similarly in the last weeks we had mentions of the expert reports and how they are not released. But assume for a minute that they are released and you get a tens of pages of expert report saying that it's Michael, are you going to change your opinion ? or will think that the expert is bought or the report is lies ? etc
I think what I'm trying to say is if they know that even if they show some proof , it will be rejected then why try? Why get the fire stronger with new info? Don't you think trying to make this forgotten is a better strategy if they know that whatever they do they wouldn't be able to change people's stand?
^^
We kinda discussed that before. Some people say that there's some proof but not necessarily "definitive" proof (Teddy Riley listed some on twitter).
For example "handwritten notes / lyrics".
and I asked before would it make a difference in opinion? although some people keeps an open mind , some say that it would only show that Michael was involved with the songs but didn't sing them. Some even went to claim that the handwriting could be forged as well.
For example similarly in the last weeks we had mentions of the expert reports and how they are not released. But assume for a minute that they are released and you get a tens of pages of expert report saying that it's Michael, are you going to change your opinion ? or will think that the expert is bought or the report is lies ? etc
I think what I'm trying to say is if they know that even if they show some proof , it will be rejected then why try? Why get the fire stronger with new info? Don't you think trying to make this forgotten is a better strategy if they know that whatever they do they wouldn't be able to change people's stand?
Worldwide;3368232 said:
Jason will be standin in the rain in case you change your mind. :cheeky:
AndreyZidane™;3368225 said:Eddie Cascio on the other hand only gave us bullshit stories such as this one:
I'm sorry but you're wrong about this. Michael was SITTING in the shower, not standing! Now do you believe it's Michael?
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Oh yes, I see! Now it all makes sense! How blind (deaf?) was I.
I'm sorry but you're wrong about this. Michael was SITTING in the shower, not standing! Now do you believe it's Michael?
Oh yes, I see! Now it all makes sense! How blind (deaf?) was I.
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OT: This is for all the women in the thread!
On-topic: I agree with Ivy. Any "proof" that anyone comes forward with will instantly get discredited or dismissed. Like the PVC pipe, that wasn't put forward as proof, and is not ridiculous considering that MJ recorded some vocals in a pipe for Billie Jean.
OT: This is for all the women in the thread!
On-topic: I agree with Ivy. Any "proof" that anyone comes forward with will instantly get discredited or dismissed. Like the PVC pipe, that wasn't put forward as proof, and is not ridiculous considering that MJ recorded some vocals in a pipe for Billie Jean.
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The thing is....the use of a PVC pipe, or a shower, or any of those excuses aren't ridiculous - if I didn't make him sound like a completely different person!...He may have used a pipe in Billie Jean, but is there a single moment in that song where we're like, 'ummm....wtf?'....No, there isn't...
None of those things are actually ridiculous. But to use them to explain why 'he' sounds so different...well, then that is ridiculous...
The thing is....the use of a PVC pipe, or a shower, or any of those excuses aren't ridiculous - if I didn't make him sound like a completely different person!...He may have used a pipe in Billie Jean, but is there a single moment in that song where we're like, 'ummm....wtf?'....No, there isn't...
None of those things are actually ridiculous. But to use them to explain why 'he' sounds so different...well, then that is ridiculous...
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Fair enough, you're right about that. I just wish that all the producers on that album would go in-depth about the processes gone into the album, what they changed etc.
Though, the only "official" explanation as to why the vocals are different is Melodyne. The whole thing with the shower and pipe were merely explaining the processes of recording, not why they sound different.
Fair enough, you're right about that. I just wish that all the producers on that album would go in-depth about the processes gone into the album, what they changed etc.
Though, the only "official" explanation as to why the vocals are different is Melodyne. The whole thing with the shower and pipe were merely explaining the processes of recording, not why they sound different.
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forget explanations. what about other "proof"? suppose that the "voices heard" movement becomes successful and sony agrees transparency and releases the expert reports. Would it make a difference?
forget explanations. what about other "proof"? suppose that the "voices heard" movement becomes successful and sony agrees transparency and releases the expert reports. Would it make a difference?
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If the report detailed everything that went into those songs, talked about the kind of material they received as well as in-depth analysis of the vocals, all doubt will be erased from my mind. Though it would have to be pretty damn good to show how the vocals became what they are.
If the report detailed everything that went into those songs, talked about the kind of material they received as well as in-depth analysis of the vocals, all doubt will be erased from my mind. Though it would have to be pretty damn good to show how the vocals became what they are.
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As much as I'd have to believe it's Michael if the reports are in front of me, I still wouldn't believe it deep down...the voice is TOO identical to Jason's for me to feel comfortable with it....It's just too identical to actually be Michael Jackson's voice...it's like, impossible to me....I still would never listen to the songs, and to me, they still wouldn't be Michael...
I assume you wanted an honest answer! lol
As much as I'd have to believe it's Michael if the reports are in front of me, I still wouldn't believe it deep down...the voice is TOO identical to Jason's for me to feel comfortable with it....It's just too identical to actually be Michael Jackson's voice...it's like, impossible to me....I still would never listen to the songs, and to me, they still wouldn't be Michael...
I assume you wanted an honest answer! lol
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This is what I've been asking for months. This is the only solution now, to clear this up once and for all. Hell, a live ustream interview would be best, with us supplying the questions!
This is what I've been asking for months. This is the only solution now, to clear this up once and for all. Hell, a live ustream interview would be best, with us supplying the questions!
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Totally!How hard can be?We can even donate for an acceptable sum or something like that.I just wish there would be one...
Totally!How hard can be?We can even donate for an acceptable sum or something like that.I just wish there would be one...
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We as a community and a family NEED this. To finally get this over and done with, to get the answers we needed months ago.
MODS: PLEASE MAKE THIS USTREAM INTERVIEW WITH THE ESTATE AND/OR EDDIE CASCIO HAPPEN! WE NEED THIS!
We as a community and a family NEED this. To finally get this over and done with, to get the answers we needed months ago.
MODS: PLEASE MAKE THIS USTREAM INTERVIEW WITH THE ESTATE AND/OR EDDIE CASCIO HAPPEN! WE NEED THIS!
AndreyZidane™
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I'm actually willing to forget them. I understand that then needed the money, they're douchebags, they screwed Michael over, I totally get it. I'm willing to forget them if the word "Cascio" will never EVER be associated with Michael Jackson's work.
That, and the release of a Christmass promo CD with three genuine songs to make up fo the 3 fake ones.
Fat change, I know. But just go with it...
I'm actually willing to forget them. I understand that then needed the money, they're douchebags, they screwed Michael over, I totally get it. I'm willing to forget them if the word "Cascio" will never EVER be associated with Michael Jackson's work.
That, and the release of a Christmass promo CD with three genuine songs to make up fo the 3 fake ones.
Fat change, I know. But just go with it...