Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)
They're just 3 more MJ songs to me. I like them much more than most of the stuff on Invincible. Ironically, I like them more because all of MJ's trademark yelps and hiccups and woo-hoos are on the Cascio tracks, whereas MJ seems to have consciously stepped away from those trademarks on Invincible. We barely even get a "hee-hee" on Invincible : at least they're on the Cascio tracks.
So, the more "hee hee" and "hoo hoo", the better the MJ song.
You know the "hee hee" and "hoo hoo" you love so much are cut and pasted from other genuine MJ songs, right?
There's not a 'hee hee' or a 'hoo hoo' on Butterflies and Speechless, but they're two of his greatest songs ever. Do you judge MJ songs on how many 'hee hees' and 'hoo hoo's they have? Is Walk Right Now your favourite song by any chance?
unk: Big thank you! I love Speechless to death! Your love is magical... :cheeky:
Yet again, washed in ignorance. You don't listen do you. Your grouping all the 'doubters' again saying everyone of them all thought it was malachi. If you want read the entire history of my posts in this or any thread, i don't believe Michael sings these songs, but i never said Malachi did either. And that's just doubter number 1 that you've incorrectly stereotyped.
Another big thank you. I'm doubter number 2 that don't want to be stereotyped. One can also read the entire history of my posts in this forum, I have never ever said it's Malachi. I said I don't believe the songs are Michael's.
Like what Alanna said, I don't care who the impersonator was. All I care is why the songs do not sound like Michael.
But why? Why do you have a problem with all of the above, when they're all entirely plausible and consistent with the official chronology of what happened?
MJ was friends with the Cascios. He stayed with them for months. They had an amateur studio. He agreed to record with them. Now some of these songs are on the new album.
In what way is all of this difficult to accept? And in what way is it more unbelievable than the alternative, which is the hoax storyline?
Could I venture another psychological theory? Could it be that some fans, for whom MJ always was and always will be the biggest superstar in the world, just don't like the idea that, at the end of his life, his situation really had changed to the point where he wouldn't think it unworthy of him to do just what he did : record a bunch of tracks with friends of his, in an unprofessional studio? To go from the Hit Factory to a bathroom in a basement is indeed a decline, in superficial terms, for a big superstar like MJ, but that was the reality in 2007.
I thought I answer a similar question before. You make it sound like Michael declined from a mega star to a struggling artist. I do not deny Michael was not as popular as he once was in his final years. But, he was still a superstar throughout his life by all definitions.
In 2007, he worked with Akon and will.i.am -two of the hottest music commodities in the industry. Why would will.i.am work with Michael if Michael was not somone he regards highly? Will.i.am, member of Black Eye Peas, the hottest producer at the moment worked on and off with Michael. He even traveled to Ireland to work with Michael Jackson.
In 2009, Michael Jackson sold out a series of 50 concerts in one single city in record time.
Why do I need to be in denial? I have nothing to deny. Michael was a superstar. He thought highly about himself till his last day. He always knew how much he was worth.
no not because he said so but because shower and closet is commonly used as a vocal booth in a home recording setting. he's not saying something that's far fetched , he's not saying something that's like "discovering america". He's mentioning a common practice.
again we can argue whether it would affect the voice or cause what we hear or not. that's different.
sometimes I watch Eddie Murphy song / video and have hard time imagining Michael doing that too. ( do you know that it's one of the few videos that has been retired - that the music channels refuse to play it because it's so bad and the whole chorus is basically "Whatzup with you?" repeated several times and has the wonderful ! line of "We can just, Jackie Chan it up.").
it all shows me that Michael was a humble person returning favor for a friend (E.Murphy for appearing in RTT) no matter how crappy the end work might be.
I agree the video of Whatzupwitu is as cheesy as it can get. But, the song is not billed as a Michael Jackson song featuring Eddie Murphy. Does anyone cast any doubt on Michael's singing ability after viewing the cheesy video? Actually, Michael's background vocal saved the song.
Furthermore, it's not like Michael did six crappy videos in a row for his friends. It's not a pattern of exceptions all thrown together.
