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Michael Jackson feat. 50 cent - MONSTER - its the real deal says 50 -READ!

They are trying to do the same promo that they did for Invincible?

Because put some s.h.i.t fakes songs like BN and Monster to promote this album is great!

Everybody is against these cascios fakes songs, and now more and more people don't want to buy this " fake " album.

Well done the Estate and $ONY.


And yes, Mike had the flu during 3 months when he stayed at the Cascios's house.....
 
19SunsetDriver74 said:
You can hear it at one point you hear some noise from snot in his throat. Its a noise what the most of us mabye know.
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Now I believe you're making things up, sorry. No one hears that but you...And he had a flu for three months? Who suffers influenza for three straight months in this modern day and age?
 
Diplomate said:
They are trying to do the same promo that they did for Invincible?

Because put some s.h.i.t fakes songs like BN and Monster to promote this album is great!

Everybody is against these cascios fakes songs, and now more and more people don't want to buy this " fake " album.

Well done the Estate and $ONY.


And yes, Mike had the flu during 3 months when he stayed at the Cascios's house.....
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Oh you was there and observ MJ i forgot. How you want to know when it was recorded?
 
AnnieRUOkay89 said:
Whoa, for one, I never said Breaking News was real, the only song I said that I know is real is KYHU. And two, I can go through it all and stick to my opinion because I know what I hear, and I'm also aware that none of what any of you, or me for that matter, has been proven as a fact as of yet. Three, I didn't say that you believing MJ is on parts of the song is close minded, I said it's close minded to believe that there isn't a possibility at all that they mixed real songs, with partially completed ones to sell it.
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Well you bolded the part where I said MJ was on part of the songs when you quoted me.

I wasnt saying you think Breaking News is real, I was talking in general about people who think Monster is fake, but still think Breaking News and Keep Your Head Up are real.
 
AnnieRUOkay89 said:
Now I believe you're making things up, sorry. No one hears that but you...
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This has been mentioned more than once, and I remember hearing it the first or second time I listened to the song, it's pretty loud actually. It's not so much a throat thing though, but a nose thing, I guess, a bit like a "snort", it's in the second verse, in the line "and you can't get it again" (hope I remember the lyrics correctly), at the beginning of "can't". This can happen if you have a cold, but also without a cold, not just when you are singing, but speaking as well. So it doesn't mean he had a cold, but it's possible. Oh, and you can hear it in the song and it's impossible to miss in the a capella version.

This little mistake is also a hint that the vocals are not fake, I said this before somewhere, you don't leave things like that in a finished song, not even in cheap productions, and it doesn't even take 10 seconds to record the line again to fix this. With a fake singer, they would have fixed it, even if he had to sing it a million times having all the time in the world, but with MJ they couldn't, he wasn't there anymore.
 
If BN was the wrong mix on MJ website when it first aired? How did that happen? How was that even allowed? lol That to me sound like B.S! They had plenty of time to get everything together, to premier this, to make it right and oops they mess up?! Hmmm?!

Yea, I'll wait for the feed back from some fans when the album drops Dec 14 to see if that was the case and by miracle all the songs sound just like MJ including the leaked ones! :/

Edit: I just heard the newly leaked snippet of Monster from someone on facebook....:O Very disappointing, I had high hopes for this one! :( The voice sounds as unconvincing as BN same person singing both! *SIGH* Like I said better be different on the CD but, I doubt it!
 
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Milka said:
This has been mentioned more than once, and I remember hearing it the first or second time I listened to the song, it's pretty loud actually. It's not so much a throat thing though, but a nose thing, I guess, a bit like a "snort", it's in the second verse, in the line "and you can't get it again" (hope I remember the lyrics correctly), at the beginning of "can't". This can happen if you have a cold, but also without a cold, not just when you are singing, but speaking as well. So it doesn't mean he had a cold, but it's possible. Oh, and you can hear it in the song and it's impossible to miss in the a capella version.

This little mistake is also a hint that the vocals are not fake, I said this before somewhere, you don't leave things like that in a finished song, not even in cheap productions, and it doesn't even take 10 seconds to record the line again to fix this. With a fake singer, they would have fixed it, even if he had to sing it a million times having all the time in the world, but with MJ they couldn't, he wasn't there anymore.
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:clapping: Thank you.
 
smooth_criminal05 said:
All we can do right now is: wait for the Oprah episode and see if any new info is revealed. And after that let's buy the album and see if it sounds any different. Apparently the album versions are not the same as the leaks.
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Agreed. I also believe the album versions will be slightly different. Maybe Sony could be protecting the ACTUAL
songs from being leaked/illegally downloaded... We shall have to wait and see.
 
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19SunsetDriver74 said:
:clapping: Thank you.
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You are welcome. I think it's funny, with all due respect, how some people claim to have the bestest ears and can totally tell that it's MJ or not MJ, but some of those people didn't even notice the famous "snort" yet. I can't say that I feel like I can trust their ears ...
 
The only snort that can be heard is in BN. And that's no "famous snort", in fact the reaction from most members on this board was "WTF was that?"
 
AnnieRUOkay89 said:
The only snort that can be heard is in BN. And that's no "famous snort", in fact the reaction from most members on this board was "WTF was that?"
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That part of the conversation WAS about Breaking News.

Calling it "the famous snort" was me being sarcastic/joking, not only because it has been discussed several times but also because (if you are one of the people who think it's MJ on BN) it's a Michael Jackson snort! So it's probably the most famous "snort" ever in music history.
 
smooth_criminal05 said:
All we can do right now is: wait for the Oprah episode and see if any new info is revealed. And after that let's buy the album and see if it sounds any different. Apparently the album versions are not the same as the leaks.
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Oprah started to air teasers from the interview today and she's asking about the controversy about the vocals. I guess we'll see if any new information comes to light.
 
I'll see what they have to say, however I doubt i'll believe a word of it.

Unless they were to say the vocals are fake and they just did it for a laugh :)
 
Cascios 's songs ?

BIG LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

And they were friends of Mike ? A second family?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
 
Why does MJ sound the way he does on ALL the Cascio songs? He doesnt sound like that on Hold My Hand which was recorded around maybe a year or so after. He did not sound like that when he sang live in This Is It. All of a sudden he sounds like a completely different guy? Its just weird to me.

I just want proof that it is Michael!! Because right now we have none.
 
L.T.D said:
I'll see what they have to say, however I doubt i'll believe a word of it.
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that's not really having an open mind, is it? It looks like you have already made your mind.
 
Diplomate said:
Cascios 's songs ?

BIG LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!

And they were friends of Mike ? A second family?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
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It's been pretty well established that the Cascio's are great family friends to Michael... he lived with them, and had a close relationship with them... his children even spent their first holidays after Michael's death with the Cascios. They have never sold a story about him or taken advantage of him.
 
ivy said:
that's not really having an open mind, is it? It looks like you have already made your mind.
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The whole thing is a full-blown conspiracy theory, you can't put a hole in those, people will just refill them with some other "evidence". I think, sadly, it will stay with "us" for a very very long time.
 
ivy said:
that's not really having an open mind, is it? It looks like you have already made your mind.
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Well, no one apparently believes forensic analysts, a number of former colleagues and collaborators of Michael's, etc. Why should they believe anything else that people said? I'm sure even if there is video evidence of Michael singing these songs, they will STILL not accept it.
 
i dont know what the hell to believe anymore. i dont believe teddy riley, i dont believe frank dileo, i dont believe the voice experts, i dont believe 50 cent, i dont believe sony. I dont know who i DO believe..
 
michaeljojacksonfan said:
i dont know what the hell to believe anymore. i dont believe teddy riley, i dont believe frank dileo, i dont believe the voice experts, i dont believe 50 cent, i dont believe sony. I dont know who i DO believe..
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Then my friend, you are hopeless lol. Just take a break from this forum like Birchey did. You seriously need it.
 
h0opman31 said:
Then my friend, you are hopeless lol. Just take a break from this forum like Birchey did. You seriously need it.
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That is seriously what im thinking of doing. Maybe i need a break of MJ period. But i know that just won't happen, i cannot live without my dose of mj!!
 
ivy said:
that's not really having an open mind, is it? It looks like you have already made your mind.
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I have made up my mind yes. I'm open to them trying to change it though. I just doubt they will, as I know they would have to offer solid proof that its MJ on those songs to change my mind. I dont see them doing that.
 
cppounders said:
Well, no one apparently believes forensic analysts, a number of former colleagues and collaborators of Michael's, etc. Why should they believe anything else that people said? I'm sure even if there is video evidence of Michael singing these songs, they will STILL not accept it.
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We have yet to see the results of said tests, we don't even know who these forensic experts are. Again, none of the names mentioned, have come out and said anything themselves. Everything is "Sony said..."
 
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