DanceOfZenab1994 said:About the second one, I felt like he was telling me not to exploit him as in not talking about everything I know to everyone. You know?
I felt like, he was saying he'd prefer it if some things were "insiders" (as in something only fans/family would know). Nothing bad because MJ is so amazing, it's only good when fans talk about him but Michael is private.
This makes me feel stressed a bit. Like, I hope I haven't done or said anything that was disrespectful to Michael's privacy. I don't think I have, but just reading/viewing stuff that has been put out that I know Michael wouldn't have wanted us to see, I do feel bad about all that. Sometimes I question what I should even share in here...about my personal experiences I've had where it felt like he was around. But then everything is speculation. Before even reading this though, I've recently been getting the feeling of "privacy. Michael needs privacy" whenever I want to make contact with him. I didn't interpret it so much as "leave him alone" - though I do think that we shouldn't be constantly 'nagging' for him - but I took it as a matter of trust. Like...could he visit with me and trust I wouldn't go jabbering the experience around to everyone? But then I think, it's good for other fans to hear of experiences like that because it helps us feel close to him and know he's alright. Or is that not the issue. Still, if he sees our true selves and what our intentions really are, what IS the issue? Ok...I feel like I'm thinking too much on this now...I'm babbling. I just hope he's not disappointed in me for any reason.Asedora said:Well it makes sense.Because fans know a lot about him especially after the autopsy came out. He just simply doesn't want weird rumors to grow maybe.
At first I was like ...but then you said he did it in a humorous/joking way and that turns it all around and makes the statement rather cute. :lol:CaptainEoLove85 said:He said, "Something's wrong with Michael Jackson. I'm shutting down." But he said it in a humorous/joking kind of way and I think he ran off to finish the concert. LOL sounds like something he might do.
Great response! It is a mystery how some things come about when you are least expecting it, rather than when you are actively encouraging it, wanting and consciously preparing yourself for the experience. I guess some things come or happen according to when we will get the most out of the experience, or when we really need it. We don't always know what's best for ourselves. And you are right that now after Michael's passing, it really isn't that much different from when he was alive - where you always knew he was around doing stuff, but you didn't actually physically see him or were physically near him. Thinking about now...how we can actually have personal spirit-visits...I mean...wow. What a gift. A real honor. You know, I'm having a kind of epiphany now. Like, if he was living and I got to meet him, I certainly wouldn't be phoning him everyday asking for another visit - because that would be disrespectful and probably annoying...even if he knew I only did it 'cause I loved him. :lol: Instead - I would simply cherish the experience I had, and welcome any more - should life ever decide to put us in the same place again. Hmm...yep...that's the end of my "needy" chapter that I've been probably reading too much of these past months.^ That was in response to darlingdear, and what more can one say? We can certainly 'block' ourselves, like not feeling worthy or feeling too needy (both of which I guess lower your vibrations in some way). But sometimes there just doesn't seem to be an explanation. I remember about 15 years ago when I had this amazing out-of-body experience. The only conscious one ever. I wasn't trying, wasn't doing anything special during that time. So why THAT night??? Why not a night when I've been meditating regularly, am feeling good and centered and want it and welcome it? I have no explanation for that! Connectedness and spiritual experiences seem to come and go like inspiration or epiphanies. Outside of things like vision quests, walkabouts and shamanic journeys, it seems you can't force it. It just comes when it comes. I think we can certainly encourage it, of course, by living well, having love in our hearts, following our inner guidance, meditation or prayer, etc. I think this is the tough time now, when we still want to feel Michael like before, but we have to learn that we won't on a daily, weekly or (gulp) maybe even monthly basis. Of course, how is this different in some ways? As fans we always wanted to be close to Michael, to see him, to hear him, to feel his energy. And yet for all or nearly all of our lives, life didn't give that to most of us, even when he was here... Any moment you've had with Michael since he passed... anything, a dream, a touch, a feeling... cherish those beautiful gifts. I am SO thankful for every moment.
Aw man, can't believe what's happening on this planet...all these earthquakes, these significant people dying last year....I've never experienced so many people saying the same thing, that this is just all so highly odd. :no:
It might sound weird, but I truly believe that Michael was right about only having a small amount of time left to heal things. You can't just go on and on, without resolving issues in our nature. Nature is trying to tell us something.
Let this please all get better real soon...:angel:
Much love to y'all! :heart:
Man I know. Today after I dropped my daughter off at my parent's house, I decided to hit the new age bookstore on the way back home. I was flipping through a Sylvia Brown book...and this one chapter I happened to stop on was talking about all the natural disasters going on. She said something like "it's as if Mother Nature is declaring war on us for what we have done to her".Aw man, can't believe what's happening on this planet...all these earthquakes, these significant people dying last year....I've never experienced so many people saying the same thing, that this is just all so highly odd. :no:
This makes me feel stressed a bit. Like, I hope I haven't done or said anything that was disrespectful to Michael's privacy. I don't think I have, but just reading/viewing stuff that has been put out that I know Michael wouldn't have wanted us to see, I do feel bad about all that. Sometimes I question what I should even share in here...about my personal experiences I've had where it felt like he was around. But then everything is speculation. Before even reading this though, I've recently been getting the feeling of "privacy. Michael needs privacy" whenever I want to make contact with him. I didn't interpret it so much as "leave him alone" - though I do think that we shouldn't be constantly 'nagging' for him - but I took it as a matter of trust. Like...could he visit with me and trust I wouldn't go jabbering the experience around to everyone? But then I think, it's good for other fans to hear of experiences like that because it helps us feel close to him and know he's alright. Or is that not the issue. Still, if he sees our true selves and what our intentions really are, what IS the issue? Ok...I feel like I'm thinking too much on this now...I'm babbling. I just hope he's not disappointed in me for any reason.
This is EXACTLY what I was asking for last night! I thought...ok...surely Michael would be willing to sit down with me and tell me his feelings and concerns. I thought "Michael, if I'm doing something wrong or if you don't want me to share my experiences, please tell me. Can we work things out? And if there is nothing wrong, can you at least visit me to let me know so I can have peace of mind? Can't we just have a few moments to be open and honest. Surely you can see my soul and what my intents are." I also felt the exact same way of oh maybe he is just testing some of us...?I wish he would just tell me straight up in a dream what I should and shouldn't talk about. I wanna tell you guys things but feel like I shouldn't. I feel like you said, I feel like he is testing to see if I can keep things to myself to see if he can trust me. :doh:
We can certainly 'block' ourselves, like not feeling worthy or feeling too needy (both of which I guess lower your vibrations in some way). But sometimes there just doesn't seem to be an explanation. I remember about 15 years ago when I had this amazing out-of-body experience. The only conscious one ever. I wasn't trying, wasn't doing anything special during that time. So why THAT night??? Why not a night when I've been meditating regularly, am feeling good and centered and want it and welcome it? I have no explanation for that! Connectedness and spiritual experiences seem to come and go like inspiration or epiphanies. Outside of things like vision quests, walkabouts and shamanic journeys, it seems you can't force it. It just comes when it comes. I think we can certainly encourage it, of course, by living well, having love in our hearts, following our inner guidance, meditation or prayer, etc. I think this is the tough time now, when we still want to feel Michael like before, but we have to learn that we won't on a daily, weekly or (gulp) maybe even monthly basis. Of course, how is this different in some ways? As fans we always wanted to be close to Michael, to see him, to hear him, to feel his energy. And yet for all or nearly all of our lives, life didn't give that to most of us, even when he was here... Any moment you've had with Michael since he passed... anything, a dream, a touch, a feeling... cherish those beautiful gifts. I am SO thankful for every moment.
You both said it so well...this makes sense and I'm also extremely thankful for every moment I got since. Getting these experiences and be able to get on this level is so rewarding. It's indeed interesting to see how these things happen right at the times when you least expect it or at the times when you need it most. That's exactly what you said, Amy, we don't always know what's best for ourselves. Last time when I had that snowball-throwing-at-me experience that was just huge, now that was truly something I least expected and most needed and that was SO vividly...there's just no doubt. :heart:Great response! It is a mystery how some things come about when you are least expecting it, rather than when you are actively encouraging it, wanting and consciously preparing yourself for the experience. I guess some things come or happen according to when we will get the most out of the experience, or when we really need it. We don't always know what's best for ourselves. And you are right that now after Michael's passing, it really isn't that much different from when he was alive - where you always knew he was around doing stuff, but you didn't actually physically see him or were physically near him. Thinking about now...how we can actually have personal spirit-visits...I mean...wow. What a gift. A real honor. You know, I'm having a kind of epiphany now. Like, if he was living and I got to meet him, I certainly wouldn't be phoning him everyday asking for another visit - because that would be disrespectful and probably annoying...even if he knew I only did it 'cause I loved him. :lol: Instead - I would simply cherish the experience I had, and welcome any more - should life ever decide to put us in the same place again. Hmm...yep...that's the end of my "needy" chapter that I've been probably reading too much of these past months.
That's exactly how I feel.
Sigh.
I wish he would just tell me straight up in a dream what I should and shouldn't talk about. I wanna tell you guys things but feel like I shouldn't. I feel like you said, I feel like he is testing to see if I can keep things to myself to see if he can trust me. :doh:
Definitely will offer up some prayers and send positive healing energy to him. :angel:I really hope he is going to be ok. He was let out of hospital after his tests results were inconclusive. He's being sent to another hospital next week. If any of you don't mind, please send him some love, healing thoughts, think of him in your prayers/meditations/whatever way you do things.
:heart: :blush: Thanks, from me and 'whomever else' it was who wrote it lolol, because that was such a weird day. It was the week charges were filed and fans were being vicious to each other and all the "I hate Murray! I hope he burns in hell!" stuff. You know, do we want justice or vengeance. That night I was upset and suddenly just felt: "WRITE" out of the blue. And that just poured out. I had to cut some of it (nothing crucial) because it was so long I was afraid it would be "tl;dr" ... but it's like I feel it's not really mine in some ways. I mean, it's all true, it's all what I feel and how I wanted the guru figure when younger, what I've realized about Michael and how I feel about us fans, etc. But the way whole sentences just appeared in my mind... it was weird. I suppose others here can relate to that, when songs or poems or whatever just drop down from the sky onto you. Like Michael always said, it's hard to take credit because you feel it was already written somewhere else. But thanks, I'm really glad others find it touching :hug:
:lol:... totally.I wouldn't phone him up and be like yo MJ meet up today? I would just be like omg, I met MJ, that is me done for life!
Hah...I guess this is another reason why I felt the need to drop in at the new age bookstore today and why I flipped through that Sylvia Browne book. Because here we all are speculating about what is ok and what isn't, worrying about whether Michael may be upset over this and that. In the book I remember quickly skimming over a section talking about karma. But it was stating that it's all about intent. That when something is done with malice, that is when you work up karmic debt. So now I'm thinking this can apply to what we are talking about - because like, if there are things Michael doesn't want us to share or something, and we end up sharing it - it's certainly not our intent to disrespect him. I would think that if he doesn't like something we are doing, he would find a way to tell us - whether through dream or something - so that we can understand how he is feeling. I don't think he'd just not go near us because we did what we did - because we don't know better. We only act out of love when it comes to Michael. So....yeah. I'm feeling better about this now.CaptainEoLove85 said:I'd never want to do anything that would violate Michael's privacy. I definitely wouldn't share anything I think is personal regarding him, but where's the line? I don't know what he would consider to be too personal to share because I can't receive any specific direct response from him. I might think he's fine with it, but what if he isn't?
Definitely will offer up some prayers and send positive healing energy to him. :angel:
^ I hope your uncle will be alright. I'll think of him with positive energy as well.
Wow, here we go with the deep discussions again We've talked about this topic before and I guess in the end I agree with all of you; I mean all the views. I think there's such a thing as saying too much and also that it's ok to share with those who also benefit from the information. I might seem like a bit of a nutter sometimes because I have so many strange things happen to me, lol, but that's always my life :lol: But there are also times when I write something about what I felt Michael told me and then I delete it before I hit 'post reply'. I think part of it may be that feeling we talked about before... lurkers and who knows who's reading what. But there are some experiences that are just private, you know, like I feel they should be private. And yeah, I agree about intent.... WHY you're sharing something. And I also find myself being too "needy" from time to time and thinking, "I'm so sorry, Michael. Just ignore me, please. I'm just being whiny." (Adding... sometimes I feel very much like this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EHAo6rEuas, one of my "to MJ" songs from the past that means even more now Bryan Adams - 'Please Forgive Me'. "So if I love you a little a more than I should, please forgive me. I know not what I do. Please forgive me. I can't stop loving you.... Please forgive me if I need you like I do." < Among many bits of the lyrics that make me think of Michael. Not all fit, of course, but this song made me think of Michael even years ago...)
And with that, I totally forgot earlier that I had two things to share Ok, first was a dream this morning. There was a TV in a room that was playing some boring news talk show. I wasn't paying much attention, but I heard someone ask a question like "is there any group on Earth right now that is actually doing good, that really does care and not just for their own agenda?" (You know, like religious or political groups). And one of the guests said very seriously and loudly, "Yes. Michael Jackson fans." I was like...WHOA.. damn, I could've been recording this! It was a totally unexpected response. The others on the show chuckled at first (hataz :rolleyes2: lol), but the man said, "Don't laugh. I'm very serious. Absolutely. Did you know that they..." and I can't remember what he said, but was talking about love and doing good and spiritual awakening. I can't remember specifics. I was just astounded that I was hearing this on television!
^ LOVE it! :yes: :heart: I downloaded them and set the files (on my comp, so not killing your bandwidth on photobucket, lol) as my homepages in Firefox, lolol. Hubby will be confused when he gets up and turns on the computer
(Btw, the guy talking about MJ fans doing great things was on television in my dream, lol. Would be nice if in the real world, though! )
Thank you Niamh :heart: Awh, ya got the MJ google logo and everything. Someone (I think Reeta) has the same thing with sexy instead of love.
^ And off topic, but I wanted to add this because it just came up on my mp3 player. Years ago there was a hair band named White Lion and they did this song called "Little Fighter" and the lyrics some years later (I mean post-1993, ahem) were SOOOOOOO much about Michael for me. I mean, holy crap 99% of the lyrics fit (except I always feel uncomfortable with the word "little"... like a child? Like someone who's 2 feet tall? Not sure, lol). Anyway, I rediscoved this again in 2005 after the trial and cried my head off. Wanted to share it because I still find it incredible and so about MJ for me:
Lyrics:
Are you cryin' tonight,
are you feelin' alright,
i'll tell the world that you are
down on your luck,
you were one of a kind,
one I'm never giving up,
even when they put a price on your head
has anyone heard the tales you tell
or seen the scars you wear
did anyone speak up when you fell
does anybody care
[CHORUS] rise again, little fighter
and let the world know the reason why
shine again, little fighter
and don't let 'em end the things you do
and you were one with a cause,
and a reason to be,
you were a fighter for peace on this earth,
and you were never afraid,
you put your life on the line,
and you were always alone out on the sea
without a weapon in your hand
you came to fight a war
they took your life, but didn't know
that you would never die -chorus repeats-
are you feelin' alright
cause i care, care
you're not alone, little fighter,
...always stand beside you,
and never stop believing
If any of you don't mind, please send him some love, healing thoughts, think of him in your prayers/meditations/whatever way you do things. I'm sending him my love as much as possible and I picked up some gemstones for healing to send to him. The man in the shop gave me a medal to give to him so he can have "new age and old fashioned stuff" and asked me to keep him updated.
Thanks guys :heart::huggy::heart:
If any of you don't mind, please send him some love, healing thoughts, think of him in your prayers/meditations/whatever way you do things. I'm sending him my love as much as possible and I picked up some gemstones for healing to send to him. The man in the shop gave me a medal to give to him so he can have "new age and old fashioned stuff" and asked me to keep him updated.
Thanks guys :heart::huggy::heart:
Yeah it was me who suggested it and what? seriously? :mello:
You made that up or it's for real? :bugeyed
*goes to check*