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La Toya releases new book and single / Summary @ Pg 30 / Pictures @ Pg 33

Rhilo said:
And for the last time what is this family's agenda with the Estate? Is it because you got no money? Seriously give up. At this rate I'd have Branca and McClain over ANY Jackson ANY day.
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Yes it's about money and let me tell you something and correct something.

Latoya talks about the money earned from projects and "1 billion" the estate earned multiple times. Then she adds they don't know / understand why the debt hasn't been paid and if the money is being kept for MJ's kids as they haven't seen any accounting.

I couldn't help but laugh here because Estate has 2 times filed the accounting with the court (a third one is due in a few months), both times media reported about it, once they even published a redacted version - so even we (fans) saw a redacted / limited accounting. So the accounting is available and even if Katherine's lawyer wasn't given a copy (which I doubt because the report said they were given a copy if I'm not mistaken) Katherine as a beneficiary can ask and get a copy of the accounting from the probate court.

In this reality in regards to business, law, probate , estate etc Jackson's seem totally clueless so I really do not see how they could be executors. and I'm personally glad that they aren't. Because as a random fan if I know more about business , estate , law etc than Jacksons, it clearly shows me that they aren't the people for this job.
 
No-one in the Jackson family is equipped to manage Michael's estate. Michael moved beyond them in terms of innovation, creativity business savvy, legacy and purpose.

And if Michael wanted things changed and the Jackson family in the control he could have met with their lawyers, drawn up the necessary papers and ensured that, in the event something happened to him, the family would have the appropriate documentation to challenge Branca et al.
 
And I don't think we say it enough - Ivy, you are a god send.

P.S. I did not see your post above, before posting mine! It seems we are of one mind in this.
 
It has been awhile since I posted here, but I find this too stupid not to say anything.

Really, for someone who claims to be an expert in detective work, she sucks getting the basic facts. She still says he was 112lbs. Did she even read the corona's report or go to Murray's hearing? Did the people on the stand and the corona lie in the report and tacked on an extra 24lbs? If they did, why didn't she call these people out? Also, if he was that thin, wouldn't they had noticed when he last visited? Is she trying to say that within a month of his death he lost that much freaking weight that the family said crap when he last saw him? What about her mom and dad? Why didn't they say anything about his weight? What, he lost 20lbs in 2 weeks since his own mother saw him. Speaking of her mom, she still says Michael only signed up for ten shows. Her mom asked the courts for the AEG contract, which shows how many shows Michael agreed to. Did she even asked her mom to look at the contract? Do she think it's fake? If so, why hasn't she file a claim yet or was Michael so ill and out of it that he didn't even know what he signed. Even if she agree with Karen, Michael didn't read contracts, he still signed himself to a min of 18, not 10.

Also, what kind of person who is train in detective not take notes in the house that could be link to his murder to the police? Even if the estate asked for the information back, there was still plenty of time to go to the LAPD since the executors didn't even come into power until July? Also, she didn't make copies? She also didn't tell her own father since Joe said crap about Michael actually wanting his help. And why didn't Michael asked Joe himself at the family gathering, when he came during Paris' birthday party, or the meeting with AEG? What, did Michael forget or did the shadow people somehow convince him not to talk to anyone except fans and Karen?

Another thing, did detective Toy asked Karen why she changed her tone from her facebook before June 25 or why the hell she didn't contact them to tell them Michael was ill or was scared? Also, since she is quoting Rowe, she must agree with him that Michael was an addict when he died. I mean, how could Michael be clean when he died if you going to give credit to a person who went on the news and said that everyone knew that Michael was an addict and the family was trying to stage an intervention? Same thing with Oxman, who she claimed to be a great lawyer.

Finally, if Michael was so ill and a puppet, what was the point in killing him? Sound like to me the 'shadow' people pretty much had Michael under their power since he was so whip he didn't tell his family a thing, even when he was of plain sight of them. Why not just continue to drain him of his money and talent until he died naturally or burn out? Not just kill him, but do it when he was about to make them a crap load of money, regardless if he was ill or not.

I know I am putting way too much thought into this thread and Toy is too out there to think straight, but I just had to get this off my chest.
 
Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

ivy said:
oh and remember this story after he died?

Notes found in Michael Jackson's room in his final hours reveal a series of wishes for the world.

Scribblings discovered on Post-its and paper show Jackson was psyching himself up to perform a gruelling 50-date UK tour.

"I am so grateful that I am a magnet for miracles," writes the tragic King of Pop. Magnet for Miracles is a phrase used in US self-help programs for recovering alcoholics. The idea behind the phrase is that the more one says about oneself, the more likely that things will go one's way.

A second note reads: "Love, no violence ever!" It carried the additional note, "Remember a beautiful future promise of tomorrow".

A friend of the late superstar said: "I think this reveals how positive Michael was until the last. He was such a sweet-natured man who saw the good in everyone. The note about a beautiful future is especially sad as it shows how he was looking forward to a successful, happy life."

A third note reads: "Do We Are The World in show," referring to a song, while "Call Temperton" is scrawled on a blue Post-it note. Meanwhile, a hand-written reminder to "Call Temperton" - believed to be British song-writer and producer Rob Temperton, who Michael recorded 'Thriller' and 'Rock With You' with - was propped up in the room with his agent Dr Tohme Tohme's business card and a note to call him too.

A source said the last two reminder notes revealed Jackson's frail state of mind. "It's worrying that he had to write reminders about things as obvious as these while he was rehearsing for his tour.

"But the drugs he was taking obviously had a huge impact on his mind and memory."

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another story

There were strange notes, apparently handwritten by Michael himself, stuck onto the room's walls bearing the words "children are sweet" and "children are innocent".
The police officer said: "The temperature upstairs was stiflingly hot, with gas fireplaces and the heating system on high because Jackson always complained of feeling cold.
"The singer's bedroom was a mess, with items seemingly thrown about and some 20 handwritten notes stuck on the walls. A porcelain girl doll wearing a dress was found on top of the covers of the bed where he slept."
The officer also claims the singer's staff were banned from entering his room to clean up the mess
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thanks for this, remind me the Michael I knew. the Michael in Lataya's book sounds like Lataya, just replaced her abusive husband name to "Branca, Dileo...." She/he was controlled and kept away from the family by XX. Her "michael's handwritten notes" ehh, said all about her credibility. Drama Queen
 
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Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

loveforever said:
thanks for this, remind me the Michael I knew. the Michael in Lataya's book sounds like Lataya, screaming out "Branca is so evil, I wanted my loving family and Joe to manage my estate". Her "michael's handwritten notes" ehh, said all about her credibility. Drama Queen
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Maybe she should release her song 'No More Drama' to remind herself that her Drama Queen days are suppose to be behind her.

It's really true. With the Jacksons, it's everyone's else fault when things go wrong with them.
 
Haha one negative review on Amazon already. I hope it receives 1 star ratings only.
 
Memefan said:
Ha ha ha...good catch. I just saw it. lol
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Ikr? lol, basically anyone with an Amazon account can leave a review. So people who have accounts and want to show their disapproval, may leave a negative review regardless! *hint hint*
 
thank u ivy for summary.i knew it we will be hearing some ish .and as some one said i guess they already brainwashed the kids .
latoya is truly crazy ,even if u give pass to her nonsense in 1992 becoz of abuse ,what we can say about this ish post traumatic syndrome?
 
your sum ivy on amazon??

About the notes i didnt know about the other pos notes, but i found it strange that there two storys.. If la toyas story is true is it then bad branca is still in charge of the estate? And if its true michael wanted joe why was frank back?

I mean there must be photos of the notes, made by the police or something? Like the room was also photographed?

And why was michael changing his room in to a mess?? What happend really?


Its bothering me... Someday we have to know the true. The tini fans why can we ask them what there story is? Maybe we can check that one and la toyas book.. ?


Also i didnt understand the post about the acount of the children? The estate made there account public? sorry difficult one..
 
where did the story came from that he only agreed for 10 shows, if we now know he wanted more like 30??

Also why did la toya said the 100 hour is not all michael from this is it. they only taped the last 3 days??
 
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I really don't know what to think because it's mind bloggling. It's hard to believe certain things because she admits she had little contact with Michael through the years. I do believe when she says how he was emotionally and physically hurt by the trial. It really broke his heart and you could see it. One thing that scared me was that did someone cut the phone and heat in the house she said that paris said? I am confused by that. She makes it sound like he was prisoner in the house with bad conditions. The notes? I would have taken pictures of that and the kids not having anything of their dad's is hard to believe.

The only people I want to hear from on how his kids were raised and what kind of dad he was is from his own children. I think they would actually say it the best.
 
ivy;3416105 said:
Yes it's about money....
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It was always and always about money ….only about money.

And it is very important that Michael 2002 was addicted: In that year Michael signed the hated testament.

One works on it and dug since the 6/25/2009.
Worked in advance has had the supposed confidant who never is in the foreground, but constantly in the background is present.
See here:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...ut-fork-in-his-mouth-says-former-manager.html

http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=148&num=241086

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...-to-play-london-concerts-ex-manager-claims.do

It is just disgusting.
 
Mneme said:
And it is very important that Michael 2002 was addicted: In that year Michael signed the hated testament.
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Personally I think we mustn't take 2002 addiction as a given. Latoya is quite conflicting about it. Sure she mentions an intervention attempt but she also describes Michael as alert, happy, looking good etc. and in the end they believe that he wasn't having addiction problems.

by the way Michael's fear or being killed once he went against Sony and wearing bulletproof vests is true, it can explain why he was updating his will when he was in NY for protests against Sony.
 
Mneme;3416386 said:
It was always and always about money ….only about money.

And it is very important that Michael 2002 was addicted: In that year Michael signed the hated testament.

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It is just disgusting.
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The will is only 'hated' as you say by the family and their stans. The will and trust was formed to protect the interests of Michael's THREE KIDS. IF you're too blind to see it than that's your fault.
Michael did a damn good job with preserving his wealth for his kids and direct line future successors

Also calling/implying Michael Jackson an addict is against the rules on a MICHAEL jackson fanboard.
 
twinklEE said:
The will is only 'hated' as you say by the family and their stans. The will and trust was formed to protect the interests of Michael's THREE KIDS. IF you're too blind to see it than that's your fault.
Michael did a damn good job with preserving his wealth for his kids and direct line future successors
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Co-sign.

I don't know why it's so hard for SOME folks to except the notion that Michael Jackson did not want his family involved with his business, nor the handling of his Estate.

If Michael's family (excluding Janet of course) were SHARP business people and had a bunch of assets of their own, I could understand that argument, but as we all know, Michael's family is just not good when it comes to business. They have left a WIDE range of failed business ventures in their wake.

In my opinion, Michael Jackson knew exactly what he was doing when he planned on how he wanted his Estate to be handled, right down to the ages he deemed for when his children could take control. He obviously took his time and knew exactly what he wanted. Very smart move, in my opinion.
 
watching her interview now... wow, LaToya surely likes talking. it's like a million words per minute
 
Justice_MJ;3416032 said:
And you are one of those closest persons, I guess....


Just continue doing what you're doing, dear fans. One day we may have the truth and some people will have a hard awakening...
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No I´m not
 
Big Apple2 said:
Co-sign.

I don't know why it's so hard for SOME folks to except the notion that Michael Jackson did not want his family involved with his business, nor the handling of his Estate.

If Michael's family (excluding Janet of course) were SHARP business people and had a bunch of assets of their own, I could understand that argument, but as we all know, Michael's family is just not good when it comes to business. They have left a WIDE range of failed business ventures in their wake.

In my opinion, Michael Jackson knew exactly what he was doing when he planned on how he wanted his Estate to be handled, right down to the ages he deemed for when his children could take control. He obviously took his time and knew exactly what he wanted. Very smart move, in my opinion.
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Exactly, also for Latoya to label Michael an addict in 2002 just fits right into her agenda, as the will was written then, what about the older wills? Was he supposed to be an addict back in 1997 as well? Or back in 1995? Seing as the Jackson's were NEVER mentioned in the earlier wills? All the guy did in 2002 was include his younger kids, that was it. The will isn't as unlikely as she, her deluded greedy family, and their stans make it out to be. Michael left them out, and I thank God for it, cuz the Jackson's prove with every passing day, why they don't deserve to be running Michael's empire or inherit Michael's money.


All the resentment and bitterness some of LAtoya's siblings and maybe even she, herself has against Michael is solely because they were left out. Michael despite of having fed and clothed the majority of the Jackson's for a lifetime, still ''owed'' them in their minds.
The entire Jackson family and their offspring TOGETHER for generations to come, won't be able to repay Michael (and I'm not referring to just money) for everything he did 4 them. It was him and his shining talent who brought them out of the ghetto, and provided years after most of the Jackson's had gone broke, regardless of what they (or you) say. Heck, Latoya being in the position that she is today, is solely due to her Michael connections. Two years after his death, Michael is still helping her make money and feed her stomach.
 
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Mj stated in the weisner depo he was having some issues around that time.whether there was an actual intervention i doubt as the family never saw him.my issue is the b.s they pull now which helps murray.
 
ivy;3416392 said:
Personally I think we mustn't take 2002 addiction as a given. Latoya is quite conflicting about it. Sure she mentions an intervention attempt but she also describes Michael as alert, happy, looking good etc. and in the end they believe that he wasn't having addiction problems.

by the way Michael's fear or being killed once he went against Sony and wearing bulletproof vests is true, it can explain why he was updating his will when he was in NY for protests against Sony.
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Only briefly, ivy-----

I have the suspicion that the Sony quarrel was planned systematically by Michael's surroundings and Michael was driven in there.

Why, otherwise, Michael calls on his own fans not to buy his new album....
Where was the logic in this boycott call?

First the Merchandising... and then EVERYTHING.

How I should explain to myself this Billboard article:
http://books.google.de/books?id=IxQ...U#v=onepage&q=mj net entertainment ag&f=false

“On Sept. 7 it will launch my mjtv.com.,……, and an upcoming album of new material.”
He is from the 07.07.2001. (Invincible came on the 29.10.2001)


I know: It is here the wrong thread for it...


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You have not understood me,twinklee....
 
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I didn't know Michael was supposed to have been in a meeting at 9am in the world trade centre on 9/11,first time I've heard that? Is that true?

Edit: sorry just read a few pages back and that question has been answered.
 
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Thank you for the summary IVy...it is always so hard to read what it is the family has to say about Michael...and THEIR version of events..I think is harder right now seeing that June 25th is right around the corner. I just cant anymore......
 
Thanks Ivy for all the information you've given members who haven't read the book and aren't sure whether to.
 
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