La Toya releases new book and single / Summary @ Pg 30 / Pictures @ Pg 33

[Bridgett_361]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

Thank you Ivy for the summery, I am speechless, but the part that get me is toya returning the so called "note" and don't copy them,
Stu...p woman, I am truly brain freeze,

 

[Roosje]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

What a sad story overall. The fact that Michael could have died on 9/11 stood out to me. Thanks for the summary Ivy.

 

[moodyblue97]

What a sad story overall. The fact that Michael could have died on 9/11 stood out to me. Thanks for the summary Ivy.

I know for sure he didn´t have a meeting the day after the show. And her story about busses.. Michael booked busses for his friends to get home, he stayed in New Jersey for longer.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

Michael began laughing. She says it was because Michael was happy his father was there to protect him from vultures

its like the saying im laughing at u not with you. joe and rowe were the vultures trying to get in on the 02 shows and when they got told to get lost they ran to the tabloids.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

I know for sure he didn´t have a meeting the day after the show. And her story about busses.. Michael booked busses for his friends to get home, he stayed in New Jersey for longer.

and he brought a bus down for fans to stay on who were short of money. yeah he stayed in NJ

Thank you Ivy for the summery, I am speechless, but the part that get me is toya returning the so called "note" and don't copy them,
Stu...p woman, I am truly brain freeze,

thats cause the notes prob excist in her head only

 

[Justice_MJ]

Interesting read. Thanks for the summary!
I don't know why everyone is calling it a bullshit. As if you know the truth... :smilerolleyes:
But I guess you would have called it bullshit no matter what was written in that book...

What a sad story overall. The fact that Michael could have died on 9/11 stood out to me. Thanks for the summary Ivy.

LaToya is not the first to mention that. William Wagener said during a radio interview:

"I believe now they are trying to kill Michael at least since 9/11.

Somebody bigger than Tommy really wanted Michael dead. And they wanted him dead for quite some time. […]

Michael was supposed to be in the Twin towers. […] He was asked to meet and the bait to get Michael up there was that supposedly that person wanted to get money to several of Michael’s favorite children charities and with Michael simply meeting up there for breakfast on September 11th. […] He was asked to meet with someone up there. Why Michael didn’t go? I don’t know. […]"

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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so whoever wanted mj in the twin towers knew that it was gonna happen cause 911 was all set up by the goverment. and all the jews got told to stay at home aswell! okayyyyy next it will be 911 was a set up just to get mj. if that were the case they should have flown the plane in to MSG while i and everyone else were sat there.

 

[moodyblue97]

He didn´t have a meeting that morning.. if he did, he didn´t know it an neither one of the closest person he had around him.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

stop talking sense moody lol.

 

[moodyblue97]

stop talking sense moody lol.

I usually don´t argue.. couldn´t help myself this time though.

 

[Justice_MJ]

He didn´t have a meeting that morning.. if he did, he didn´t know it an neither one of the closest person he had around him.

And you are one of those closest persons, I guess....


Just continue doing what you're doing, dear fans. One day we may have the truth and some people will have a hard awakening...

 

[ivy]

Ivy,

Is Latoya quoting MJ's notes FROM 2 YEARS ago VERBATIM in her book???

I have a hard time believing she can transcript these notes, word for word, without a copy. If she does have copies, why didn't she include photos to CORROBORATE her stories? That is the VERY LEAST she would have done.

seems like it. this is what she says "his bedroom was littered with Post-it notes that he documented his thoughts during the last days of his life. Among the notes we read were : - insert notes here - . Together we all reviewed hundreds of notes, papers and documents, just by reading hose we learned so much about whom Michael feared. His notes only strengthened my conviction that I must do everything to bring this information to light as did the letter the family later received from the Estate ordering us to return anything we might have taken if we wanted to avoid a trip to court".

And as you stated there are no pictures of these notes in the book, therefore I can safely conclude she made them up?


How can a 57+ year old woman remembers all these notes without having copies?? And the police would have found them before her? These are very damaging statements that could have been used during the investigation.

If she can lie so BLATANTLY about these, it shows the 1991 Latoya is still out there...even though Jack Gordon has been long dead.

no picture of the notes.

One odd thing. She mentions a note that Michael wrote that said Branca over billed him. Then when they are asking for a family member have an executor seat she mentions Londell McMillian showed them an affidavit from a secretary at Branca's firm that Branca was double / triple billing Michael. So one minute it's something Michael wrote other minute it's something McMillian showed. I don't know.

never talk about filing for bankruptcy themselves but accuse the man who left over a billion of not having a clue.

says that Gordon filed for bankruptcy and Oxman told her to stay in bankruptcy.

wow she says Bill Bray isolated Michael from the family? I really have a hard time believing that.

she says someone (Dileo) made Bill Bray to isolate Michael because she doesn't believe that Michael would have wanted to be isolated from his family. (yet after the trial Michael kept no communication with his family.)

So the picture of Toya, MJ and the kids in spiderman mask was just a coincidence? Ive always thought they went out shopping together but it turned out she just bumped into him? LOL

yes

If you read it you can't return it. That's my publisher's heart speaking.

I'll get store credit and buy another book.

I know for sure he didn´t have a meeting the day after the show. And her story about busses.. Michael booked busses for his friends to get home, he stayed in New Jersey for longer.

she had no contact with Michael in 2001. She talks about the family when she mention the tour busses not Michael.

 

[ivy]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

These are the pictures. I only scanned the ones with Michael in them. Sorry my scanner is not that good and some of them are a little blurry and not straight.

 

[Ingelief]

But it was mentioned last in à thread that THE insurence was for what30 shows? So Michael knew it was for more right? And are THE notes true? Are there photos of them? That would be wrong right of hè hates John branca while hè is THE estate? Do you think THE notes are true? Also paris and prince know alot maybe in time we know THE true about Michael and his thought and feares and if hè said to paris be THE mom. Where does she get that weight from? thx Ivy for that sum!

 

[TheChosenOne]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

LaToya may have copied the notes by hand since she may not have had access to a copier or printer!

 

[missred07]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day

Just wrote them. She makes it sound like Estate send them a letter and made them return everything they had taken from the house. so it seems like she doesn't have the notes. (doesn't explain how Rebbie had his Iphone case and glasses case)

There are few pictures of her with Michael. One of them is the last photo of them together. I'll try to scan it tomorrow at work before I return the book to B&N.

lol
This is kind of funny. Even the Estate did ask them to send back everything, how come she didn't take a picture or scan them as evidence??? How she actually want us to believe the note is really exist?

 

[ivy]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

LaToya may have copied the notes by hand since she may not have had access to a copier or printer!

by her account there were 6 of them in the Carolwood house first night. Latoya, Jeffre, Randy, Katherine, Trent, Janet. None of them have a cell phone to take pictures? And Branca and McClain only become the executors mid July so I'll assume the letter they sent to ask back for everything they took probably at least sent a few days to 2-3 weeks later.

 

[ivy]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

oh and remember this story after he died?

Notes found in Michael Jackson's room in his final hours reveal a series of wishes for the world.

Scribblings discovered on Post-its and paper show Jackson was psyching himself up to perform a gruelling 50-date UK tour.

"I am so grateful that I am a magnet for miracles," writes the tragic King of Pop. Magnet for Miracles is a phrase used in US self-help programs for recovering alcoholics. The idea behind the phrase is that the more one says about oneself, the more likely that things will go one's way.

A second note reads: "Love, no violence ever!" It carried the additional note, "Remember a beautiful future promise of tomorrow".

A friend of the late superstar said: "I think this reveals how positive Michael was until the last. He was such a sweet-natured man who saw the good in everyone. The note about a beautiful future is especially sad as it shows how he was looking forward to a successful, happy life."

A third note reads: "Do We Are The World in show," referring to a song, while "Call Temperton" is scrawled on a blue Post-it note. Meanwhile, a hand-written reminder to "Call Temperton" - believed to be British song-writer and producer Rob Temperton, who Michael recorded 'Thriller' and 'Rock With You' with - was propped up in the room with his agent Dr Tohme Tohme's business card and a note to call him too.

A source said the last two reminder notes revealed Jackson's frail state of mind. "It's worrying that he had to write reminders about things as obvious as these while he was rehearsing for his tour.

"But the drugs he was taking obviously had a huge impact on his mind and memory."

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another story

There were strange notes, apparently handwritten by Michael himself, stuck onto the room's walls bearing the words "children are sweet" and "children are innocent".
The police officer said: "The temperature upstairs was stiflingly hot, with gas fireplaces and the heating system on high because Jackson always complained of feeling cold.
"The singer's bedroom was a mess, with items seemingly thrown about and some 20 handwritten notes stuck on the walls. A porcelain girl doll wearing a dress was found on top of the covers of the bed where he slept."
The officer also claims the singer's staff were banned from entering his room to clean up the mess

 

[ginvid]

But it was mentioned last in à thread that THE insurence was for what30 shows? So Michael knew it was for more right? And are THE notes true? Are there photos of them? That would be wrong right of hè hates John branca while hè is THE estate? Do you think THE notes are true? Also paris and prince know alot maybe in time we know THE true about Michael and his thought and feares and if hè said to paris be THE mom. Where does she get that weight from? thx Ivy for that sum!

Yes, MJ knew it was for more that 10 shows. I believe he knew it was for up to 31 shows. So I don't believe the thing about him only wanting 10 shows. Now, how it went from 30 to 50 is a different topic altogether.
We don't know if the notes are true. There are no pictures or photo copies of them. LaToya is either quoting from memory or wrote down what the contents of the notes were.
Who LaToya's source is for the weight is unknown. But whomever she received it from was incorrect. That is the main thing. Not only were they incorrect, but LaToya, not checking her facts, repeats this stuff.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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The note story got reported on back then in the tabs i guess we know who sold the story then. Beat me to it ivy re the story

Heartbreaking see the pic of the kids with mj at the ranch after the arraignment.those bastards need to rot

 

[lidwinee]

thank you for the pics ivy I have a question
La Toya's arrival at Carolwood:

- Police had been in the house all day. Jacksons wasn’t allowed inside the house until detectives said it was okay.

- 11:30 Latoya, Jeffre, ...Randy and Ron Boyd (family friend police officer) arrive to Carolwood.

- 12:00 Katherine and Trent came. Later Janet came.

- Michael Amir lets them in.

But read Amir's testimony (official transcript):

After MAW finished interviewing the police at Carolwood, before he left, a NEW security team hired by Tohme Tohme arrived and said that MAW’s security team was released.
MAW waited for the family to get there before he left the residence.
MAW asked the police if people are allowed on the residence and the police said “we are done here, you can let them in’ When the Family came in, MAW left the residence.

He talks about June 25th, not 26th and so I suppose Latoya does. How is it possible that the J's family arrived to Carolwood at 11.30 and 12.00? 11.30 & 12.00 pm then ??

 

[ivy]

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Who LaToya's source is for the weight is unknown. But whomever she received it from was incorrect. That is the main thing. Not only were they incorrect, but LaToya, not checking her facts, repeats this stuff.

It's Karen Faye. She's the one that has been saying that weight forever.

The note story got reported on back then in the tabs i guess we know who sold the story then. Beat me to it ivy re the story

as you can see from the previous tabloid stories both the number of the notes (20 versus hundreds) and the content of them (people Michael feared versus positive notes about life and this concerts) changes.

He talks about June 25th, not 26th and so I suppose Latoya does. How is it possible that the J's family arrived to Carolwood at 11.30 and 12.00? 11.30 & 12.00 pm then ??

yes it's 11:30 pm June 25th and 12:00 AM at June 26. It's basically late night the day Michael died.

It's like this in my understanding. Police has been in the house all day. Michael Amir return to the house after hospital. Tohme comes and fires all staff, Michael Amir refuses to leave Carolwood. Jacksons go to Hayvenhurst after hospital and wait. When police allows them in to the house they go to Carolwood. Michael Amir lets them in, takes them around, tells them what he knows and then leaves the house to Jacksons.

 

[ShipOfFools]

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I am confused on whether to buy this? Is it La Toya cashing in?

If so, I swear, I am so sick of family members trying to cash in after Michael's death. Even Katherine had a go! I think Michael needs to be left alone, in peace.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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Yeah diff note stories ivy.i wouldnt be surprised if there were some post it notes with ideas/notes etc on them.but that doesnt sell a story so it gets changed by others to make more money

 

[JMie]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

Ivy, thanks for the photos. The one from Neverland is heartbreaking...

 

[ivy]

Re: La Toya to release new book and single on the same day/ Summary at page 30

I am confused on whether to buy this? Is it La Toya cashing in?

If so, I swear, I am so sick of family members trying to cash in after Michael's death. Even Katherine had a go! I think Michael needs to be left alone, in peace.

as a person that read the book I can say - yes she's cashing in.

she says she started this book as a self help book in 2008. Well she tells her abuse in detail but there's no "help" offered in the book for the people in the same condition. so it's a biography enhanced with Michael. even when she's telling her abuse stories she goes to past and tells stories about how Michael fallen in love with Neverland and bought it etc. She tells how being a JW made her trusting , then includes stories about Michael going door to door in disguise. Quite irrelevant IMO (and most probably done to include Michael in her stories in some way).

There's no significant new information in the book either and how could it be? Because by her admission it's clear that she wasn't close to Michael. I wrote them before 5-8 times in 20 years with 6- 4 year gaps? Only thing she bases her opinions is Michael in 2003 saying the accusations were a plot against him to get his catalog and he's afraid that he'll be killed. And her "murder" theory is nothing more than the conspiracy theories and hearsay information in regards to Michael's death coming from Leonard Rowe, Joe Jackson, Karen Faye, Michael Bush, a choreographer and TINI fans.

and you should take her word for it because she and Michael were really close one time even like "twins" I mean look they even dressed the same and she knows him as he knows her and she had a police training during Armed and Famous so she's an expert in detective work. (Yes she actually makes these claims in her book)

 

[TheChosenOne]

Now that we have the summary for this book I am even more convinced that Ms Jackson is about making money.

In her own words she confesses that she had little contact with Michael but feels free to speculate and to pass judgement and to write about what was going on with him (based on what others have said).

Furthermore in 'starting over' she makes little or mention of her other siblings, what was going on in their lives, the challenges they face(d) - the baby mama drama, weight issues, etc - how she felt about the challenges and how she interacted with those particular family members. It is Michael at the core and the others on the periphery.

Now Jermaine's book is plain in its intention and I can respect that. But LaToya's book is a not coherent simply because she combined two narratives together that should not be together.

 

[Rhilo]

Crud, this is the stinkiest pile of ish I've read in a while. Thanks for the summary Ivy, I won't even bother to read it when it's available online for free. I got a headache just trying to make sense out of it, but then the person who wrote it has lost her senses.

The supposed notes, I call them BS. Latoya you are making things up, and unless you can provide evidence I'll deem them bull. Michael didn't want Joe either, and my proof is that he would have had him if he wanted him.

I highly doubt AEG offered the brothers the tour contract. I'm sure most fans would rather have had a refund than watch them perform. Seriously, you think we are that stupid?

And oh, I doubt Michael would ever want anybody in the family let alone Katherine become the executors of his Estate. Michael supposedly paid off his mother to keep her from getting involved in the BAD tour merchandise, what makes you think we'll believe the ish that he would have wanted her managing his entire estate?

And for the last time what is this family's agenda with the Estate? Is it because you got no money? Seriously give up. At this rate I'd have Branca and McClain over ANY Jackson ANY day.

This book makes it clear that Latoya and the majority in her family are still starved for attention and money more than anything else - more than real justice for Michael.

 

[Alma]

Michael's children were not confined, nor restricted, LaToya.

I'm too tired and... just tired to comment on the rest. I do feel sorry for the hellish life she led and sincerely hope she'll get better one day.. mentally, emotionally. .. And what else to say..? Sorry, Michael and children..? Does it even matter?

 

[marc_vivien]

I think there were notes about talks with Universal or Warner ?