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Darlingdear, cyberjackson and everyone else who is having a hard time, hugs to you all. :heart:

My gosh, I heard about those fans, but I didn't know how old they were, or what happened. That's heartbreaking. :cry:

Sending my love to everyone. I love you guys. :hug:
 
Tanya (10 yrs old) and Renya (18) were sisters and passed in a car accident April 11th. God. I hope they're up there with Michael now :angel: :angel: http://twitter.com/AmazingLove4

Wishing them peace and love. We lost a friend in a bad car accident and some random jerk held his cell phone up and filmed the car about 4 seconds later, the moments she died in the car and we ran across that footage of the car up in smoke etc.

Gosh, tonight is just rough.
 
darlingdear - Oh, thanks for letting us know what's up :hug:

I'm about halfway through with it. No, it's not funny or making fun of dying. I don't think the tone of the book accurately portrayed in the info on Amazon .. .yeah, it makes it look like it's all something goofy. The author uses a bit of humor here or there to make a point, but it's serious. I'm not so sure what all to think of it yet myself :scratch:

I have that up on my list, cool!

Whoa :cry: Those lyrics... :boohoo: What a pretty song, though, and very classical. Sad, but beautiful. Nice to hear your voice too, even though you said it's just a rough version... I know how that goes. (I have to tell you I woke up the other morning with the one piano piece .."cramps in my right hand".. stuck in my head.) Again, really like your stuff. This totally made me cry, though. A lot of sadness tonight in the thread... :(

Thank you.
The lyrics are kind of sad, it's what happened when I drove by his house in Holmby Hills, that's exactly what I was feeling standing in front of his house. Standing there was thousand times worse than Forest Lawn actually.
I had a hard dialing the classic stuff back and not go opera on the poor little melody. I originally had a different arrangement in my head, twice as fast, a nasty mean bass (think "Threatened" in TII) etc, but I thought I'll go sad on the acoustic version.
 
Wishing them peace and love. We lost a friend in a bad car accident and some random jerk held his cell phone up and filmed the car about 4 seconds later, the moments she died in the car and we ran across that footage of the car up in smoke etc. Gosh, tonight is just rough.
You mean like on youtube or something?! Oh geez :no: A good friend lost her brother like that in summer 2008 and my grandparents were both killed in one in summer 1973 :( I had a story I wanted to tell earlier today about what we might be doing while we're sleeping, but it involves a car accident, so it feels kinda weird to share it now... :mello:

Thank you. The lyrics are kind of sad, it's what happened when I drove by his house in Holmby Hills, that's exactly what I was feeling standing in front of his house. Standing there was thousand times worse than Forest Lawn actually.
I had a hard dialing the classic stuff back and not go opera on the poor little melody. I originally had a different arrangement in my head, twice as fast, a nasty mean bass (think "Threatened" in TII) etc, but I thought I'll go sad on the acoustic version.
Oh God, Carolwood. Someday I suppose I will go to L.A. again and... omg. Don't know how to handle stuff like that. Thanks for the backstory on that. As for the mean bass, I haven't heard it like that so can't judge, but the way it went with the sad acoustic is beautiful.
 
Oh, Modulation Alert, forgot to say I loved your song you posted. Sorry, I completely forgot to mention it earlier. :heart:

I can't stop thinking about *Billie Jean* and wondering if she's alright. :sigh: :(
 
OMG, you guys. Hubby went to bed and I'm here in the living room listening to Escape (you know, aka Xscape) and thinking about the house on Carolwood (because of Modulation Alert's song :cry:) and then about how my old street has probably had many people die here (Europe, ya know -- my town was here in the 1400's) and I was looking out the back door and I turned back around and about had a heartattack, lol. I swear to God someone was standing in the middle of my living room! I saw out of the corner of my eye as I turned an adult-sized figure, edge of a shirt or jacket on one side, but it's like they weren't fully formed, so I saw like preformed shadow in a way? Hard to explain. Once my eyes would've been on them completely they just weren't there. I didn't feel threatened at all, just startled as all hell :lol: Think of Michael when he turns around at the end of Ghosts with the :bugeyed *gasp!*... like that, but at least doubled, with a clearly audible "Agghgh!" :hysterical: Crap. I keep blowing the confidence of the other side when I ask them to appear to me, huh? :lol: Well, I don't know who it was (really, no idea), but there are very specific people I can count on one hand who are allowed around here and all others must gtfo, baby. And I MEAN that. So... I'm alright, just like :unsure: now, lol...
 
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Omg you guys...lots of sadness going on today in this thread and just in general. I want to reply to the last 3 pages but just feel like crying right now...:boohoo: especially after hearing your song Mod. Alert...woah. Those lyrics were intense. Beautiful but deep sadness. My God I miss Michael so much. I think I'm really feeling the sadness going on in the hearts of many fans right now too. Just sensing all that energy...I feel it in my heart. :weeping: on top of that I'm extra touched today just seeing how we lean on and care for each other. Sorry guys...I'm a sap tonight. Will reply to everyone more later...just wanted to say hi for now. .... love to everyone.
 
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OMG, you guys. Hubby went to bed and I'm here in the living room listening to Escape (you know, aka Xscape) and thinking about the house on Carolwood (because of Modulation Alert's song :cry:) and then about how my old street has probably had many people die here (Europe, ya know -- my town was here in the 1400's) and I was looking out the back door and I turned back around and about had a heartattack, lol. I swear to God someone was standing in the middle of my living room! I saw out of the corner of my eye as I turned an adult-sized figure, edge of a shirt or jacket on one side, but it's like they weren't fully formed, so I saw like preformed shadow in a way? Hard to explain. Once my eyes would've been on them completely they just weren't there. I didn't feel threatened at all, just startled as all hell :lol: Think of Michael when he turns around at the end of Ghosts with the :bugeyed *gasp!*... like that, but at least doubled, with a clearly audible "Agghgh!" :hysterical: Crap. I keep blowing the confidence of the other side when I ask them to appear to me, huh? :lol: Well, I don't know who it was (really, no idea), but there are very specific people I can count on one hand who are allowed around here and all others must gtfo, baby. And I MEAN that. So... I'm alright, just like :unsure: now, lol...

Forgive my laugh... You sound like me a few months back. :hysterical::D Very cool! Do you understand some of those lyrics now..."why so scared?" "Leave the handle on the door girl". :bugeyed "Cause I nearly ripped off the fridge handle. :hysterical: What do you suppose those sparks in the dark are?? Hehe.
My song is really a combo of going to Carolwood and some of the stuff that has happened ever since. Most people would declare me nuts, I don't care. I rarely have shared that kind of stuff but yeah, that's not even the end of it all. There are SO many things possible that most people wouldn't even dream about.

Maybe someone thought you needed a visit, hm?? Hehe. I know he shows up to certain music. One time it was discussion on TV. (Charlie Rose and something on consciousness)
 
Omg you guys...lots of sadness going on today in this thread and just in general. I want to reply to the last 3 pages but just feel like crying right now...:boohoo: especially after hearing your song Mod. Alert...woah. Those lyrics were intense. Beautiful but deep sadness. My God I miss Michael so much. I think I'm really feeling the sadness going on in the hearts of many fans right now too. Just sensing all that energy...I feel it in my heart. :weeping: on top of that I'm extra touched today just seeing how we lean on and care for each other. Sorry guys...I'm a sap tonight. Will reply to everyone more later...just wanted to say hi for now. .... love to everyone.

Thank you. His passing has uprooted me like no other death ever has. Like a tree that's been uprooted. It's not "normal", there's more to all of this. Everything I write these days is really from deep down. Sometimes I'm thinking I'll never return to "normal", but then again, what is "normal", right?
 
I afraid to ask you but did you see Michael's ghost for real? :unsure:

Yes, and so have other people.
When he passed I spent the night listening to "Ghosts" all night long. The 26th is my birthday and people from Europe started calling me to say Happy Birthday, while here in the US it was still the 25th. That was absolutely surreal.
I usually let him know with a little wave when I know he's around. He suggested "waving". He is indeed around many people. Those, that he can relate to. And I can tell just from this thread alone that he has found himself many people that he can relate to and those that relate to him. There are so many boards and by now there are SO many people that have these experiences- he IS a different kind of spiritual figure, that's not a joke...

He actually started quite the spiritual revolution, I'd like to say.:punk:

Between the "Hoax" (man, sometimes I wanna march in there and say, people, he is dead...) and the "Psychics" thread innocent bystanders must think MJ fans have more than a couple screws loose. Funny thing is the Hoaxers would declare us nuts, while the Psychics would say to the hoaxers, listen...there's no hoax.
 
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Forgive my laugh... You sound like me a few months back. :hysterical::D Very cool! Do you understand some of those lyrics now..."why so scared?" "Leave the handle on the door girl". :bugeyed "Cause I nearly ripped off the fridge handle. :hysterical: What do you suppose those sparks in the dark are?? Hehe.
My song is really a combo of going to Carolwood and some of the stuff that has happened ever since. Most people would declare me nuts, I don't care. I rarely have shared that kind of stuff but yeah, that's not even the end of it all. There are SO many things possible that most people wouldn't even dream about.

Maybe someone thought you needed a visit, hm?? Hehe. I know he shows up to certain music. One time it was discussion on TV. (Charlie Rose and something on consciousness)
Wow, so that "leave the handle" lyric makes more sense now ;) And considering I'd listened to your song twice five minutes before and I was thinking about Carolwood, hmm, would make sense I guess. I wasn't sad at that moment, just kind of thinking about what I would do if I had millions of dollars and that house was up for sale :)mello:)... and then that led to thinking how we put so much emotion into a place that someone died, when in reality people have died all over the place. That's why I was thinking of my old, old street and how they probably dragged plague victims down it many years ago. You know... I was just thinking of random stuff while halfway singing alone with the music. And by that point Escape was half over and I turned around and.... :bugeyed (OMG, if that was you, Michael... :doh: Sorry! Oh please come back! ;))

WOW! This is super crazy stuff. I have never ever seen ghost in my life. I wish I could see one with positive energy.
My friend saw her dead realtive in a few days after he passed . He was sitting in the back of her car talking to her. She almoust got a heartattack too.
How long did you see it? It was just a moment or longer than that?
Oh, was that a ghost? Was that my eyes wigging out? That is the question. I only saw this for a maybe two seconds and nothing clear enough to know who it was. It was like... a pulsing shadow in the form of a person, almost like someone was 'forming' before my eyes but vanished when I turned to get a complete look? And with a definite feeling like someone was there. Do you ever see "people" (?) out of the corner of your eye and then there's "no one" there? Like that, however much more THERE, lol. I've seen things like this before, but this time... in the middle of the room, just a few feet away, ... whaaa! :doh: LOL :rolleyes2: (Again... Michael, if that was you... oh please come back ;))

Thank you. His passing has uprooted me like no other death ever has. Like a tree that's been uprooted. It's not "normal", there's more to all of this. Everything I write these days is really from deep down. Sometimes I'm thinking I'll never return to "normal", but then again, what is "normal", right?
Boy do I understand that. For me too. So deep that I could never hope to explain. My heart, my soul... what else is there? Michael is an indelible part of the very core of my being. I can't explain. I love him SO much and for so long, through so much, forever, no matter what and in a very personal way, in a way that as I said... reaches down to the very core of my being. Like an uprooted tree, yes.... :(

Yes, and so have other people.
When he passed I spent the night listening to "Ghosts" all night long. The 26th is my birthday and people from Europe started calling me to say Happy Birthday, while here in the US it was still the 25th. That was absolutely surreal.
I usually let him know with a little wave when I know he's around. He suggested "waving". He is indeed around many people. Those, that he can relate to. And I can tell just from this thread alone that he has found himself many people that he can relate to and those that relate to him. There are so many boards and by now there are SO many people that have these experiences- he IS a different kind of spiritual figure, that's not a joke...
He actually started quite the spiritual revolution, I'd like to say.:punk:
To continue Asedora's question, how much SEEN do you mean? I mean like this... there's that moment where you think (even for real) you see someone out of the corner of your eye and you turn and see nothing. Or the little glimpses you get that let you know someone is there, like a sparkle. But do you mean SEE like you'd see ME if I was physically in your house right in front of you? Someone in another thread posted that she saw Michael LIKE THAT, like he was a physical person, standing right in front of her as real as can be for several seconds and then he vanished. That blew my mind. I mean, my mother has seen spirits and ghosts just like that. 100% solid for real. I guess I did when I was little, but I don't remember... I just know the stories. I saw a hand wave in the darkness near my bedroom door the night before my grandfather died in August ... one time I saw a woman in a white dress out of the corner of my eye in our haunted church, I saw that creepy weird black creature thing I wrote about a while back in my old workplace ... but I've never looked directly at a spirit/ghost/apparition and saw that it was them and that it couldn't be my imagination. And I want that, you know. I truly do. I'm not scared (just startled sometimes :hysterical:) and I believe it's possible... but nichts. :scratch:

Between the "Hoax" (man, sometimes I wanna march in there and say, people, he is dead...) and the "Psychics" thread innocent bystanders must think MJ fans have more than a couple screws loose. Funny thing is the Hoaxers would declare us nuts, while the Psychics would say to the hoaxers, listen...there's no hoax.
Oh tell me about it. Waaaayyyy too many people have had visits from Michael who's clearly not in the physical world like us anymore. It sucks to know, but it's the truth. And yes, they'd think we're nuts, but we've been visited and have some direct personal experience. They watch videos about trashcan pictures taken at different angles and use that as proof. Ok anyway... nevermind that topic ... :girl_whistle:
 
Wow, so that "leave the handle" lyric makes more sense now ;) And considering I'd listened to your song twice five minutes before and I was thinking about Carolwood, hmm, would make sense I guess. I wasn't sad at that moment, just kind of thinking about what I would do if I had millions of dollars and that house was up for sale :)mello:)... and then that led to thinking how we put so much emotion into a place that someone died, when in reality people have died all over the place. That's why I was thinking of my old, old street and how they probably dragged plague victims down it many years ago. You know... I was just thinking of random stuff while halfway singing alone with the music. And by that point Escape was half over and I turned around and.... :bugeyed (OMG, if that was you, Michael... :doh: Sorry! Oh please come back! ;))

Yeah, I think from his perspective he simply knows what's going on.
I myself don't put much importance into "places" myself because I really think that certain entities, spirits are more jumping on those they can have (or force) a connection to/with. Meaning a human, alive being. To me it's not so much a certain place or house, more that certain spirits obviously will be eager to to connect with you in certain situations.
Although I do think there are certain preferences. Something silly like a bar for MJ. Things he could never do while alive. Just sitting in a bar, watching the taps.

And driving by North Carolwood twice was just evoking a reaction in me- which maybe in turn let the former inhabitant know, hey there, since you're here and feeling that way anyway...

Oh, was that a ghost? Was that my eyes wigging out? That is the question. I only saw this for a maybe two seconds and nothing clear enough to know who it was. It was like... a pulsing shadow in the form of a person, almost like someone was 'forming' before my eyes but vanished when I turned to get a complete look? And with a definite feeling like someone was there. Do you ever see "people" (?) out of the corner of your eye and then there's "no one" there? Like that, however much more THERE, lol. I've seen things like this before, but this time... in the middle of the room, just a few feet away, ... whaaa! :doh: LOL :rolleyes2: (Again... Michael, if that was you... oh please come back ;))

Yes, of course, that whole "out of the corner of my eye" thing used to happen all the time.
A generous teacher explained it (and I thought long and hard about and it simply made sense to me) using the analogy of the conscious and subconscious mind.
Your subconscious mind will only present to you what you supposedly "can handle". I was advised to simply accept in that moment (whenever I sense someone out of the corner) to simply tell myself that
a) it's okay and that
b) someone's just trying to connect. Simply reprogram yourself by telling yourself and your subconscious, it's happening, it's okay.

Next time just simply and calmly tell yourself, yeah, I saw, it happened. Don't look for "explanations" to talk yourself out of it. It happened.

You know that Michael often talked about the power of the subconscious mind?

Geraldo Rivera+MJ in 2005 said:
GR: Do you ever look back and contemplate, oh my goodness, Thriller is the biggest selling musical performance ever, do you ever get your arms around that?

MJ: I try not to think about it too hard because I don’t want my subconscious mind to think I’ve done it all, you’re done now. That’s why I don’t put awards or trophies in my house. You won’t find a gold record anywhere in my house. Because it makes you feel you’ve accomplished. Look what I’ve done. But I always want to feel, no I haven’t done it yet.

Boy do I understand that. For me too. So deep that I could never hope to explain. My heart, my soul... what else is there? Michael is an indelible part of the very core of my being. I can't explain. I love him SO much and for so long, through so much, forever, no matter what and in a very personal way, in a way that as I said... reaches down to the very core of my being. Like an uprooted tree, yes.... :(

It is SO hard to explain but yet we all know what we mean and feel. We're literally heeding a certain call. The nuts who "defended a suspected child mo**ster. (I can't even write that word in connection with Michael)etc.
I know we're all eventually heading toward the same place (in varying degrees) but boy, the pain of him leaving SO prematurely is hard to explain. It will simply seem exaggerated and totally out of proportion to most people, even some fans. I don't even like the word "fan". It simply is a feeling of familiarity and understanding, really just understanding and relating to some of the stuff he went through. And it's certainly not the "I've seen your picture on TV and therefore think I know you" deal either.

To continue Asedora's question, how much SEEN do you mean? I mean like this... there's that moment where you think (even for real) you see someone out of the corner of your eye and you turn and see nothing. Or the little glimpses you get that let you know someone is there, like a sparkle. But do you mean SEE like you'd see ME if I was physically in your house right in front of you? Someone in another thread posted that she saw Michael LIKE THAT, like he was a physical person, standing right in front of her as real as can be for several seconds and then he vanished. That blew my mind. I mean, my mother has seen spirits and ghosts just like that. 100% solid for real. I guess I did when I was little, but I don't remember... I just know the stories. I saw a hand wave in the darkness near my bedroom door the night before my grandfather died in August ... one time I saw a woman in a white dress out of the corner of my eye in our haunted church, I saw that creepy weird black creature thing I wrote about a while back in my old workplace ... but I've never looked directly at a spirit/ghost/apparition and saw that it was them and that it couldn't be my imagination. And I want that, you know. I truly do. I'm not scared (just startled sometimes :hysterical:) and I believe it's possible... but nichts. :scratch:

Hm, differs, really. I don't think I'm meant to be a great "seer". I have HUGE issues shutting my mind off, I can literally think down 5000 tracks at once, at the same time I can write a poem and think about music, translating something and dinner. Problem is that that is exactly what DROWNS out the other side. Our thinking must seem so damn loud to them. :D
So, when I say "and I'll lose you with my thought" it's the thinking. Looking for explanations, looking harder.
For example when I see my grandmother it started with tiny almost black and white pictures, sometimes sepia style- in the end that doesn't really matter. My subconscious just lets me see what I can handle- the person next door might see something completely different.
Michael used to be a teeny tiny image on a certain wall, sometimes dancing (not a routine I've ever seen before), then he became bigger, then in color and now it's more knowing that he is around, although every once in a while I see him walk around. Usually when I do grieve, shed a tear. He's been around when I was on the couch in the middle of the night, crying my eyeballs out listening to some Danny Elfman/Tim Burton soundtrack. It was as if he was putting a blanket on me or something. Sometimes I see a shadow in the car on the passenger seat. I just say hi and tell him something, or sing a song.
I rarely see those that I do see (and again it's more than just Michael although I am certainly more motivated to see him) as lifestyle image, I just don't. Yet it's still very "real". We all can have very different experiences.
Some I just feel around, others you could hear, most I wouldn't want to see.
Sometimes going to sleep becomes difficult when they all start jumping across the bedroom as soon as there is less light, the all of a sudden start marching up and down in front of me. Sometimes Michael will say something RIGHT before I fall asleep, or I have heard beautiful music out of nowhere. (that's mean because they know I would want to catch it...)
One time I stood in bed because I had the distinct image of Pavarotti (I though WTF??? Pavarotti?? :bugeyed) standing in front of me.
To me they seem more like holographic pale images- others obviously have other impressions and it really doesn't matter- what matters is your perception.

All I'm trying to say, don't worry what other people see. You have your perception.

I do have to say Michael NEVER looks the same twice with me. I think he likes playing and loves that he can just look any way he wants to- much easier to do than in life. And I think that's his thing.


Oh tell me about it. Waaaayyyy too many people have had visits from Michael who's clearly not in the physical world like us anymore. It sucks to know, but it's the truth. And yes, they'd think we're nuts, but we've been visited and have some direct personal experience. They watch videos about trashcan pictures taken at different angles and use that as proof. Ok anyway... nevermind that topic ... :girl_whistle:
Yeah, before I get more "reputation points"...:cheeky:, all I wanted to say is how funny it is that both hoaxer and psychic(s) (mediums) consider each totally nuts and off their rocker. That is hysterical. Both sides think of the other one as totally nutty. That's funny.
 
Well I have a feeling sometimes that somebody watches me. It is like you cannot miss it. When I turn my head I do not see anybody. Probably not too many ppl are able to see ghosts? I cannot see him but I can hear him... .

So than you know he's around...how cool is that. And you can even hear him!

Yeah, spiritual revolution… . Makes sense. You said he is a different kind of spiritual figure. What kind do you think? His msg always was Love, nothing else. Was he like Jesus, Krishna, Archangel Michael or just simply Michael Jackson himself?

I don't think his name matters much to him. I don't think of him as religious figure at all. I just know that he does have something very different about him that very different from others. He has the ability and the motivation to relate to so many of us. He's in contact with countless people, judging by so many personal accounts. That alone is impressive. I find him a very loving presence who simply wants you to be happy- they way he just couldn't be happy. He always said he wished he knew what it was like to simply be yourself, live and walk down the street to your grocery store.
Love and live, just be who you are, I think that's a good message.

And now, for the full shocker I think the human incarnated experience is a choice as well. You don't have to go to earth....I'm quite convinced some of us where elsewhere before.

Edited: OK, good night everybody (for some good morning). I hope I will be able to get some sleep tonight.

Hope you'll have a (painfree) night! :yes:
 
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Yes, and so have other people.
When he passed I spent the night listening to "Ghosts" all night long. The 26th is my birthday and people from Europe started calling me to say Happy Birthday, while here in the US it was still the 25th. That was absolutely surreal.
I usually let him know with a little wave when I know he's around. He suggested "waving". He is indeed around many people. Those, that he can relate to. And I can tell just from this thread alone that he has found himself many people that he can relate to and those that relate to him. There are so many boards and by now there are SO many people that have these experiences- he IS a different kind of spiritual figure, that's not a joke...

He actually started quite the spiritual revolution, I'd like to say.:punk:

Between the "Hoax" (man, sometimes I wanna march in there and say, people, he is dead...) and the "Psychics" thread innocent bystanders must think MJ fans have more than a couple screws loose. Funny thing is the Hoaxers would declare us nuts, while the Psychics would say to the hoaxers, listen...there's no hoax.

Wow, I know I've always felt like I could really relate to Michael, not necessarily talent-wise, but personality-wise, and other things (let's just say the things I learned about him surprised me)...I so wish I could have met him in person and become his friend, as impossible as it may have been. I see him as a friend now, regardless.

And I know what you mean about the hoaxers. I had the same thought about that.
 
I do have to say Michael NEVER looks the same twice with me. I think he likes playing and loves that he can just look any way he wants to- much easier to do than in life. And I think that's his thing.
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Yep thats michael - the joker! :giggle:
 
I just wanna say, thank you guys, for your support & love. :huggy: :heart: Not just with my issue (Thank you so much for your support :huggy:, very appreciated), but the way in which this thread is just so supportive, you guys are such wonderful people :)

mjbunny - whoa, that's strange about seeing that person in your living room! I wonder if it was MJ. That would be cool lol.

amy - :huggy: I feel this sadness too. Ever since I started meditating last year, it seems like I am more..attuned to the emotions of people near and far away, if that makes sense..?

Mod Alert - Sorry I missed your song earlier. I just listened to it now; wonderful. You are all so talented!

To everyone else - :huggy: to you all, lots of L.O.V.E :heart:

I woke up really early this morning (5:31am to be precise ;)) and I heard this really..weird noise. Needless to say I freaked myself out cos it woke me up. I didn't ask my mother if she heard it lol, cos whenever I say maybe it was this, she'll just :rolleyes2: ..:lol:
I think the noise was perfectly explainable though, but it was just that intial freak out. It was like the other night, I heard a BANG and I remembered what we said on here about OBE and there being a loud bang before..:lol: Silly me.
I woke up feeling really weird anyway today. Do you ever get those days where you just have to be with yourself; like distant, reflective, pensive? I feel nostalgic today (if you can even feel that? lol).
 
Hey guys. The thread has been moving fast since I went to bed.

It's so sad about those fans. So young :cry: I will keep them and their families in my prayers.

ModulationAlert Beautiful song. Really beautiful. It has so much depth. I listened to it without reading the lyrics the first time and I could feel what you were singing about without the words.

I had more to reply to but I had so much to read that I can't think of them all now.

I had some dreams over the last few nights about helping people. In one I had somehow accumulated 1 Billion dollars and I was planning on how I could use it to help people then I woke up. I didn't care that I woke up broke cos I don't care about money at all but I was so disappointed that I couldn't do anything with it. I was so happy in the dream because I knew that so much money could help a lot of people.

Last night I had been entered in some sort of competition. Like a Miss Ireland sort of thing :lmao:. I was sitting in the crowd watching the contestants. One of the girls brought a little boy in facepaint and a costume out with her and they wanted to "thank Amanda" for helping this child. They pointed in my direction and I thought this Amanda must be behind me somewhere but they came down from the stage and the boy came over and hugged me. The girl was someone I used to go to school with. I wasn't friends with her or anything, she was just in my year. I don't know who the boy was or what I had done in the dream but I'm wondering if I have helped someone without knowing it or if this is a sign that there's someone who could use my help. The random "thanks" message I got the other night too.... I signed up to volunteer for a big sister club a while back but they didn't need anyone. I should go back to them again and see if they need anyone now.


On a totally different note (sorry, this will be a long story) my boyfriend died three times when he was 15. He was grieving and used alcohol to get away from it. When he was in the ambulance he was reaching out to hold his mother's friend's hand. She had died a few weeks before. When the doctor was talking to his mother later he told her that my bf was calling the woman's name. We all believe that she kept him alive that day. The doctor said it was a miracle he survived it, nevermind not having brain damage or some other long term damage.

He has seen a lot of ghosts and felt presences over the years and I think he has the potential to to really "tune in" but I don't know if it's something he wants to do.

He told me the other night that there is something following him. He has been feeling it for a while but he didn't tell anyone. He doesn't think it's evil but he thinks that something bad is going to happen to him. Since the time he died he has felt like his life is going to be cut short and that he's not supposed to be here. I don't believe that. I think if something or someone made sure he stayed alive, not only is he supposed to be here but there is a really good reason for it.

I don't think that whatever is following him is evil. He doesn't feel that so if he can feel danger coming I'd say it is trying to protect him. What should I do? Should I do anything?

LOVE to everyone :heart::group::heart:
 
That's great Asedora! I'm glad the pain is gone. It makes sense that your grandparents' spiritual help would fix it. If it's from a past life normal drugs probably wouldn't help.

Hugs to everyone :group:
 
I swear to God someone was standing in the middle of my living room!
Whoaaa freaky!:bugeyed I love how those things always come when you least expect it and can still make you shock, lol.

I usually let him know with a little wave when I know he's around. He suggested "waving". He is indeed around many people. Those, that he can relate to. And I can tell just from this thread alone that he has found himself many people that he can relate to and those that relate to him. There are so many boards and by now there are SO many people that have these experiences- he IS a different kind of spiritual figure, that's not a joke...
He actually started quite the spiritual revolution, I'd like to say.:punk:

Between the "Hoax" (man, sometimes I wanna march in there and say, people, he is dead...) and the "Psychics" thread innocent bystanders must think MJ fans have more than a couple screws loose. Funny thing is the Hoaxers would declare us nuts, while the Psychics would say to the hoaxers, listen...there's no hoax.
Very true! I'd definitely say he knows who to go to and it's amazing that also not so spiritual people have told about experiences as well and started to look into that more...he seems so open and so interested in all of those who are willing to 'take part' and feel it. Don't think you would've seen that with any other 'passed celeb' or something, he's always been so interested in people and it's actually great he can now somehow get to know us better, deeper, in another level. I dunnow, kind of feels that way! And also the other way around ofcourse.

It's sad indeed that some people still won't believe he's really passed. At first I was trying to convince people on stuff based on my own experiences, but I started to let go of that, they have their reasons and who knows..maybe it's just their own 'surviving mechanism' to make them believe that. As long as they won't try to convince us, and it's peaceful, then I'm 'okay' with it. Their loss, you know.-_-

Next time just simply and calmly tell yourself, yeah, I saw, it happened. Don't look for "explanations" to talk yourself out of it. It happened.

I do have to say Michael NEVER looks the same twice with me. I think he likes playing and loves that he can just look any way he wants to- much easier to do than in life. And I think that's his thing.
Actually I'm always looking for explanations, I'm trying to cut that down and just 'believe' right away more, but I do that mostly because I can be quite modest by nature and think 'why would he come to me?' / 'why would I earn that?'. Though the past months I've learned so much about myself and about him, that the connections are just so there and that it seems more and more...logical, if that makes sense. It's feels like....this is how it should be, or so.:heart:

He never looks the same for me either, now that I think of it. And he morphs a lot, like I said before. But then I'm talking about things I see in meditations and so on, I've never really seen him popping up 'in real life' like some others have (way cool!). But as someone here said, it just depends on what you are able to receive, I guess I would think it's a much too big event to see him standing right there. Guess I'm not ready for that yet? Maybe in the future. I want to learn more on spiritual stuff first before really opening up to things like that as well, because there's still a 'scary part' for me in this all.

For now I'm mostly feeling him very strongly, feeling energy and so on...or seeing something happpening related to him at times when it's just much too coincidental to be coincidence. :lol: Enough to be amazed and enough to believe. Interesting actually, to think of how it applies the right way for you personally.

I don't know who the boy was or what I had done in the dream but I'm wondering if I have helped someone without knowing it or if this is a sign that there's someone who could use my help. The random "thanks" message I got the other night too.... I signed up to volunteer for a big sister club a while back but they didn't need anyone. I should go back to them again and see if they need anyone now.
Oh, that's funny! I was just thinking today that I might ask you or someone else in this thread if anyone would be able to help me, because I want to record some singing and have a guitar or piano on the background, because I don't like to just put the original instrumental behind it, but want to have something fitting for the way I sing it and so on! Already recorded 'You Got The Love' yesterday, so now I wanna try some stuff out. So musical gals out there reading this, lemme know if you'd like to help! ;)

But yeah, who knows if you might have helped people out w/o fully realizing and now getting a thanks....interesting!

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He told me the other night that there is something following him. He has been feeling it for a while but he didn't tell anyone. He doesn't think it's evil but he thinks that something bad is going to happen to him. Since the time he died he has felt like his life is going to be cut short and that he's not supposed to be here. I don't believe that. I think if something or someone made sure he stayed alive, not only is he supposed to be here but there is a really good reason for it.

I don't think that whatever is following him is evil. He doesn't feel that so if he can feel danger coming I'd say it is trying to protect him. What should I do? Should I do anything?
Hmmm that's weird...but do you mean with something following him, like a spirit? Or just 'thoughts' about that there might be something happening? But he doesn't feels like it's something bad specifically? I think you're right about that there is a reason why he survived things and that he stayed for like some unfinished business and so on, but don't really know what to do with that kind of thoughts or fear. Had something like that a while ago myself but that turned out to be nothing.....but I've also had things that did turn out, smaller things, so yeah....maybe someone else knows more on this?

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Well in the end I woke up this morning with no sign of headache. For a week I was taking a pill every morning. I do not know what to say but looks like my grandparents spirits were taking care of me last night.
Well, maybe my headache will come back I do not know but at least this morning I do not have it.
That's cool! Sure looks like someone helped you out! :giggle:


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Oh guys I had the craziest thing today at the psychic I went to with my mom. First of all, we got inside and the place was filled with things like Buddha's, spiritual books, tarot cards, all of that...felt like a kid in a candy store, lolol.:cheeky: Really wanna get an appointment for myself and then purely for like the 'psychic' parts and stuff. Too bad she only had time for that massage today. So when my mom had her feet refloxoly massage, I was given some books and magazines to read and after that we talked a bit and she just shared some experiences and how she has helped clients with her abilities. Won't go into the stuff about my mom, not really relevant. Then after that she did a 'foot reading', don't know how it's called, but basically she can make a character sketch through looking at feet. She had time to do mine too, and everything she said was just right on, everything! So amazing! :wild: But then the craziest thing.....she was saying that I had a little horizontal bump on my toenail, and she asked 'did something very emotionally stressful happened for you between 9 to 12 months ago?'. GODDAMN! I was like....OMG...she can see that? That was Michael's passing ofcourse. I was afraid to say that because my mom was with me and she doesn't really know my love for him, so I mentioned something else that actually happened like a bit more than a year ago.

After that she let us pick a dolphin card which had a text on it, and mine said: 'Everything that's happening to me is a mirror of my own limited thoughts.' :blink: I was like GODDAMN again, lol! This was such an eye opener, even though I know it very well myself. Everything I want to achieve is made by my own mind. Things aren't working out, because I'm playing safe, because I'm not doing my best 100% to really go and do it. I have to take that risk, I know I can. (Strange how 'better' I feel now, while it wasn't even an appointment for me!)

Maybe I just needed that little 'push', hmm. So note to self; change the thoughts and make it work girl!
 
Mundy- I just tried to reply to you, but internet cut out lol.
That is quite something that your boyf had happen to him :(
I agree with what you say on him thinking his life will get cut short. I can see how he thinks like that, but not sure why. To me, it seems he has a second chance, there's a reason he didn't die, you know?
About him feeling someone is following him..that's odd. What does he feel when 'they' are around? What emotions? I mean he said he doesn't feel it is evil..

Asedora - Oh I'm glad your headaches gone..hope it stays that way! :angel:
What a dream too. The colour blue must be symbolic? Like calming..soothing etc.

Mrs.Music - Wow! That's so wonderful! That's funny how she picked up on MJ's passing. It's a shame she didn't have time to do the psychic stuff. But what you got is so great! Thanks for sharing :flowers:
 
Hi everyone. Oh, so much to reply or comment to and I just don't have the ability to put it all into some sense at the moment. Glad your headache is gone, Asedora. Way cool about your grandparents giving you 'medicine' in the dream! I woke up this morning feeling a bit foggy and... bam.... effin' migraine. Wtf? :doh: And I don't get these very often! Haven't had one for probably close to a year, so I'm not on meds for them. I guess today was the "perfect" kind of day for my trigger... weird sleep schedule, springtime, bright, glary sunlight.... SLAM with the sledgehammer. It's some time later now it's fading and I'm wearing sunglasses and drinking tea (for the caffeine). Still in pain, though. Can't process complex thoughts, though, I don't think, ugh... :blink:

One thing... this morning I was dreaming again something about messages from people online. Each fan was represented on a screen/map and when you'd move the mouse pointer over their light dot a little square would open up with a picture and some words, like some kind of spiritual bio, lol. There were words about love and healing the world, pretty artwork, etc. Some folks from this thread were on it too. When the pointer moved over one of us (not sure who) there was a sentence that displayed about CONNECTION ... we're all one (including one with Michael) ... and at that second I suddenly half woke up out of the dream. I opened my eyes and was looking directly at the clock beside my bed. It was 11:22 and I thought... oh, how classic! Master numbers. It's like a YES/YES answer ... yes, we're all one. Connected! Of course! How cute that I'd be awakened to see this time on the clock. Obviously that's a message ;) Ok, gotta remember this later *remember* *remember* lol

.... oh Geez... headache getting worse again... probably going offlilne... :timer: ... sick of lying down ... and wish the sun would serioulsy go down already :lol: ... enough with the glare, man
 
Oh, that's funny! I was just thinking today that I might ask you or someone else in this thread if anyone would be able to help me, because I want to record some singing and have a guitar or piano on the background, because I don't like to just put the original instrumental behind it, but want to have something fitting for the way I sing it and so on! Already recorded 'You Got The Love' yesterday, so now I wanna try some stuff out. So musical gals out there reading this, lemme know if you'd like to help! ;)

I'd love to help you out :). If you need it soon I can record on my brother's laptop. I'm ordering my new laptop today. I couldn't find one within my budget so I'm adding a bit on and paying it over the next few weeks.


Hmmm that's weird...but do you mean with something following him, like a spirit? Or just 'thoughts' about that there might be something happening? But he doesn't feels like it's something bad specifically? I think you're right about that there is a reason why he survived things and that he stayed for like some unfinished business and so on, but don't really know what to do with that kind of thoughts or fear. Had something like that a while ago myself but that turned out to be nothing.....but I've also had things that did turn out, smaller things, so yeah....maybe someone else knows more on this?

Mundy- I just tried to reply to you, but internet cut out lol.
That is quite something that your boyf had happen to him :(
I agree with what you say on him thinking his life will get cut short. I can see how he thinks like that, but not sure why. To me, it seems he has a second chance, there's a reason he didn't die, you know?
About him feeling someone is following him..that's odd. What does he feel when 'they' are around? What emotions? I mean he said he doesn't feel it is evil..

At first I thought he was saying the spirit was making him feel like something was going to happen to him but when he talked about it a bit more, it seems the spirit and the feeling are seperate. He says he can feel it mostly when he is in his own house. He said he feels scared but it's not because it's evil, just because he knows they are there. It could be his granny or granddad. From what I can tell there are deep spiritual connections in the family. I have heard a lot of stories over the years. His granddad was very protective of him. He visited him the night he died. My bf said he just walked into the room like he was checking in on him then walked back out.

When the pointer moved over one of us (not sure who) there was a sentence that displayed about CONNECTION ... we're all one (including one with Michael) ... and at that second I suddenly half woke up out of the dream. I opened my eyes and was looking directly at the clock beside my bed. It was 11:22 and I thought... oh, how classic! Master numbers. It's like a YES/YES answer ... yes, we're all one. Connected! Of course! How cute that I'd be awakened to see this time on the clock. Obviously that's a message ;) Ok, gotta remember this later *remember* *remember* lol

.... oh Geez... headache getting worse again... probably going offlilne... :timer: ... sick of lying down ... and wish the sun would serioulsy go down already :lol: ... enough with the glare, man

Awh :wub:

I hope you feel better soon :huggy:
 
Hey guys. The thread has been moving fast since I went to bed.

It's so sad about those fans. So young :cry: I will keep them and their families in my prayers.

ModulationAlert Beautiful song. Really beautiful. It has so much depth. I listened to it without reading the lyrics the first time and I could feel what you were singing about without the words.

I had more to reply to but I had so much to read that I can't think of them all now.

Mundy, Amy, DarlingDear, Louise, and everyone, thank you for listening and your kind words, means the world to me when you guys understand the music...I really mean that.

I had some dreams over the last few nights about helping people. In one I had somehow accumulated 1 Billion dollars and I was planning on how I could use it to help people then I woke up. I didn't care that I woke up broke cos I don't care about money at all but I was so disappointed that I couldn't do anything with it. I was so happy in the dream because I knew that so much money could help a lot of people.

Last night I had been entered in some sort of competition. Like a Miss Ireland sort of thing :lmao:. I was sitting in the crowd watching the contestants. One of the girls brought a little boy in facepaint and a costume out with her and they wanted to "thank Amanda" for helping this child. They pointed in my direction and I thought this Amanda must be behind me somewhere but they came down from the stage and the boy came over and hugged me. The girl was someone I used to go to school with. I wasn't friends with her or anything, she was just in my year. I don't know who the boy was or what I had done in the dream but I'm wondering if I have helped someone without knowing it or if this is a sign that there's someone who could use my help. The random "thanks" message I got the other night too.... I signed up to volunteer for a big sister club a while back but they didn't need anyone. I should go back to them again and see if they need anyone now.


On a totally different note (sorry, this will be a long story) my boyfriend died three times when he was 15. He was grieving and used alcohol to get away from it. When he was in the ambulance he was reaching out to hold his mother's friend's hand. She had died a few weeks before. When the doctor was talking to his mother later he told her that my bf was calling the woman's name. We all believe that she kept him alive that day. The doctor said it was a miracle he survived it, nevermind not having brain damage or some other long term damage.

He has seen a lot of ghosts and felt presences over the years and I think he has the potential to to really "tune in" but I don't know if it's something he wants to do.

He told me the other night that there is something following him. He has been feeling it for a while but he didn't tell anyone. He doesn't think it's evil but he thinks that something bad is going to happen to him. Since the time he died he has felt like his life is going to be cut short and that he's not supposed to be here. I don't believe that. I think if something or someone made sure he stayed alive, not only is he supposed to be here but there is a really good reason for it.

I don't think that whatever is following him is evil. He doesn't feel that so if he can feel danger coming I'd say it is trying to protect him. What should I do? Should I do anything?

LOVE to everyone :heart::group::heart:

Hm, if he has the abilities of a psychic medium, than ignoring it and not knowing it will make it worse. It's just like MJBunny described it, that fear and being freaked out half the time because you just KNOW you feel them.

I've been explained (and again that made sense to me) that this would be exactly how entities in lower astral realms like to cling to you. That supposedly they cling to those who are not really aware of their abilities- creating fear in these people is how THEY experience. By creating fear in you they get to feel and experience.
I could relate to that because I spent half my life in freakout mode...but knowledge changed that, I'm no longer scared (most of the time). I remember that I sometimes had a hard time being in my own house because inevitably somebody would try and say HI- and freak me out.
Just being aware of and sort imagining myself reaching higher stopped that.
Whenever somebody strange cuts in, I'll immediately ignore it, ask whatever Archangel or Deity you find appropriate for the job for protection, picture yourself in white light and think "reach higher" (sounds strange but works...just think higherhigherhigher).
Just KNOWING made a huge difference for me in a matter of WEEKS, I'm not kidding. The freaked out feeling has almost completely gone away, except for a couple of things.

He could try a little running fountain of water in his room, apartment, house etc. Doesn't have to be fancy, just a little bit of running water. Has helped my son a lot- maybe he could try that. Running water has many positive aspects, might work for him.
He could protect the house, if he's such a magnet. Sage cleaning etc.
 
Thanks ModulationAlert. I told him the other night that there were things we could do to keep unwanted things out and I'll be going to his house in the next couple of days. Thanks for the info about fear and running water too. I think he is afraid that if he knows more he will attract more. If I explain it to him properly I'm sure he will understand. Thanks again :flowers:
 
At first I thought he was saying the spirit was making him feel like something was going to happen to him but when he talked about it a bit more, it seems the spirit and the feeling are seperate. He says he can feel it mostly when he is in his own house. He said he feels scared but it's not because it's evil, just because he knows they are there. It could be his granny or granddad. From what I can tell there are deep spiritual connections in the family. I have heard a lot of stories over the years. His granddad was very protective of him. He visited him the night he died. My bf said he just walked into the room like he was checking in on him then walked back out.
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My grandmother (who died just a few weeks before Michael) did the same thing and it absolutely freaked me out. I even yelled into the room to PLEASE stop scaring me. I hadn't even gotten the "your grandma passed" phone call yet and she was visiting right away the first night. And has ever since.
Does your boyfriend have trouble sleeping? (my son had huge issues until we took a couple of measures) Take baths in sea salt, hug a couple of trees, just ground yourself.
Get a little mini fountain. It might make him feel better.
 
Thanks ModulationAlert. I told him the other night that there were things we could do to keep unwanted things out and I'll be going to his house in the next couple of days. Thanks for the info about fear and running water too. I think he is afraid that if he knows more he will attract more. If I explain it to him properly I'm sure he will understand. Thanks again :flowers:

In my experience, knowledge will kick the fear out the door. The other way around. I was so freaked out most of my life, just being conscious of it makes a big difference. Oh, and I was told to please avoid Ouija Boards, Pendulums and the like because you simply have zero control over who's there and who's not- and if you are such a magnet already, that is nothing you would want to play with.
Never be afraid of knowledge. Not knowing just attracts those who experience through his fears. Make him take a bath in sea salt and hug some trees with both feet on the ground.
 
Are you kidding me? You have migraine now just like me? :doh: Well, I'll tell you the truth that mine is coming back little by little. It was like a few hours without pain at all but it starting. wtf? :blink: My grandma has to come back and fix it. :lol:
Crazy, huh? I read once that migraines are more common in the spring and autumn in the weeks around the equinoxes because the Earth's magnetic field fluctuates the most then. Well, then there are allergies to consider as well. I'm trying to "will" away my headache right now. Wait... did I say that word? I don't have any pain. What the heck am I talking about? I feel FINE (*trying* ... and seems to be getting better, but maybe that's the caffeine kicking in?)...

At first I thought he was saying the spirit was making him feel like something was going to happen to him but when he talked about it a bit more, it seems the spirit and the feeling are seperate. He says he can feel it mostly when he is in his own house. He said he feels scared but it's not because it's evil, just because he knows they are there. It could be his granny or granddad. From what I can tell there are deep spiritual connections in the family. I have heard a lot of stories over the years. His granddad was very protective of him. He visited him the night he died. My bf said he just walked into the room like he was checking in on him then walked back out.

I hope you feel better soon :huggy:
< Thanks. And about your bf and the fear thing, yeah, that's really something he needs to get over I think. Reminds me of my sister the day our grandfather died. She had just found out and then felt a very strong presence in the room with her and she said she got really scared then. I was like... who did you think it was??? She said our grandpa. :doh: Then why were you scared??? :lol: I mean, seriously. But I used to be terrified when I was younger, so it's just a process of getting over fear. In the end one just has to think ... they're just people. (Well, mostly, lol.) No one becomes scary just because they passed on. But, like Modulation Alert just wrote... when you don't know who it is, it's disconcerting. Anytime someone just shows up out of the blue I'm actually more "scared" about who I know may have died (yikes :cry:) than a presence in my room. It worries me... I start thinking, oh God... what if it's a relative or friend who just... passed...? I don't want to get that news...

Hm, if he has the abilities of a psychic medium, than ignoring it and not knowing it will make it worse. It's just like MJBunny described it, that fear and being freaked out half the time because you just KNOW you feel them.

I've been explained (and again that made sense to me) that this would be exactly how entities in lower astral realms like to cling to you. That supposedly they cling to those who are not really aware of their abilities- creating fear in these people is how THEY experience. By creating fear in you they get to feel and experience.
I could relate to that because I spent half my life in freakout mode...but knowledge changed that, I'm no longer scared (most of the time). I remember that I sometimes had a hard time being in my own house because inevitably somebody would try and say HI- and freak me out.
Just being aware of and sort imagining myself reaching higher stopped that.
Whenever somebody strange cuts in, I'll immediately ignore it, ask whatever Archangel or Deity you find appropriate for the job for protection, picture yourself in white light and think "reach higher" (sounds strange but works...just think higherhigherhigher).
Just KNOWING made a huge difference for me in a matter of WEEKS, I'm not kidding. The freaked out feeling has almost completely gone away, except for a couple of things.
Yep, totally agree. I was paralyzed by fear of "ghosts" when I was a kid and it's only been in the past 10 years or so that I've finally come to realize that it's not scary (err, well like 90% of the time, lol). And I have visits and weird stuff happening all the time. Runs in the family :lol: Last night, for example, it was the startle effect of having someone suddenly there, not fear of who might be there or that there was someone there. A couple of weeks ago hubby came home from work and I was sleeping and he somehow came into the room and lay down on the bed without waking me up. So I'm lying on my side, opened my eyes and hubby's face was like a foot from mine on the next pillow looking right at me and I freakin' FLIPPED :bugeyed :hysterical: :swoon: My heart was pounding for like 10 minutes :lol: And as soon as this happened I kind of imagined in the back of my mind Michael saying, "Now you know why I can't just show up like that :tease:" :doh: LOLOL Dangit!

Oh, that part about HIGHER... yes, I do that too! I put white light around me, sometimes visualized like an intense spotlight from God/above, like when MJ's about to start Billie Jean ;) It permeates everything and completely surrounds me. And if I feel freaked out or just disconnected I'll sort of "reach higher", yeah. For me I kind of feel it like swimming. Like I'm sort of butterfly stroking forward into higher realms with my energy. If that makes any sense.
 
Hey girls! :group: How is everyone today? I have a lot to catch up on! Feeling better today so I think I can manage the load...haha. Here I go...


Tinkerbell2 - Miss seeing you 'round here! I hope you feel more connected and uplifted soon. Much love hon. :huggy:

cyberjackson - good to see you pop in again girl. sorry to hear you are still down in the dumps :better: Speaking of the book "The Secret"...have you seen the movie? It's something that has always uplifted me and helped me to get back on track. Much love to ya darlin. :hug:

darlingdear - aw that's so sad about your bestfriend's Dad. I'm sorry to hear that. I wish you, your friend, his father and his family all healing and strength through this tough time! :hug:

MJJLaugh - As mjbunny said, the "Beginners Guide" book is serious. There are a lot of interesting concepts that gives great insights, imo. There are reviews about the book being funny because author tosses in some of his wit with his writing, which helps the book to be more enjoyable. I really loved it...found it a wonderful read. One of my fav "spiritual" books to date.

^Funny about your little "sign" from Michael on getting permission to read that book btw. :giggle:

Modulation Alert - I said it briefly before but I have to say again in more detail that your song was really beautiful...and now I understand why you said it was torturing you slowly! :cry: You are very talented...thanks for sharing that piece.

Asedora - I feel you on losing interest in social life. Partly it's 'cause of my depression I think but it's also like...what most people find exciting I just don't anymore. I'd rather connect with nature than a bunch of people at a party. I feel like it's more intimate and real. When I'm with a lot of people I feel like they just like to bounce drama off each other and there's a lot of fake smiles and small talk that just doesn't matter. So sweet to hear about that dream of yours btw. I'm glad to hear that you woke up without any pain!

mjbunny - :wild: Wow...you think you saw a spirit standing in your living room? Suhweeet. Even though it scared you half to death, it could be just the beginnings of giving you what you've always been asking for. :cheeky: Reminds me of a funny story actually. My Dad will often see spirits in the corner of his eye, or like he's seen our pets that have passed walking around the house. Well this one night he was up real late and as he was walking to the kitchen he saw this spirit run through the kitchen...only it was half a body! :lol: He said he saw only this pair of legs running. :lmao: He shouted "I see you!" but they didn't appear again.
Oh...and hope your migraine goes away soon darlin'! No fun. :hug:

Asedora said:
Yeah, spiritual revolution… . Makes sense. You said he is a different kind of spiritual figure. What kind do you think? His msg always was Love, nothing else. Was he like Jesus, Krishna, Archangel Michael or just simply Michael Jackson himself?
I think Michael was his own spiritual figure of sorts. While we talk about all these connections with him and Jesus, Krishna, etc...I think they are just that, connections... but not that he actually IS any of those people. I think he's just another soul who really GOT IT, like the others did. Got that it was all about love...got what life is all about...helping others, caring for one another. We're all one. I think he'll go down in history as one of the 'Greats' that people will aspire to become like. Haha think about it...what if thousands upon thousands of years in the future, there is another person born into the world with the same mission and the same loving energy...that everyone is like "omg! he shares a lot of the same qualities as the Great Michael Jackson!" just like we are doing now with Michael and Jesus. And then people will get all offended (just as they do now with Jesus) "how dare you compare this person to the Great Michael! He is above us all!" :lol:

Modulation Alert said:
I do have to say Michael NEVER looks the same twice with me. I think he likes playing and loves that he can just look any way he wants to- much easier to do than in life. And I think that's his thing.
Haha I love that. I wish I could see him shape shift and stuff. I never really "see" him...only in meditations which aren't very trustworthy and usually hazy. I remember in a dream I had last year though he started out as being 30ish and then turned to looking 50ish. Completely gorgeous both times. :heart:

darlingdear said:
amy - I feel this sadness too. Ever since I started meditating last year, it seems like I am more..attuned to the emotions of people near and far away, if that makes sense..?
Yeah exactly!

Sad to hear about those fans dying. Maybe that was part of what I was feeling last night. I really felt SO attuned to fans and much sadness last night that wasn't all my own. I just wanted to cry for others...and I felt like I was crying with others...yet I was all alone.

Mundy - interesting experience going on there with your bf. I agree that he was kept here for a good reason...and if he didn't deserve to be here he wouldn't have been saved those years ago. If he doesn't feel the presence is evil I'm sure it's there to protect and help him...keep him out of harm's way, not put him in it. I don't have any advice on what to do because I don't think there is anything that you can do but just support him, and help him to ease him of his fears. Maybe he is so nervous because he links feeling spirits with a sign of trouble? Dunno. Sweet dream you had, by the way...about helping people. Aww. :heart:

Mrs. Music - so cool about how the psychic saw in you the emotional impact of Michael's passing. Just like our hands, our feet can tell a lot about us! haha.
 
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mjbunny said:
And as soon as this happened I kind of imagined in the back of my mind Michael saying, "Now you know why I can't just show up like that :tease:" :doh:
:lol: See, what I'm thinkin' is, why don't they just try showing up in a way that won't jolt us? Like...starting out as a sparkle...then slowing forming into shape, getting denser and then voila...there they are. That way it's not just like BAM...HERE I AM! Shouldn't that be possible? Then anytime I see a sparkle I could just prepare myself. :p
 
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