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La Toya releases new book and single / Summary @ Pg 30 / Pictures @ Pg 33

I just posted a review on Amazon. If you have the time please vote it as helpful by clicking yes :)
 
Ivy, will do. I read your review, and it's very informative. For sure it will be useful to many.
 
Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day

Rhilo said:
Latoya is lying. Did she forget that the memorial happened nearly two weeks after he passed away? Has she forgotten Paris' impromptu speech and tears, which was witnessed by the whole world?

And what about this picture? I don't want to post it out of respect for Michael and his kids, but you can access it here --> http://www.x17online.com/celebritie...ying_after_final_farewell_to_dad-07062009.php

This picture speaks a thousand words, all deeper than Latoya's shallow lame comments. Please Latoya, STOP! Stop implying the kids are over him, stop implying they are leading better lives without him. Just stop.
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THANK YOU!! I'm sorry, but I've said it once and I'll say it again, she's a B**** for that! Just because YOUR life sucks LaToya, and you were jealous of Michael's parenting abilities and fame, stop trying to give your family and your mother credit for how well-behaved MJ's kids are, it has NADA to do with y'all crazy asses! Furthermore, Katherine admitted these kids don't talk to her about how they feel, and I'm sure we know why, they probably are telling these kids to stop talking about their father unless a check is involed i.e. Oprah, GMA...pathetic sonsofa***** But I admire Paris for wearing and representing for her father every chance she gets, via her shirts, or some of her Twitter postings, some of the things she says, you can almost hear MJ say :) Say what you want about the Cascios, but I hope they stay in these kids life, since they have been there since they were born, and know these children...Found it interesting at the time, when Frank was asked on "Life After MJ" about the kids guarding themselves against people taking advantage of them, Frank replied "Prince is very smart, he know's what's going on" he had that smug look, like "yeah, Prince knows the deal with his "family".
 
ivy said:
yeah at my lunch break. told them my BF got it as present and I wanted to exchange it. so return wasn't a problem as I didn't ask for money back. Got a Sudoku book instead.







Taaj Malik and her minions. First they said I added my interpretation on the summary. and I was supporting Sony/ AEG/ Branca. I said I had 4-5 notes overall and wrote every negative thing Latoya said about everyone and that's true. Now they are accusing me of putting the summary on Amazon with "don't buy" so that the book won't sell.
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Thanks for that summary Ivy! :)
Tell Taaj and her minions to figuratively go f*** themselves and shove that fake HTWF where the sun doesn't shine!!! If I've EVER seen a mangy dog, she is one, a blood sucking leech, hanging on to others coattails...and that goes for the so-called "magician" Majestic:mat:
 
Thanks for the summary Ivy! And your great work in general.

The best summary of the summary is:

Justthefacts;3415712 said:
“…Latoya were you there? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm NO”
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XD

If however I was not going to buy it: Today less. More of the same: Many words in the style of gossip, and no real proof. But this is worse. She acknowledges that not seen or talked to him constantly. She bases some of her assertions on what third parties told her. I'm already tired of That.


About notes and photocopies etc. In my humble opinion, if you have something in your hands that may be evidence of the guilt of someone committing a crime, just do not go and deliveries to the probable culprit. This is absurd. I have had them delivered to the authority. Besides the fact that as you say, we saw some notes from Michael published in the press, saying totally different things.


On the financial statements provided by the Estate to court, Even I have seen them! And I do not even live in the U.S.A. This is obviously absurd.

Though actually (in my opinion) I do not think they say such things out of ignorance. They have many years working in the entertainment industry should be very familiar with such details of money Is not it? I really believe that say these things so intentionally: Looking fool the fans. Well, this is a personal opinion that I base that really seems incredible to think that they do not know how to make a financial statement, or interpret a financial statement in order to know the utility. Really, think of ignorance "pure" seems absurd to me. But this is in my opinion. If it is really ignorance on their part ...It is also absurd!


About the book: Really had to sign as co-author Karen Faye. Many of us witnessed what for almost two years, she has been writing... And yes, I am also tired of her foolishness and her insults to some of us.


On the comments about you from Mrs. Malik. I will say is: It does not matter.

We know that she is a compulsive liar, a person who only knows how to ask for money to other fans with any pretext, oh yes, and that seems to serve as a spokesperson for Joe, Randall, Melissa Johnson, etc. and now the proud daughter of Joe. (Because one day LaToya wrote in Twitter be very proud of being the daughter of Joe).


Mrs. Malik and "her minions" look like a bad penny... And that's exactly what it looks like the book of La Toya


Ivy we know well who you are, and we know well your job. So really, what that woman "and her minions" says... Do not care!


And I also can tell you, one more time Thanks! :)


P.D. I can not write reviews on Amazon since I have not bought products there (And of course, I have not bought this book). But if I could, it would be to support those who have written negative reviews. I'm really tired of the gossip without proof.

P. S. 2 I hope you understand my bad English. :S
 
bluetopez said:
Ugh Taaj Malik. The women who didn't even think MJ was innocent back in 05. She needs to sit her @ss down. I guess she saw the light on June 25th, like many others former haterz who jumped on the band wagon. WHAT EVER!
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exactly.shes so far up randy ass she cant see the wood for the trees.another sad little hanger oner.who jumped on the bandwagon post 09 where was she b4. Yeah hating on mj.fake ass f***
 
Her tweets

latoyajackson La Toya Jackson
Starting over on June 21st wasn't about a new book or EP, it's about change! Let's make STARTING OVER a new movement!
2 minutes ago

latoyajackson La Toya Jackson
Please!! I beg everything to please free the world of all it misery! We don't have to live in pain, WE, can make a change!
3 minutes ago

latoyajackson La Toya Jackson
If you know of anyone who needs to start over, please help them! Even if it's only through encouraging words. Everyone needs love!
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latoyajackson La Toya Jackson
Thank you so very much for all the love! I've read all of your tweets and I pray that all I went through will help U all learn 2 start over.
7 minutes ago
 
IS this a diff book that shes talking about or is she just trying to avoid the elephant in the room!
 
loveforever said:
it sounds reasonable to me. My mother told me like this when I was fighting with my little brother, like I need to take care of him, watching eachother cause they cannot watch us forever, I am a girl I need to...; I am older I should.... it's just parent's way to stop the sibling fighting and teach children love each other. nothing unusual to me...


Lataya :no:
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U know my mom still tells me this, to stop fighting with my sister and that she isn't going to be around forever. And I'm 19! LOL
 
moodyblue97 said:
Guess I've to believe her too even if I for many years got other info about it. Oh well..
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First, bitchin about it and now believing it. Get your sources straight or don't act like you know things as a fact...


This is the last thing I wanna say here. The arrogance of some people here makes me sick. You talk about brainwashing and stuff. Are you sure you are not brainwashed? Stop acting like you know the truth!
I'm not a LaToya Fan, but I will not condemn her story as bullshit because I simply don't know if the things she says might be true. You want justice, you want the truth but as soon as you get to hear something you don't like from a person you don't like, you immediately label it a lie or making it a money-grabbing attempt. But how do you know who could bring justice, how you know what the truth is?
Seriously, your hate affects you in your ability to think and judge. No matter what the family or Karen or whoever says is bad, Sony and the estate are always good! Right??? Gee...
 
Memefan said:
She changed her mind...so what? Only a fool never changes his/her mind.

Personally, I still don't believe MJ had an early meeting at the Twin towers. MJ spoke about the 9/11 attacks a few times, did the charity single and NOT ONCE did he say he had an appointment there.

I do think Dr Treacy is fairly reliable on many things, but I am not buying this one. As for Karen...she's a moot point... She could say the sky is blue...I still wouldn't take her word for it.

MJ had a late show the night before.... The attacks happened early in the morning...before 9AM. Unless his appointment was anywhere between 6AM & 8:30AM...he wouldn't have been in one of the towers.

Why are you bringing the estate into this discussion...showing your colors!? There are things the estate does I personally don't agree with (involving the Jacksons in MJ's affairs, settling with HTWF)..but I will disregard these and still support them over ANY Jackson INCLUDING MJ's kids while they are under Taryll's thumb.
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Of course she can change her mind. But why was it necessary to put it like a fact that she knows he was not going to have a meeting that day? This is how rumours get to be the "truth" although they are not! And I don't like it when people talk like they have the ultimate truth. That's it.

Only because he didn't speak about it doesn't mean that it could not be true. Maybe he had a very good reason for not speaking about it...

See that's what I said. No matter what you don't believe Karen...

Showing my colors? I'm not an Estate fan. I've never hidden that. But I guess you won't deny that this community is in favor of the estate and certain other people. This is what I wanted to express. Everybody is a liar other than the estate and Sony... But how do you know what the truth is? Why can't we just listen to what people have to say instead of saying immediately "They are lying."
 
Again I'd like to tell everybody, if you do not support Latoya's book please write a review on Amazon. If you have an account, you need not buy the book to submit a review. It's one thing we can do to expose the truth about her book, and save MJ fans from wasting their money.
 
Rhilo said:
Again I'd like to tell everybody, if you do not support Latoya's book please write a review on Amazon. If you have an account, you need not buy the book to submit a review. It's one thing we can do to expose the truth about her book, and save MJ fans from wasting their money.
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DONE :winking2:
 
Memefan said:
My dad used to say the same thing. And I can tell you..this has never fail, to make us stop bickering.



Old Taaj...never fail to surprise me.



I wonder if she read the book...When she's tweeting fans, it's all about "Starting over", "abusive relationship"...but when she's talking to the press..it all "Michael was conspired against"...

Bipolar?



She changed her mind...so what? Only a fool never changes his/her mind.

Personally, I still don't believe MJ had an early meeting at the Twin towers. MJ spoke about the 9/11 attacks a few times, did the charity single and NOT ONCE did he say he had an appointment there.

I do think Dr Treacy is fairly reliable on many things, but I am not buying this one. As for Karen...she's a moot point... She could say the sky is blue...I still wouldn't take her word for it.

MJ had a late show the night before.... The attacks happened early in the morning...before 9AM. Unless his appointment was anywhere between 6AM & 8:30AM...he wouldn't have been in one of the towers.

Why are you bringing the estate into this discussion...showing your colors!? There are things the estate does I personally don't agree with (involving the Jacksons in MJ's affairs, settling with HTWF)..but I will disregard these and still support them over ANY Jackson INCLUDING MJ's kids while they are under Taryll's thumb.

Ivy, your summary & additional comments only confirm my initial opinions. I am just glad I won't be reading this book. I did not read her first either....
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Agree with this.
 
Justice_MJ said:
Of course she can change her mind. But why was it necessary to put it like a fact that she knows he was not going to have a meeting that day? This is how rumours get to be the "truth" although they are not! And I don't like it when people talk like they have the ultimate truth. That's it.

Only because he didn't speak about it doesn't mean that it could not be true. Maybe he had a very good reason for not speaking about it...

See that's what I said. No matter what you don't believe Karen...

Showing my colors? I'm not an Estate fan. I've never hidden that. But I guess you won't deny that this community is in favor of the estate and certain other people. This is what I wanted to express. Everybody is a liar other than the estate and Sony... But how do you know what the truth is? Why can't we just listen to what people have to say instead of saying immediately "They are lying."
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WTF?! What are U accusing this community of? Just because we don't share ur nonsensical views?! It's clear that your accusing MJJC of being ''in favor'' of them. Gaz needs to ban your ass for life for such slanderous statements.
 
Let us halt this before it gets out of hand!

It is untrue and unfair to suggest that we as community support the estate and Sony. There are members here who have issues with estate and Sony. We are not all mindless drones buying into propaganda!

So are we have been sharing our views in a relative respectful manner (with the exception of a few), please let us continue to do so.
 
Latoya is once more showing her complete disregard for Michael and the kids. Her stories about Paris allegedly seeing MJ cold and crying will ofcourse be used by the defense as an example of Michaels death being just a question of time and not murrays fault. i hope latoya is proud of herself for making sure Paris is forced up the witness stand infront of the entire world...
 
In response to Justice_MJ, most of us consider the source before passing judgement. And if the source is providing information that they obtained second hand and third hand, then we have reason to question and to challenge.

Most of here have moved past the notion that Michael could do no wrong. He was a human being. But after YEARS of listening to and reading about people who have stories to tell, we have learnt to take certain things with a grain of salt. And we have large foudation of knowledge as it pertains to Michael, that the family does not have have, so there are certain things seem a bit credulous to us.

But you make a fair point - not everything in LaToya book should be presumed to be untruthful.
 
Justice_MJ said:
Showing my colors? I'm not an Estate fan. I've never hidden that. But I guess you won't deny that this community is in favor of the estate and certain other people. This is what I wanted to express. Everybody is a liar other than the estate and Sony... But how do you know what the truth is? Why can't we just listen to what people have to say instead of saying immediately "They are lying."
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first of all you cannot portray the community as a simple mindset. It's not true. We have members with differentiated opinions , we even have staff with different opinions. so there's not a MJJC stand on any subject.

As far as Latoya's book goes it's not an argument of truth or not IMO. and let me explain by looking to the claims

- Michael was cold - Michael Amir, Karen Faye, Michael Bush, Chucky have already said it. Latoya even said what Paris said on a tabloid.
- Michael didn't want to do 50 shows - TINI, Karen Faye etc again said it before
- They wanted Michael's catalog - we have heard this a thousand times since 2001.

and they might be all very well true, like I said this is not an argument of truth, however you can see that Latoya has no independent information of her own and simply repeat what other people say. It also makes any claims coming from her in regards to Michael's murder or anything else for that matter nothing more than hearsay.
 
Exactly. Toya has no first hand knowledge.she bases her claims on secondary evidence.which makes what she says irrelevent.as u might aswell just use the primary source.

And what the estate have to do with this i dont know.and until they do something negligent or not in the intrest of the estate such as corruption etc then there is no reason not to support them.thats unless u just dont like them to start with cause u think the family should be incharge.

Dont like the tone of the board then find one that suits your opinion
 
TheChosenOne said:
In response to Justice_MJ, most of us consider the source before passing judgement. And if the source is providing information that they obtained second hand and third hand, then we have reason to question and to challenge.

Most of here have moved past the notion that Michael could do no wrong. He was a human being. But after YEARS of listening to and reading about people who have stories to tell, we have learnt to take certain things with a grain of salt. And we have large foudation of knowledge as it pertains to Michael, that the family does not have have, so there are certain things seem a bit credulous to us.

But you make a fair point - not everything in LaToya book should be presumed to be untruthful.
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Thanks for your post. Of course we have to question. I just have problems with people bashing everything just because it comes from a family member. I mean we don't know if the things she says are true or not, right? So I don't understand the reactions here going on.

I apologize for having written "this community". What I meant was that I have the impression that the majority of this community denounces everything that comes from sources the "fan community" does usually for whatever reason not like (i.e. the family, Karen Faye..."). No matter what it is. But maybe this is wrong. Just saying.

ivy said:
first of all you cannot portray the community as a simple mindset. It's not true. We have members with differentiated opinions , we even have staff with different opinions. so there's not a MJJC stand on any subject.

As far as Latoya's book goes it's not an argument of truth or not IMO. and let me explain by looking to the claims

- Michael was cold - Michael Amir, Karen Faye, Michael Bush, Chucky have already said it. Latoya even said what Paris said on a tabloid.
- Michael didn't want to do 50 shows - TINI, Karen Faye etc again said it before
- They wanted Michael's catalog - we have heard this a thousand times since 2001.

and they might be all very well true, like I said this is not an argument of truth, however you can see that Latoya has no independent information of her own and simply repeat what other people say. It also makes any claims coming from her in regards to Michael's murder or anything else for that matter nothing more than hearsay.
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No matter if it's first hand or second hand information, it gives no one the right to say the things written in the book are lies. Because we just don't know!
 
Yeah what you meant is pretty clear


Justice_MJ said:
Thanks for your post. Of course we have to question. I just have problems with people bashing everything just because it comes from a family member. I mean we don't know if the things she says are true or not, right? So I don't understand the reactions here going on.

I apologize for having written "this community". What I meant was that I have the impression that the majority of this community denounces everything that comes from sources the "fan community" does usually for whatever reason not like (i.e. the family, Karen Faye..."). No matter what it is. But maybe this is wrong. Just saying.


No matter if it's first hand or second hand information, it gives no one the right to say the things written in the book are lies. Because we just don't know!
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The bold part speaks volumes about you,
 
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She says the Estate asked the family to turn in everything, including the hand written notes, which she failed to make copies of. That is plausible, since the Estate became the rightful owners of Michael's belongings upon his death. If this did happen, the Estate would know if what she claimed was in those notes is true or whether they existed at all.

It would be nice if the Estate can clear this up, as her claims are damaging to the reputation of the Executors, Branca in particular. It is time them stepped up and cleared the crap his family has been accusing them of, especially when they have the means to do so such as in this case.
 
twinklEE said:
Yeah what you meant is pretty clear
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I don't know what your problem is. Is there something to be ashamed of with supporting the estate executors? I guess not if you choose to support them. So...?

twinklEE said:
The bold part speaks volumes about you,
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I so not care what you or anyone else thinks about me. I'm listening to everyone without condemning the said things because they come from whoever. I'm interested in the things that are said, less in the people who talk.
 
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