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[Topflux]

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I wasn't aware of LMP publicly bashing Michael on tv in 2005...i always thought it was somewhere after HIStory, after their divorce. Are you sure she did this in 2005? Cause i highly doubt that....and neither do i remember that. It would be heartless as hell of her to even bash MJ more, when the media was already doing that 100%, especially at that time. So again....is this really true?

It is unfortunately very true. She was on Oprah in March of 2005. Don't remember the airdate, but it was definitely during the time Michael was going through that trial. Someone already posted the Youtube links in this thread if you're sure you wanna see all that bs... uke:



I can't help but wonder what you hear, when others hear Lisa saying e.g.:


"If he has his mind set on something, he'll be as normal as he needs to be"

(when asked if she thought he loved her) "It's hard for me to answer that question. I don't know the answer to that." --- "As much as he was capable of loving somebody..yes."

(when asked if she thought he used her) "All the signs point to yes on that"


If that's defending someone, I sure hope she never defends me!

When I talked about defending I meant the child molestation trial. Using Lisa is completely different and if she thought like that that's her opinion. Like I said Lisa thought many years Michael married her only and just only to have children even thou that wasn't the case. Lisa didn't know how Michael was into having own children when they married because Michael had said in the past he doesn't have to but he could just adopt.. Having or not having children was the one and only issue why they divorced. That happens all the time although usually it's because of women who want children like that. I understand why Lisa didn't want more children (adopted or whatever) because her two kids were really young and because it wasn't that long ago since she had divorced..

 

[Topflux]

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You have to understand Lisa has never been any kind of a pr person for Michael. So she can answer how she feels if something's asked. It's not inapproriate. Remember also, Lisa has never said anything (that people here take as negative) if not ASKED. If she wants to express her feelings and opinions on Michael, that's fully ok. It's also fair if the interviewer can ask anything he/she wants.

 

[januska]

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Excuse me, but how exactly did she defend him in regard of the child molestation trial???

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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you respect THIS? ha

Ok, now i've seen it all. I was never aware of this.....i had a hard time not trying to close this video, cause this bitch annoyed the hell out of me. In the second video, acting like the victim of past boyfriends...oh riiiiiiiiiiight..like you never did anything wrong, right? And don't even get me started on her mother. Secret agenda? This bitch really saying MIchael had a manipulative way of doing things? Oh jeez.....

F this woman, f them both. sorry.

 

[Topflux]

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Excuse me, but how exactly did she defend him in regard of the child molestation trial???

She said for example she didn't ever see anything that made her think he is a molester.

 

[StacyJ]

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she didn't defend him at all..

I don't know what LMP hopes to accomplish with this interview because whatever she has to say it doesn't matter because MJ is gone forever and won't be able to hear her so who exactly is she trying to talk to? I am confused...

 

[AllForLove]

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Really? 2009? Jesus...i never knew that, i am actually very surprised and didn't expect this. So her blog message wasn't THAT much from the heart after all. Hell...in that message she said their relationship was not a fluke, was very real and what not.

Is she Bipolar? Jesus....




A blessing? pardon-fucking me?!!!!! Are you serious? This woman clearly ain't right in the head if she says that.Something that has destroyed his life was a blessing? Oh my...nah, i don't have words for that, i don't know what to say. Again...how hypocrit and full of crap is that blog message....jeez.

Please, I'm really tired that what she said has been completely got out of context, so here is the whole conversation she had with Larry King, you can understand that what she said was not what you think, she did not want to say anything about Michael trial to fuel the medias - I'm not defending her, I'm indifferent about her but I can't stand how some can twist the words -

"KING: What do you make of the coverage of your ex-husband?

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: That I pretty much -- it's so delicate and it's such a hot stove that, you know, it's one of those things I'd love to chat with you about but anything you say at this point is going to add.

KING: Does it annoy you to see the focus on someone you cared about, probably still care about?

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: To be honest with you I'm kind of -- it's kind of a blessing this is happening in that I don't have to say anything right now, because there's a trial going on. You know it's...

KING: No, you don't have to -- I mean, emotionally though to see?

PRESLEY: Emotionally it's never easy to watch anybody go through, no matter what, you know, something really difficult.

KING: Because you've been a staunch defender of him, right?

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: Well, I'm not going to talk about it.
KING: I'm mean as a person and a husband -- we aren't dealing with the charges or anything, you have been...

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: I at one point was.

KING: A supporter? And now you're neutral?

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: I'm just benign really."​

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[terrell]

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Lisa did not 'bash' Michael anywhere ever. It's made up by MJ fans and the media she 'bashed' him. She was DEFENDING Michael, not bashing.------------- Let me guess, you are Priscilla in hiding. Please, she bash MJ even RF talked about this. Also, go back and listen to other interviews on the radio even Kiddlive show. MJ was NOT please in what she said in her Austraillian interview and I know that for a FACT MJ was mad. As Jermaine, said, why would she give the implications that Mj did something and that what she did until she was called on it.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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What is wrong with her though? She doesn't know that MJ fans always want to be well informed about things? She wrote that 'heartfelt' blog message, after saying all that negative shit in 2009...and now she's going to Oprah again, for more negativity or the completey opposite? What the hell is it Lisa, make up your goddamn mind.

 

[StacyJ]

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So she was 'benign' right? so if she was benign back then why isn't she benign now?

 

[Justice_MJ]

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What is wrong with her though? She doesn't know that MJ fans always want to be well informed about things? She wrote that 'heartfelt' blog message, after saying all that negative shit in 2009...and now she's going to Oprah again, for more negativity or the completey opposite? What the hell is it Lisa, make up your goddamn mind.

Nothing's wrong with her. What's wrong with some fans bashing a woman who helped the person you love the most going through dark times, who gave him a smile on his cute face and with who he experienced many beautiful and true things!?!!

Just stop taking her words out of the context or interpreting them the way you want to. That's the job of the media, isn't it?! She never said the trial was a blessing!

I'm very grateful toward Lisa for everything she did for MJ.

 

[love is magical]

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Please, I'm really tired that what she said has been completely got out of context, so here is the whole conversation she had with Larry King, you can understand that what she said was not what you think, she did not want to say anything about Michael trial to fuel the medias - I'm not defending her, I'm indifferent about her but I can't stand how some can twist the words -

"KING: What do you make of the coverage of your ex-husband?​

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: That I pretty much -- it's so delicate and it's such a hot stove that, you know, it's one of those things I'd love to chat with you about but anything you say at this point is going to add.​

KING: Does it annoy you to see the focus on someone you cared about, probably still care about?​

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: To be honest with you I'm kind of -- it's kind of a blessing this is happening in that I don't have to say anything right now, because there's a trial going on. You know it's...​

KING: No, you don't have to -- I mean, emotionally though to see?​

PRESLEY: Emotionally it's never easy to watch anybody go through, no matter what, you know, something really difficult.​

KING: Because you've been a staunch defender of him, right?​

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: Well, I'm not going to talk about it.
KING: I'm mean as a person and a husband -- we aren't dealing with the charges or anything, you have been...​

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: I at one point was.​

KING: A supporter? And now you're neutral?​

LISA MARIE PRESLEY: I'm just benign really."​

I don't understand why you claimed fans are twisting Lisa's words. No one here is making up stories about her. The video clips posted here are ACTUAL conversations.

Based on the actual transcript you posted, Lisa Marie Presley sounded cold and heartless. I don't see any hint of love and support. How was she defending Michael when she said "she's benign" when asked by Larry whether she's a supporter or not?

Give me a break. Although she didn't say anything harmful, her choice of words, her expression and her attitude were enough to deepen the already very negative media portrayal of Michael. I feel sad for all the emotional damage she caused to Michael and his family during that time.

The fact is that nobody in the entertainment industry wanted to be related to Michael Jackson during the trial from 2003 to 2005. It's not cool to be Michael's supporters during that time. Ms. Presley just followed whatever was popular during that time.

To make matter worse, Ms. Presley was "nice" and "smart" enough to use ambiguous words to cause media stir during a very delicate time.

And, to someone who said Ms. Presley was not the one who initiated the Michael Jackson questions and how she never talked about Michael if not asked. There is actually a very classy and easy way to respond, which is "No comments."

Again and again, I'm not "bashing" Ms. Presley. I have an open attiude in the upcomining interview. I feel the need to respond to people who deliberately white-wash what she did in 2005 to justify their Lisa Marie Presley devotions.

I wonder why they don't start their own Lisa Marie Presley Community, instead of posting hurtful remarks here.

 

[Topflux]

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Lisa did not 'bash' Michael anywhere ever. It's made up by MJ fans and the media she 'bashed' him. She was DEFENDING Michael, not bashing.------------- Let me guess, you are Priscilla in hiding. Please, she bash MJ even RF talked about this. Also, go back and listen to other interviews on the radio even Kiddlive show. MJ was NOT please in what she said in her Austraillian interview and I know that for a FACT MJ was mad. As Jermaine, said, why would she give the implications that Mj did something and that what she did until she was called on it.

I am not Priscilla even thou she liked Michael a lot. And I am not a Elvis fan either. I didn't really understand the part why everything should have pleased Michael if Lisa was not pleased with Michael in every issue. And Michael would have talked about Lisa later if just someone had asked something. But there were so much bigger things in Michael's life. But of course Michael didn't mind he didn't 'have to' talk about Lisa because he would have liked to talk about the music only. Michael's own actions (complete silence and leaving Lisa like she didn't know in the end what was their marriage all about) has made Lisa to talk about Michael. But that has happened many times with many people in Michael's life. He used to 'kick out' people from his life and leaving them in dubiety.

 

[ExoticPrincess]

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Lisa did not 'bash' Michael anywhere ever. It's made up by MJ fans and the media she 'bashed' him. She was DEFENDING Michael, not bashing.

:doh:

Are you for freakin' real????:smilerolleyes:

 

[love is magical]

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I am not Priscilla even thou she liked Michael a lot. And I am not a Elvis fan either. I didn't really understand the part why everything should have pleased Michael if Lisa was not pleased with Michael in every issue. And Michael would have talked about Lisa later if just someone had asked something. But there were so much bigger things in Michael's life. But of course Michael didn't mind he didn't 'have to' talk about Lisa because he would have liked to talk about the music only. Michael's own actions (complete silence and leaving Lisa like she didn't know in the end what was their marriage all about) has made Lisa to talk about Michael. But that has happened many times with many people in Michael's life. He used to 'kick out' people from his life and leaving them in dubiety.

Please do us a favor. Go start your own Lisa Marie Presley or the Presley Family Fan Club.

No one here is saying Michael Jackson was a perfect husband. According to you, just because Ms. Presley was not pleased of her marriage and she didn't have bigger thing to talk about in her life, that make it right for her to talk about her ex-husband in a negative manner whenever she was given a chance.

Your words are far from the truth. Now, I seriously doubt how much you know about Michael Jackson. Do you obtain your knowledge about Michael from tabloids?

 

[GinnyJackson]

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Like i said before its best all around to just block/ignore topflux... this person is only here to bait people and i dont want anyone else to fall for it.

 

[AllForLove]

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Please don't argue me - I'm not her attorney but I just want to put things to their right place. Does it mean that I ignored her all she said in the past ? No -

 

[love is magical]

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Like i said before its best all around to just block/ignore topflux... this person is only here to bait people and i dont want anyone else to fall for it.

Agree with you. I don't think I can deal with his/her biased postings anymore. It doesn't matter how many facts we posted here. Some people just refused to open their hearts and accept the truth.

Where is the ignore button?

 

[AngieJ]

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Please, she bash MJ even RF talked about this.

And? To be honest, what RF said about her Rolling Stone interview is tame compared to what he eventually said about some of MJ's own family's actions.

 

[Topflux]

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So she was 'benign' right? so if she was benign back then why isn't she benign now?

That's what I've tried to express. Because she is not really Michael's 'defender', it's better for her to appear neutrally like she has appeared, just answering honestly what she knows, what she feels and so on. That's what she's been doing. So you can take it actually partly defending and partly bashing even thou her intentions are neither one. And she doesn't want not to talk about Michael either because his memory will follow her through her life. It was much bigger part of life for her than it was for Michael and people are interested.. Also all the great times with Michael were so great you just can't forget something like that. She would of course talk mainly about her father but because she was only around 9 years old when he died and her childhood was even dozens of times bigger mess than her times with Michael, it keeps her talking about Michael who was one of the best times in her life so far.. You don't really understand her and probably ever will. I end this conversation from my part now.

 

[GinnyJackson]

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Agree with you. I don't think I can deal with his/her biased postings anymore. It doesn't matter how many facts we posted here. Some people just refused to open their hearts and accept the truth.

Where is the ignore button?

lol highlight and copy his/her name then go to user CP and on the side there is a list and there is one called Ignore List. click that and past his name there and badaboom hes iggied.

 

[Topflux]

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Like i said before its best all around to just block/ignore topflux... this person is only here to bait people and i dont want anyone else to fall for it.

I am just having a conversation. And I really understand MJ fans take some of Lisa's words 'bashing' and are so aware of her because I know from the past how fans overreact. I really don't have any hard feelings towards anyone. I'm simply not like that. If you don't accept my views, I understand even thou I don't agree with everything. I am sorry if I have made someone mad but that's not my intention and I'm definitely not baiting anyone. I leave now for some time. There are much more important things in Michael's world than Lisa Marie Presley.

 

[love is magical]

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lol highlight and copy his/her name then go to user CP and on the side there is a list and there is one called Ignore List. click that and past his name there and badaboom hes iggied.

Thank you so much.

I'm all for open discussion. But, deliberate attempts to bring down Michael and white-wash the past are simply not right.

For my own sanity purpose, I need to ignore certain postings.

I have never seen a person who changed opinion within minutes.

One post, he/she said Ms. Presley was defending Michael.

Another post, he/she said Ms. Presley wanted to be neutural.

One post, he/she said Ms. Presley never talked about Michael unless being asked and that she's not pleased with her marriage.

Another post, he/she said Ms. Presley had the best time of her life with Michael and she loved to talk about her time with Michael.

So, WHAT IS IT?????

Oh boy... I'm tired in responding.

 

[StacyJ]

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wow.. after seeing those interviews again, it's just quite sad that she's even speaking to Oprah.

 

[StacyJ]

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Wow... after seeing those interviews again, why the hell does she want to talk to Oprah now? Geez... she was brutal and cruel, and Mike ( God Bless his soul) never responded or uttered one word back to her..

I would've cussed her butt out if she would've raked me over the coals like that. Mike was good man..

 

[Topflux]

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Thank you so much.

I'm all for open discussion. But, deliberate attempts to bring down Michael and white-wash the past are simply not right.

For my own sanity purpose, I need to ignore certain postings.

I have never seen a person who changed opinion within minutes.

One post, he/she said Ms. Presley was defending Michael.

Another post, he/she said Ms. Presley wanted to be neutural.

One post, he/she said Ms. Presley never talked about Michael unless being asked and that she's not pleased with her marriage.

Another post, he/she said Ms. Presley had the best time of her life with Michael and she loved to talk about her time with Michael.

So, WHAT IS IT?????

Oh boy... I'm tired in responding.

I answer still this one post.

It is neutral if you defend but also at the same time or later criticize what has happened. So Lisa is being objective based on the subjective experiences. How well one is able to do that in every moment is another issue.

I didn't say Lisa has LOVED to talk about Michael in public and I meant she didn't start a conversation about Michael herself. If someone doesn't want to ask about Michael she won't talk. But it's fair to ask about Michael if the interviewer wants to. It's open and fair. It's also fair to express your feeling in your answer just how it is.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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Nothing's wrong with her. What's wrong with some fans bashing a woman who helped the person you love the most going through dark times, who gave him a smile on his cute face and with who he experienced many beautiful and true things!?!!

Just stop taking her words out of the context or interpreting them the way you want to. That's the job of the media, isn't it?! She never said the trial was a blessing!

I'm very grateful toward Lisa for everything she did for MJ.

I'm not taking anything out of context really, i watched that Oprah interview, i watched her tell all about their personal life, laugh about things as if it was funny, one big comedy show. Then later on on, even her mother starts to talk more and more shit about Michael, about his own secret agenda, his manipulative ways, oh please...could this interview have gotten more anti-men but especially more anti-MJ? The stupid crowd (which let's face it..is full of housewives who haven't got shit to do, other than sit around and complain, nag and nag...and laugh about stuff that you should not laugh about) laughed at ridiculous stuff and they obviously weren't interested in any positive talk about Michael.

Then let's take LMP's blog message last year, after Michael's passing, compare that to her negativity towards MJ in all those talk show interviews, something ain't right about that. So there definitely IS something wrong with her, i'm sorry. Just my opinion. I wasn't talking about the 'Blessing' thing, i was talking about her appearances on Diane Sawyer, on Oprah, etc. Those things weren't nessecary, and nothing to smile about. Yeah, she was free to answer questions about Michael, at the same time she could have said 'Sorry Oprah/Diane/insert stupid sensational talk show host, i rather not talk about my personal things' but instead she told it all, not really classy now, is it?

 

[GinnyJackson]

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Oh this woman and Oprah are a great pair. both two faced whores who would do anything for attention and ratings. I have heard of the things she has said in the past and to think that she even remotely loves him in any way shape or form is completely unbelievable.


When you think of the interviews she has giving and things she has told. Michael would be RED in the face. It is clear she doesn't care or never cared for Michael at all. Michael was a privet man who would rather turn to goo rather then have everyone in the world know his sex life. But she has diarrhea of the mouth that even Kaopectate cant fix.

To protect this woman and defend her to me is something that is just not right. Its right up there with puttin peanut butter on a pickle it just dont work.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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I think it was on the later Diane Sawyer interview (what a huge bitch, i'm sorry...but there's no other word for her) that Lisa said how Michael would simply leave the house and not say anything, be gone for days, and how this went on and on. That they never lived together and what not. True or not true, nobody is perfect, and everybody has their own problems, but WHY oh why tell this on tv?

 

[aliana101]

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How can some say Lisa never bashed Michael? It's on a video. lol!!! Several videos actually.