Lloyd's refuse to pay insurance policy for This is It/ MJ Estate fights back/ Update: Case Settled

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Personally i dont see how llyods wont win this. murray blatentky with held info the email with the insurance broker and murrays own admittance show that
 
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The homicidal maniac Conrad Murray alone is responsible for his own untruthfulness.
The owners of Lloyds of London know they will have to pay money out to the Michael Jackson Estate.

Like all insurance companies they are just trying to get out of paying the full amount due.
I pray Michael's children recover the full insurance amount due them.
 
Re: Lloyd's of London refuse to pay insurance policy for This is It/ MJ Estate fights back

The homicidal maniac Conrad Murray alone is responsible for his own untruthfulness.
The owners of Lloyds of London know they will have to pay money out to the Michael Jackson Estate.

Like all insurance companies they are just trying to get out of paying the full amount due.
I pray Michael's children recover the full insurance amount due them.

Cherubim that is interesting. I wonder if they can make a claim that it was the dr who did not provide the information, and that Michael expected his dr to follow through with requests? I am very interested in how this case will unfold.
 
London insurers to see Jackson medical records

LOS ANGELES — Insurers for Michael Jackson's ill-fated London comeback shows can study some of the star's medical records, a US judge has said in a ruling that could affect a payout over his death.

Lawyers for the King of Pop's estate will get access to the records from medical providers and can show them to lawyers from Lloyd's of London, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Malcolm Mackey ruled.

Lloyd's, which is resisting paying out on a $17.5 million policy because it did not know that Jackson was taking drugs before his death more than two years ago at the age of 50, filed suit against tour promoter AEG in June.

Attorneys for the Jackson estate and for Lloyd's will both decide which of the medical records are relevant to the case and ask Mackey to mediate in any dispute.

The legal move came days after Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray was jailed for the maximum four years following his conviction for involuntary manslaughter. He is expected to serve less than half the sentence due to California laws linked to overcrowding and budget concerns.

A six-week trial heard evidence from a number of witnesses about the various drugs Jackson was allegedly taking at least in the months before he died, including the anesthetic propofol.

Jackson died on June 25, 2009 from an overdose of propofol and other sedatives, administered by Murray in an attempt to help the star sleep while in Los Angeles, where he was rehearsing for his "This is It" comeback tour.

The trial also heard claims that Jackson, battling to resurrect his career from child molestation charges that left him with huge financial debts, stood to make $100 million from the 50 planned concerts.

Lloyd's wants Mackey to rule that it does not have to pay out on the AEG insurance policy because it was not told about Jackson's drug problems when the contract was signed.

Lloyd's attorney Paul Schreiffer said Jackson waived any privacy rights he might have asserted before he died by signing an agreement for his medical records to be produced for the company.

Schrieffer said the ruling should help move the case forward, adding that Lloyd's has sought the medical information for more than two years.

Lloyd's issued subpoenas for the records on July 12, including two directed at Beverly Hills dermatologist Dr Arnold Klein and Dr Allan Metzger, who accompanied Jackson on a tour in the 1990s.

The Lloyd's lawsuit against AEG claims the promoter did not tell the insurer about the singer's medical history, "including, but not limited to, his apparent prescription drug use and/or drug addiction."

The company also alleges AEG did not disclose the star's use of propofol.

"There is evidence to suggest that Michael Jackson had a history of narcotic use, including but not limited to Demerol and propofol, the use of which may have resulted in his death, the Lloyd's court papers say.

"Dr Klein was a (dermatologist) for Michael Jackson who administered Demerol to Jackson reportedly on a regular basis."

The trial heard how Jackson would emerge from Dr Klein's office drowsy and slurring his speech. In a chilling audio recording played in court the star was barely comprehensible, talking about his hopes for the London shows.

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Re: Lloyd's of London refuse to pay insurance policy for This is It/ MJ Estate fights back

I got around 1,000 pages of documents in this lawsuit. I'll post updates as I'm able to read them. But overall they seem terrible. Every document that Lloyds and underwrites filed says Michael was an addict, incapable and so on.

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A discovery. I started a separate discussion thread for the below at http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/threads/120337-Dr.-Slavit-s-Examination-of-Michael

The below screenshot is from a court filing in Lloyds - AEG / MJ Estate lawsuit.

It's filed by Lloyds as "February 4, 2009 Michael Jackson authorization executed by Michael Jackson for the release of his medical records".


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Let's try to read it correct me if I'm wrong

General appearance : healthy
Temperature : 98 F
blood pressure : 110/65
Cardiovascular : normal sinus rhythm / no murmurs

Height : 5 ' 9"
Pulse : 48
Respiratory : 16 Lungs clear / no wheeze

Weight: 127
Ears : normal
Nose: septum midline minor congestion
Throat: normal cords
Abdominal: soft -nontender
 
Re: Lloyd's of London refuse to pay insurance policy for This is It/ MJ Estate fights back

Ivy thx. I for one do not have much info on this matter at all and im depended on your and others posts. SO thx for all of this..

Maybe stupid question but if they dont have to pay aeg the 17 mil will that influence the highed of the amount CM has to pay the family? Because of aeg then not pay much or etc? Sorry confusing subject this is to me
 
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Wow his pulse was only 48? He really was healthier than most men his age, a pulse that low is in elite athlete territory!

Looks like they're pulling typical insurance company behavior, it's no wonder why everyone hates their insurance companies :fencing
 
Updates about Lloyds - AEG / MJ Estate (third party) lawsuit


- The $17.5 Million policy had a premium that was close to $500,000 - AEG says they paid the premium.
- Lloyds sent subpoena to 21 people / entities asking for any/ all documents related to Micheal for the last 4 years (2004-2009). These include:
--- a medical center in Santa Maria (reportedly a branch of UCLA)
--- medical board of California
--- LA Coroner
--- LA fire department
--- Mickey Fine pharmacy
--- multiple labs that has done blood tests for Michael's doctors
--- Dr. Arnold Klein
--- Nurse Cheryln Lee
--- Dr. Edward Kantor
--- Dr. Allan Metzger
--- Insurance broker Bob Taylor
--- Michael's previous attorney Dennis Hawk
--- Karen Faye

They also send depositions to Dr. Edward Kantor, Dr. Allan Metzger, Dr. Arnold Klein, Nurse Cheryln Lee, MJ's old Lawyer Dennis Hawk, AEG's lawyer Kathy Jorrie and Karen Faye.

Lloyds argue that nothing about Michael’s medical records is private anymore. To quote them “Media coverage relating to these records and Jackson’s history of narcotic use , including but not limited to Demerol and Propofol, the use of which may have resulted in his death, have been disseminated globally, rendering any privacy concerns entirely moot. The horse is clearly out of the barn.”

Some insurance companies (not Lloyds) that covered parts of the insurance policy are trying to join Lloyd’s complaint to not pay the insurance policy. AEG/ MJ Estate is arguing that they filed their request too late.

Lloyds information and document requests from AEG seems to be endless. They include
- They want to depose the person that’s most knowledgeable about the insurance policy
- Ask if AEG assigned their rights on the insurance policy to MJ Estate
- Want any documents between AEG and MJ Estate in regards to the insurance policy
- They want to know everything about AEG- Murray agreement and the orders given to Kathy Jorrie.
- Ask if AEG told MJ not to see Klein
- Ask if AEG complained Michael about not attending rehearsals
- Ask if AEG ordered Murray not to treat Michael or if they have him any instructions
- Ask about the medical equipment Murray asked and AEG’s plans in regards to them such as if/when they would provide them
- Ask if AEG knew Murray was giving Propofol, Lorazepam, Midazolam and so on to Michael
- Want any and all medical records including autopsy pictures
- Want hair samples taken from MJ
- Want the Jackson family second autopsy report
- Want everything in regards to Dr.Slavit’s medical examination of Michael in February 2009
- Want documents, communications between AEG and Murray
- Want any medical records of Murray
- Want any documents about compensation of Murray
- Want to know about AEG’s meeting with Michael including meetings at Carolwood
- Want to know any communications with AEG and Tohme
- Want to know all the efforts of AEG concerning Murray such as housing for him in London, medical license, medical malpractice insurance and so on
- Want AEG’s contracts with all the people worked at TII
- Want cost , revenue expectations and all finances for TII
- Want rental agreement for Michael in UK
- Want any and all rehearsal footage of TII

Personally to me at times Lloyds requests seem to be overkill and irrelevant. This is an insurance case that Lloyds is requesting not to pay the $17.5 million insurance policy claiming that Michael’s medical history wasn’t disclosed to them and Michael’s death was homicide and not accident. I fail to see why rental houses AEG was getting for Michael and Murray is relevant for example.

Some requests of Lloyds from AEG is also seem to be impossible for AEG to do. For example
- Lloyds twice (December 2009 and October 2010) asked AEG to provide them the second autopsy done by the Jackson family. Knowing that KJ is suing AEG, it’s unlikely that she provided them a copy.
- Lloyds again twice asked AEG to provide them samples of Michael’s blood and hair. I would say it’s unlikely that AEG would have such stuff in their possession.
- Lloyds again twice asked for Murray’s medical records of Michael. We know that there are no recent medical records kept by Murray.
- And most funnily Lloyds has asked AEG twice (December 2009 and October 2010) to make Conrad Murray available for interview or examination under oath. They also asked them to make Tohme available. These people are not employees of AEG.

From documents we can also see that Lloyds claims include
- Michael had physical, psychological and medical problems and AEG knew or should have known it.
- Murray was hired to medicate Michael or AEG should have known that was the case.
- AEG’s loss from cancellation of TII is less than $17.5 Million

Lloyds also question if AEG knew or thought the reason for Michael missing the rehearsals was due to drugs.
 
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Thanks ivy. seems like scare tactics.as u say its total overkill as much of it is irrelevent and AEG cant provide the info even if they wanted to. i think llyods are just hoping the estate back down cause of concerns for mjs privacy
 
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I kind of agree with Lloyd's in regards as to what AEG thought Murray was going to be doing. This 'doctor' was willing to give up 3 medical practices for $150,000 per month. Why did he want so much money? Did AEG ever question what 'treatments' he would be giving MJ?
 
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He had two practices. And what a doctor does with there patent is private
 
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I kind of agree with Lloyd's in regards as to what AEG thought Murray was going to be doing. This 'doctor' was willing to give up 3 medical practices for $150,000 per month. Why did he want so much money? Did AEG ever question what 'treatments' he would be giving MJ?

I don't think that's a relevant question for lloyds- AEG case (It's a more relevant question for Katherine Jackson - AEG lawsuit).

I was looking over the documents and in one place lloyds is arguing that one party to the insurance was Michael Jackson and he definitely knew his medical history and withheld information.
 
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Was there actually a second autopsy done at the Jackson family's request? All I remember is a few mentions about it in the media. Then there was nothing more said about it that I know of.

And another thing. What about that physical examination that Michael supposedly had to pass before the policy would even be considered? Judging by the way I'm reading this, and I could be wrong, it sounds to me like the insurance company are basically claiming they knew absolutely nothing that they needed to know about Michael in order to give him a policy to begin with. I don't understand this. This is all just my opinion.
 
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I kind of agree with Lloyd's in regards as to what AEG thought Murray was going to be doing. This 'doctor' was willing to give up 3 medical practices for $150,000 per month. Why did he want so much money? Did AEG ever question what 'treatments' he would be giving MJ?
Your question was answered in the testimony from his trial
 
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Was there actually a second autopsy done at the Jackson family's request? All I remember is a few mentions about it in the media. Then there was nothing more said about it that I know of.

I believe Oxman said the results were the same to a tabloid. That's all we know of the details but yes there seems to be another autopsy done

And another thing. What about that physical examination that Michael supposedly had to pass before the policy would even be considered? Judging by the way I'm reading this, and I could be wrong, it sounds to me like the insurance company are basically claiming they knew absolutely nothing that they needed to know about Michael in order to give him a policy to begin with. I don't understand this. This is all just my opinion.

this was a cancellation policy that was supposed to cover everything from accident to sickness to natural disasters and so on. In February 2009 Michael saw Dr. Slavit for a very basic check up (see above) + blood tests. Lloyds insured Michael for accident only based on it.

The second check up is real and actually there are a bunch of emails about that. It was going to happen in London on July 6 at a doctors office. AEG was wanting it to be done at home and Murray was wanting to be present at it. The insurers was rejecting that saying that Michael had to go to the doctors and spend more than 2 hours with all the required check-ups. They also required 5 year medical history of Michael and when Michael died they were still back and forth with it - Lloyds reminding them of sending the 5 year medical history, AEG lawyer sending the forms to Michael's house asking Murray to fill them, reportedly Michael saying he only saw his dermatologist. Only after these the policy would have been complete and covering everything.

However AEG argues that Michael's death is accident and not foreseeable therefore the insurance should pay.
 
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Actually let me post the second medical information as well.

June 22 email from insurance firm to broker

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June 24 email from insurance firm to broker

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June 24 email from broker to AEG and Murray

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then Paul Gongaware responds it has to be done at MJ's house, The broker responds back to him at the insurance firm won't accept that and it has to be at the doctors office. the last email is sent from the broker to AEG / Murray on midnight of June 24 / June 25 asking them confirm the July 6 afternoon for the second medical.
 
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AEG has recently filed for a request for stay in the Lloyd's lawsuit. They say as they are defending themselves in wrongful death lawsuits against Katherine and Joe Jackson they would be prejudiced. They are asking for a stay in this lawsuit until KJ- AEG and JJ-Murray & AEG lawsuits are over.
 
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Thanks. do u know when this might be heard
 
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Early January. Decision should be soon after.

01/05/2012 at 08:31 am in department 55 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion (TO STAY PENDING ACTION AND FORPROTECTIVE ORDER; CASE MANAGEMENTCONFERENCE)
 
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Thanks for the update Ivy.
 
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Dr Murray knew what he was giving MJ was making him sick.. That is why he never responded or never gave the insurer the 5 year medical history. Also if MJ was planning on having another physical in London, why in the world was Murray still giving MJ benzos and propofol? None of this makes sense to me. Someone should've been getting MJ the proper help.
 
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Thanks
 
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I don't know all the details from the insurance policy, but to my knowledge there wasn't one yet, because Lloyd's demands weren't followed yet. They would only judge on giving it after those medical tests that were supposed to happen in July, or am I wrong?
But if that is the case, I see no reason why AEG should receive any money and they know it.
 
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I don't know all the details from the insurance policy, but to my knowledge there wasn't one yet, because Lloyd's demands weren't followed yet. They would only judge on giving it after those medical tests that were supposed to happen in July, or am I wrong?
But if that is the case, I see no reason why AEG should receive any money and they know it.

the insurance policy was partially in place , it was covering "accident".
for the rest - illness and such- it needed a second health screening.

AEG demands to be paid because they classify Michael's death as "accident" caused by Murray and not foreseeable event.
Lloyds claims the insurance - even the accident part - should be voided Michael didn't tell them about his Propofol use and that's withholding information and the insurance policy says it doesn't cover preexisting conditions.

So this lawsuit has 2 elements

1. Is the insurance policy valid? Did Michael (and AEG) withheld health information?
2. What is the nature of Michael's death? Accident or a foreseeable event?
 
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the insurance policy was partially in place , it was covering "accident".
for the rest - illness and such- it needed a second health screening.

AEG demands to be paid because they classify Michael's death as "accident" caused by Murray and not foreseeable event.
Lloyds claims the insurance - even the accident part - should be voided Michael didn't tell them about his Propofol use and that's withholding information and the insurance policy says it doesn't cover preexisting conditions.

So this lawsuit has 2 elements

1. Is the insurance policy valid? Did Michael (and AEG) withheld health information?
2. What is the nature of Michael's death? Accident or a foreseeable event?

Thanks for explaining, insuranceterms are hard enough to understand in Dutch, so English is even harder.
I don't know how the terms of assurance in America, but I know that there's an article in the general conditions and that goes for all kinds of assurance, that if you withhold important information (information that would've caused the assurancecompany to not accept you as an insured or with different conditions) the insurancecompany has the right to void/nullify the insurance. As if there never was an insurance. So that alone is enough to not cover the costs.

And even if they were aware of everything, we have to know what's the insurancecompany's definition of 'accident'. I cannot find the definition of Lloyd's online. Not everything is an accident in assuranceterms. The dutch description is: A sudden, unexpected event, working in on the body from the outside with force, independently of what the insured wants.(translated it to the best of my knowledge). A simple example: a man is driving in his car, has a heartattack and has an accident. We would think the insurancecompany has to pay, but they don't. The cause comes from inside the body (heartattack), so no payment, even though it was unforeseeable.

The 'accident' part is argueable IMO, but I don't think that matters anymore, because the basic of insurance is that you have an agreement and there never was an agreement to begin with, because the insurancecompany wasn't aware of all the information that was important for them to estimate the risk (insurancewise) they took with accepting Michael as an insured. They have every right to declare the policy void or nullify it.

Could be very interesting to see how this works out.
 
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I get the feeling this will be put on hold again while the AEG lawsuit takes place in 2012.
 
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Thanks for explaining, insuranceterms are hard enough to understand in Dutch, so English is even harder.
I don't know how the terms of assurance in America, but I know that there's an article in the general conditions and that goes for all kinds of assurance, that if you withhold important information (information that would've caused the assurancecompany to not accept you as an insured or with different conditions) the insurancecompany has the right to void/nullify the insurance. As if there never was an insurance. So that alone is enough to not cover the costs.

you are right. That's exactly one of the arguments they mention in the court documents.

They had asked for 5 year medical history and it wasn't given to them by the time of Michael's death. Opposite side can argue that as the "accident" portion was active those didn't matter.

The policy also states that it didn't cover pre-existing conditions and there's a mention in emails saying that Michael only saw a dermatologist. They now claim this is a lie and even though AEG might not know other doctors and Propofol, Michael did know it.

And even if they were aware of everything, we have to know what's the insurancecompany's definition of 'accident'. I cannot find the definition of Lloyd's online. Not everything is an accident in assuranceterms. The dutch description is: A sudden, unexpected event, working in on the body from the outside with force, independently of what the insured wants.(translated it to the best of my knowledge). A simple example: a man is driving in his car, has a heartattack and has an accident. We would think the insurancecompany has to pay, but they don't. The cause comes from inside the body (heartattack), so no payment, even though it was unforeseeable.

The 'accident' part is argueable IMO, but I don't think that matters anymore, because the basic of insurance is that you have an agreement and there never was an agreement to begin with, because the insurancecompany wasn't aware of all the information that was important for them to estimate the risk (insurancewise) they took with accepting Michael as an insured. They have every right to declare the policy void or nullify it.

Could be very interesting to see how this works out.

accident isn't clearly defined. AEG says it's an accident because it wasn't foreseeable , Lloyds claims it was homicide, AEG says it's still an accident because Involuntary manslaughter doesn't have intent and it's Murray's mistake and not something Michael intended and so on. That's a whole separate debate.

In the lawsuit I expect these two questions to be examined in depth. It would be interesting.
 
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Judge issues favorable ruling for insurers of Jackson's ill-fated tour

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Story Created: Jan 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM PST


The insurers of Michael Jackson's attempted comeback concerts won a round in court Thursday when a judge said the company can begin collecting information from the promoters of the singer's attempted 2009 comeback tour.

Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Malcolm Mackey denied a motion by AEG Live asking that a lawsuit by Lloyd's of London be put on hold until two other legal actions by the mother and father of the late singer concerning his death are concluded.

Mackey also said he will delay setting a trial date and appoint an evidence referee to make recommendations to him in case any disputes arise between the two sides in exchanging information.

"I know this is a multi-faceted case and I think that somewhere it's going to settle way down the line," Mackey said. "For what, I don't know."

Attorney Paul Schrieffer, on behalf of Lloyd's, criticized AEG Live's motion. He said his clients have waited for more than two years to get the documents they need and that any such motion should have been brought months earlier.

"Now they have the epiphany to come into this court and ask for a stay in this case," he said.

After the hearing, Schrieffer said he was pleased that the motion was denied. He also said he would be agreeable to the cases by Katherine and Joe Jackson being tried ahead of the Lloyd's case so long as his clients continue to get their information from AEG Live.

Lloyd's filed suit against AEG Live and the Michael Jackson Co. LLC last June. Lloyd's wants a judge to declare it does not have to pay AEG's $17.5 million policy on grounds the insurers were not told the singer was taking drugs before he died of a drug overdose on June 25, 2009, at age 50.

The Lloyd's lawsuit against AEG claims the company did not tell the insurer about the singer's medical history, "including, but not limited to, his apparent prescription drug use and/or drug addiction." The company also alleges AEG did not disclose the star's use of propofol, a powerful anesthetic normally used in a hospital setting.

The late pop star's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, was convicted of involuntary manslaughter last year in the death of Jackson, who died of acute propofol intoxication. The physician was sentenced to four years in prison, but is expected to spend about half that time behind bars.

Murray administered the final dose to Jackson at his rented mansion to help him sleep, then failed to monitor the singer, according to trial testimony.

Lloyd's was never told that the singer was missing rehearsals and appearing at meetings with slurred speech after visiting the office of Dr. Arnold Klein, the singer's dermatologist, according to the Lloyd's attorneys' court documents.

Up until the last day of Jackson's life, Lloyd's executives were asking for Jackson's medical information from AEG Live's lawyer, who in turn was passing those requests to Murray, according to the Lloyd's attorneys' court papers.

In their suits, Katherine Jackson is suing AEG Live for the alleged negligent hiring of Murray. The case is scheduled for trial in September.

Joe Jackson's complaint names both Murray and AEG Live. No trial date is set.

Attorney Marvin Putnam, on behalf of AEG Live, said the company is not interested in settling either case.

"These are just shakedowns of my clients," he said.

http://www.wavenewspapers.com/enter...rers-of-Jacksons-comeback-tour-136754403.html
 
Re: Lloyd's of London refuse to pay insurance policy for This is It/ MJ Estate fights back

Thanks. do they can collect info but the judge is delaying setting a trial date until later? its like the judge has refused the motion but wants the case settled so is hanging off setting a date. will any info llyods get end up with katherines lawyer by accident or will they have such info anyway
 
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Mackey also said he will delay setting a trial date and appoint an evidence referee to make recommendations to him in case any disputes arise between the two sides in exchanging information.

"I know this is a multi-faceted case and I think that somewhere it's going to settle way down the line," Mackey said. "For what, I don't know."

After the hearing, Schrieffer said he was pleased that the motion was denied. He also said he would be agreeable to the cases by Katherine and Joe Jackson being tried ahead of the Lloyd's case so long as his clients continue to get their information from AEG Live.

Attorney Marvin Putnam, on behalf of AEG Live, said the company is not interested in settling either case.

"These are just shakedowns of my clients," he said.

http://www.wavenewspapers.com/enter...rers-of-Jacksons-comeback-tour-136754403.html

I don't think this is that favorable. Apparently they will continue information exchange but delay the trial. It seems like some information will be classified as confidential as well.
 
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