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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
??? I don't understand. Please explain. You can send a PM if you like.
??? I don't understand. Please explain. You can send a PM if you like.
azsummergirl
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
@tpi, i can't wait to hear your new comparisons! i have been sharing them by email with some of my non-fan friends, and even they are blown away. I also have been trying to contact Geraldo Rivera. I email his show every day . . . lol, lame, i know, and he probably won't ever respond, but if he does that would be awesome! i would LOVE for this to blow up
@tpi, i can't wait to hear your new comparisons! i have been sharing them by email with some of my non-fan friends, and even they are blown away. I also have been trying to contact Geraldo Rivera. I email his show every day . . . lol, lame, i know, and he probably won't ever respond, but if he does that would be awesome! i would LOVE for this to blow up
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
I actually didn't make that one, that is Upside's mix and he's working on a complete version. He's banned from here, but he has been posting box.net links of his work in progress on his Twitter for the last few days (https://twitter.com/#!/xMidnightRider). I'm sure he'll be posting more of it soon.
I'm from Antwerp, so I am a Flemish speaker, you?
I actually didn't make that one, that is Upside's mix and he's working on a complete version. He's banned from here, but he has been posting box.net links of his work in progress on his Twitter for the last few days (https://twitter.com/#!/xMidnightRider). I'm sure he'll be posting more of it soon.
I'm from Antwerp, so I am a Flemish speaker, you?
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
I think I'm just going to leave this thread. It's no longer a debate because the only "believers" that post here are me and ivy. There are more but they just can't be bothered debating and arguing. To be honest, I can't be bothered anymore either and I don't see the point in it. We have all made up our minds, and this has turned into a one sided debate.
I think I'm just going to leave this thread. It's no longer a debate because the only "believers" that post here are me and ivy. There are more but they just can't be bothered debating and arguing. To be honest, I can't be bothered anymore either and I don't see the point in it. We have all made up our minds, and this has turned into a one sided debate.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
ginvid, isn't is absolutely appalling? You can basically click anywhere in the comparison videos and the voices are identical. It is sick and bizarre.
ginvid, isn't is absolutely appalling? You can basically click anywhere in the comparison videos and the voices are identical. It is sick and bizarre.
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
The comparisons I made today are only a few, but they're something alright. And getting Geraldo to cover this story would be amazing, hope you succeed! :wild:
The comparisons I made today are only a few, but they're something alright. And getting Geraldo to cover this story would be amazing, hope you succeed! :wild:
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azsummergirl
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
not "everyone has made up their minds" it's not like people's minds can't be changed. that's what the comparison videos are for.
not "everyone has made up their minds" it's not like people's minds can't be changed. that's what the comparison videos are for.
bluetopez
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
TPIMaster great job! I still don't have that album and never will! Those 3 tracks are clearly Jason! I bought a MJ box set of DVDs yrs ago and it came with one CD of MJ songs in it from J5 songs to invincible. But, it had these bonus tracks that were suppose to be him too. lol And when I heard the songs I knew it was not MJ! Later, I come to find out it was a guy named Jason who was all over you tube with those songs!
And I was pist that people were buying this box set thinking that those bonus tracks were MJ. But, I never would have imagined that Sony would actually hire this dude and pass him off as MJ. SMH So, my jaw literally drop when I first heard the voice on BN, I said *Oh my god that's that Jason guy!* It's a real shame. I fear for any new MJ album in the future, since they bought 12 tracks from MJ's good ol friends the Casio's.
TPIMaster great job! I still don't have that album and never will! Those 3 tracks are clearly Jason! I bought a MJ box set of DVDs yrs ago and it came with one CD of MJ songs in it from J5 songs to invincible. But, it had these bonus tracks that were suppose to be him too. lol And when I heard the songs I knew it was not MJ! Later, I come to find out it was a guy named Jason who was all over you tube with those songs!
And I was pist that people were buying this box set thinking that those bonus tracks were MJ. But, I never would have imagined that Sony would actually hire this dude and pass him off as MJ. SMH So, my jaw literally drop when I first heard the voice on BN, I said *Oh my god that's that Jason guy!* It's a real shame. I fear for any new MJ album in the future, since they bought 12 tracks from MJ's good ol friends the Casio's.
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
It is appalling. I just texted my friend. I hope she calls back tonight. I hope she tells me some good news. TPI, I will check out the comparisons in the other link as well.
It is appalling. I just texted my friend. I hope she calls back tonight. I hope she tells me some good news. TPI, I will check out the comparisons in the other link as well.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
From Leuven, but French speaker. I speak Dutch though.
I actually didn't make that one, that is Upside's mix and he's working on a complete version. He's banned from here, but he has been posting box.net links of his work in progress on his Twitter for the last few days (https://twitter.com/#!/xMidnightRider). I'm sure he'll be posting more of it soon.
I'm from Antwerp, so I am a Flemish speaker, you?
From Leuven, but French speaker. I speak Dutch though.
azsummergirl
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
Ok, and here's the thing. This debate is not a debate of opinions. One side IS correct. It is either michael singing lead vocals, or it isn't. there's no grey area. even if you're someone that believes that there are heavy backing vocals, or some support vocals, it still either has to be MJ on lead vocals, or someone else.
It's a fact. we're not debating about a philosophy that can't be proved like "what is your position on immigration policy?" or "should every income bracket pay the same taxes?" or something like that. it's ONE or it's the OTHER.
and because it's provable, the argument is certainly NOT pointless. of course people are going to change their minds. that's the point
i don't know if i actually got across what i'm trying to say, but that's the best i could do.
Ok, and here's the thing. This debate is not a debate of opinions. One side IS correct. It is either michael singing lead vocals, or it isn't. there's no grey area. even if you're someone that believes that there are heavy backing vocals, or some support vocals, it still either has to be MJ on lead vocals, or someone else.
It's a fact. we're not debating about a philosophy that can't be proved like "what is your position on immigration policy?" or "should every income bracket pay the same taxes?" or something like that. it's ONE or it's the OTHER.
and because it's provable, the argument is certainly NOT pointless. of course people are going to change their minds. that's the point
i don't know if i actually got across what i'm trying to say, but that's the best i could do.
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
You're not the first person to say this.....You'll be back...We've been living here for 6 months..we've seen it all lol
You're not the first person to say this.....You'll be back...We've been living here for 6 months..we've seen it all lol
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
Thanks! We've been trying to explain that for more than 700 pages now and there are still some people who think that we can find a compromise.
There is no compromise. It is MJ or it is not. From the moment you injetct someone else's vocals as lead vocals it is not an MJ song anymore!
Great post summergirl!
Thanks! We've been trying to explain that for more than 700 pages now and there are still some people who think that we can find a compromise.
There is no compromise. It is MJ or it is not. From the moment you injetct someone else's vocals as lead vocals it is not an MJ song anymore!
Great post summergirl!
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
Just a little question
After months of seeing comparison videos being taken down in merely hours / days , do you think "reporting" them makes any difference?
Just a little question
After months of seeing comparison videos being taken down in merely hours / days , do you think "reporting" them makes any difference?
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
It is the principle Ivy. The fact that it is being reported is acting like crap to the whole MJJCommunity.
people spend time to make those comparisons because SONY doesn't provide any audiologist result, yet we have people who get banned here and whose work is being reported to SONY. YUCK!
P.S. Remark: I hadn't read Arklove's pots beforehand. It is a coincidence that we both used the word "principle"
It is the principle Ivy. The fact that it is being reported is acting like crap to the whole MJJCommunity.
people spend time to make those comparisons because SONY doesn't provide any audiologist result, yet we have people who get banned here and whose work is being reported to SONY. YUCK!
P.S. Remark: I hadn't read Arklove's pots beforehand. It is a coincidence that we both used the word "principle"
azsummergirl
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
no, it's not a coincidence. i was going to answer "it's the principle" too. but it took me a second to find the picture i needed:
note: i'm just answering ivy's direct question
no, it's not a coincidence. i was going to answer "it's the principle" too. but it took me a second to find the picture i needed:
note: i'm just answering ivy's direct question
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
I expected "it's the principle" answer.
I actually wondered if it would have eased your mind if you knew it probably didn't make any difference in regards to the removal (and removal speed). I personally received emails multiple times due to my posts directly from the parties I mentioned in my posts (all non -vocals related). so you wouldn't believe who are reading this forum, it's sometimes even scary.
I expected "it's the principle" answer.
I actually wondered if it would have eased your mind if you knew it probably didn't make any difference in regards to the removal (and removal speed). I personally received emails multiple times due to my posts directly from the parties I mentioned in my posts (all non -vocals related). so you wouldn't believe who are reading this forum, it's sometimes even scary.
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
You don't read my pots? You should! They're really interesting!
You don't read my pots? You should! They're really interesting!
azsummergirl
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I don't agree with KingMikeJ's actions, but what I do find appalling is the treatment this person is receiving on Twitter from fellow fans. I understand we should be passionate about this, but seriously, you can't make a video saying "Michael would be so proud". Then turn around and call anyone who believes in authenticity of these songs "wankers" and then go on to verbally harass a person.
It amazes me how many people co-signed this.
I don't agree with KingMikeJ's actions, but what I do find appalling is the treatment this person is receiving on Twitter from fellow fans. I understand we should be passionate about this, but seriously, you can't make a video saying "Michael would be so proud". Then turn around and call anyone who believes in authenticity of these songs "wankers" and then go on to verbally harass a person.
It amazes me how many people co-signed this.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
We are used to files being removed. That's the game. We just don't like cheaters, betrayers and ruiners of the game.
I saw how insulted you were on tweeter by some people/kids, you didn't copy-paste their insults here and you stayed correct. That behavior is to be admired. But whining around and looking for revenge (indirectly) against the whole community is low.
We are used to files being removed. That's the game. We just don't like cheaters, betrayers and ruiners of the game.
I saw how insulted you were on tweeter by some people/kids, you didn't copy-paste their insults here and you stayed correct. That behavior is to be admired. But whining around and looking for revenge (indirectly) against the whole community is low.
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
Well people on twitter as I could see are all but polite, so I even don't bother going there and even less discussing anything and even less reporting tweets here on this board and even less reporting to SONY. So as you can see there are many steps and some really shouldn't have been trespassed.
Well people on twitter as I could see are all but polite, so I even don't bother going there and even less discussing anything and even less reporting tweets here on this board and even less reporting to SONY. So as you can see there are many steps and some really shouldn't have been trespassed.
azsummergirl
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
twitter is twitter. welcome to the world wide web. if u don't like what someone's saying to you, you block them. you don't bring it to mjjc, which is a moderated forum. internetz = not moderated. here = yes moderated. if someone has a problem with someone on twitter, he/she should just take it up with those people directly, or, better yet, ignore them.
twitter is twitter. welcome to the world wide web. if u don't like what someone's saying to you, you block them. you don't bring it to mjjc, which is a moderated forum. internetz = not moderated. here = yes moderated. if someone has a problem with someone on twitter, he/she should just take it up with those people directly, or, better yet, ignore them.
Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
People come to this forum to read what we have here. When they think it is contained to a small group of people in a conspiracy section, they may not feel it is as much of a threat here. Once that is taken from the community with a red target sign and pointers say, "Look at what they are doing here!", if I were a member of a group of people interested in damage control, I might wonder a bit more and look into other actions besides just taking something down. As more people start to notice, they will react moreso just to save face and make an example. It hampers the movements of the whole community.
People come to this forum to read what we have here. When they think it is contained to a small group of people in a conspiracy section, they may not feel it is as much of a threat here. Once that is taken from the community with a red target sign and pointers say, "Look at what they are doing here!", if I were a member of a group of people interested in damage control, I might wonder a bit more and look into other actions besides just taking something down. As more people start to notice, they will react moreso just to save face and make an example. It hampers the movements of the whole community.