Casey R
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Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Cascio Controversy Thread)
Nobody has done it because it isn't possible. Melodyne doesn't change the tone of someone's voice or make them pronounce words differently. Furthermore, there's a limit to what you can do, and what I mean by that is that you can only do so much before the vocal is OBVIOUSLY overly processed and sounds completely unnatural. And by "unnatural" I don't mean sounding like a different person. I mean just stupid sounding, glitchy, shifting from note to note in a way that isn't even humanly possible, etc. It just sounds like garbage, like hitting random notes on a keyboard and expecting it to sound like a melody. These Cascio vocals are not "overly processed", because they are regular melodies that are possible for anyone to sing without much effort. They really haven't been processed much at all. There's a small amount of autotune, a small amount of Melodyne, and the rest is regular compression, reverb and EQ. That's it.
Is there any evidence to suggest that Taryll knows or has anything to do with the Cascio's? No. So, you're just pulling ideas out of thin air.
Regarding Cory and Taryll's song.... do you see them attacking Akon? Lenny Kravitz? Neff-U? The Cascio songs represent only 30% of the album. They allegedly have 9 more songs. If you think Taryll is the type to get mad because his song got rejected, you need to study his character a little more. Taryll had songs released with Michael when Eddie Cascio was a CHILD.
If Taryll believed the Cascio songs were real - he wouldn't DARE speak out against them. His uncle was his IDOL. You simply cannot compare the relationship of the third generation Jacksons to the second. Michael's peers, his siblings, and his elders have at times taken advantage of them, yes. But their argument is that they were there and part of his career from 1969 to 1984, and they believe that entitles them to act however the hell they choose. I'm not saying that's right. It clearly isn't.
But to even suggest that a third generation family member would even dare to try and take advantage is RIDICULOUS. This is largely a conservative family that respects their elders. Do you think Genevieve would dare to distort the facts about her uncle for her own gain? What about Siggy? Do you think Brandi would? Do you think Austin Brown would? The answer is obviously NO.
Look, it's like this. They say the apple never falls too far from the tree. Look at Tito. A kindhearted, gentle guy. Arguably the only brother who never attempted to capitalize or take advantage of Michael. Hell, he never even released a solo album or even tried to. Now go watch a 3T interview and two things should be VERY apparent to you. One is that they share that same personality. And the second is how much they adored and idolized their uncle.
And yet you want to claim that 3T might have malicious intents? That they might exploit their uncle for their own personal gain? PLEASE. These guys might be least malicious adults in the whole family.
There is ONE reason, and ONE reason alone why 3T are mad as hell about the Cascio songs. It's not because they feel slighted because their song didn't get picked. It's not because they have some sort of personal issue with the Cascio family. It's not because they are plotting to take over the Estate. You want to know what that one reason is, well here it is:
They love their uncle dearly, and they, who spent countless hours with their uncle for over 30 years, do NOT believe it is him singing these songs. And neither do I.
Irrelevant point. Both Taj and Jackie have a say in the Estate. They are the ONLY family members that do. If you read the album credits you'll see both of their names in the list of people that assist the Estate, and they are the only family members listed. Yet they've both spoken out saying they don't believe it's Michael on these songs. Them speaking out actually ENDANGERS their position within the Estate, it doesn't help it. What Joe or Randy think is not relevant to what Taj or Jackie think. Joe and Randy have nothing to lose. Taj does, and so does Jackie.
Nobody has done it because it isn't possible. Melodyne doesn't change the tone of someone's voice or make them pronounce words differently. Furthermore, there's a limit to what you can do, and what I mean by that is that you can only do so much before the vocal is OBVIOUSLY overly processed and sounds completely unnatural. And by "unnatural" I don't mean sounding like a different person. I mean just stupid sounding, glitchy, shifting from note to note in a way that isn't even humanly possible, etc. It just sounds like garbage, like hitting random notes on a keyboard and expecting it to sound like a melody. These Cascio vocals are not "overly processed", because they are regular melodies that are possible for anyone to sing without much effort. They really haven't been processed much at all. There's a small amount of autotune, a small amount of Melodyne, and the rest is regular compression, reverb and EQ. That's it.
Is there any evidence to suggest that Taryll knows or has anything to do with the Cascio's? No. So, you're just pulling ideas out of thin air.
Regarding Cory and Taryll's song.... do you see them attacking Akon? Lenny Kravitz? Neff-U? The Cascio songs represent only 30% of the album. They allegedly have 9 more songs. If you think Taryll is the type to get mad because his song got rejected, you need to study his character a little more. Taryll had songs released with Michael when Eddie Cascio was a CHILD.
If Taryll believed the Cascio songs were real - he wouldn't DARE speak out against them. His uncle was his IDOL. You simply cannot compare the relationship of the third generation Jacksons to the second. Michael's peers, his siblings, and his elders have at times taken advantage of them, yes. But their argument is that they were there and part of his career from 1969 to 1984, and they believe that entitles them to act however the hell they choose. I'm not saying that's right. It clearly isn't.
But to even suggest that a third generation family member would even dare to try and take advantage is RIDICULOUS. This is largely a conservative family that respects their elders. Do you think Genevieve would dare to distort the facts about her uncle for her own gain? What about Siggy? Do you think Brandi would? Do you think Austin Brown would? The answer is obviously NO.
Look, it's like this. They say the apple never falls too far from the tree. Look at Tito. A kindhearted, gentle guy. Arguably the only brother who never attempted to capitalize or take advantage of Michael. Hell, he never even released a solo album or even tried to. Now go watch a 3T interview and two things should be VERY apparent to you. One is that they share that same personality. And the second is how much they adored and idolized their uncle.
And yet you want to claim that 3T might have malicious intents? That they might exploit their uncle for their own personal gain? PLEASE. These guys might be least malicious adults in the whole family.
There is ONE reason, and ONE reason alone why 3T are mad as hell about the Cascio songs. It's not because they feel slighted because their song didn't get picked. It's not because they have some sort of personal issue with the Cascio family. It's not because they are plotting to take over the Estate. You want to know what that one reason is, well here it is:
They love their uncle dearly, and they, who spent countless hours with their uncle for over 30 years, do NOT believe it is him singing these songs. And neither do I.
Irrelevant point. Both Taj and Jackie have a say in the Estate. They are the ONLY family members that do. If you read the album credits you'll see both of their names in the list of people that assist the Estate, and they are the only family members listed. Yet they've both spoken out saying they don't believe it's Michael on these songs. Them speaking out actually ENDANGERS their position within the Estate, it doesn't help it. What Joe or Randy think is not relevant to what Taj or Jackie think. Joe and Randy have nothing to lose. Taj does, and so does Jackie.
