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Michael - The Great Album Debate

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Oh, believe me, I understand. It just kills me to see people say they do what they do for Michael, surely Michael taught us to treat one another better than that. That doesn't excuse KingMikeJ's actions, but sheesh.
 
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^ok i hear what you're saying. but it goes both ways. words were exchanged on both sides of the fence, ya know?

i personally would never take it to that level, i know what you mean.

@ginvid i think i get your point, but are you saying it's a GOOD thing we're in the conspiracy section, or a bad thing?
 
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Ithink that Ginvid meant it is better to stay discrete or else this website risks consequences. On the other side what KingMikeJ did, was compromising by drawing attention to this thread.
 
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This thread was made for those who don't believe in those 3 tracks, yet there are those who want to argue with them when they already made up there minds! If some would stop trying to control how others should think then this mess would have never happened! If u have the album and believe it's 100% MJ why can't u be happy with that and let this thread be?!
 
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Oh Sony, why you haunting me, why you stalkin' me?

If someone told me a year ago that I would be doing this, I wouldn't have believed it myself. It sounds so insane, yet it is happening! :scratch:

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Once that is taken from the community with a red target sign and pointers say, "Look at what they are doing here!", if I were a member of a group of people interested in damage control, I might wonder a bit more and look into other actions besides just taking something down. As more people start to notice, they will react moreso just to save face and make an example. It hampers the movements of the whole community.
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The problem is that we want closure for this and we're not getting it. The Estate is aware that the situation is still ongoing and does nothing, I'm guessing because they believe it's under control. So I want this to blow up all over the internet (working on it) so that we get answers, with the risk of getting Sony or whatever on my back... I just cannot let what seems to be a massive lie go unnoticed. :no:

My best friend is a big Michael fan too, but he doesn't visit forums. He is aware the tracks are fake because of me, and was grateful I told him (he was convinced too by my videos). At first when I told him what I was doing with these comparisons, he was like "What the hell are you doing man?" but as I explained it further he was actually really proud of what I'm doing. I have to see this through.
 
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TPIMaster said:
Oh Sony, why you haunting me, why you stalkin' me?

If someone told me a year ago that I would be doing this, I wouldn't have believed it myself. It sounds so insane, yet it is happening! :scratch:



The problem is that we want closure for this and we're not getting it. The Estate is aware that the situation is still ongoing and does nothing, I'm guessing because they believe it's under control. So I want this to blow up all over the internet (working on it) so that we get answers, with the risk of getting Sony or whatever on my back... I just cannot let what seems to be a massive lie go unnoticed. :no:

My best friend is a big Michael fan too, but he doesn't visit forums. He is aware the tracks are fake because of me, and was grateful I told him (he was convinced too by my videos). At first when I told him what I was doing with these comparisons, he was like "What the hell are you doing man?" but as I explained it further he was actually really proud of what I'm doing. I have to see this through.
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Michael would be SO damn proud of you, you know that right? What you're doing is amazing, it really is....
 
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azsummergirl said:
^ok i hear what you're saying. but it goes both ways. words were exchanged on both sides of the fence, ya know?

i personally would never take it to that level, i know what you mean.

@ginvid i think i get your point, but are you saying it's a GOOD thing we're in the conspiracy section, or a bad thing?
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Thanks Bumper!

Yes, whether we are in the conspiracy section or not, what we think is pretty much contained to MJ fans; and, to a few boards at that. The general perception of us is that we are irrational, fanatical, etc and we are divided. What we think may not really make a difference as long as it is contained. If they see a comparison, they take it down, it is contained. Once you have people drawing attention to here from the general public, it becomes more of a threat. They do not want this out, for obvious reasons. If they see MJ fans calling out others, they have ammunition under the guise that maybe "most MJ fans are upset about these things" (even if it is not the case) and it allows them to be more proactive in trying to shut things down without looking like the bad guys.

ETA: TPI that is exactly what I mean. They feel it is "Under control" and contained so they simply remove the videos and are ok with that. You don't want to give them a whiff of what you want to do before you have the chance to do it. Calling attention to what was going on here, gives the impression that it is not contained as they wish and may make Sony more proactive then just taking links down. I am just trying to show there is real damage to calling attention to the work that was done here more than just a principle being lost.

You want Corps. to know what you are doing because YOU, are ready. If they shut things down to an extent that nothing can ever get out, all of your work is lost. If you don't think they would be real grimy to keep this from getting out, I think we have to think again. This would be a huge loss for them.

ETA again: I think the fact that they were going to release Monster and then changed their mind lends itself to this being true. Do you think they stopped releasing that just because fans complained? I think they were worried about all of the questions that would be asked and what they would have to explain. They want this to just disappear.
 
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^^understood

and TPImaster, i'm right there with you. i do not have the skillz or software to do what you've done, but i definitely admire it. and i'll do whatever ELSE i can do to get this out. i'm never ever letting this go.
 
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thanks ginvid for your explanation.

tpi master, again, we are so proud of what you are doing. your works speak millions. they are mind-blowing. we cannot let this issue go.
 
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AnnieRUOkay89 said:
Oh, believe me, I understand. It just kills me to see people say they do what they do for Michael, surely Michael taught us to treat one another better than that. That doesn't excuse KingMikeJ's actions, but sheesh.
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azsummergirl said:
^ok i hear what you're saying. but it goes both ways. words were exchanged on both sides of the fence, ya know?
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actually when you look to my case at twitter: I was merely posting here. I wasn't aware of that person's twitter account. I wasn't tweeting "defense" about Cascio's (other than answering to Damien occasionally who I get along very well and talk and joke around on other subjects as well). My twitter is focused on legal and estate matters.

that person made the effort to reach to me , started cursing me out and continued to do it even I didn't reply in a similar manner.

As you can see unfortunately there are people out there that would simply curse you because they can't handle a difference of opinion. And I really do not think there's anything that justifies such behavior. Especially when it's not provoked or responded to in a similar way.

Unfortunately I see similar behavior being carried to this very forum in the form of "I'm going to say this about believers...". It's a disappointing really. And I agree with Annie is this what Michael taught us? Is this acceptable among us?
 
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ivy said:
actually when you look to my case at twitter: I was merely posting here. I wasn't aware of that person's twitter account. I wasn't tweeting "defense" about Cascio's (other than answering to Damien occasionally who I get along very well and talk and joke around on other subjects as well). My twitter is focused on legal and estate matters.

that person made the effort to reach to me , started cursing me out and continued to do it even I didn't reply in a similar manner.

As you can see unfortunately there are people out there that would simply curse you because they can't handle a difference of opinion. And I really do not think there's anything that justifies such behavior. Especially when it's not provoked or responded to in a similar way.

Unfortunately I see similar behavior being carried to this very forum in the form of "I'm going to say this about believers...". It's a disappointing really. And I agree with Annie is this what Michael taught us? Is this acceptable among us?
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Michael certainly didn't teach us to report anyone to... SONY
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Michael certainly didn't taught us to report anyone to... SONY
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and how does that legitimize the behavior against me? :) I certainly didn't report anyone to anyone. or Gaz? who went out of his way to reverse a request from Sony about certain members?
 
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ivy said:
and how does that legitimize the behavior against me? :) I certainly didn't report anyone to anyone. or Gaz? who went out of his way to reverse a request from Sony about certain members?
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Well no one is blaming Gaz for anything in this thread. It is KingMikeMJ who brought his dipsute about I don't kno who and Gaz to this thread. We never asked for any of it. We were happily having a sex debate.
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Well no one is blaming Gaz for anything in this thread. It is KingMikeMJ who brought his dipsute about I don't kno who and Gaz to this thread. We never asked for any of it. We were happily having a sex debate.
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we need to get boobs and balls back here. :naughty:
 
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^^
That same person on twitter is also attacking Gaz by cursing, making fun of, photoshop etc. That's what I was referring to.

and my point is even if you do nothing you can still get attacked because you've seen a supporter to those songs.

and sex debate :) sometimes it gets too heated I guess and makes me wish for the happy sponge bob days :p
 
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They want this to just disappear.
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It's a little to late for that, they should have known better.

All this was happening before BN even streamed online!
They were warned before hand by many and they simply didn't care, they should have known controversy would happen.
 
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ivy said:
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That same person on twitter is also attacking Gaz by cursing, making fun of, photoshop etc. That's what I was referring to.

and my point is even if you do nothing you can still get attacked because you've seen a supporter to those songs.

and sex debate :) sometimes it gets too heated I guess and makes me wish for the happy sponge bob days :p
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you prefer Spongebob talk over sex talk? :mello: lol
 
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i don't blame ivy. spongebob looks sexy with his underpants! :heat:
 
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:)

well I think this thread is occupied by males more than females so much of the stuff posted didn't really relate to me. So yep I'll go with sponge bob.
 
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ivy said:
:)

well I think this thread is occupied by males more than females so much of the stuff posted didn't really relate to me. So yep I'll go with sponge bob.
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do you want the link to NF? ;)
 
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I just wanna say that SONY got screw big time. Casios showed them who's boss, because they actually managed to sell them fake tracks for millions of dollars. Then $ONY realised what had happened and now they will try to sell us that garbage so they aren't the screwed one. We as fans were deffinately confused in the beginning. The fact that Michael haven't released a song for many years made some think wheter his voice actually changed. But in no time we were sure that those tracks are not Michael. And now we are almost sure that the singer is that Malachi guy, who maybe got screw by the Casios. Guys we are a victim of what I would like to call "The fraud of the century". Lets show them that we are stronger force, because Sony does NOT hold Michael and his magic. They will try to destroy it, but we will always keep it alive and that is how we are going to show them. They will never break our spirits.

Edit: Do you know why Sony is so vicious when a new snippet of alleged Casio song is leaked? I think it's because we will find out that this is Malachi BEFORE they have put Michaels name on it. They have fears too.
 
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love is magical said:
i don't blame ivy. spongebob looks sexy with his underpants! :heat:
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I found a good compromise. We all have a choice here. Look in the left corner ---- Spongebob slippers :naughty:



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FOR GIRLS:

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Now ive been trying to understand and look over this thread for a few weeks. 747 pages is alot to read. I want to believe its Michael on the tracks, but also i want to be convinced that it isnt. I like Monster, KYHU, Stay....i even like BN. but something just doesnt seem correct.
 
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