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Have you gained respect for Lisa after watching this interview? Do you forgive/understand her now?

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I won't say much because I know it hasn't aired in most places but I love Lisa. She's a beautiful soul. She spoke so movingly of their love. It's clear that she still loves him and that he probably went to his grave loving her. She said he cried when she told him she was "indifferent" to him. He'd asked her if she still loved him. Obviously, I think he was trying to tell her that he still loved her. Why do you ask someone that without some sort of hope for something more? There's no point.

I wish they'd been able to talk things out. Danggit!!

I know alot of fans hate on her but I think she redeemed herself. She didn't try to make excuses for her behavior and answered everything head on. I just wish it'd been longer. There was so many other things that Oprah could've gotten into concerning the post divorce relationship and Debbie.
 
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Originally Posted by ~* White Chocolate *~
^ A dare is when someone says, 'Ok I dare you to go run topless outside in front of the neighbors house...' Juvenile stuff like that. Doesn't seem out of character for Lisa to have done something that stupid to something that supposedly meant so much to her. **rolls eyes** LMP and the rest of them can keep on with 'Oh he was an addict, yada yada yada...' but medical proof is undeniable! I knew, and it was reported, in '95 when he collapsed she was so convinced he was on drugs, but the tests SHOWED he wasn't. Yet she still carried on with that belief. Also, her and MJ being together while he was with Debbie, OLD NEWS...And nice one Lisa making yourself out to be "THE ONE" for Michael. Whatever. I don't even care what she had/has to say, and really at least she was being somewhat honest. Glad to see her say that she did in fact go on a vacation with her ex (which has also been info available prior to this interview), so yeah that puts MJ going off for a month in a WHOLE different light for all the LMP apologists. I'm done with her and with certain other individuals. I have medical facts and truth on my side as do all the other logically minded MJ admirers out there.

Oh! And before I forget, the whole 'I wish I would have just called him up...' I thought, "Um, after all the BS and hate you were spewing, after all the crap your mother was talking, you really think he'd want to talk to you? I know I wouldn.t' But whatever...

Unlike Lisa I was one of the many people who stood up for him and was there for him when he needed us, when he needed SOMEONE to stand by him and where was she and other so called "close relations"? She was busy being indifferent and being hateful in interviews and the others were acting as if they didn't know him.

Hope the guilt stays with her along with all the others who turned their backs on him. While she couldn't feel sympathy for Michael in his time of need...I can never feel sympathy for a spoiled brat like her. After all that Michael went through in Life...yeah...Karma is a Bitch.

I'm done...

**walks out of thread**
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AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN :clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

I agree with every single word of yours, I also want the guilt to eat her up alive. Call me whatever but her bitter and obnoxious so called ''indifferent'' behavior toward him which she displayed, for several years made me indifferent and numb toward HER pain. She couldn't feel his pain then, back when he was fighting his effing life, I can't feel her guilt ridden ass and so called ''pain'' now.
 
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terrell said:
Yes, ANd lets not forget the famous line back in 1984 "I do not want to take off my glasses", Yeah right. he knew his eyes drove us crazy. Look at his cove shots when his eyes only. MJ knew.
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Oh please! He didn't have me fooled. He may have had others. Michael and his hand/finger gesturing, hip gesturing, facial/lip expressions, gold pants and those gorgeous eyes. We all know what he was doing. LOL!!!

Michael wasn't one dimensional. I wish I had the pleasure of personally experieng that. He had a lot of interestimg layers. He had this romantic side and he was endearing, sweet, a gentleman and very kind. He was just being himself and that is what has us all so inlove with him then, now and forever.
 
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well thanks for posting part 1. Can't wait for part 2. I think I forgive Lisa now. A bit.
 
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Gaz said:
One question,

Why now, why not when he was with us.

She has to live with the guilt for the rest of her life.
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Totally agree people always tend to understand what they could have done and had when its all gone and to late .. sad.
 
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Gaz said:
One question,

Why now, why not when he was with us.

She will now have to live with the guilt for the rest of her life, as the one very person who would want to hear this is not here anymore.
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TurtleDove said:
...She said he cried when she told him she was "indifferent" to him. He'd asked her if she still loved him. Obviously, I think he was trying to tell her that he still loved her. Why do you ask someone that without some sort of hope for something more? There's no point.

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Sometimes you cry because you wanted it to work out. Sometimes you cry because the thought that love changes to indifference is hurtful. Sometimes you cry out of disappointment that things didn't work out. Sometimes you cry because you loved your image of what you thought you loved.

Sometimes you just plain cry. You can shed plenty of tears without wishing to get back into a particular relationship with that somebody.

Sometimes you heal your heart when you cry, not to achieve something. (and in the case of an artist- digging into your emotion sets forth creativity, that's how a good love song happens)

There can be plenty of reasons why someone cries. God knows I cried plenty of tears over a particular man- that doesn't mean I'd ever would want to be with him again. Ever.

If you ever truly loved someone, well, than you know.
 
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Many people felt guilty when Michael died for how they treated him and Lisa was one of them. I think this interview was more for herself than for Michael. I think to make herself feel better. It would have made a difference if she had talked about him this way when he was still here.
 
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...She said he cried when she told him she was "indifferent" to him. He'd asked her if she still loved him. Obviously, I think he was trying to tell her that he still loved her. Why do you ask someone that without some sort of hope for something more? There's no point.
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I think so too because there is no point to ask such question: Do you still love me?
WHY? Who cares if the person loves you or not if YOU closed your doors? Right? It just does not make any sense.
It is the same why would i ask my ex I feel "indifferent" to :D Do you still love me?
I would not care one bit lol
 
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Okay having seen the first part(thanx for uploading btw) I have to make some points:
-First off where Lisa says that she decided to do this "conversation" about Michael,because she won't talk about it again during her promotion of her album,tell me,how HYPOCRITICAL did that sound?that woman will always talk about Michael!Just admit that you're doing it for the money and fame,girl!
-Second,she used the phrase master of manupilating (the media,this time).I'm sorry but I can't find a positive meaning to this word.
-Third,what's with the clarity thing?she used that word like a hundred times,like she had an epiphany after Michae's death.I wish she had her eyes and heart opened while Michael was here.
-Fourth,when Oprah asked if she thought that she failed to help him and Lisa answered yes.Well,made me wonder who Lisa thinks she is anyways a savior or smth?We don't know if Michael actually asked anyone and especially her,for help!
-Finally,when Lisa talks about the 1995 collapse,she said that she suspected drug abuse cause doctors couldn't find what Michael had.That's ridiculous!In no way that means that he was abusing drugs.I suggest both these women to read the autopsy.Years of abusing drugs means damaged organs.Michael was in good shape.

Overall,same old Lisa & Oprah.And IMO Lisa doesn't look good at all.
I'll come back when part 2 is up.
L.O.V.E
 
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thank you for posting!! So far interesting, intrigued to see what is said in the next part(s)
 
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marebear said:
Many people felt guilty when Michael died for how they treated him and Lisa was one of them. I think this interview was more for herself than for Michael. I think to make herself feel better. It would have made a difference if she had talked about him this way when he was still here.
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I understand that people have different ways to make themselves feel better,especially in situations involving death,but I believe that if you want to feel better,then go visit a psychologist,not go to national TV and talk about it.
 
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Maybe he asked her if she still loved him because he was going through the trial at the time and was reaching out to people he thought loved him for support and encouragement. When she said she was indifferent that hurt him. Many people were turning their backs on him at this time. His lawyer said that too.
 
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Asedora said:
I think so too because there is no point to ask such question: Do you still love me?
WHY? Who cares if the person loves you or not if YOU closed your doors? Right? It just does not make any sense.
It is the same why would i ask my ex I feel "indifferent" to :D Do you still love me?
I would not care one bit lol
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That doesn't have to be true. You can still care/love for someone as a friend and her saying she was indifferent to him could still hurt him. If a friend would say that to you especially going to the trial he was going through it would hurt. Doesn't mean he was still in love with her.

Again I tend to believe Michael's own words on this issue and he was pretty clear about it.
 
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gaz said:
one question,

why now, why not when he was with us.

She will now have to live with the guilt for the rest of her life, as the one very person who would want to hear this is not here anymore.
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amen.
 
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sunshine12 said:
I understand that people have different ways to make themselves feel better,especially in situations involving death,but I believe that if you want to feel better,then go visit a psychologist,not go to national TV and talk about it.
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Lisa did a lot damaging things to Michael publically on national tv. She probably feels bad about that and maybe thinks this will help fix what she did in the past. Celebrities tend to reach out to talk shows and magazines etc to help themselves. Not everybody does that but some do.
 
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I fthink she feels a lot of it is guilt which is why she spoke now. She was so angry when he was alive, it was obvious she loved him a lot and the break up hurt her a lot. Trouble is a lot of people came out saying about all this stuff about how amazing he was after June but I ask where were those people before he died? People treated him like a joke and mocked him. They say death is the ultimate vindication and this has proved true in Michael's case. What I think? People didn't realise how good we had it with him being here. When he passed the world had to take a long hard look at what it lost and it was a loss that we will never be able to fill. Michael was special and the world treated him like crap. You don't know what you have until it's gone and with Michael this world didn't know what it had until he went.
 
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Sophielo said:
I fthink she feels a lot of it is guilt which is why she spoke now. She was so angry when he was alive, it was obvious she loved him a lot and the break up hurt her a lot. Trouble is a lot of people came out saying about all this stuff about how amazing he was after June but I ask where were those people before he died? People treated him like a joke and mocked him. They say death is the ultimate vindication and this has proved true in Michael's case. What I think? People didn't realise how good we had it with him being here. When he passed the world had to take a long hard look at what it lost and it was a loss that we will never be able to fill. Michael was special and the world treated him like crap. You don't know what you have until it's gone and with Michael this world didn't know what it had until he went.
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I couldn't say it better...
 
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Gaz said:
One question,

Why now, why not when he was with us.

She will now have to live with the guilt for the rest of her life, as the one very person who would want to hear this is not here anymore.
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i think shes a little crazy is why i mean we have no way to disprove what she said and the 10 or so mj lmp shippers who actually care eat it up but as far as im conserned anything she says now might be bs it might not be but the person it might have helped is gone so i dont feel anything but pitty for her i mean most of us here loved michael too in our own way but as i said ealier he cant hear it or maybe he can but the point is so moot now
 
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Sophielo said:
I fthink she feels a lot of it is guilt which is why she spoke now. She was so angry when he was alive, it was obvious she loved him a lot and the break up hurt her a lot. Trouble is a lot of people came out saying about all this stuff about how amazing he was after June but I ask where were those people before he died? People treated him like a joke and mocked him. They say death is the ultimate vindication and this has proved true in Michael's case. What I think? People didn't realise how good we had it with him being here. When he passed the world had to take a long hard look at what it lost and it was a loss that we will never be able to fill. Michael was special and the world treated him like crap. You don't know what you have until it's gone and with Michael this world didn't know what it had until he went.
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Very true.. but it seems that Harpo hates just this fact, the world loving Michael, Harpo despite of her multi billions of dollars, cheap housewife audience, own network and God knows what else Harpo stuff she's going on, couldn't destroy Michael Jackson despite trying so so hard in vain while he was alive, and still now. If this interview is any indication Harpo's interview with Katherine will go in just that direction. Michael the junkie is all jealous Harpo wants to talk about.
 
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xrisx said:
That doesn't have to be true. You can still care/love for someone as a friend and her saying she was indifferent to him could still hurt him. If a friend would say that to you especially going to the trial he was going through it would hurt. Doesn't mean he was still in love with her.

Again I tend to believe Michael's own words on this issue and he was pretty clear about it.
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The question he asked was in 2005. It could be AFTER the trial. I think this question is nothing to do with the trial persay.
 
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Gaz said:
One question,

Why now, why not when he was with us.

She will now have to live with the guilt for the rest of her life, as the one very person who would want to hear this is not here anymore.
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and that's what I've been asking myself all the time, too

And why is she telling now - she said she realized it now, oh dear... :(
 
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does any one have part 2 ? sucks living in west coast
 
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