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Michael - The Great Album Debate

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Aniram said:
You forget that Michael Jackson was a person that suffered from lots of illness and struggled with many problems. He went through surgeries, he went through back problems, his joints ached from years of dancing, he no doubt had arthritis. We could go on and on about these issues.

Truth is, Sam, you have absolutely no idea how sick Michael Jackson got at times, especially after the 2005 Trials. He may not have ALWAYS been with his children. What if he had to be hospitalized sometimes? What if he had to have a nanny watch the children while he rested and got better?

Perhaps Michael Jackson, in his later years, didn't ALWAYS have the time to rehearse and dance and train his voice to the perfection that he had in his early career? Maybe he didn't even FEEL like doing it anymore from working SO HARD ALL HIS LIFE? Why don't you give the man a break instead of expecting that he was always working his ass off and creating the next biggest thing topping Thriller.

Maybe he just wanted to create what he wanted to create and he wanted to do it at his pace and maybe not all of it sounded amazing. None of that takes away from the fact that he was an angel, an amazing human being, one of the best to have ever lived, the best of our generation.
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But what does ANY of what you just posted have to do with the fact that Michael Jackson doesn't sound like himself on these Cascio songs, yet sounds like himself on HMH, TII, etc., etc., etc.,??

You've alluded to this several times, and we've debunked it several times....You might want to give it up now...
 
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samhabib said:
Here he is again doing his best Jason Malachi impression without vocal warm-ups. Or maybe he had warm-ups for court and not for the studio?!?! It's almost funny really!

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Just wonder how many peopel would recognise him if I removed the parts where he was talking...
 
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That was a clear recording, in a professional studio, with Akon. A little different than working in Eddie's shower.

Haha, telling me to give it up. You guys are always telling me that. Last time I told you to give it up you were all like "I WILL NEVER GIVE THIS UP, EVER"
 
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Dorian said:
Just wonder how many peopel would recognise him if I removed the parts where he was talking...
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What? :scratch:
 
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The way Aniram descirbes it, I would picture Michael in the studio lying in the bed with three Baxter infusions and a bunch of surgeons and doctors running around Michael while he's recording the songs at the Cascios' studio.
 
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Aniram said:
You forget that Michael Jackson was a person that suffered from lots of illness and struggled with many problems. He went through surgeries, he went through back problems, his joints ached from years of dancing, he no doubt had arthritis. We could go on and on about these issues.

Truth is, Sam, you have absolutely no idea how sick Michael Jackson got at times, especially after the 2005 Trials. He may not have ALWAYS been with his children. What if he had to be hospitalized sometimes? What if he had to have a nanny watch the children while he rested and got better?

Perhaps Michael Jackson, in his later years, didn't ALWAYS have the time to rehearse and dance and train his voice to the perfection that he had in his early career? Maybe he didn't even FEEL like doing it anymore from working SO HARD ALL HIS LIFE? Why don't you give the man a break instead of expecting that he was always working his ass off and creating the next biggest thing topping Thriller.

Maybe he just wanted to create what he wanted to create and he wanted to do it at his pace and maybe not all of it sounded amazing. None of that takes away from the fact that he was an angel, an amazing human being, one of the best to have ever lived, the best of our generation.
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Yeah, maybe this, maybe that... keep clutching. He chose the moment when he was so sick that he sounded like Jason Malachi to be at his most productive in years... of course he did.

None of your theory stands up because Hold My Hand, Best of Joy and the live portions of This Is It prove you so utterly wrong.

Unlucky.
 
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Dorian said:
Just wonder how many peopel would recognise him if I removed the parts where he was talking...
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Yeah he sounds just like Jason Malachi when he sings, right?
 
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Best Of Joy and This Is It? :lol: 2009?
 
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Aniram said:
Best Of Joy and This Is It? :lol: 2009?
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Yeah, funny right? Which proves that you have no idea what you're talking about. "Maybe Michael was so sick, blah blah blah..." It's excuse after excuse after excuse. At what stage does the penny drop and you realise "shit... it's REALLY not Michael Jackson on these ridiculous recordings"???
 
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Michael may have never used the shower. Eddie said it, only words. No proof. Far as we know, that shower could have been a bath in 2007.
 
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Arklove said:
What? :scratch:
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Sorry my bad.Was talking on the phone with my Psychology teacher.Have to finish a project and English is not my native language.

I was just sayin` that some people would doubt that video if I cut the parts where Michael is talking :)
 
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Water is coming....the debate will explote with that:
Heaven can wait 2
 
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It is funny to me. I think Michael was likely feeling a little more sick in 2007 than in 2008.

We don't hear any of what him and Will.I.Am worked on. Obviously it probably didn't sound that great.

And maybe he wasn't even more sick in early 2007, just relaxed and unrehearsed, maybe a little edgy.

2009 was a different atmosphere for him, plus he'd obviously been in the studio for nearly about 3 years and working hard for This Is It. Totally different. Shows that you don't know what you're talking about, not that I don't know what I'm talking about.
 
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Kapital77 said:
Water is coming....the debate will explote with that:
Heaven can wait 2
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i heard the snippet that was leaked, but are you telling that the full one is going to leak?
 
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Aniram said:
It is funny to me. I think Michael was likely feeling a little more sick in 2007 than in 2008.

We don't hear any of what him and Will.I.Am worked on. Obviously it probably didn't sound that great.

And maybe he wasn't even more sick in early 2007, just relaxed and unrehearsed, maybe a little edgy.

2009 was a different atmosphere for him, plus he'd obviously been in the studio for nearly about 3 years and working hard for This Is It. Totally different. Shows that you don't know what you're talking about, not that I don't know what I'm talking about.
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You're right. You're a bastion of real fanhood. I stand corrected. An unrehearsed Michael Jackson sounds like a rehearsed Jason Malachi. Got it.
 
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I don't hear Jason Malachi on these tracks. Their voices just sound different. If you read my previous post I said it sounds more like a robot.
 
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Dorian said:
Sorry my bad.Was talking on the phone with my Psychology teacher.Have to finish a project and English is not my native language.

I was just sayin` that some people would doubt that video if I cut the parts where Michael is talking :)
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ah ok....However, then I'd say that they don't know his voice. Period :D
 
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Kapital77 said:
Water is coming....the debate will explote with that:
Heaven can wait 2
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Is this for real dear Kapital? :)
 
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Yeah, 'cause Michael Jackson NEVER re-used commercially released lyrics for other commercially released songs...
 
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My understanding according to Aniram's reasons why Michael would sound different on the Cascio tracks:

Michael recording 12 songs at the Cascio studios, the actual proof:

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Michael experiencing the shower recording while being sick in the Cascio studio:

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I don't know you guys, but if I were sick to the point to sound like a soundalike, why would I even record 12 songs?
 
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does sound like him!! :):)
 
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IF I was a believer, believing the songs were Michael, I STILL wouldn't think THAT was Michael.
 
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Gotta be a fake with the real Water put over Heaven Can Wait?
 
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Pentum said:
IF I was a believer, believing the songs were Michael, I STILL wouldn't think THAT was Michael.
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Pentum can you leak the whole thing?Water is intriguing...
 
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Keyword: everything is subjective and whether you are enjoying the songs.

Until there is valid proof.
 
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You can find the acapella of Heaven Can Wait easily. I think it was mixed over the song.
 
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bluesky said:
Keyword: everything is subjective and whether you are enjoying the songs.
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No it isn't. EVERYTHING isn't subjective.
 
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So the Water song basically STEALS the identical parts from Heaven Can Wait?

No, I don't wanna leave my baby alone, Leave us alone
I don't want nobody else to hold you
That's the chance I'll take
Baby, I'll stay, heaven can wait

They use that part? Are you serious?
 
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