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Have you gained respect for Lisa after watching this interview? Do you forgive/understand her now?

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marebear said:
This is just her side of things. I am not trying to be negative but I am not going to believe 100% what she says. I have not heard Michael's side and that will never happen anyways.
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I'm with you. I wouldn't believe this woman if she grew wings and granted wishes!
 
Watched it all...This was a good interview, for the most part I would say. I believe everything she says in this interview.
 
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LisaU123 said:
Maybe you should open your mind. An autopsy report is not going to show mirajuana use/etc from a decade before. She didn't say he was into cocaine or anything like that. Stop being so naive, he was not a saint. None of us are saints. Its known at one point he was addicted to the pain meds, but yet that wans't in the autopsy either.
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Michael did not die a decade ago. What he did ten years ago did not kill him. Him being addicted to pills is not new to us he even said it himself. You and people like you need to realise Michael had health issues and needed medicine. I have health issues I need medicine does me an addict too?
 
I think some of you need to be careful with all the drug/addict talk. The thread will just get locked or cleaned anyway, so there's no need in arguing about it if you ask me.
 
I aplaud Lisa for talking honestly about their relationship... But the two things I didn't like were her replies about allegations ("I wasn't in the room" - she could have said something like "no, I know Michael and I can tell you that nothing ever happened, so shut up Oprah") and the drugs talk. It seems to me that Lisa didn't really know any details about Michael's medical condition. Even when he collapsed she said that every day it was different information. I assume she got her information from the press, because I don't see how a doctor would be giving different info every day. Besides that doctor did an interview last year saying that Michael was clean when he was admitted to hospital. I can;t comment on the Bashir interview, because I haven't seen it in years (can't stand Bashir's face) but judging from the outtakes that were released last year Michael seems fine to me.. So I guess Lisa doesn't really know much about it and she just assumes. Sad.


Also, did you notice how she sometimes slips and starts talking about him in the present tense? :cry::cry::cry:

I believe that had she given Michael a different answer in 2005 things could have been different. I feel sorry for Lisa because she will have to live with this feeling and knowledge that she abandoned him for the rest of her life.
 
I am happy with what she said, if she really had bad intentions and only wanted to get attention, she could have said 'Oh boy,my marriage with MJ? It was rather weird, very unusual, definitely something i want to forget' but nope, not at all. To me it seems like she speaks from the heart here, give me one good reason why she would lie about these things.

One only had to look at pictures of the two, and videos, and stories from Mike's friends to know that they really did love eachother alot. I never doubted that. And i am very happy that Michael has felt real love in his life, if someone deserves it.....jeez...its him :(.
 
JMie said:
I can;t comment on the Bashir interview, because I haven't seen it in years (can't stand Bashir's face) but judging from the outtakes that were released last year Michael seems fine to me.. So I guess Lisa doesn't really know much about it and she just assumes. Sad.
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Nah, she was actually right about that. I cringed when I saw the scenes Lisa is referring to (for example the scene where Michael and Gavin were holding hands....I too thought he was 'high as a kite' lol. There's something not right about him in those scenes.) and if you watch them you'll see what I mean.
 
as for their marriage I always believed it was real and I was happy for Michael when he was married to her, because he seemed really happy to me during that time. I remember seeing their photoshoot for the first time and thinking, wow Michael is really shining in these photos.

It really saddens me that this love story didn't get a happy ending (not for Lisa, but for Michael). I believe Lisa's story about their conversation in 2005. And if he asked her then if she still loved him, to me it means he still cared about her. And probably hoped they still could have a future together... And they could have if she weren't too proud and too stubborn. That's very very sad.
 
Could it be that ELVIS little girl has finally grown up.? I came away from the show thinking both OPRAH and LISA MARIE are offering an olive branch. LISA MARIE bared her soul. Now she is officially nuts to the media and the MJ detractors.

I am ready to forgive and move on.
 
Tyga said:
I didn't like her saying he was high during the Marting Bashir interview:no:
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i'm ashamed to admit this but i'll do it for Mike. i was once high on recreational drugs. i know what it is to be high on that..and i know what it looks like to be high on it. and MJ didn't look high, in that Bashir interview to me. in fact, he looked like Lisa Marie Presley looks in this interview. i can't tell the difference. he looked defiant. he had someone putting on his makeup, he knew he was being interviewed by a shark, but he didn't look high. he didn't look anything like i looked when i was high.

so..again, i hate when somebody says, 'you look high'. it's a judgement statement, and it's like saying, 'you look gay', or 'you look straight', or, you look whatever'. and in this interview, with Oprah saying the 'were you afraid to face the TRUTH about drugs?', and for Lisa Marie to say 'he looked high', neither Oprah nor Lisa Marie knows what the TRUTH is at that moment. so that question and that judgement call by Lisa Marie, are sensationalist moves. the album has been promoted. don't try to put my head in the clouds, because at the moment, it is not. it's been years since that drug experiment of mine. if Michael had said he didn't want to give the impression he was promoting an album, while doing some 'exorcising' in an interview about a failed marriage, the media would rake him over the coals. that's not going to happen to Lisa Marie.
the media will love her, from now on.

talking softly does not automatically equal offering an olive branch. that's like saying a preacher is talking softly and gently, so that automatically means he's telling the truth.

i am really looking forward to the Katherine Jackson interview, right now.

but then again, i guess Oprah knew that.
 
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Lisa Marie Presley 'regrets' she didn't save Michael Jackson

Oprah Winfrey, who sat down last night at the University of Illinois in Chicago to present Toni Morrison the Carl Sandburg Literary Award, aired a revealing interview with Lisa Marie Presley on her show today.

The topic was Presley's ex-husband, Michael Jackson. Presley has not spoken about her ex-husband's death except for a blog post soon after he died on June 25, 2009. And at the end of this interview, she swore she is never going to talk about Jackson again.

Lisa Marie recalled that the day Michael died. "I was crying all day," she told Oprah. She didn't know why. Finally, she got word. "Actually, John Travolta was one of the first texts I got, asking, "Are you all right?'"

Her reaction: "Real honest-to-goodness shock. I was floored. Honestly floored."

In the lengthy interview, Presley also revealed:

- "In every sense it was a normal marriage."

- "He was like a little gnome. because it was hard for him to sleep. I'd hear him piddling. It was a bit endearing and I didn't mind it. But he did have a hard time sleeping, yes."

- "I loved taking care of him. It was the highest point of my life."

-"He was like a drug for me. I always wanted to be around him. I never felt like that feeling with another human being except for one -- my father."

-Was there a lot of pressure to have a baby? "Yes," she said adding that Michael told her Debbie Rowe was willing to have one.

- "We would have three-day arguments, taking a break to eat or sleep," she said. Michael "really tried" to make the relationship work at times. "I didn't appreciate it then."

- "We were so united and then at some point he pushed me out."

- Their last "coherently good" conversation was in 2005. "I was so removed from him and he could feel it and hear it. I was very distant ... He was asking me, he wanted to tell me that I was right about a lot of people around him. And he asked if I still loved him. ... I told him I was indifferent and he didn't like that word. And the final part of the conversation was him telling me that someone was going to try and kill him to get a hold of his catalog and estate. And I really didn't know what to do with that."

- As she stood over his casket, was she able to make peace? "No. I wanted to apologize. I felt like I wanted to apologize for not being around."

- Could she have saved him? "Naively, I want to say: I wanted to. Could I have? Had I made a call? Had I stopped being so shut off from him? Had I just said, 'How are you?' I really did regret that I didn't."

- "If he didn't want you around, he could make you go away, including his own family. I think that was a train headed in a certain direction I don't think anyone could have stopped."

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...ey-regrets-she-couldnt-save-michael-jackson/1
 
Great interview. She seemed open and honest. I wish they would've stressed how they were married 15+ years ago and that her recollections were from then. I think some people may take what she said (drugs) as if it happened last year, regardless of any other information available

That being said, I wonder what snippets or soundbites other press outlets will use
 
I think she was honest. It happens all the time that we open up our eyes when we lose something precious that we did not appreciate when we had it. I really think she was great.
She made me love Michael even more.
I just feel sorry for her present husband and Debbie Rowe if she is watching. However, I do understand Debbie. I would happily do for him the same thing she did.
Love you more Michael.
 
I have no problem given Lisa credit for this interview she did the best she could with what she knew. She said the same things Mez said that Michael had health issues and had to get injections that left him loopy so that did not shock me. I don't think she had any idea why Michael had to get those shots sounds like he kept her in the dark about his health.
 
Here's my review (as posted on another site) so not to write it all over again:

I am still in tears. I didn't think I was actually going to cry during Lisa's interview.

Lisa finally spoke the truth and Oprah asked some good questions. I nearly jumped off my couch when Lisa FINALLY admitted that they were still seeing each other four years after the divorce and "traveling the world". She never admit that before. Never. She admitted she made mistakes. She admitted her marriage to MJ broke her family apart (Precilla). She admitted she was bitter and angry in the past. She admitted her interview about Michael in the past were angrily bitter and balky. She admitted it was hard to be with her and MJ had to put up with her and vise versa. She made him human.

She also (which shocked me) said MJ told her someone wanted to kill him for his catalogue.

She didn't paint Michael as a junkie. Just what she saw at the time she was married to him and afterwards what she saw in the Bashir interview. I actually believe her because I recall seeing the bashir interview and thinking there was something off about Michael in that studio conversation with Bashir. He was "high as a Kite" as Lisa said, and I knew it.

All and all I am satisfied with the interview and all the anger I had with Lisa on and off over the years slipped away. That's buried somewhere now. Death really changes us. It changed me and I can see it changed Lisa. I can see her pain in her eyes. This was the most sincere interview she has ever done. Not even the Jackson's have ever done a sincere interview like this.

Last but not least, did anyone notice the sunflowers?

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and this image of Lisa by his casket had me on the fucking floor crying.

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Anyway, that's my take on it. I don't hold any anger or grudge with Lisa anymore. It's time to move on and forgive.
 
Dutchie said:
Nah, she was actually right about that. I cringed when I saw the scenes Lisa is referring to (for example the scene where Michael and Gavin were holding hands....I too thought he was 'high as a kite' lol. There's something not right about him in those scenes.) and if you watch them you'll see what I mean.
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hmm ... for me he seems rather embarrassed than anything else, he's taken aback. It is the kid who holds his hand and leans against his shoulder. he seems uncomfortable.
 
This interview has broken my heart--AGAIN. I know this story all too well from my own past experiences with an ex-spouse... and I can feel the pain all over again.

I wish she would've just left things alone, and it wouldn't have to hurt so bad again. Sounds like this was her way of gaining some closure. After Michael is already dead and gone. Seriously, what was the point?! What's done is done. Shoulda', Woulda', Coulda'.... blah, blah, and all of that old mess.


*backs away from thread again*
 
heartbreaking to watch. I think she seems very honest and profound. in my opinion they had something very special...
 
guys, remember that mysterious letter from Michael to some unknown woman? I am now ready to believe that it was really written to Lisa.... :(
 
JMie said:
I aplaud Lisa for talking honestly about their relationship... But the two things I didn't like were her replies about allegations ("I wasn't in the room" - she could have said something like "no, I know Michael and I can tell you that nothing ever happened, so shut up Oprah") and the drugs talk. It seems to me that Lisa didn't really know any details about Michael's medical condition. Even when he collapsed she said that every day it was different information. I assume she got her information from the press, because I don't see how a doctor would be giving different info every day. Besides that doctor did an interview last year saying that Michael was clean when he was admitted to hospital. I can;t comment on the Bashir interview, because I haven't seen it in years (can't stand Bashir's face) but judging from the outtakes that were released last year Michael seems fine to me.. So I guess Lisa doesn't really know much about it and she just assumes. Sad.


Also, did you notice how she sometimes slips and starts talking about him in the present tense? :cry::cry::cry:

I believe that had she given Michael a different answer in 2005 things could have been different. I feel sorry for Lisa because she will have to live with this feeling and knowledge that she abandoned him for the rest of her life.
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No, MJ was definitely out of it in Bashir's interview.

She kinda brush on the subject of illness..when she said he needed different injections for his health. Oprah suggested his skin disease she said yes...but I had the feeling she did not want to volunteer any other health problems (lupus..etc)
 
They killed MJ for the catalogue

Lisa marie Presley said that someone wanted to kill MJ, what she knows is the truth and I think it a stupid world!!! WHO killed MICHAEL JACKSON???

This is not about the doctor, what if someone more was in his house and gave Michael th overdose? The "system" killed him. thats what really happend, he was right :(
 
the great thing, ironically, is mystery is once again, Michael's friend. since no two people have the same opinion on how MJ looked in the Bashir interview, and nobody is better than the other with their 'truth', even if they try to stomp it on top of everybody else's. in the end, mystery is the non judgemental one, as their is no final answer that can be determined as truth, unless one judging person feels they are better than the other.

the mystique remains with MJ.
 
Anytime I see a picture of Michael's casket it breaks my heart. I hope this okay to ask and I don't mean this in a mean way but just out of curiousity. Why would someone want a picture taken of them with a casket? I wouldn't want that. I am just wondering generally speaking.
 
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Conspiracy said:
Lisa marie Presley said that someone wanted to kill MJ, what she knows is the truth and I think it a stupid world!!! WHO killed MICHAEL JACKSON???

This is not about the doctor, what if someone more was in his house and gave Michael th overdose? The "system" killed him. thats what really happend, he was right :(
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Proof?
 
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LisaU123 said:
Maybe you should open your mind. An autopsy report is not going to show mirajuana use/etc from a decade before. She didn't say he was into cocaine or anything like that. Stop being so naive, he was not a saint. None of us are saints. Its known at one point he was addicted to the pain meds, but yet that wans't in the autopsy either.
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I agree.

I luv them both. They loved each other very much..
 
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Conspiracy said:
Lisa marie Presley said that someone wanted to kill MJ, what she knows is the truth and I think it a stupid world!!! WHO killed MICHAEL JACKSON???

This is not about the doctor, what if someone more was in his house and gave Michael th overdose? The "system" killed him. thats what really happend, he was right :(
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well she said she knew some names that Michael gave her, but she's not willing to divulge. i don't know if that's because she doesn't know whether to believe it or not, as she said, she didn't know what to make of it, or, if she wants to protect them, or if she's afraid of them, or, if she doesn't want to give the media and others one more thing to run around with, without knowing whether or not, she believes, it can be proven, or what.
 
Thank you, tragickingdom, so much for putting all that effort out to post these three parts of the interview for us. I do not have a TV hooked up to receive channels, so I would not have been able to see it any other way.

I feel such a deep, peace, since watching this interview. I can't explain it, but it's there. Spiritual mysteries. :)

I'm pleased that a lot of you are softening "a bit" towards Lisa Marie now. That is the right thing to do. I believe with all my heart Michael would wish this from his fans. :flowers: He is about loving and forgiving.
 
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the great thing, ironically, is mystery is once again, Michael's friend. since no two people have the same opinion on how MJ looked in the Bashir interview, and nobody is better than the other with their 'truth', even if they try to stomp it on top of everybody else's. in the end, mystery is the non judgemental one, as their is no final answer that can be determined as truth, unless one judging person feels they are better than the other.

the mystique remains with MJ.
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I think the same about how Michael looked during promoting Invincible, when he was in that blue suit. Or when he was around Uri Geller, when he was holding a stick, those times he really looked different. Almost tired like really...
 
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