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Michael - The Great Album Debate

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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Well you may take it back, cuz it doesn't change a damn thing. What has been done cannot be undone in this particular situation with repots to SONY. Can you go and tweet and say to SONY, oh please don't listen to the comparison? I don't believe so.
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Exactly, I can't change the past so that's why I'm apoligizing. You want me to undo it? Get me one of these:

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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

So you feel sorry for notifying Sony of the comparisons just so they'd take them down?

I was very saddened by it. Even when I disagreed with the people who think these are faked I still didn't think it was necessary to remove these videos. We should be listening to them and finding out the truth or they should just give us the proof that it's MJ and people wouldn't have to compare.

Why didn't you use your tweet to tell them to release more evidence that it's MJ? Have you tweeted them that? Are you not interested in doing that because you hear Michael?

It seems to me like you felt personally attacked by some of the 'doubters' and were seeking a little revenge, perhaps, but I don't think it's necessary, I don't think you should take any of this personal.

We are all Michael Jackson fans searching for the truth and we shouldn't be attacking each other because that only creates conflicts like we saw today! Let's work together and figure this out!!!

And boobs and a mikeshake, please!
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Exactly, I can't change the past so that's why I'm apoligizing. You want me to undo it? Get me one of these:

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There are times when even the word "sorry" doesn't suffice. It is not the words, but the deeds that count.

Many people may be angry at each other and say sorry to each other, that's fine, but going as far as reporting rather than denouncing the split of the fanbase is just low and lame. You should have thought twice before reporting the comparisons.

We have had two fans here who devoted their precious time in making the comparisons and who had been banned only because they fought for what they believed is good for Michael's legacy. And you go straight to SONY. It was unnecessary and immature. No one needs your apology, especially because yesterday you were victimizing yourself reporting to this board about some arguments on twitter, but you didn't do better by using your own 4-word langauge here towards peopel who coudln't defend themselves.

Just makes me sick
 
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Aniram said:
So you feel sorry for notifying Sony of the comparisons just so they'd take them down?

I was very saddened by it. Even when I disagreed with the people who think these are faked I still didn't think it was necessary to remove these videos. We should be listening to them and finding out the truth or they should just give us the proof that it's MJ and people wouldn't have to compare.

Why didn't you use your tweet to tell them to release more evidence that it's MJ? Have you tweeted them that? Are you not interested in doing that because you hear Michael?

It seems to me like you felt personally attacked by some of the 'doubters' and were seeking a little revenge, perhaps, but I don't think it's necessary, I don't think you should take any of this personal.

We are all Michael Jackson fans searching for the truth and we shouldn't be attacking each other because that only creates conflicts like we saw today! Let's work together and figure this out!!!
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I've said I'm not bringing Twitter into this again but if you have seen what people (Cartman, Upside) have said to be on Twitter, you will know why I have taken it personally.

Unfortunately, it's hard to work together when you have people saying "if you hear Michael, you're not a real fan" and "if you hear Michael, you're a wanker".
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
There are times when even the word "sorry" doesn't suffice. It is not the words, but the deeds that count.

Many people may be angry at each other and say sorry to each other, that's fine, but going as far as reporting rather than denouncing the split of the fanbase is just low and lame. You should have thought twice before reporting the comparisons.

We have had two fans here who devoted their precious time in making the comparisons and who had been banned only because they fought for what they believed is good for Michael's legacy. And you go straight to SONY. It was unnecessary and immature. No one needs your apology, especially because yesterday you were victimizing yourself reporting to this board about some arguments on twitter, but you didn't do better by using your own 4-word langauge here towards peopel who coudln't defend themselves.

Just makes me sick
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Couldn't defend themselves? One of those people is Cartman at MJJC and the other one gets updated with what goes on in this thread.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

If you're going to take it too personally, block them or avoid it or ignore it or get off the computer. The internet is going to have bullies, that's all there is to it. Yes, even in the Michael Jackson community. You have to keep reminding yourself that you are searching for the truth, you truly are a Michael Jackson fan, etc. and not let it get to you. Just read what they say and move on. It should not affect you!!! People get talked at like that on a daily basis. Michael even went through it.

Remember that not all of us who think these tracks are fake are against you and mean bullies! Even people who are on your side can be mean! Don't let a couple people spoil your attitude like that.

ESPECIALLY a person like one named 'Eric Cartman'. Why would you take a person named 'Eric Cartman' seriously?
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Lets focus on what this thread is about and not my mistakes. We don't want it closed again.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

True, I just am bummed I can't show these comparison videos to people because they keep getting removed! I think a lot of people would respond to them, I think they are afraid of that.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Ok, what was done was done. Can we move on from this and back to the purpose of the thread? Thanks!
I think we make really bad decisions sometimes that we wish we could take back, but we can't. Also saying sorry doesn't change what has happened. I guess this is a situation where you just have to learn and grow.


Also, I know I am very late, but did anyone save some of the comparisons? I would like to listen to them. Can you PM me?
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Do Sony have a team of people who search for these comparison videos all day? I must have saved them a lot of time earlier.
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

The comparisons are truly eye opening. I'm sure several people have them backed up!

It is really sad, though. You realize what has been done and it's just mindblowing.
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Couldn't defend themselves? One of those people is Cartman at MJJC and the other one gets updated with what goes on in this thread.
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I saw some tweets against other people, they never brought it to this thtread, unlike you yesterday. I saw how Ivy was insulted over and over again, she never brought it here nor even denounced anyone. And she's also a believer like you. I never saw her tweet to SONY either.

So please, stop presenting yourself as the only victim here. There are other ways to defend yourself than betraying the whole community because of two individuals who attacked you.
 
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ginvid said:
Ok, what was done was done. Can we move on from this and back to the purpose of the thread? Thanks!
I think we make really bad decisions sometimes that we wish we could take back, but we can't. Also saying sorry doesn't change what has happened. I guess this is a situation where you just have to learn and grow.


Also, I know I am very late, but did anyone save some of the comparisons? I would like to listen to them. Can you PM me?
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Sorry, but I have difficulties to digest some things.

p.s. I have saved the last one.
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Couldn't defend themselves? One of those people is Cartman at MJJC and the other one gets updated with what goes on in this thread.
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Are you talking about Sam? If so, doesn't matter...i'm not updating him anymore...
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Already taken care of. I am sooo slow! Thanks!

Please PM me what you have if it is the one that was good that everyone was talking about.

Thanks Bumper!
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
I saw some tweets against other people, they never brought it to this thtread, unlike you yesterday. I saw how Ivy was insulted over and over again, she never brought it here nor even denounced anyone. And she's also a believer like you. I never saw her tweet to SONY either.

So please, stop presenting yourself as the only victim here. There are other ways to defend yourself than betraying the whole community because of two individuals who attacked you.
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Are you ready to MOVE ON? Or would you like to discuss me all day. I can't change what has been done, I can only change what is to come.
 
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Arklove said:
Are you talking about Sam? If so, doesn't matter...i'm not updating him anymore...
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No, I was talking about Upside. The guy who insulted Gaz and the community who disagrees with him. The one who was befriended by Justice_MJ for disliking me.
 
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@KingMikeJ - ah ok

Sorry ginvid :blush:
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Are you ready to MOVE ON? Or would you like to discuss me all day. I can't change what has been done, I can only change what is to come.
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Nah, we're all gonna stalk you now
 
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TPI I see you!!

EDIT: nvm..too late lol
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Like TPI was earlier?
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Don't act like I was stalking you. Please, don't flatter yourself. I have better things to do. (I even made new comparisons today, some are mindblowing and I hope to share them soon.)

The bottom line is you got caught. I had no problems with you and you told Sony to go take down MY comparisons. I took that as a personal offence as you're trying to keep the world from seeing what took me two months on and off to compile.

Now stop trying to defend your cowardly acts and move on yourself. I will keep reposting those comparison videos anyways. New links are coming tomorrow.

Arklove said:
TPI I see you!!
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Hi! :)
 
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I don't think sony has any big team searching for comparisons.... All they'd have to do is check this thread or the twitter accounts of a few people. Anyway isn't it jabme music that has stuff taken down? Who else? Isn't it mainly malachi, cascios, porte claiming copyright violation not necessarily sony? I think they are the ones feeling threatened not sony. We need to appeal to the estate. Try to make them listen. Brainstorm people!Why not post the comparisons on mj facebook page? Google articles on the album and leave links in the comments. Join other fan forums and post them there... Why is it only here and max jax that there appears to even be any discussion? It's so frustrating! Gonna sleep now. Lovers not fighters guys! Goodnight
 
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That was terrible! So, so bad! They ought to be ashamed. I just don't know what to say. They are so wrong for that crap. So wrong. Now c'mon, don't tell me Teddy could not see that was not MJ?
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Just wanted this to be seen:

Stop it now with the personal commentaries, and please get back to the thread topic. Final time asking folks. :flowers:

Do you guys want these links to be shared outside of MJJC? Are we trying to let as many people as possible know about them or are we keeping them for this thread?
 
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ginvid said:
That was terrible! So, so bad! They ought to be ashamed. I just don't know what to say. They are so wrong for that crap. So wrong. Now c'mon, don't tell me Teddy could not see that was not MJ?
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Taryll claimed Teddy worked on the tracks knowing they were fake in hopes of getting a real track, which he did of course with "Hollywood Tonight".

ginvid said:
Do you guys want these links to be shared outside of MJJC? Are we trying to let as many people as possible know about them or are we keeping them for this thread?
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I want everyone to post them everywhere and make this whole thing blow up, but with the videos and links normally getting removed within 24 hours, it gets hard to do that. But I'm working on fixing that problem. :yes: For now I just repost new links in the topic here and on MaxJax because I know people will go to for information on this subject.
 
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TPIMaster said:
Don't act like I was stalking you. Please, don't flatter yourself. I have better things to do. (I even made new comparisons today, some are mindblowing and I hope to share them soon.)

The bottom line is you got caught. I had no problems with you and you told Sony to go take down MY comparisons. I took that as a personal offence as you're trying to keep the world from seeing what took me two months on and off to compile.

Now stop trying to defend your cowardly acts and move on yourself. I will keep reposting those comparison videos anyways. New links are coming tomorrow.



Hi! :)
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Hey TPI, I kno wit takes a hellova time, but could you make the whole song with let me let go and monster
Where from Belgium are you? Are you a French speaker or a Flemish speaker? ;-)
 
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

So much for friends. Now I doubt everything they say. How could you be so low and try to deceive people that way? If you would do that, there's no telling what you might do.
 
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