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LMP on Oprah 21/10/10 All Discussion Here - UPDATE Video's Start On Page 63

Have you gained respect for Lisa after watching this interview? Do you forgive/understand her now?

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Sophielo said:
I fthink she feels a lot of it is guilt which is why she spoke now. She was so angry when he was alive, it was obvious she loved him a lot and the break up hurt her a lot. Trouble is a lot of people came out saying about all this stuff about how amazing he was after June but I ask where were those people before he died? People treated him like a joke and mocked him. They say death is the ultimate vindication and this has proved true in Michael's case. What I think? People didn't realise how good we had it with him being here. When he passed the world had to take a long hard look at what it lost and it was a loss that we will never be able to fill. Michael was special and the world treated him like crap. You don't know what you have until it's gone and with Michael this world didn't know what it had until he went.
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I also agree she does feel guilty over what happened in the past. Maybe she thinks that if she did something maybe he still would be here.
 
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Asedora said:
The question he asked was in 2005. It could be AFTER the trial. I think this question is nothing to do with the trial persay.
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Even if it was after the trial it still doesn't change what I just said. (Eventhough I think it's more likely that it was during the trial but we all don't know)
He could have been looking for a friend. It would still hurt to be shut out like that.
Still doesn't mean he was proclaiming his love for her.
 
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imho... it is really a confession and she asks for forgiveness.

But who does she ask. The only one who should hear her listens from Heaven, but how should he talk and say "i forgive you".

you know... at least people like Oprah now hear that confession that makes it sure to them that they the marriage was not for show. So, that interview is, most importantly, for the media people. To wake up.

l.o.v.e. MJ

Betty
 
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It's always interesting to hear people that were close to Michael talk about him.

I wish one day there was an interview with Miko Brando or Liz Taylor, people who were with Michael for so long... but at the same time I think it's really good they don't want to talk about him. It shows they have the highest respect for Michael and their friendship.

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I cried when she talked about John Travolta texting her about Michael's passing. They showed a short clip of news reports from June 25... :(
 
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I love how she described her love for Michael...her words were so nice , but i do not believe all what she say , based on her past interviews ,she sometimes add alot of things to any story she says.

anyway , lovely interview.
 
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Gaz said:
One question,

Why now, why not when he was with us.

She will now have to live with the guilt for the rest of her life, as the one very person who would want to hear this is not here anymore.
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Oprah asked that. She said that it had to happen that way sadly. I just don't think she ever would've gone there when he was alive. When he asked her in 05 if she still loved him I think she was terrified of getting hurt again. She hadn't let go of what they'd been through.

It's really sad. She's not alone. Sometimes it's hard to figure out why people do the things they do and why some things have to happen a certain way.

But she gave him what he'd never had. To know what it felt like to love and be loved by a woman. :) He may have never had that if it weren't for her.
 
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hmm still singing the manipulation song.
 
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Gaz said:
One question,

Why now, why not when he was with us.

She will now have to live with the guilt for the rest of her life, as the one very person who would want to hear this is not here anymore.
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I might be niave, but I believe there is truth in what she said. That when Michael died she was "gutted." Everything she had been suppressing and denying overwhelmed her, and she is still sorting it all out, letting what ever clarity she's gaining and pain come to the surface.

As much as I myself loved MJ, I never thought his death would affect me to the extent it did and still does. He was my favorite entertainer EVER, but his death was physical and personal for me, and I'd never had a one on one with him. I can only imagine how it was for someone who shared an actual romantic relationship with him.

I also believe her that she wanted to get all this out now before she started promoting her new album, otherwise, she'd never really get to talk about the album. Unfortunately, Lisa Marie has a wake up call coming. If she's not talking about MJ or her daddy, there isn't going to be mass interest in her from interviewers.
 
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TurtleDove said:
Oprah asked that. She said that it had to happen that way sadly. I just don't think she ever would've gone there when he was alive. When he asked her in 05 if she still loved him I think she was terrified of getting hurt again. She hadn't let go of what they'd been through.

It's really sad. She's not alone. Sometimes it's hard to figure out why people do the things they do and why some things have to happen a certain way.

But she gave him what he'd never had. To know what it felt like to love and be loved by a woman. :) He may have never had that if it weren't for her.
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I wish these people with these ideas in their heads about Lisa bing MJs first and only love would just stop it. Please, please stop it. It is not true. Mj would have known this without her. He knew it before and he knew it after. If people would actually do more research instead of opting to believe what they want, it would be better.

Lord! This irks me to my core.
Rant over! Sorry!
 
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So is anyone starting to reconsider their opinions on LMP?

I am kind of, I understand her more now anyway.
 
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For the most part I liked her interview. It was very informative and she seemed very open. That is until close to the end when Oprah asks her about the molestations charges. Then she launches right back in to the defensive "I didn't see anything" and "the only people who know is Michael and whoever was in the room" crap. She could have really redeemed herself and rounded out the interview by just saying that she flat out doesn't believe it and she sure it was all lies and then be done with it. It just really ticked me off.
 
Lisa is coming across well overall. I think they both made mistakes, but it's obvious they loved each other.

Lisa obviously feels a lot of guilt though.
 
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Layla said:
For the most part I liked her interview. It was very informative and she seemed very open. That is until close to the end when Oprah asks her about the molestations charges. Then she launches right back in to the defensive "I didn't see anything" and "the only people who know is Michael and whoever was in the room" crap. She could have really redeemed herself and rounded out the interview by just saying that she flat out doesn't believe it and she sure it was all lies and then be done with it. It just really ticked me off.
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I agree on all your points. The last part ticked me off, but the part about him being in the hospital in '95 for drug related issues, REALLY ticked me off. The doctor who was treating him made it very clear NO DRUGS WERE involved in his literally fatal condition. Can't Oprah's staff look up anything?
 
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Although, I do know that there are ALWAYS 2 sides of the story and obviously she wasn't perfect and neither was Michael... As time goes on... you must admit to yourself that this person was a very important person in your life, he/she taught you many lessons, and helped you grow as a human being. It's all about FORGIVENESS.

Unfortunately, the ones who stay bitter and continue to place blame on the other one's door throughout their lives, don't realize how special that person was to them until they are gone. My ex-husband still harbors blame and anger towards me... while I have tried, and tried, and tried to forgive him and show nothing but kindness and LOVE. Nothing but complete rejection from him. Sometimes I wonder if he someway found out that I had died tomorrow--would he even blink an eye-lash?? Would he even shed one tear for me?

It's so, so very sad. But... it is basically, the oldest story in the book. You do not know what you have until it is GONE. In my case... I don't think I will ever know the truth until I die. :cry:
 
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So far there hasn't been any :eek:-surprises for me. For example I have always felt Michael's life was, like it was described, "it's my way or the highway" and people around him did what was asked to do, because everyone knew they were dispensable (that was the word they used, right?). I have to admit I don't get the manipulation 'whining' that's been said here... Whenever she spoke about the manipulation to me it made a lot of sense.


Oh and by the way thank you for uploading the interview! :flowers: Let's see how long it will last on Youtube until Harpo finds it and the parts will be removed :D
 
Oh God, I feel deeply sad by Michael :cry: and not Lisa.

We only give value to something/someone very important, when we lost forever, that's a fact, unfortunately. It's too late for Lisa lament for what you did in the past and did not do.... on tv with Oprah. :)puke:) Sorry, for me, is completely impossible to try to understand Lisa. She is incomprehensible.

I feel sad by Michael, just for him. :(


I love you Michael... FOREVER!!!! :heart:
 
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I didn't like her saying he was high during the Marting Bashir interview:no:
 
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