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Rhilo said:
She says the Estate asked the family to turn in everything, including the hand written notes, which she failed to make copies of. That is plausible, since the Estate became the rightful owners of Michael's belongings upon his death. If this did happen, the Estate would know if what she claimed was in those notes is true or whether they existed at all.

It would be nice if the Estate can clear this up, as her claims are damaging to the reputation of the Executors, Branca in particular. It is time them stepped up and cleared the crap his family has been accusing them of, especially when they have the means to do so such as in this case.
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i doubt the estate care to take such time to comment on it they have far bigger fish to fry.they have been slandered enough by the families croonies but dont take the bait
 
Justice_MJ said:
I don't know what your problem is. Is there something to be ashamed of with supporting the estate executors? I guess not if you choose to support them. So...?
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No, there is nothing to be ashamed of when one is supporting Michael, I'd however be ashamed to support a bunch of criminals and loony tunes. But 'to each his own' as they say

I so not care what you or anyone else thinks about me. I'm listening to everyone without condemning the said things because they come from whoever. I'm interested in the things that are said, less in the people who talk.
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Good for you
 
hoever. I'm interested in the things that are said, less in the people who talk
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Who is saying what is of major importance when it comes to assessing the credibility of the claims. As with latoyas comments re being cold etc,as ivy said her claims are irrelevent has she has no direct evidence or info.shes just repeating what others have said so just because shes made such comments doest make the claims anymore credible as shes just repeating others claims
 
Rhilo said:
She says the Estate asked the family to turn in everything, including the hand written notes, which she failed to make copies of. That is plausible, since the Estate became the rightful owners of Michael's belongings upon his death. If this did happen, the Estate would know if what she claimed was in those notes is true or whether they existed at all.

It would be nice if the Estate can clear this up, as her claims are damaging to the reputation of the Executors, Branca in particular. It is time them stepped up and cleared the crap his family has been accusing them of, especially when they have the means to do so such as in this case.
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I wonder what was taken ASIDE from the so-called "Post-It Notes."

I'm sure when the Estate of Michael Jackson made that request, they had way more then Post-It Notes on their mind. I'm also sure that Michael had all sorts of VALUABLE ITEMS around his bedroom and the rest of his home.

Isn't there a story about Michael keeping LARGE SUMS of money in his home at all times? I recall reading about that a while back and it seemed plausible.

Out of curiosity, why do you ONLY point out John Branca "in particular?"
 
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Big Apple2;3417117 said:
I wonder what was taken ASIDE from the so-called "Post-It Notes."

I'm sure when the Estate of Michael Jackson made that request, they had way more then Post-It Notes on their mind. I'm also sure that Michael had all sorts of VALUABLE ITEMS around his bedroom and the rest of his home.

Isn't there a story about Michael keeping LARGE SUMS of money in his home at all times? I recall reading about that a while back and it seemed plausible.

Out of curiosity, why do you ONLY point out John Branca "in particular?"
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Contents of the notes from Latoya's book (thanks Ivy!)

---- I hate John Branca
---- John Branca stole lots of money from me and continuously double & triple billed me
---- I hate Tohme Tohme
---- Randy Phillips & Dr. Tohme are not flying with me. No! No! No! Ever !
---- Call Joseph
---- Get Joseph’s help to get these people out of my life.
---- I don’t want Frank Dileo back in my life.
---- I only agreed to 10 shows
---- Tell Tohme Tohme to give me back my cars
---- AEG is pressuring me to go see Dr.David H. Slavit for a physical.
 
Rhilo;3417129 said:
Contents of the notes from Latoya's book (thanks Ivy!)

---- I hate John Branca
---- John Branca stole lots of money from me and continuously double & triple billed me
---- I hate Tohme Tohme
---- Randy Phillips & Dr. Tohme are not flying with me. No! No! No! Ever !
---- Call Joseph
---- Get Joseph’s help to get these people out of my life.
---- I don’t want Frank Dileo back in my life.
---- I only agreed to 10 shows
---- Tell Tohme Tohme to give me back my cars
---- AEG is pressuring me to go see Dr.David H. Slavit for a physical.
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Oh, I got you now.

Although I must admit that I don't see a ADULT, whether that adult be a man or a woman, writing a Post-It Note saying that they HATE somebody. I mean, that seems more in line with a school girl who "hates" her classmate for taking her spot on the cheerleading squad. LOL!

And the "call Joseph to get these people out of my life." A 50-year old man, needing his father to get people out of his life. I ain't buying that either. But hey, that's just me!
 
^ Make that two, 'cause I ain't buying it either lol! Latoya made it all up in her head, and is probably bitter like most of the family about being left out of the will.
 
Yeah its not belivable at all. Call joseph! Thats the last person he would want to call even more so when joe and rowe were trying to get in on the shows. Ifthose notes excist the defence would be subpeoning them.maybe they will after they read the book! Or will the notes apear in tge aeg lawsuit.i aint holding my breath
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpqr7F48d9s&feature=related
Listen to what she was saying back IN the 90s. Manipulative liar. No naive little innocent girl!
She rolls her eyes and makes dramatic looks at the camera! This is not a person who is being abused and made to lie.
She is making everything in the moment and she's enjoying it! Yeah, Latoya what did he do to you? GOD!

It's the same thing over and over!

Back then she was controlled by Joe and Katherine, who made her live with them !!! the whole time being raped by Joe!!!. Now she is SAYING IT AGAIN - controlled, being kept in and abused. But is this how abused women act? Even if you are the greatest actor on the planet, you can't pull something like this about your family and brother!You no Meryl Streep, Toya.
I mean, what she did say about Michael in 1993! And she said it with such a drama and "concern" it is undeniable her own mess. She needs psychiatric attention. Michael 's kids will be growing in a house with greedy, unhappy people who still can't get over that Michael out shined them. La Toya needs to realize she lacks talent and dignity.So please keep your edgy-witch face home. We don't need your made up world.

You think everyone deserves forgiveness? She contributed to the MOLESTER IMAGE the media trying to portray him the same as the ACCUSERS, as if not MORE! Because she is HIS SISTER FOR God's sake.And this is unforgettable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuoVcrPX13w

Everyone should stick to their responsibilities!!!!
La Toya is spoiled old woman who still lives in the days her brothers made the money while she could live home with mother Katherine, as "the shy Jehovas's wittnes".
Well Toya, a snap of a finger and you put that prost'tute dress and makeup and made your whole family ashamed. Playboy? Psychic what? Playing yourself in a parody and a movie that is making fun of your family? I'm really tired of reading about her. When is this interview tour going to end. She is non-stop talking and talking and talking and talking and talking... Shut up for once and get your life A meaning.

Don't now attack me, it's my own comment and who doesn't like it, skip it.But this is what I think.END of story.Leave her with her garbage album and book.
 
TheDangerousFan said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpqr7F48d9s&feature=related
Listen to what she was saying back IN the 90s. Manipulative liar. No naive little innocent girl!
She rolls her eyes and makes dramatic looks at the camera! This is not a person who is being abused and made to lie.
She is making everything in the moment and she's enjoying it! Yeah, Latoya what did he do to you? GOD!
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I will NOT let you talk this much shit about La Toya. Don't like her book or the lies she writes in it? Fine, neither do it. But you can not claim that La Toya was not under the control of Jack Gordon?

Are you a woman who was abused? Because I don't think you realise how much control this man had over La Toya. It is also very obvious in that video that there is something not right. She has been "brainwashed" or drugged by Gordon or something.
 
TheDangerousFan said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpqr7F48d9s&feature=related
Listen to what she was saying back IN the 90s. Manipulative liar. No naive little innocent girl!
She rolls her eyes and makes dramatic looks at the camera! This is not a person who is being abused and made to lie.
She is making everything in the moment and she's enjoying it! Yeah, Latoya what did he do to you? GOD!
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YIKES, I never saw that interview before.

I'm sorry, but homegirl looks like she is enjoying every minute of that joint. I'm already on record as saying that I don't believe Jack Gordon made her do anything she didn't want to do or maybe, for all we know, it was all HER idea from jumpstreet.

She's good, she ain't even reading a "script." I guess Jack Gordon also FORCED her to memorize her lines. LOL!

Dang, that must have broke her mother's heart.
 
If Latoya didn't talk so much 'shit' about Michael, maybe so much shit won't get talked about her.
 
Unless you were in La Toya's position, you will NEVER understand what she went through and what she was forced to do.
 
KingMikeJ said:
Unless you were in La Toya's position, you will NEVER understand what she went through and what she was forced to do.
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Nobody forced her to write a second book of half truths, but her own greedy conscience.
 
Rhilo said:
Nobody forced her to write a second book of half truths, but her own greedy conscience.
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You're entitled to be angry about this. But Jack Gordon obviously had complete control of her in the 90s and I can't believe people here can't see that.
 
TheDangerousFan said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gpqr7F48d9s&feature=related
Listen to what she was saying back IN the 90s. Manipulative liar. No naive little innocent girl!
She rolls her eyes and makes dramatic looks at the camera! This is not a person who is being abused and made to lie.
She is making everything in the moment and she's enjoying it! Yeah, Latoya what did he do to you? GOD!

It's the same thing over and over!

Back then she was controlled by Joe and Katherine, who made her live with them !!! the whole time being raped by Joe!!!. Now she is SAYING IT AGAIN - controlled, being kept in and abused. But is this how abused women act? Even if you are the greatest actor on the planet, you can't pull something like this about your family and brother!You no Meryl Streep, Toya.
I mean, what she did say about Michael in 1993! And she said it with such a drama and "concern" it is undeniable her own mess. She needs psychiatric attention. Michael 's kids will be growing in a house with greedy, unhappy people who still can't get over that Michael out shined them. La Toya needs to realize she lacks talent and dignity.So please keep your edgy-witch face home. We don't need your made up world.

You think everyone deserves forgiveness? She contributed to the MOLESTER IMAGE the media trying to portray him the same as the ACCUSERS, as if not MORE! Because she is HIS SISTER FOR God's sake.And this is unforgettable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuoVcrPX13w

Everyone should stick to their responsibilities!!!!
La Toya is spoiled old woman who still lives in the days her brothers made the money while she could live home with mother Katherine, as "the shy Jehovas's wittnes".
Well Toya, a snap of a finger and you put that prost'tute dress and makeup and made your whole family ashamed. Playboy? Psychic what? Playing yourself in a parody and a movie that is making fun of your family? I'm really tired of reading about her. When is this interview tour going to end. She is non-stop talking and talking and talking and talking and talking... Shut up for once and get your life A meaning.

Don't now attack me, it's my own comment and who doesn't like it, skip it.But this is what I think.END of story.Leave her with her garbage album and book.
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I agree with everything you wrote. And I think Michael was a real saint if he found enough strength within himself to forgive her after everything she did.
 
Justice_MJ said:
Of course she can change her mind. But why was it necessary to put it like a fact that she knows he was not going to have a meeting that day? This is how rumours get to be the "truth" although they are not! And I don't like it when people talk like they have the ultimate truth. That's it.

Only because he didn't speak about it doesn't mean that it could not be true. Maybe he had a very good reason for not speaking about it...

See that's what I said. No matter what you don't believe Karen...

Showing my colors? I'm not an Estate fan. I've never hidden that. But I guess you won't deny that this community is in favor of the estate and certain other people. This is what I wanted to express. Everybody is a liar other than the estate and Sony... But how do you know what the truth is? Why can't we just listen to what people have to say instead of saying immediately "They are lying."
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Why should I listen to those who have proved AGAIN & AGAIN that they are untrustworthy, conniving, greedy, liars and backstabbers?

Karen Faye is a vapid bitch...There is nothing she can do to make me change my mind. As for THOSE Jacksons..well, it is what it is, I don't have to listen nor believe what they have to say.

Fool me once, shame on you ...fool me twice shame on me.

The estate doesn't have "carte blanche"... When I am not happy with something they do, I have no problem stating that fact. They are not paying me..therefore I am free to voice my opinion & not support something that I don't agree with. But at least they have remained classy, like the man himself, something those Jacksons clearly don't have. Not once, has the estate released a product with the intention of exploiting MJ's anniversary. Last year, we had Katherine/Mann's book...this year we have La toya's.
 
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KingMikeJ said:
You're entitled to be angry about this. But Jack Gordon obviously had complete control of her in the 90s and I can't believe people here can't see that.
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It "may" be obvious to you, but it is certainly not obvious to me.

I look at that clip and see a woman who is clearly enjoying the attention that she is receiving. The attention she was craving but was unable to attain from her "singing" abilities. It must have crushed her that her "talents" didn't get her anywhere. Poor thing!
 
KingMikeJ said:
You're entitled to be angry about this. But Jack Gordon obviously had complete control of her in the 90s and I can't believe people here can't see that.
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Serious question: So you think Gordon wrote the script and had her memorized it?
 
Memefan said:
Serious question: So you think Gordon wrote the script and had her memorized it?
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That's what I'm talking about!

I mean, what did Gordon do, get the questions in ADVANCE and prepare the answers for her to memorize before the interview. LOL!

Reminds me of Janet Arviso, claiming that they gave her a script to memorize. As if!
 
I am going to ask a serious question - has LaToya Jackson sought professional help?

I do not ask it be mean, I ask because I am curious. When you look at what she has been through at the hands of her father and then at the hands of Jack Gordon, I can understand why she would need to work things through with a professional. I do not like armchair psychology, so I am not going to pscyho-analyse her. I don't know her and never met her. I really I am just curious.
Does she mention that in her book?
 
And guys, let us treat each other's posts with respect. If the person has a valid point acknowledge it but state your case.

All of us want the same thing, even if we do not agree on everything. And we do not NEED to agree on everything either. That would be a tad boring.

But if someone makes a point, don't just disregard it - think about it, consider its merit and then respond.

We need a bit more and give and take in this section.
 
Big Apple2 said:
That's what I'm talking about!

I mean, what did Gordon do, get the questions in ADVANCE and prepare the answers for her to memorize before the interview. LOL!

Reminds me of Janet Arviso, claiming that they gave her a script to memorize. As if!
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I believe La Toya was brainwashed into believing that Michael was a pedophile by Jack Gordon. I don't think she wants to admit it and that is why she is going with the script story. Just my opinion.
 
KingMikeJ said:
I believe La Toya was brainwashed into believing that Michael was a pedophile by Jack Gordon. I don't think she wants to admit it and that is why she is going with the script story. Just my opinion.
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I would have believed it more if she said she was brainwashed but the script story makes it unbelieveable and her unreliable

this is the 1993 Tel-Aviv conference. She says that she didn't know about it and Gordon gave her a piece of paper and she read through it. Look to first 1 minute yes she's reading it from the paper but then look after first minute, she's not reading from the paper anymore, it's her sentences and she's even creating conversation with the media "how many of you 35 years old?" etc

 
TheChosenOne said:
I am going to ask a serious question - has LaToya Jackson sought professional help?

I do not ask it be mean, I ask because I am curious. When you look at what she has been through at the hands of her father and then at the hands of Jack Gordon, I can understand why she would need to work things through with a professional. I do not like armchair psychology, so I am not going to pscyho-analyse her. I don't know her and never met her. I really I am just curious.
Does she mention that in her book?
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hmm no to my recollection. for example she mentions the time she escaped from him and went to Las Vegas. She says she was so afraid and didn't leave the house for months to years and her interaction was only with food delivery man. so it doesn't seem like she sought any help from what she wrote.
 
Be careful with what? If you are referring to my last sentence, it was a joke. I thought it's obvious. :)
 
Justice_MJ;3416928 said:
First, bitchin about it and now believing it. Get your sources straight or don't act like you know things as a fact...
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Why are you so angry with me? :( I wasn´t bitching at all. I just said what I know and have known for a long time, and for me it is fact since two people who was there and were close friends to him said he wasn´t suppose to go to a meeting. And I was at those concerts and talked to him afterwards, that´s why I was so sure also. Karen can be very convincing, and I don´t know what to believe at this point. That´s why I said that I may have to believe Karen.
I´m sorry you got mad at me, I´m not here to fight with anyone. I know my place and I don´t try to come off as knowing everything. I did meet Michael many times and I don´t claim to know him, but I do feel I know very much. And as soon as I say that, someone say that you don´t know anyone by camping outside his hotel.
I can say right now before anyone jump on me. I wasn´t a follower and I never camped outside his house or his hotel. I met him through my work. And I never visited fanboards before June 25. I´m here to be able to smile again.. some girls in here are wonderful and reading their comments make my days at times.

I´m not here to fight or argue, and I only write something when I´m sure it´s accurate, this was an occasion when I´m sure. When more people say different, I´m not sure anymore and I admit it.

And thank you Meme whatever you wrote..

Sorry for ranting, I don´t like when people get mad at me. :(
 
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