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Faye: “I wanted it to be as private for him as possible.”
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She was also asked about contract terms that called for her to submit itemized receipts for expenses only if Jackson approved it.
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She was asked about the wigs she bought for Jackson, which she said were ventilated. She said she needed 5 wigs for the London shows.
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Faye was then asked about her contract with AEG to work with Jackson on “This Is It.” She said she wasn't paid until contract was signed.
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She said she thought Jackson was better off when Grace wasn’t living at Neverland Ranch during the trial.
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Faye was then asked about the Jackson family maid, Grace Rwaramba and her role during the molestation trial.
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Faye said they were Kenny’s words and not hers. She said she didn’t recall saying the schedule was dangerous.
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Putnam showed her an email Ortega sent to AEG exec Paul Gongaware saying Faye raised concerns about the schedule.
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Faye said she didn’t characterize it that way. “I said it wasn’t the best schedule for Michael to be successful,” she said.
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She added that she thought Jackson needed more time to recuperate. Putnam asked whether she called schedule dangerous.
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“I didn't say definitively that it was going to be a problem,” Faye said. “I said this was something we should look at.”
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Faye said she was concerned about how close together the “This Is It” shows were and she reached out to Kenny Ortega, the tour director.
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Faye recalled Jackson telling her, “’ It started out as 10 shows and then I woke up and it was 50.’”
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Faye was asked about her conversation with Jackson about the “This Is It” shows. She says the singer seemed surprised about the 50 shows.
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Putnam asked whether she found the proceedings funny. “I don’t think the case is funny at all sir,” Faye responded.
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Putnam asked if she found anything else and she quipped, “I was going through my drawers. I found some sexy things for my boyfriend and I.”
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Faye didn’t give the text messages to AEG’s lawyers. Putnam: ““I guess we’re getting them now.”
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Putnam asked Faye when she discovered the texts, and when she handed them over to plaintiff’s counsel. She said she turned them in today.
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... that helped her remember when things happened during prep for the “This Is It” tour. AEG attorney Marvin Putnam seemed surprised.
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It was about this time that the juror had an issue and court took a break. When court resumed, Karen Faye revealed she found texts (cont)
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She responded, “I thought his behavior was a little odd, but not out of the ordinary.”
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Faye said she thought his wig was too big. Putnam asked her about Jackson’s behavior.
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On seeing Jackson’s press conference announcing the London shows, Faye said, “I just thought he had a really bad hairpiece on, sir.”
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Faye on not talking to Jackson after his acquittal: “He had been through a horrible, horrible ordeal and I was by his side sir.”
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We're on the lunch break in Jackson vs. AEG Live. Court resumes at 2 p.m. Will try to get out a few more updates from the morning session.
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Looks like we're going back in session, so I'll update later.
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Faye didn’t talk to Jackson after his acquittal. Putnam asked Faye whether that upset her. “It didn’t upset me. No sir.”
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She said she talked to him every few months, but didn’t see him again until April 2009. She found out about ‘This Is It’ tour from the news.
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Putnam asked Faye about her interactions with Michael Jackson after his acquittal in the child molestation case.
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Faye said her deposition spanned five or six days. At one point, she held up her hands to show how huge the file was.
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Putnam asked whether Faye had reviewed her trial testimony. She said she hadn’t. She reviewed her deposition.
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Faye is expected to testify all day. We were only expecting about four hours of testimony today, and that was before this unexpected break.
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AEG defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam is cross-examining Faye. He started out stating it had been 7 weeks since she was last in court.
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Karen Faye remains on on the witness stand while the court is on its break. She is wearing a black dress and pearls.
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Court took a quick break about 15 minutes into the session because a juror needed a break. Said she needed to take an aspirin.
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We're about to go back in session in Jackson vs AEG Live. Karen Faye just walked into the courtroom to resume testifying.

 

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 40 - June 28 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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Faye didn't talk to MJ when he came back into the country, heard from him every 3,4, 5 months and they were like brother and sister.
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Faye said MJ never returned to Neverland after that, neither did she. She didn't see MJ in 2008 at Carolwood.
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Faye on MJ: "I understood that he wanted to leave."
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"He had been thru a horrible, horrible ordeal. Whatever he had to do to recover from that, that was fine," Faye said.
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Putnam: Were you upset you that you had been there everyday and he didn't say good bye?
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Faye got MJ ready for the criminal trial in June 2005. She didn't talk to him at the day of acquittal, he left for Bahrain.
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She didn't look at exhibits, but met with plaintiffs' counsel, Faye said.
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"I was deposed for 4 or 5 days and I talked to plaintiffs for 1 day," Faye said. She reviewed transcripts but not what she said on the stand
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Faye testified 7 weeks ago, May 10. Putnam asked her if she done anyting to prepare, like look at the transcript. She said yes, periodically
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Katherine Jackson is not in the courtroom.
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Karen Faye, MJ's hair stylist/make-up artist, is back on the stand for cross examination. AEG's attorney, Marvin Putnam, is questioning her

 

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"I think he didn't know how the schedule was, he should go a look at the schedule and how he feels about it," Faye explained.
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Faye: When I saw that there may be a problem, I did speak out, but exactly what they are talking here, I don't know
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"I had no concept of Michael's ability at this time," Faye said. "I was always protective of Michael and his well being."
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Faye agreed with the concept that she did call and expressed concern, but didn't say it was dangerous and impractical.
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Putnam showed Faye the calendar for the shows of "This Is It." She said she had not seeing it, what she saw was a list online.
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Putnam: You didn't see MJ for 4 years and thought it was a problem?
Faye: I said it could possibly be problem, I didn't say it was definite
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"He might make 1st week but it will go downhill after," Faye said. "I felt the schedule was too difficult for him to maintain"
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Faye said she learned about the tour schedule online. She doesn't recall if there was a three month break.
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"I was concern on how close the shows were together, sir" Faye said. She reached out to Kenny Ortega and Michael about it.
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Faye: You keep asking me things about dates, I'm trying to remember, I was trying to refresh my memory about things
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Faye said she was sick a couple of weeks ago and that's when she found the phone.
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Faye said she didn't even know she still had the phone. She said she looked at the texts to remember dates, turned them to defendants today
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Faye said she found some text messages related to the period, couple of days before MJ's death.
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"I thought his behavior was a little odd, but not out of the ordinary," Faye said.
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"His wig was so big," Faye said, explaining that because of her work she notices people's hair and make-up.
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Putnam: How did you think he looked?
Faye: Oh, ok. I just thought that he had a really bad hair piece on
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Faye said she remembers seeing the media following his bus, but is not sure she saw the press conference announcement live.
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Putnam: He asked you to work on the tour and you said yes?
Faye: Yes
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Faye said she knows that was part of their conversation, but wasn't sure if it was part of their first conversation.
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He was a little discouraged about the number of shows, Faye said. She told MJ they would have to work on his hair to get him ready to tour.
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Faye said MJ told her he thought it was only going to be 10 shows but when he woke up, and it was now 50.
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"We kind of laughed and chuckled. It think I mentioned in that conversation I was excited for him going back on tour," Faye testified.
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It was a really happy and light conversation, Faye recalled. "Work with me Turkle, Work with me Turkle," Faye said MJ told her.
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"He didn't give me too much information, said MJ would call me from blocked number, make sure to pick up, it had to do with tour," Faye said
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She said she didn't think it was strange that Michael had an assistant calling her. Previously, MJ would call her directly.
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Faye said she got a call from Michael Amir mid March saying he was MJ's assistant, Michael wanted her to go on the tour with him.
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Faye said she found out about "This is It" tour on the news. She wasn't surprised, MJ had mentioned he had projects.
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Faye didn't talk to MJ when he came back into the country, heard from him every 3,4, 5 months and they were like brother and sister.
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Faye said MJ never returned to Neverland after that, neither did she. She didn't see MJ in 2008 at Carolwood.
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Faye on MJ: "I understood that he wanted to leave."
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"He had been thru a horrible, horrible ordeal. Whatever he had to do to recover from that, that was fine," Faye said.
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Putnam: Were you upset you that you had been there everyday and he didn't say good bye?
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Faye got MJ ready for the criminal trial in June 2005. She didn't talk to him at the day of acquittal, he left for Bahrain.
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She didn't look at exhibits, but met with plaintiffs' counsel, Faye said.
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"I was deposed for 4 or 5 days and I talked to plaintiffs for 1 day," Faye said. She reviewed transcripts but not what she said on the stand
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Faye testified 7 weeks ago, May 10. Putnam asked her if she done anyting to prepare, like look at the transcript. She said yes, periodically
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Katherine Jackson is not in the courtroom.
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WOMAN'S STATEMENT TO JACKSON JURORS PROMPT INQUIRY
Jun. 28 9:13 PM EDT
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — A judge questioned two alternate jurors in the civil trial over Michael Jackson's death after a woman approached them and told them not to award the singer's family any money in the case.

Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos and attorneys on the case questioned the alternates, who said the woman approached them during a break Friday afternoon. Both said the woman told them not to award any money in the case against concert promoter AEG Live LLC.

The alternates said they told the woman she couldn't talk to them, but she persisted for several moments before finally leaving them alone. They described the woman but said they did not see her in the courtroom after testimony concluded Friday.

The alternate jurors said their interaction would not affect their judgment about the case. The judge told them to return to court Monday and report to bailiffs or court staffers if they saw the woman again.

Jackson family attorney Brian Panish said the interaction was jury tampering and is a felony.

Katherine Jackson mother is suing AEG Live over her son's death. The company denies wrongdoing.

The case has five alternate jurors remaining after one had to be dismissed because he is moving out of state.

 

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STYLIST WARNED JACKSON MANAGER SINGER MIGHT DIE
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY and SARAH PARVINI
— Jun. 28 8:56 PM EDT
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FILE - In this June 23, 2009 handout photo provided by AEG, pop star Michael Jackson rehearses at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Jackson's longtime makeup artist and hair stylist, Karen Faye, told a Los Angeles jury on Friday, June 28, 2013, that the entertainer was more more engaged in his final two rehearsals, but she still had concerns that he was healthy enough to pull off the premiere of his "This Is It" shows. (AP Photo/ Kevin Mazur, AEG/Getty Images, file) ** MANDATORY CREDIT. NO SALES, ARCHIVE OUT **


** ALTERNATE CROP ** In this June 23, 2009 handout photo provided by AEG, pop star Michael Jackson rehearses at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. Jackson's longtime makeup artist and hair stylist, Karen Faye, told a Los Angeles jury on Friday, June 28, 2013, that the entertainer was more more engaged in his final two rehearsals, but she still had concerns that he was healthy enough to pull off the premiere of his "This Is It" shows. (AP Photo/Kevin Mazur, AEG/Getty Images) ** MANDATORY CREDIT. NO SALES, ARCHIVE OUT **
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — Michael Jackson's longtime stylist told jurors Friday that she tried to warn the singer's manager that concert promoter AEG Live LLC would look responsible if the singer died because of numerous signs his health was declining.

Hair and makeup artist Karen Faye testified about two emails she sent to Jackson's manager Frank Dileo within the five days before the singer's death that his health was deteriorating. In one of the messages, Faye warned Dileo that he and AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips might become "villains" or "financial victims" if Jackson were to die while preparing or performing a series of comeback shows called "This Is It."

Faye said she struck a dire tone in the messages because she felt that earlier concerns about Jackson's health had been ignored.

Faye sent the warning that Jackson may die in a message on June 20, 2009 — five days before the singer died of an overdose of the anesthetic propofol. Two days later, on June 22, she sent the warning about Dileo, Phillips and tour director Kenny Ortega being held financially responsible for the entertainer's demise.

"I don't think you, Kenny, or Randy deserve becoming the villains, or the financial victims," her email states. She wrote that the message was "between you and me alone."

She told jurors she was concerned the men "could be responsible for that in some way. Just kind of like where we are right now," she said, referencing Katherine Jackson's ongoing civil case against AEG Live.

Ortega was initially sued by Jackson's mother, but was dismissed from the case.

Faye's emails described Jackson as emaciated, paranoid and unable to perform. She told jurors Friday that while the singer's performances dramatically improved in his final two rehearsals, she was still not convinced he would be able to perform the 50-concert schedule of "This Is It," let alone its premiere.

Katherine Jackson claims AEG executives missed signs about the singer's health and failed to properly investigate the doctor convicted of administering a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol.

AEG denies it hired Conrad Murray, the former physician convicted of giving Jackson an overdose of the anesthetic propofol. The company also denies it pushed Jackson to rehearse.

Faye told jurors that she was never pressured by AEG executives Randy Phillips or Paul Gongaware to get Jackson to rehearse.

The stylist testified earlier in the trial that she overheard Gongaware tell Jackson's assistant to get him out of a locked bathroom and to a rehearsal. Gongaware denies that conversation ever happened.

 

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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 11m
Here's a little more on jury tampering inquiry in the Jackson vs AEG Live case: http://bit.ly/1anli1m
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Jackson tweeps, what was the approximate final count on the number of roses delivered to Forest Lawn on June 25th this year?
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Stylist to MJ manager: "I don't think you, Kenny, or Randy deserve becoming the villains, or the financial victims." http://bit.ly/11TcCrl
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Emails Karen Faye wrote to Jackson manager's Frank Dileo weren't shown until last 35-45 mins of testimony.Story here: http://bit.ly/11TcCrl
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It was a wild end to the trial day in Jackson vs AEG, with court having to look into jury tampering incident.
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Stylist warned Michael Jackson singer might die, he and AEG exec may become 'villains': http://bit.ly/11TcCrl (updated @AP story)
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Court looking into woman who approached 2 alternate jurors in Jackson vs AEG case: http://bit.ly/12se6vY Incident called jury tampering
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Faye: “I wanted it to be as private for him as possible.”
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She was also asked about contract terms that called for her to submit itemized receipts for expenses only if Jackson approved it.
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She was asked about the wigs she bought for Jackson, which she said were ventilated. She said she needed 5 wigs for the London shows.
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Faye was then asked about her contract with AEG to work with Jackson on “This Is It.” She said she wasn't paid until contract was signed.
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She said she thought Jackson was better off when Grace wasn’t living at Neverland Ranch during the trial.
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Faye was then asked about the Jackson family maid, Grace Rwaramba and her role during the molestation trial.
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Faye said they were Kenny’s words and not hers. She said she didn’t recall saying the schedule was dangerous.
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Putnam showed her an email Ortega sent to AEG exec Paul Gongaware saying Faye raised concerns about the schedule.
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Faye said she didn’t characterize it that way. “I said it wasn’t the best schedule for Michael to be successful,” she said.
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She added that she thought Jackson needed more time to recuperate. Putnam asked whether she called schedule dangerous.
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“I didn't say definitively that it was going to be a problem,” Faye said. “I said this was something we should look at.”
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Faye said she was concerned about how close together the “This Is It” shows were and she reached out to Kenny Ortega, the tour director.
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Faye recalled Jackson telling her, “’ It started out as 10 shows and then I woke up and it was 50.’”
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Faye was asked about her conversation with Jackson about the “This Is It” shows. She says the singer seemed surprised about the 50 shows.
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Putnam asked whether she found the proceedings funny. “I don’t think the case is funny at all sir,” Faye responded.
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Putnam asked if she found anything else and she quipped, “I was going through my drawers. I found some sexy things for my boyfriend and I.”
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Faye didn’t give the text messages to AEG’s lawyers. Putnam: ““I guess we’re getting them now.”
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Putnam asked Faye when she discovered the texts, and when she handed them over to plaintiff’s counsel. She said she turned them in today.
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... that helped her remember when things happened during prep for the “This Is It” tour. AEG attorney Marvin Putnam seemed surprised.
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It was about this time that the juror had an issue and court took a break. When court resumed, Karen Faye revealed she found texts (cont)
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She responded, “I thought his behavior was a little odd, but not out of the ordinary.”
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Faye said she thought his wig was too big. Putnam asked her about Jackson’s behavior.
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On seeing Jackson’s press conference announcing the London shows, Faye said, “I just thought he had a really bad hairpiece on, sir.”
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Faye on not talking to Jackson after his acquittal: “He had been through a horrible, horrible ordeal and I was by his side sir.”
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We're on the lunch break in Jackson vs. AEG Live. Court resumes at 2 p.m. Will try to get out a few more updates from the morning session.
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Faye didn’t talk to Jackson after his acquittal. Putnam asked Faye whether that upset her. “It didn’t upset me. No sir.”
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She said she talked to him every few months, but didn’t see him again until April 2009. She found out about ‘This Is It’ tour from the news.
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Putnam asked Faye about her interactions with Michael Jackson after his acquittal in the child molestation case.
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Faye said her deposition spanned five or six days. At one point, she held up her hands to show how huge the file was.
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Putnam asked whether Faye had reviewed her trial testimony. She said she hadn’t. She reviewed her deposition.
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Faye is expected to testify all day. We were only expecting about four hours of testimony today, and that was before this unexpected break.
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AEG defense attorney Marvin S. Putnam is cross-examining Faye. He started out stating it had been 7 weeks since she was last in court.
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Karen Faye remains on on the witness stand while the court is on its break. She is wearing a black dress and pearls.
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Court took a quick break about 15 minutes into the session because a juror needed a break. Said she needed to take an aspirin.
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We're about to go back in session in Jackson vs AEG Live. Karen Faye just walked into the courtroom to resume testifying.

 

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 40 - June 28 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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Attorneys and judge went into sidebar. Then Faye was excused, subject to recall.
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Faye said on June 18 Michael was almost catatonic, stoic, appeared scared to die.
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Faye said she discussed with mortician MJ's body weight. Panish asked if he looked worse than on June 19. Faye responded: "He was dead, sir"
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"I was quite sure he was deteriorating, sir" Faye said. "I had no idea what was going on, but there was something very, very wrong."
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Putnam questioned Faye for 5 days in deposition related to Lloyds of London lawsuit. There were no lawyer representing the Jacksons.
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Faye said MJ was scared, paranoid, pressure on the last two weeks of his life.
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MJ went to rehearsal on June 18 but arrived late, Faye said. Ortega was very angry Michael was late to rehearsal.
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Panish asked if someone has died after getting make-up. "I never even burned someone with a hot iron, sir," Faye responded.
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Panish: Did you take the Hippocratic oath when you became a make-up artist?
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Panish: Were you being paid $150,000 a month?
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"He was burned a long time ago, had damage to his scalp," Faye said about MJ needing wig. "He had 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree burn."
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Panish: Who did you negotiate your contract with?
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Faye agreed with Bugzee that MJ was deteriorating in front of everyone eyes.

"He was not in good physical shape on June 19," Faye said.
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Panish: Did you think that MJ needed some medical assistance that time?
Faye: Absolutely
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Panish: Were you seeing Michael not able to sing and dance on June 16?
Faye: Yes, sir
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Phillips responded:
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In an email on July 1, 2009, Faye expressed concern to Randy Phillips about footage of MJ shuffling and wrapping around in blankets
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Email cont'd: Michael's OCD is getting worse. He repeats his actions and rambles words constantly.
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Faye's email to DiLeo:
Michael is painfully thin... His bones are protruding. I'm one person that has physical contact ith him very day.
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Putnam asked about her saying it was between the two alone, and she said her intention was for someone to help Michael.
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No response from Frank DiLeo or anybody else, Faye said.
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Faye said she was trying to get their attention to do something. "I was desperate. I wanted a therapist for Michael."
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"This is between you and me alone," Faye wrote in the email to DiLeo. "I am leaving this in your hands as you have instructed me to do."
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"I don't think you, Kenny or Randy deserve becoming the villains, or the financial victims," Faye wrote.
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"He hurts himself most of all," Faye wrote. Putnam asked what she meant by that and Faye said "He's dead!"
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Faye said she thought there was some sort of fear with MJ.
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"I thought the best pathway, he needed some psychological help," Faye explained. "I'm trying to figure out what is going on."
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"It seems like he is setting himself up to be the victim," Faye wrote in the email to DiLeo.
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"I felt desperate when I wrote this email, because I felt I wasn't being heard or acknowledged," Faye said.
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Faye added:
When he asked me to do this in May and met with him. I saw a slender but strong and coherent Michael Jackson.
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Another fan email forwarded on June 22 from Faye to DiLeo saying MJ was too thin.
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Email cont'd: I'm fearful he I'll make himself so sick be will die. If he doesn't do this show he has no where else to go...
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Faye wrote in the email: Frank... Unfortunate she's right.
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Email Faye sent to Frank DiLeo was a note from a fan concerned with MJ's weight on June 20, 2009.
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Putnam: Did you think MJ was self-sabotaging?
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Faye said MJ talked about the tour seemed he was trying to convince himself to do it. "It was always like he was talking himself into it."
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Faye testified earlier in the case that MJ didn't take no for answer. She said it had to do specifically with her work.
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Faye said the first time she heard about Propofol was after MJ died. She was surprised about it.
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Faye said MJ believed in doctors and that wherever they prescribed he thought it was ok.
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Putnam asked if Faye and MJ knew each other well. Faye said he thought so.
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Faye did not express any of her concerns to MJ's family remembers.

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"He would pretend everything was ok" Faye said. But she never asked MJ if he was ok since she thought he wasn't in the state of mind for it
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"I was voicing my opinions and what I thought and I wasn't getting too much response, sir," Faye said.
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Faye said she was a bit upset that no one seemed to have been listening to her back in June 2009.
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"Because Michael had lost so much weight and he kept losing weight. 136 lbs was a lot for MJ," Faye explained.
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Putnam: Did you think it was impossible for him to weigh that much?
Faye: Yes
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Putnam asked Faye about the fact that Coroner's report saying MJ was 136 lbs at the time of his death.
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Faye said people who didn't know MJ very well would probably not realize he lost lots of weight because of the several layers of clothes.
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Faye said that in Mar/Apr she told Michael she was concerned with his weight. She never talked to him about it during last weeks of his life
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"Michael wasn't very coherent that week to have a discussion like that," Faye said.
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Putnam: Were you observing Mr. Jackson becoming thinner and thinner?
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Putnam: Did you say he lost 10-15 lbs the last week of his life?
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"Lisa Marie Presley and I became friends and she told me MJ liked to be at 120 pounds," Faye said.
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"I wasn't concerned for his weight for everyday life, but I was concert for his performance weight," Faye explained.
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"He was still cold, but his spirt was better, sir," Faye said.
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Faye said there was hope, though."I saw more of Michael, he was laughing, I saw him participating, yes, there was some relief."
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Putnam: So you didn't think he could be ready after watching those rehearsals?
Faye: No

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Faye explained MJ didn't gain any weight, there were changes that needed to be done to get him ready, perhaps if they could delay it a bit.
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Putnam: You didn't think he was ready to go?
Faye: Oh no
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Putnam asked if Faye thought MJ would be ready to tour after those rehearsals. She responded "oh no, oh no!"
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Putnam: How about the 24th?
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Putnam: Did you think MJ had a good rehearsal on June 23?
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Faye said she didn't remember what she said to MJ, it was probably how are you doing, probably addressed him very casually.
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Faye said she didn't have an opportunity to talk to anybody on June 22 about MJ and she didn't want to ask the children.
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Faye said Alvarez didn't want to stay on the phone, had to go and hung up.
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"I made a phone call to security Alberto Alvarez on Saturday and asked him to watch MJ very closely that I was concerned," Faye testified.
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"I was very concerned during this period of time, I was very, very frightened," Faye explained. She said she had horrible thoughts.
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June 23 was the first time they were at Staples Center.

Faye said she was extremely concerned with MJ's health on June 19th.
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Faye said she wasn't around Phillips a lot, so she didn't recall Phillips telling anyone to get MJ on stage to rehearse.
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Faye: He told me he wanted to build a wall around Michael so he doesn't want to do anything but get to rehearsal
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Putnam: Did you ever observe Randy Phillips tell anyone to get MJ on stage to rehearse?
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Putnam: Did Paul Gongaware ever personally instruct you to never listen to MJ?
Faye: No
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Faye: No
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Putnam: Did Paul Gongaware ever pressure you to get MJ on stage?
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Putnam: Did Randy Phillips ever pressure you to get MJ on stage?
Faye: No
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Faye said she saw MJ down to t-shirt several times, since she had to wire MJ, put wires and battery packs on him.
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Regarding the fitting day, where MJ wore t-shirt and shoulder piece, Faye said she was there but didn't see him when they did the fitting.
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Faye said she can't recall ever having a conversation with Ortega about Dr. Klein.
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"I didn't know Conrad Murray at that particular point other than expressed the concern of what I think Michael needed," Faye said.
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Putnam: Did you express to KO any concern you had about Dr. Conrad Murray?
Faye: Yes, that he wasn't a psychologist
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Faye said she had a conversation with Kenny Ortega about Dr. Murray. She never asked about Dr. Klein.
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"I was really getting worried about Michael's psychological state," Faye said.
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Faye said she expressed that concern to Frank DiLeo, MJ's manager at the time.

Faye never spoke with MJ about it.
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That concerned her, Faye said. "Because of the past, when I'd see doctors get involved in Michael's life," Faye explained.
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Faye said they said Jackson's security confirmed MJ was seeing Dr. Klein maybe 3-4 days a week.
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"Because in the media, there were reports that he had gone to Dr. Klein," Faye explained. "What I asked is how often he went there."
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"I was kind on the lookout for doctors getting involved," Faye explained.

Putnam asked why Faye inquired specifically about Dr. Klein.
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"I asked Michael's security if he was going to see Dr. Klein," Faye testified.
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"It wasn't the MJ at 29, but he did Billie Jean and it was MJ, everyone was really excited about that," Faye said about rehearsals in June.
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Faye said she was so concerned she brought an old time MJ's cook who had a restaurant nearby to bring him food.
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"It's thinness was still bothering me," Faye testified. "He wasn't gaining anything, that was a concern."
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"I noticed some physical things that were odd," Fayed recalled.

Faye said rehearsal was really, really dried and that kind of bothered her
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"In compared to how I used to know him, it was little different, I can't say it was exactly how it used to be," Fay said.
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Faye doesn't recall how many times a week she saw MJ from March to June.

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Faye said she worked in a bedroom downstairs at the Carolwood house, never went to the second floor bedrooms.
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"I was researching all the adhesives available, trying to figure out ways to have my job be successful," Faye said.
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Putnam asked Faye what she did in April and May 2009 to prepare for the tour. She said she attended productions meetings at Center Staging
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Putnam asked if AEG did financial check on her if they'd find problems. Plaintiffs objected, asserting witness's privacy. Judge sustained it
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Faye said she saw information about the trial on the news and internet.

She worked with MJ for 27 years.
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"No, there was no background check done on me," Faye said, explaining she knows the background check is one of the issued of the trial.
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Putnam: Did they do a background check on you?
Faye laughed out loud and said, you're so funny. I don't think so
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Putnam: Did you work for Michael Jackson?
Faye: He requested me, sir, he called me and asked me
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"Ortega demanded Michael to take off sunglasses, they gave me orders sir, but not pertaining to make-up and hair," Faye said.
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"I think I was giving her something to take care of all my business and pay bills, but can't recall the amount," Faye said.
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Faye said one of MJ assistants would some times give her skin creams to give to MJ.
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The Propecia rejuvenated hair on men's scalp, Faye said, and she needed as much healthy hair as possible.
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Faye said Latisse and Propecia prescriptions for Michael were under her name.
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Botox inhibits sweating, so Faye thought MJ could have Botox injection on his scalp and he wouldn't sweat, the wig would stay on.
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"It meant Michael didn't want anybody to know he wore a wig," Faye said.

Faye requested the wig receipt be as discreet ad possible.
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Faye said she needed probably 5 wigs, each costing $3,500. She said it was a long process to get one ready, needed reserves for emergency.
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Faye said MJ liked privacy.

"When you do somebody's hair there's a lot of things involved and he didn't want people to see it," Faye said.
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"I don't know where they were going to put me," she explained. "I wanted to make sure they could get to me if they needed."
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Faye said she needed to be able to get to MJ, so she asked in the contract to be close to him.
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"The process of his hair took a long time," Faye said.
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Faye: I worked for This Is It and the production of the tour
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Putnam: Did you have an understating as to whether or not you were an employee of AEG Live?
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Putnam said the contract with between the company of her Tania's company, not Faye.
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Faye said a lot of her information came through Tania and their concerns. Tania took care of Faye's businesses affairs.
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"They were going to throw him in jail if he didn't get there on time," Faye said.
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"The judge was informing MJ he had to go to court or he would be sent to jail" Faye said. So he went to court in pajamas, couldn't get ready
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That day, Michael went to the hospital because something happened to his back and they gave him some pain killers, Faye testified.
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Faye explained the day during the criminal trial MJ went to court wearing pajamas one day.
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"I just noticed that Michael started having a lot of back pain" Faye said. "With the symptoms of losing a lot of weight, and the pajama day"
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"Michael seemed to have more difficult time when Grace was brought back to Neverland," Faye said, referring to the time of criminal trial.
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"As her responsibilities grew, she kind of stood in the way, it seems she always tried to keep me away from Michael," Faye said about Grace.
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"I really, really loved Grace when I first met her," Faye said. "I adored her, I was really happy Michael used her as the nanny."
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She testified she needed to get some funds to start working on MJ's wigs and was told to speak with Dr. Tohme.
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Faye said she worked with a wig maker and they both went to Carolwood to see MJ. "Sir, we needed to prepare for the show, sir."
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Faye: I just wanted him to make sure he knew the schedule and if he was comfortable with it
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"By the conversation I had with him, he didn't seem to know the structure, only that it was 50 days," Faye said about MJ.
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"That's funny, my mother said the same thing," Faye said MJ told her.
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"I think he didn't know how the schedule was, he should go a look at the schedule and how he feels about it," Faye explained.

 

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 40 - June 28 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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And that ended Day 40 of the trial. We hope to see you all on Monday. Have a great weekend everyone!
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Jurors looked in the courtroom and didn't find the woman. They are ordered to report to the court if they ever see her again.
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Panish: That person committed a felony, jury tampering
Judge: I agree
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Alt 5 said this episode will not affect his decision in this case. She is probably caucasian, he said, 30-40, can't remember hair color
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Alt 5: I walked away, paid no attention. Seemed like someone I hadn't seen before, not a reporter
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"Please don't give anyone any money," she told the jurors. She was wearing red pants, bow or bandana on her hair, light skin.
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Alt juror said he walked away, alt juror 1 addressed her. She said something about friends and case, he told the judge.
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Alt 5: She was staring and staring. "I know you guys are the jurors in MJ," he said she told them. "I just wanted to tell you something."
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Alternate 5 described what he saw:
After the break, we were by the pay phones in front of the elevator area, had not seen her before.
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Judge: Does that have any impact on you?
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Juror said he has never seeing her before, this happened at the last break in the afternoon.
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"M'am I don't want to hear you, go away, go away, bye," alt juror 1 said he told the woman. She eventually walked toward the escalator.
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Alt 1: She was standing there, not leaving, we walked away towards the hallway. She followed us, "I just want to say don't award money"
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Alt 1 responded that she shouldn't be talking to them. The woman told him she knows the truth. He told her seriously you need 2 stop talking
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Alt 1 cont'd: He said she told him she just wanted to say something: "I just want to tell you not to award those people any money"
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Alt 1 cont'd:
Seemed she wanted to listen to whatever she could hear. Stood there for a while, alone. I told alt 5 she's trying to hear us.
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Alt 1:
Me and alt 5 standing by water fountain, there was a woman in red pants, white shirt, standing by restroom by the escalators.
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Judge asked Alternates 1 and 5 to explain what had happened.
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Outside the presence of the jury, court assistant told judge a woman wearing red pants approached two alternate jurors in the hallway.
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Court resumes on Monday at 9:30 am PT. Jackson's attorney said he's trying to get Taj to come back.

 

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 40 - June 28 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Michael Jackson's makeup artist testifies in wrongful death trial
Friday, June 28, 2013

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LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Karen Faye, one of the people closest to Michael Jackson, was back on the witness stand Friday to undergo cross-examination in the Jackson family's wrongful death trial against concert promoter AEG Live. Faye was Jackson's hair stylist and makeup artist for 27 years.

Faye testified about warning AEG execs that Jackson was too thin a month before Jackson's comeback tour was to launch. She told jurors when she first testified seven weeks ago that a costume fitter told her that Jackson was so thin, his heart was visibly beating under his skin.

Now under cross examination by the AEG attorney, details emerged that rebut many of her earlier statements. Defense attorney Marvin Putnam asked Faye if she would be surprised that Jackson weighed 136 pounds when he died.

Faye's response: "136 pounds would be good for Michael."

Faye had testified, too, that she was scared for Jackson on June 19, saying six days before he died, he was shivering and unable to rehearse. Three days later, Jackson was back on stage doing Billy Jean.

Putnam asked Faye how Jackson's performance was on the 23rd.

Her response: "It was much improved."

Putnam asked, "Did it restore your hope?"

Faye replied, "Oh yeah."

Faye qualified her answer by saying she still thought the concert schedule was too strenuous. The defense showed jurors a calendar that said 10 days a month max, as few as three, with a break after three months, and Jackson would not have to travel. He would stay in one arena.

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Katherine Jackson and the star's three children are suing AEG execs Randy Phillips and Paul Gongaware. The Jackson family alleges that AEG hired and then failed to supervise the doctor who was treating Jackson nightly with a surgical anesthetic to help the singer sleep. Jackson died from an overdose of propofol.

The plaintiffs say that Jackson's anxiety was generated by the tour promoters. The defense asked Faye directly if Phillips or Gongaware every personally pressured her to get Jacskon on the stage. Her answer was no.

 

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 41 - July 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 41 - July 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Use this thread to post any and all news stories from day 41 of Katherine Jackson vs. AEG trial.

Daily news threads are merged into the main News thread in the stickies

Please help the staff by posting all the news stories as well as tweets from media you see.

Please Don't post updates or tweets from Fans in news thread

 

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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 34m
In forming her opinion, Seawright said she relied on the testimony of Dr. Matheson and other witnesses during the trial.
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Panish questioned whether the absence of a criminal record would be enough of a check. Seawright said no.
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She would have also recommended a verification of Murray’s Social Security information.
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Seawright said in Murray’s case, she would have recommended the following checks: criminal, credit and driving history.
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The factors included Murray working in Jackson’s home, having access to confidential info and the singer’s family and giving medical care.
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She said she would have considered Murray performing a high-risk job due to several factors.
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Panish asked whether Seawright believed AEG followed adequate hiring practices. She said the company didn’t follow good hiring practices.
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Attorney Brian Panish asked Seawright a hypothetical question. He told her to assume AEG Live hired Conrad Murray at MJ’s request.
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Doing background checks is relatively inexpensive, Seawright said. A Social Security number check might cost $5, criminal check up to $30.
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Seawright said she doesn’t advise different procedures for checking the background of an employee vs an independent contractor.
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Seawright is being paid $300 an hour to testify and has done approximately 100 hours of work on the case so far.
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The worker had a previous murder conviction, but no background check had been done, Seawright said.
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She has testified in around 16 court cases, including one in which an employee killed a supervisor.
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Seawright has her own HR-consulting company based in Florida, but has clients in different parts of the case.
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We’re on a break in Jackson vs. AEG Live. First witness today is a human resources expert, Jean Seawright.

 

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 41 - July 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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To get a credit report, you have to have the individual's consent, Seawright said.
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Moreover, Dr. Murray would be providing medical care to MJ, and AEG should've checked him out, the expert opined.
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Seawright said Dr. Murray was going to be in MJ's house, would have exposure to confidential information, so he needed to be checked out.
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MJ was just a referral of Dr. Murray, Seawright said, and AEG should've done further investigations on him.
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As to Dr. Murray, Seawright said AEG should have done, at minimum, a credit check.
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She said credit checks are inexpensive, cost between $5-8 and takes about 5 minutes to get the report.
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Seawright explained the problem is not the debt at all, it's the fact you are in default of the debt, that you haven't met your obligations.
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The expert explained the credit check is used to determine whether or not the person met all his/her obligations, if there had any default.
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"The email is a recognition by Mr. Phillips to hire someone who doesn't need the gig," Seawright opined.
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No matter what business you are, you need to follow HR protocols, Seawright said.
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Seawright said entertainment companies are not different from others, HR is practice across businesses lines to find fit, competent workers
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She said Phillips acknowledged what the criteria was, that they needed someone ethical and unbiased.
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Seawright talked about Phillips' email where he said Dr. Murray was extremely successful and didn't need the gig.
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Panish: Did you see anything that qualified Dr. Murray as extremely successful?
Seawright: I saw nothing that was done to determine that
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"You can't just always take people's word" Seawright explained, saying that until you check their credentials you don't know if they are fit
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"I did not see any evidence in my review of documents and testimony," Seawright said about AEG checking Dr. Murray's medical license.
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Seawright opined that just including in the contract that Dr. Murray needed to be licensed is not sufficient to determine his competency.
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Seawright said background checking minimizes the risk of hiring someone.
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Panish: Could independent contractors cause the same damage as employees?
Seawright: Yes
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Seawright said the label of the employee doesn't change the fact that the company is responsible for the hiring of fit and competent person
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Seawright went through all the procedures AEG has in place to hire independent contractors and said most of their process only protects AEG.
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The expert said that looking at someone's professional license is not enough to qualify a potential worker.
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Seawright said there are risks involving employees who are not necessarily dealing with money.
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Panish showed a chart of AEG's process to check out people, which separates employees from independent contractors.
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She said she saw no evidence of AEG conducting checks on Dr. Murray.
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"Had that happened, Dr. Murray would not be able to continue to work, he was in a conflict of interest," Seawright continued.
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"Dr. Murray was in position of administering medical care but was paid by company that had the ability to stop the tour," Seawright said.
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"I'd recommend criminal background check, credit and motor vehicle check and a social security verification on Dr. Murray," Seawright said.
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Seawright: The organization knows the potential to harm the artist, they have information about the parties, which would elevate the risk.
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"Yes indeed, it would elevate the risk even higher," Seawright answered.
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Panish asked assuming Paul Gongaware knew MJ had prescription drug issues, would that knowledge be critical in hiring a doctor for MJ?
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Seawright explained smart hiring process, which can minimize the risks and hire a competent and fit employee.
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Depending on the reports, the cost can be as low as $5, background check from $10-15, $25 with other fees, Seawright testified.
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She said that knowing the background of workers diminish the risks of the hiring.
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"It's important to understand what the history of what an individual is before hiring them," Seawright explained.
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"You can't manage what you don't know," Seawright said.
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"The same risks exist, regardless of the label," Seawright explained.
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Seawright said she doesn't differentiate independent contractors and company employees, since it's just a classification/label of a worker.
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She said her goal is to hire workers who are fit for the position and who are not going to put themselves or others at risk.
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Seawright has never works in the music or show producing industry, but said that she's qualified to testify since HR principles are the same
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She charges $300/hour and has works a little over 100 hours in this case, Seawright testified.
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Seawright has testified in approximately 16 cases. Being an expert witness composes about 10% of her company's revenue.
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Seawright said there are several types of background check, including driving, criminal, credit and social security check.
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Seawright has BS in Chemistry, has consulted in the field of HR for 25 years, advising owners and managers of human resources practices.
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She has clients in various line of businesses: pest control, law firms, restaurants, car dealerships, hospitals, etc.
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Seawright said human resources relates to the people and the workers in a business.
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She has her own company, helps clients find, hire, train, compensate, terminate workers; basically the entire life cycle of an employment.
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Jackson's attorney, Brian Panish, is questioning Jean Seawright, a Human Resources consultant.
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Hello from the courthouse in downtown LA. Day 41 of Jackson family vs AEG trial underway. Plaintiffs called a new witness on the stand.
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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 41 - July 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Prince, Blanket Jackson celebrate dad's life amid death trial
By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 5:21 PM EDT, Mon July 1, 2013
Michael Jackson, the King of Pop, died on June 25, 2009. Four years after their father's death, Jackson's children -- Prince, Paris and Prince II, aka Blanket -- have stepped into the spotlight to honor their father's memory and create careers and identities of their own. One of the world's first glimpses at the kids was when photographers caught them leaning out of a limousine in Los Angeles in 2000. Here are more moments growing up Jackson:
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NEW: AEG Live did "fail to follow adequate hiring practices," expert says
Prince and Blanket attend Cirque du Soleil's "Michael Jackson One" premiere in Las Vegas
Two jurors tell judge a woman approached them during a court break Friday
"She mentioned 'Please don't give anyone any money,'" one juror says
Los Angeles (CNN) -- A business management expert testified Monday as lawyers try to prove Michael Jackson's last concert promoter is liable in the singer's death.
Human resources consultant Jean Seawright's analysis of AEG Live's hiring practices may lack the drama of last week's testimony by Jackson's oldest son, but it could be crucial for proving that the company negligently hired, retained or supervised Dr. Conrad Murray.
The trial of the lawsuit filed by Jackson's mother and three children began its tenth week with their lawyers nearing the end of their case. AEG Live lawyers are expected to start presenting their defense around July 15.
AEG Live contends that Michael Jackson, not its executives, chose and controlled Murray, who is serving a prison sentence for an involuntary manslaughter conviction.
Prince Jackson testifies against AEG Doctor: Jackson had no REM sleep Paris: Michael said nanny 'lied a lot' Compare Michael Jackson in 2001 to 2009
If the jury decides that AEG Live executives have responsibility for Jackson's death from an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol, they will then have to decide how much he might have earned in the years he didn't get to live.
Nephew: Jackson was murdered
Prince and Blanket dancing
Jurors would have learned a lot about Michael Jackson's work and worth if they had traveled with the Jackson family to Las Vegas over the weekend for the premiere of Cirque du Soleil's "Michael Jackson One" show.
Prince, 16, and Blanket, 11, sang and danced while watching the Cirque celebration of their father's music and life in a Mandalay Bay Casino theater. Paris, 15, was unable to attend because she is still hospitalized since last month's suicide attempt.
The children never saw their father perform live, one of his motivations for attempting his comeback concerts, but thanks to technology Jackson appeared to be back on stage for a ghostly performance of "Man in the Mirror."
Prince's appearance at the opening of the permanent show, which is different from Cirque's traveling "Immortal" show, came three days after he appeared in court to tell jurors about his father's life and last days.
His father often cried after talking to AEG Live executives as he prepared for his comeback concerts, his oldest son testified Wednesday.
"After he got off the phone, he would cry," Prince Jackson testified. "He would say 'They're going to kill me, they're going to kill me.'"
His father told him he was talking about AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips and his ex-manager, Dr. Tohme Tohme, Prince said.
Negligent hiring?
Seawright, who has worked as a human resources consultant for businesses for nearly 25 years was paid $300 an hour by Jackson lawyers to review documents and testimony on the wrongful death case. After about 100 hours, she said she reached an opinion about if AEG Live's hiring of Dr. Murray was negligent.
"They did indeed fail to follow adequate hiring practices," she testified Monday.
Serving as a personal doctor for Michael Jackson was "a very high risk position" that warranted a background check to determine if Murray was fit for the job, competent to do the work and did not have a conflict of interest, Seawright testified.
Jackson lawyers contend that Murray's deep debt, which included $1 million in foreclosures and judgments, made him conflicted since he could lose his $150,000 a month job if Jackson didn't make to rehearsals and perform his concerts.
A simple credit check -- taking five minutes and costing less than $10 -- would have revealed the conflict of interest, she said.
Credit checks are routine for many companies hiring for high-risk positions, she said.
A key piece of evidence used by the Jackson lawyers is an e-mail sent by AEG Live CE Randy Phillips to "This Is It" show director Kenny Ortega on June 20, 2009 -- five days before Michael Jackson died from an overdose of propofol administered by Murray.
"This doctor is extremely successful (we check everyone out) and does not need this gig so he is totally unbiased and ethical," Philips wrote in an effort to assure Ortega Jackson was in good hands with Dr. Murray.
Seawright testified that she found no evidence the company did anything to check out Dr Murray for fitness, competence or any conflict of interest that might lead him to provide unsafe treatments.
AEG Live argues that it never hired Murray, but simply negotiated with him on Jackson's behalf.
Seawrght said companies have the same obligation in hiring, whether for a regular employee or and independent contractor.
Jury tampering?
Jurors can expect to be watched more closely by court bailiffs after an incident near the end of Friday's session. Two alternate jurors told the judge that a woman approached them during a court break.
"She mention 'Please don't give anyone any money,'" alternate juror No. 1 said.
Alternate juror No. 5 quoted the woman, saying "I just wanted to say not to award them any money."
While the woman apparently was opposed to the Jackson's lawsuit seeking billions of dollars in damages, AEG Live lawyer Marvin Putnam used the incident to suggest that the judge should crack down on Michael Jackson fans who wear Jackson shirts and carry signs of support for Katherine Jackson in the court hallway.
Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos rejected Putnam's request, saying Jackson fans have free speech rights that she cannot limit.
Both alternate jurors said the incident would not affect their ability to make an impartial decision in the case.

 

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Since a lot of the testimony was about as interesting as your last HR-training session, updates are going to be sporadic this afternoon.
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It now appears that HR expert Jean Seawright won't finish testifying today.
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Judge Yvette Palazuelos said she would wait to strike the printout and discussion from the record until she hears more about it tomorrow.
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He wanted the printout and comments about it made in front of the jury stricken from the record, but judge refused for now.
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Panish was extremely upset during the sidebar, saying Stebbins Bina and the judge erred by showing the printout to jury.
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Stebbins Bina acknowledged during the sidebar that she wasn't sure if the printout was a federal regulation, so she'll check on it tonight.
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Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish objected, and pointed out the printout doesn’t have a date on it. He said doc shouldn’t have been shown.
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Stebbins Bina showed the jury a printout from the EEOC website that she said showed the agency prohibited credit checks.
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AEG attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina asked Seawright about whether the EEOC now prohibits credit checks.
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Before the break, there was a tense session outside the jury’s presence on EEOC guidelines with regard to credit checks.
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A couple of the jurors seemed to be struggling to stay away during Seawright’s cross-examination.
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Seawright said the dictionary definition didn’t totally define what an independent contractor was. Seawright wouldn't define the term.
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The effort to define independent contractor prompted a lengthy sidebar. Afterward, Stebbins Bina read a definition from the dictionary.
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Stebbins Bina tried to get Seawright to define the term “Independent contractor.” Seawright said there wasn’t a standard definition.
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She said the Jackson vs AEG Live case is the first one where a person’s credit history was an issue. Other cases involved criminal history.
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Correction from an earlier tweet -- Seawright has consulted on approximately 16 cases, but only testified in two of them.
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The following updates are from the afternoon session. Seawright was questioned by AEG Live defense lawyer Jessica Stebbins Bina.
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AEG Live’s lawyers objected to some of the questions Seawright was being asked, but judge allowed her to respond to most of them.
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Seawright said at the minimum, AEG Live should have done a credit check on Conrad Murray.
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She said using a process like AEG employed could lead to harm. She said an independent contractor can cause as much harm as an employee.
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She said requiring an independent contractor to be fully insured and indemnifying AEG from liability benefited the company.
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The processes included relying on a previous working relationship with AEG, or being known to the artist.
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There were seven items on the procedures for Independent Contractors. Seawright wrote that none were standard practices.
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Seawright said some of the processes including on the AEG exhibit were standard practices. Others were not.
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Panish gave Seawright a red marker and asked her to write whether they were processes that reflect standard human resources practices.
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The board was titled “AEG Process to Check Out People.” It drew distinctions between employees and independent contractors.
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Panish displayed a board with a blowup of an AEG Live exhibit that their corporate attorney, Shawn Trell, used in his testimony.
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The next few updates are from the morning update. Cross examination tweets are from the afternoon session, FYI.
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Coming up are a few additional updates from testimony in Jackson vs AEG Live case. HR expert Jean Seawright is still on the stand.

 

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 41 - July 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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AEG's attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina did cross examination.
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Panish: Do you know any special rules that apply to AEG Live?
Seawright: No

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Seawright said AEG could've run Dr. Murray's background and would've gotten the same information Det. Martinez received.
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Dr. Murray had three different social security numbers in his credit report, according to LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez.
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"Being in debt is just having debt," Seawright explained. "But default is not paying the debts."
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Panish: Could AEG have done a background check on Dr. Murray?
Seawright: There's no question they could've done that, if they wanted to
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Another part of the survey related to employees working at people's homes, in which 30% employers conduct credit checks, Seawright testified
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During deposition, AEG's attorney Jessica Bina showed study where out of 158 employers 3 % indicated they did credit check in healthcare.
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The expert analyzed an email from outside counsel Kathy Jorrie to Phillips recommending background check on Dr. Tohme.
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Katherine Jackson is not present in court today.

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AEG didn't properly check Conrad Murray's background, witness says

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By Kate Mather
July 1, 2013, 1:39 p.m.
Entertainment group AEG did not properly check Dr. Conrad Murray’s background before bringing him on board for Michael Jackson’s ill-fated “This Is It” tour, a human-resources consultant testified Monday.

Jean Seawright, head of the Florida-based Seawright & Associates consulting group, said that based on her review of the case, AEG Live “did indeed fail to follow adequate hiring practices” in the selection of Murray, regardless if he was considered a company employee or independent contractor.

Seawright, an expert witness retained by the attorneys representing Jackson’s mother and three children in their wrongful death lawsuit, said her testimony came under the assumption that AEG hired Murray, who gave the singer a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol in 2009. The jury will ultimately determine which party retained the doctor. Jackson’s family alleges AEG hired and controlled Murray, while AEG maintains he worked for Jackson.


Murray is serving time in prison for involuntary manslaughter.
Seawright called the role of Jackson's personal physician a “very high-risk position” given the responsibilities of the job – such as accessing the singer's medical history and personal life, working remotely and providing medical care.

Companies following appropriate hiring practices assess the risks of a position before hiring, she said. When asked by Jackson family attorney Brian Panish if she thought AEG had done so in this case, Seawright said she “saw no evidence of that.”

Seawright then testified about an email from AEG Chief Executive Randy Phillips to tour director Kenny Ortega, in which Phillips said Murray was “extremely successful” – noting “we check everyone out” – and “does not need this gig, so he is totally unbiased and ethical.”

Seawright said that email indicated Phillips understood the criteria for the job and that AEG had a process in place for examining its workers. When asked if she saw evidence indicating the company in fact “checked out” Murray’s background, she replied: “I did not.”

Ultimately, she said, the email indicated AEG was in a "sort of trap … where if you don’t check out a worker adequately, then you are in a situation like this.”

“It was Mr. Phillips saying what he hoped was the case but we later found out was not the case,” she said.

 

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 41 - July 1 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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The plan is to have Taj Jackson back on Wednesday. There's no trial on Thursday and Friday due to the holiday.
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Dr. Sidney Schnoll, addiction specialist, is also scheduled for tomorrow. He will talk about MJ's prescription drug dependency
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Judge adjourned court for the day. Jurors ordered back tomorrow at 10:00 am PT. Seawright to be on the stand again.
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Seawright said she saw contradicting testimony, several well-qualified people reviewed the contract and it wasn't changed in final version.
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Regarding Dr. Murray's contract "4.1 Perform the Services reasonably by Producer" Bina said it was an error and Producer should read Artist.
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"There was no need to," Seawright said, explaining the fact that Dr. Murray failed the credit history was sufficient to deny him employment
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Seawright said that once she checked Dr. Murray's credit check it made him ineligible for employment, thus she didn't investigate further.
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Bina: Dr. Murray had a medical license, right?
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End: and they are even admitted if one party wishes to lead evidence to the contrary.
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Cont'd: Facts & materials admitted under judicial notice are accepted without being formally introduced by witness or other rule of evidence
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Cont'd: that it cannot reasonably be doubted. This is done upon the request of the party seeking to rely on the fact at issue.
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Cont'd: allows a fact to be introduced into evidence if the truth of that fact is so notorious or well known, or so authoritatively attested
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Here's the definition of judicial notice. Let us know if you think judge made mistake: Judicial notice is a rule in the law of evidence that
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Judge wants to make sure they get to the bottom of it, whether it is admissible or not, before instructing the jury one way or another.
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Judge: if it turns out judicial notice was improper but admissible in other ground, it may be difficult to explain to the jury.
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"You, improperly, took judicial notice over my objection and I'm requesting to admonish the jury now," Panish requested Judge Palazuelos.
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"I do not believe there's any error in showing this document to the jury," Bina said.
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Bina argued she thinks it's clearly admissible, doesn't think it's appropriate to instruct jury now.
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Panish said it's misleading, inappropriate, should not be presented to the jury and it's unduly prejudicial to the plaintiffs.
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Panish said the document is not a rule, regulation or policy and asked judge to admonish the jury to disregard it.
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Doc ends: information is essential to the particular job in question.
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Doc cont'd: because they tend to impact more adversely on minorities and females. Exceptions exist if the employer can show that such
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Doc cont'd: house, length of residence at an address, charge accounts, furniture ownership, or bank accounts generally should be avoided
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Doc cont'd: credit rating, including bankruptcy or garnishment, refusal or cancellation of bonding, car ownership, rental or ownership of a
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Pre-Employment Inquiries and Credit Rating or Economic Status:
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"It doesn't exactly say what you said," judge told Bina.
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Judge read the document and noted it says "generally should be avoided", and it doesn't says it is prohibited.
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"The court should not allow that, plaintiff has been prejudiced by the misconduct of defendants' counsel," Panish told the judge.
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Panish: That was complete error for it to be shown, it should be stricken and jury should be admonished. It was also judicial error as well
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Bina claimed the document, printed out of the website, is a policy and judge should be able to take judicial notice. She will look further.
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Judge Yvette Palazuelos: is this is a regulation, rule, statute I can take judicial notice?
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Judge offered to take judicial notice of the document, but Panish said judge couldn't legally do it.
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Jackson's atty Brian Panish argued vehemently that there was no foundation as to the date of the document and if it was in effect in 2009
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Bina showed an Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) policy on credit check, saying it is a discriminatory practice.
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Outside the presence of the jury, there was a heated discussion about a document AEG showed to the jury.
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A company can be accused of discrimination if the criteria involved in the hiring uses discriminatory practices, Seawright said.
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Bina gave hypotheticals to explain independent contractor.

Most common background checks are criminal and reference checks, Seawright said.
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Some jurors had their eyes closed at this point. It was very dry testimony, some audience members were sleeping.
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Seawright: It's important to be able to identify the best way to hire a worker, minimize the risk, determine if they are fit and competent
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The expert said there's no precise definition for independent contractor; there may be characteristics, but not a definition.
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The expert said this is the 1st case where a person's credit history is major issue. The other cases involved criminal history and behavior
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Seawright said she never ran her doctors' background. She has not worked with concert promoters or the music industry.
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Seawright said she has no idea if plaintiffs checked her background, but that she did not sign a release to check her credit.
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Bina asked if all the opinions Seawright offered are based on the assumption that AEG, not MJ, hired Dr. Murray. She said yes.

 

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Jacksons vs AEG - Day 42 - July 2 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 42 - July 2 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Use this thread to post any and all news stories from day 42 of Katherine Jackson vs. AEG trial.

Daily news threads are merged into the main News thread in the stickies

Please help the staff by posting all the news stories as well as tweets from media you see.

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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 55m
She’s having the attorneys craft a statement to read to the jury when they come in and HR expert Jean Seawright resumes testifying.
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Panish was also concerned because Palazuelos told the jury the guidance against employment-related credit checks was a law, which isn’t.
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Judge Yvette Palazuelos said questions about the document could be asked, but it wouldn’t be allowed into evidence.
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Plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish argued the document was a non-binding policy and shouldn’t be raised during trial.
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At this point, 45 minutes after the jury was told to report this morning, they still haven’t been brought into the courtroom.
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Testimony was delayed by a lengthy argument over an EEOC printout that was shown in court yesterday. (See my timeline from yesterday.)
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The Jackson vs AEG Live trial resumed this morning with arguments. Testimony hasn't started yet.
Katherine and Trent Jackson are here today

 

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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 3m
For healthcare professionals, the figure was 3%, according to figures read into the record by Stebbins Bina.
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For employees' with "safety sensitive" roles (which Seawright believes Conrad Murray qualified as), credit screens were done in 5% of cases.
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According to the 2010 survey, 30% of respondents did credit checks on employees in fiduciary duty roles.
Much less in other categories.
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Stebbins Bina walked Seawright through a survey of 158 HR professionals who answered questions about performing credit checks.
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Most of AEG defense attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina's questioning centered on doing credit checks on employees.
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Judge Palazuelos’ statement included language that she would instruct jurors’ on evidence once testimony concludes in the case.
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Before Seawright resumed testifying, the judge read a statement telling jury that the EEO document wasn’t a law.
(Details earlier in my TL)
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Testimony in the Jackson vs AEG Live case resumed at 11:07 a.m., more than an hour after jury was told to report.
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We're on the lunch break in Jackson vs. AEG Live. Cross-examination of HR expert Jean Seawright still ongoing and will continue after lunch.

 

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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 6m
I'm heading back into the courtroom. Will update once more at the end of the day.
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Seawright’s testimony should be done soon. The next witness, Dr. Sidney Schnoll, is in the hallway waiting for his turn.
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She said the experts aren’t supposed to say whether they believe Murray was hired or not _ that was for the jury to decide.
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She explained that one of her pretrial orders was that experts could assume Murray was either hired or not hired by AEG Live.
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At one point, Judge Palazuelos rubbed her hands over her face and stopped the proceedings. She turned and addressed the jury.
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Panish said he asked the question because Stebbins Bina asked a similar question on cross-examination.
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Panish then asked Seawright whether she believed AEG Live hired Murray, a question for the jury to decide.
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Seawright: “It was a red flag for me at the beginning of the process,” she said of Murray’s expected $150,000 a month salary.
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She said she knew he first asked for $5 million then dropped his rate down to $150,000 a month. She said that raised questions for her.
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Before the break, Panish asked Seawright whether she reviewed testimony in the case about Conrad Murray’s pay.
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She said the agencies view delinquent debts as one way people may compromise their ethical judgment.
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Seawright then said that many government agencies screen people’s credit because they see delinquent debts as a possible risk.
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Judge Palazuelos: “Why are we revisiting this.” Panish said he was trying to clarify issue for the jury, but judge sustained the objection.
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Panish asked a few questions before asking Seawright about the EEOC guidelines that have been argued over. AEG attorneys objected.
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Stebbins Bina wrapped up her questioning after about an hour, and plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish took over.
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One key factor in that was the fact Murray was working in Michael Jackson’s home, Seawright said.
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Seawright stuck to her testimony that Murray should have been considered in a high-risk positive and dealing with safety-sensitive matters
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Stebbins Bina also asked about reports Seawright prepared in other cases. There were objections, but some of the questions were allowed.
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AEG Live defense attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina focused on statistics from a survey of HR professionals.
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We’re on the afternoon break in Jackson vs. AEG Live trial. Cross examination of HR expert Jean Seawright concluded.

 

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Anthony McCartney ‏@mccartneyAP 23s
Not long after that, we broke for the day. I'l be back in court tomorrow in Jackson vs. AEG Live.
Reminder: no court on Thursday or Friday.
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“Her solution to her headaches was to eat 3 meals a day,” Schnoll said. “She needed no more narcotics after that.” (6 of 6)
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She didn’t believe him at first when he said she needed to eat lunch. He gave her some glucose tests, which bore out his theory. (5 of 6)
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The woman “always had her headaches at about 4 o’clock every day, except weekends,” Schnoll said. She wasn’t eating lunch at work. (4 of 6)
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The problem became apparent, Schnoll said, when he reviewed the woman’s pain diary. (3 of 6)
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He told the woman to keep a pain diary of her daily routines, when she got headaches and what she was doing. (2 of 6)
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Schnoll said he treated a woman who had severe headaches and kept asking her doctors for more and more pain medications. (1 of 6)
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Schnoll then related the need to evaluate a person's drug use to determine appropriate treatment.
He offered an anecdote of a patient.
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He said the primary factor in whether someone becomes a drug addict is usually genetics.
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Schnoll: "Addiction is a chronic disease that’s characterized by craving, compulsive use of a drug, continued use despite evidence of harm."
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(cont) ... withdrawal if they stopped taking it.
He said dependence is common and can happen under the care of a physician.
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The doctor explained the difference between addiction and dependence.
Being dependent on a drug meant someone would experience ... (cont)
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Schnoll said the Cubs' drug monitoring program he developed became a model of Major League Baseball at the time.
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He said he told the Cubs both items were inappropriate, and they agreed. He instituted a drug monitoring and testing program.
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The amphetamine pills were green, hence the players' nickname, Scholl said.
He also noted there was a beer tap in the clubhouse.
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Schnoll said on one of the counters in the Cubs' locker room was a bottle of amphetamines "which the players called greenies."
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Schnoll consulted for the Chicago Cubs starting in 1982. He recounted the first time he walked into the training room as immediately worried
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He's also provided medical care at concerts for acts such as the Rolling Stones and Fleetwood Mac. Apparently for concertgoers, not talent.
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Schnoll has consulted for the NFL Players Association, the Chicago Cubs and Bulls and written roughly 40 textbook chapters over his career.
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Schnoll doesn't do trial consulting. He said this is the first case in about 15 years that he's testified in.
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Schnoll has helped develop risk management programs for pharmaceutical companies. It's a way to understand problems of abuse of a drug.
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He's an addiction medicine and pain management specialist. Been practicing since the early 1970s, but has been consulting since 2001 or so.
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After Seawright finished testifying, Dr. Sidney Schnoll took the stand.
He testified about his experience, background today.
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AEG Live attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina then took over, and made the point that Seawright hadn't done any research into med, concert fields
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If they insisted, Seawright said she would have recommended a "comprehensive vetting process"
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Seawright responded that she absolutely wouldn't have recommended that AEG hire Murray because of "risks associated with the position."
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Panish asked whether if AEG Live was Seawright's client, would she have recommended hiring Conrad Murray.
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After the afternoon break, plaintiff's attorney Brian Panish asked HR expert Jean Seawright a few last questions.
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We're done for the day in Jackson vs AEG Live -- Dr. Schnoll returns to the stand tomorrow at 10 a.m. PDT.

 

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Judge then adjourned session until tomorrow. Jury ordered back at 10 am PT. Dr. Schnoll supposed to last all day, attorneys said.
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Usually doctor look at 0-10 pain scale, you then adjust the amount of the drug to give them what's enough to treat their pain.
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To determine if a patient is dependent or addicted, Dr. Schnoll said it is necessary to look at that person's behavior while using the drug.
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Dr. Schnoll said there's a difference between being addicted and dependent on drugs. Dependents look for drugs, addicts want to get high
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Dr. Schnoll: One person exhibits addicted behavior in relation to the drug, the other is seeking the drug to treat underlying condition
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Primary factor is usually genetics, Dr. Schnoll said about addicts.
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Dr. Schnoll: Addiction is a chronic disease that's characterized by craving, compulsive use of a drug, continued despite evidence of harm
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Koskoff: Can withdrawal from drugs sometimes be difficult, even for non-drug dependents?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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If the patient is properly prescribed and monitored, Dr. Schnoll said they can have normal life.
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Koskoff: Can people who are taking proper treatment become drug dependent?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll: When you take certain drugs and suddenly stop you go into withdrawal syndrome, which is usually the opposite effect of the drug
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Tolerance is when there's a need to take more of the drug for it to take effect, Dr. Schnoll explained.
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"You take it continuously and suddenly stop it, you go into withdrawal" Dr. Schnoll said. "If you continue to take it you develop tolerance"
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Dr. Schnoll: Drug dependence is the pharmacological affect of the drug.
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Dr. Schnoll reviewed medical records, depositions and transcripts in this case. He was also deposed.
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"Addiction Medicine is the study of the problems of addiction," Dr. Schnoll said. "It is a very broad area."
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Dr. Schnoll resides in Connecticut, born in New Jersey. He graduated in medical school on 1967. He described his extensive background.
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Seawright was excused.

Plaintiffs call next witness, Dr. Sidney Schnoll. Michael Koskoff, attorney for Jackson's, doing direct examination.
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Seawright said AEG did not do any check on Dr Murray.

Panish: In your opinion, AEG acted inappropriately for not doing that?
Seawright: Yes
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Panish asked if Seawright would recommend background check for a high-risk, safety-sensitive job?
Seawright: I do
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"Financial distress can impact their ability to make ethical decision, that's the reason that EEOC does it," Seawright said.
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Panish: Was EEOC checking credit of people?
Seawright: My understanding they were
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Bina in re-cross asked if Seawright was aware legislators expressed concern in 09 of unduly use of credit checks. She said she was not aware
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"If they insisted, I would've recommended a comprehensive vetting process, with credit and background check," Seawright said.
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Seawright: I would've said absolutely no, because of the risks associated with the position and the potential for conflict of interest
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Panish asked if AEG Live were Seawright's client in 2009 and said they wanted to hire Dr. Murray what she would've said.
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Seawright said that Dr. Murray asking for $5 million initially raised questions in her mind why he would be requesting that much.
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Judge: That's because it is your duty, iyour responsibility to say whether Dr Murray was hired. It's not up to the experts to determine that
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"I believe AEG Live hired Dr. Murray," Seawright said. Defendant's attorney objected to the response and judge sustained it.
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Seawright responded she would not rely on that survey to determine the necessity of credit checks in the healthcare field.
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Panish asked if Seawright could rely in a survey conducted with small percentage of businesses to determine if credit check should be done.
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"I've never heard that at all in all the documents I read," Seawright responded.
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Panish asked if Seawright saw anywhere in this case AEG saying they didn't conduct credit check on Murray because it could be discrimination
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"The debt is not an issue at all, it's the delinquent debt they are concerned about," Seawright said.
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Multiple branches of our government do credit checks on employees to make sure they are not at risk for unethical decisions, Seawright said.
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Seawright: They check the credit because they are very concerned that financial stress can compromise people's ethical judgment and behavior
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Panish asked Seawright what her understanding is why employers check credit of potential employees.
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Panish asked in re-direct about EEOC policy again. He said Bina brought it up improperly in front of the jury. Judge sustained objection.
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"It was called final," Seawright said about Dr. Murray's agreement.
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*Fully insured - Seawright said yes
*Indemnification Provision- Seawright said yes
*Obligation laid out in the contract - Seawright said yes
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AEG's practice for Independent Contractors:
*Known to the artist - Seawright said yes
*Required licenses or permits - Seawright said yes
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Seawright and Bina went through the check list for independent contractors hired by AEG.
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Bina: Do you see anything in the policy for hiring Independent contractors that AEG didn't follow with Dr. Murray?
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Seawright said it protects the company, it protects AEG.
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Bina argued that if the company is taking responsibility for Dr. Murray's conduct, with indemnification, it offers protection.
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"Indemnification provision in a contract is not checking out a worker," Seawright testified.
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Bina: Would the company be exposing itself to risk if you do background check?
Seawright: Not necessarily
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Employers have the right to conduct background check, Seawright said. But she noted their practices cannot be discriminatory.
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The expert said she read about Gongaware's knowledge of MJ's drug use in his deposition and Dr. Finkelstein also mentioned it.
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Seawright said the risk was elevated since Paul Gongaware was aware of MJ's past use of drugs and alcohol during tours.
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She explained Dr. Murray would be working at MJ's home, in and around his family, with access to confidential information.
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Seawright considered Dr. Murray's position to be high-risk and safety-sensitive.
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"For every job, you have to evaluate all of the risks associated with it," Seawright said. There are risks in every employment.
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"When hiring someone, we have to look at the potential harm to him/herself, to others, to customers," Seawright explained.
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Katherine Jackson also present in court for afternoon's session.

Bina inquired Seawright about expert opinions she issued in other cases.
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Bina inquired Seawright extensively about several surveys that she relied upon while writing opinions in other cases.
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Seawright: The label doesn't make a difference
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Bina: Is it ever appropriate to have some policies for employees and others for independent contractors?
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Bina asked if it's ever appropriate to have different processes for different positions. Seawright said it depends on different risk factors
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Seawright: I can't give an answer without evaluating the circumstances
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Bina: Lets say MJ had engaged Dr. Murray for 3 years and was going to continue. At that point, would MJ have to do background check?
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If time has passed since you last hired someone, Seawright said you need to go back and check again, it's a rehiring; whole new period.
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Seawright said you might have some historical knowledge of how the person performed but need to see if there were problems.
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Bina: If a contractor had been with hundreds of tours would that person have to be background checked?
Seawright: It depends on the position
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Bina: Does that fact that MJ had a long term relationship with Dr. Murray weigh in your analysis at all?
Seawright: No, there's no bearing
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Seawright explained his responsibility was Mr. Jackson's health during the tour.
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Dr. Murray wasn't being placed in charge of AEG business, Bina argued, saying he was in charge of the artist.
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Bina asked why background checks are necessary. Seawright said it was because you are putting customers at risk.
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Seawright said that, based on Dr. Murray's credit history, he was 180 days behind in his mortgage.
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Seawright explained she examined his financial history only, and once he failed that she didn't see need to go any further.
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Bina asked if Seawright knows Dr. Murray's history of treating patients, and he had no record of harming patients.
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Bina: Are there studies that show relationship between debt and malpractice?
Seawright: Not that I am aware of
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Bina: Are there studies that show relationship between debt and manslaughter?
Seawright: Not that I am aware of
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Seawright explained that Title 7 says that an employer cannot discriminate.
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Bina asked if Seawright was familiar with that EEOC guideline. She said yes, it provides guidance.
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Judge said the document had not been admitted into evidence. Jurors nodded, indicating they understood the explanation.
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Judge told jurors that yesterday there were references made to an EEOC document. It was not a regulation, but rather a guide.
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Seawright took the witness stand at 11:04 am PT, jury seated immediately after that.
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Judge told the attorneys to put their heads together and she will read an explanation to the jury.
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Panish: Trell never mentioned an EEOC concern. This is not a law or regulation. The document wasn’t raised in deposition with Seawright.
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Bina said she plans to say credit checks are controversial, must be job related. Companies might use care in using credit checks.
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"You yourself were misled, your honor, over my objections," Panish said.
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Panish raised his voice, said AEG never claimed this (credit check may be discrimination,) it has never been raised before.
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Bina said it was DMV photos that were assessed in that case, not EEOC policy that failed in that case.
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It is a guideline that has been revoked in a court case, Panish told the judge.
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Panish said EEOC guidelines are not controlling law. "This is not a law. If the court is confused, the jury is going to be confused."
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Panish: She says “it is a law," it is an official policy. It is not an official policy. It is a guideline at the most.
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Panish: They don’t consider credit checks to be a prohibited practice at all. This is a lawyer making misleading statements, hearsay.
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Outside presence of the jury, attys/judge discussed the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) document shown to jurors yesterday.
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HR consultant Jean Seawright resumed testimony. Katherine Jackson is present in court wearing long white jacket with green oval spots on it.

 

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Re: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 42 - July 2 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Michael Jackson wrongful death trial: Attorneys debate race, EEOC
Tuesday, July 02, 2013

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LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- In the Michael Jackson negligence lawsuit, an issue of race entered the courtroom and sent off fireworks between the attorneys on Tuesday.

It happened as Jean Seawright, a human resources expert, testified in support of Katherine Jackson's claim against concert promoter AEG Live.

Seawright stated that if AEG hired Jacksons's doctor, Conrad Murray, AEG should have conducted a credit check on him. The defense challenged her. Attorney Jessica Stebbins Bina asked whether a credit check might violate federal law.

She cited a statement from the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, or EEOC, that says inquiries about an applicant's credit rating, charge accounts or bank accounts generally should be avoided because they tend to impact more adversely on minorities and females. A debate erupted.

Outside the presence of the jury, attorney Brian Panish for the plaintiffs, said, "She said it is law. This was not a law. The jury is going to be confused."

At least nine jurors are women or members of a minority group.

Another Jackson attorney chimed in, saying, "It is a sensitive point given that many members of the jury are of a protected class."

The judge responded, telling jurors that the EEOC statement was a guideline, not a law or policy.

The plaintiffs allege that Murray, hired for Jackson's tour, needed money so badly he agreed to Jackson's request for propofol, a substance that caused Jackson's death.

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The defense presented a survey conducted by human resources managers that showed 40 percent of the organizations polled did not conduct credit checks.

The plaintiffs fired back: Did Seawright view any evidence that AEG avoided checking Murray's credit history because it might be discriminatory?

Seawright's answer: No.

On Wednesday, an addiction specialist takes the stand.

 

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Addiction Expert Takes The Stand In Michael Jackson Wrongful Death Trial
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LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — A new witness took the stand Tuesday in the Michael Jackson wrongful death trial.

Drug addiction specialist Dr. Sidney Schnoll told the jury many times an addiction can be cured if a doctor gets to the root of the problem.

Dr. Schnoll is an expert witness for the plaintiffs.

According to the Jackson family attorney, he will testify that instead of finding out what was wrong with Michael Jackson in the weeks and days leading up to his death, the singer’s doctor, Conrad Murray, instead kept him over-medicated, ultimately giving him an overdose of the powerful anesthetic that killed him.

Michael Jackson’s mother, Katherine Jackson, is suing concert giant AEG Live for negligence. The matriarch claims executives hired, retained or supervised Murray while the singer was preparing for his This Is It comeback tour.


The firm insists Murray was hired only at Jackson’s request.

A human resources expert for the prosecution also finished her testimony Tuesday.

Jean Seawright told jurors AEG “did indeed fail to follow adequate hiring processes” when dealing with Murray.

She testified had officials at the firm done a credit check on the physician, executives would have seen he was deeply in debt and might have been motivated by his $150,000-a-month salary and not his patient’s well-being.

Attorneys for AEG produced guidelines from the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) that said financial background checks on potential employees can be discriminatory and to use caution before doing them.

Murray is currently serving a four-year sentence for involuntary manslaughter at an L.A. County jail following his conviction in Jackson’s 2009 death.

 

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Dileo’s widow, daughter held in contempt as lawyers fight over manager’s laptop, phone
July 4, 2013
By DEANNE JOHNSON - Staff Writer (djohnson@mojonews.com) , Morning Journal News
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LISBON - Two Wellsville area women - the widow and daughter of one of the late pop star Michael Jackson's managers - found themselves in Columbiana County Common Pleas Court Wednesday morning facing contempt of court allegations.

According to court documents, Linda Dileo, the widow of Frank Dileo, and their daughter, Belinda Dileo, have been requested by subpoena to turn over the laptop computer and cell phone of Frank Dileo, who died in August 2011. However, they have both failed to do so, prompting the contempt motions.

The electronic devices are being requested by Jackson's mother, Katherine Jackson, and the children of Michael Jackson, who are currently involved in a civil trial in Los Angeles about Jackson's death. In that suit, Jackson's family members are claiming the wrongful death of the music star while he was preparing for the "This is it Tour." The lawsuit has been filed against AEG Live LLC and others involved in Jackson's career near the time of his death.

The Jackson family involved in the lawsuit reportedly is hoping to find emails or documents related to the health of Michael Jackson between Jan. 1, 2009 and June 25, 2009 - the date of Jackson's death.

Local attorney David Tobin was requested to take a deposition from Linda Dileo on behalf of a request from the California Superior Court in February. A motion was filed in March on behalf of Linda Dileo to quash the subpoena, which was followed by a motion to compel her to give the deposition. Finally, on May 28, the deposition was taken.

According to court documents, Linda Dileo testified the laptop being sought by the subpoena was given by her daughter to a friend. She agreed to attempt to locate the computer in the next seven to 14 days and hand over the cell phone immediately. However, neither has been turned over.

Additionally, Belinda Dileo reportedly failed to answer in her deposition any questions regarding whom she had given the laptop computer. William Bloss, an attorney for Koskoff, Koskoff and Bieder of Bridgeport, Conn., representing the Jacksons, said he would be willing to not learn the name of the person who has been holding onto the laptop provided when they receive the computer it has not been tampered with.

A computer expert, David Wilkeson of Tech Advisor LLC of Canfield, has been hired by the Jackson contingent to review the laptop and possibly the cell phone should they be provided. He testified on Wednesday how he would make a mirror image of the contents of the laptop without jeopardizing the data.

Wilkeson, who agreed to sign a confidentiality agreement, said he would be able to create read-only files from the contents of the laptop and search them for keywords or names. Wilkeson said he has a background in doing similar work for local police in cases involving white collar fraud and child pornography.

Bloss pointed out the Jackson family has concerns about items on the laptop not being disclosed because it should be privileged information.

Attorney Chris Amato, recently asked by the Dileos to represent them in court, said the family also has concerns about the contents of the computer and cell phone, noting these are personal items of a deceased family member. Frank Dileo reportedly was using these items when helping Jackson prepare for the upcoming tour, which never occurred due to his death.

Amato questioned about the chances of the computer's contents being destroyed, erased or revealed.

"They don't have any safeguards," Amato said.

Wilkeson said the only chance of a problem is if the computer would fail electronically while he was pulling the copies of the contents from it.

Amato also said the women have told him the cell phone was given to attorney Carolyn Dorazio of Wexford, Pa., who at one point served as the attorney for Belinda Dileo.

Tobin said obtaining the laptop and cell phone has been "like pulling teeth, as the court can see from what has taken place." He further requested Linda and Belinda Dileo be found in contempt of court and if they failed to produce the items by Friday, they should be incarcerated until they produced them.

Bloss added time is growing short. After the hearing, Bloss said the civil lawsuit in Los Angeles started about two months ago and testimony on behalf of Katherine Jackson and the children is expected to continue for another week or two. Then the testimony on the side of AEG and the other defendants is expected to take at least six weeks.

Judge Scott Washam agreed to find both Dileo women in contempt, despite an objection by Amato that Linda Dileo had offered and done everything in her power to produce the laptop but it is not in her possession. Washam gave the Dileos until Monday to produce the two items so their attorney can get them to Wilkeson. Doing so would purge them from the contempt.

Another hearing was set for Wednesday, July 10 to ensure the order to produce the items is followed.

AEG Live Entertainment LLC also had an attorney in the courtroom, Richard Buckner, who only spoke up once when he believed a comment made by Tobin about an email may have accused his law firm, O'Melveny and Myers LLP of Los Angeles, of "game playing."

According to court documents, O'Melveny and Myers represented the Dileos in earlier court proceedings.

- See more at: http://www.morningjournalnews.com/p...top--phone.html?nav=5006#sthash.4gyZ3ARk.dpuf

 

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Title: Jacksons vs AEG - Day 43 - July 3 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

Jacksons vs AEG - Day 43 - July 3 2013 - News Only (no discussion)

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That concluded Day 43 of testimony, Week 10. We hope to see you all back on Monday. Happy 4th of July everybody!
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Panish told the judge he's now estimating to finish his case in chief another week or so after the July 8th week, his last estimate.
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Jury ordered to return on Monday at 10 am PT. Plaintiffs will play Dr Finkelstein's deposition. Kenny Ortega set to testify in the afternoon
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Koskoff: And Dr. Murray gave it to him?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes

Dr. Schnoll was then excused and session adjourned. No court tomorrow or Friday.
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Koskoff noted that MJ replied it would be safe if done under the supervision of a doctor.
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Dr. Schnoll said Lee responded that MJ was taking chances.
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Cahan in re-cross: What did nurse Cherilyn Lee said to MJ when he was looking for a doctor to give him Propofol?
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Koskoff asked in re-direct if Propofol was given for the drug or underlying condition. Dr. Schnoll said MJ asked Propofol to help him sleep.
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"They were not symptoms of Demerol withdrawal, but probably of Propofol," Dr. Schnoll testified about MJ's symptoms in June 2009.
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Dr. Schnoll said he looked at the totality of the picture, like a puzzle, trying to put everything together to understand what was going on.
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Dr. Schnoll said he saw a concern one time of MJ going to Santa Ynez Cottage Hospital for excessive use of Demerol.
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Cahan asked if Dr. Schnoll reviewed testimony that MJ had boxes of Propofol at Neverland and asked a doctor to inject him. He said yes.
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Cahan asked about MJ's family failed interventions. He said he doesn't know if they were appropriately done; practice not used as much.
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Dr. Schnoll: MJ could've been off the drugs or taking the drugs in appropriate dosages if properly treated
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Dr. Schnoll said he didn't have 100% success rate in his practice and that no one does.
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"That's why your job is to motivate them and help them see the problems with the dependency," Dr. Schnoll responded.
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Cahan asked about patients who think they have their addiction under control and don't want to quit the drug.
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He doesn't think the symptoms MJ was having on June 19, 2009 were related to Demerol withdrawal.
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Dr. Schnoll: It was very hard for me to say he was dependent that time.
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"It didn't coincide with when I expected that withdrawal to occur," Dr. Schnoll said about MJ.
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"Was he really dependent?" Dr. Schnoll asked himself. He said the appearance of withdrawal from Demerol usually shows within 24-36 hours.
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Dr. Schnoll said he asked for a chart to be made to be able to see how much Demerol MJ was getting and how frequent.
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The expert said that if the withdrawal symptoms were present, someone might have asked why MJ had the flu.
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Dr. Schnoll said he would probably give her initial dose of 50 mg.
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Cahan asked what would happen if doctor gave her 375 mg of Demerol. "For you? You'd probably sleep for a while, about several hours" he said
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In April 2009, MJ received 375 mg of Demerol, the highest amount given by Dr. Klein.
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Dr. Schnoll said he doesn't think MJ was dependent on Demerol in January of 2009.
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Dr. Schnoll said he could not opine whether the treatment after the burn on MJ's scalp was appropriate.
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He's also not absolutely sure, but says MJ was probably dependent on Demerol in 1993.
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He said he continued to investigate the case, looked at more records, and is now uncertain.
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However, Dr. Schnoll says today he's not sure MJ was dependent on Demerol in 2009.
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Cahan asked if Dr. Schnoll testified in his deposition that MJ was dependent on Demerol? He answered yes, the time around the Dangerous tour
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Cahan: Is it legal to write prescription to someone under another name?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes, it's illegal
C: Have you ever done it?
Dr: No
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Dr. Schnoll said you try to look at the whole picture of what was going on and not look at the possibilities, but probablilities.
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Dr. Schnoll: I don't like to work under possibilities, since everything under the sun is possible. I like working with probablilities
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Cahan: Could MJ have opiates in pill forms in 2009 from doctors while having Demerol injections from Dr. Klein?
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Cahan: Did Dr. Klein write prescriptions to Mr. Jackson under other names?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Cahan: Are you aware of Dr. Klein being investigated...

Panish stopped and objected as improper. He asked for a sidebar.
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Cahan asked if MJ was seeing other doctors at the same time he saw Dr. Murray, like Dr. Klein. Dr. Schnoll said yes.
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Cahan resumed questioning Dr. Schnoll. Katherine left for the day.
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Instruction cont'd: she believed they, AEG, hired Dr Murray. That violated a court order, the statement is stricken, shouldn't be considered
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Jurors brought in at 3:27 pm PT. Judge read them the following instruction: Yesterday, plaintiiff's expert Jean Seawright said
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Judge admonished Panish to tell all experts to abide by her motions in limine.
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Judge: I don't know why you are pointing your fingers that way, Mr. Panish (to AEG's side). I really don't.
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Putnam said he agreed with the judge and agrees the instruction should be given as written.
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Panish: She said it, I wish she hadn't, I don't want a mistrial
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Judge: There are bright lines Mr. Panish and you don't even go near it because you may cross it accidentally
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Judge: I don't want a mistrial, it's a waste of resources

Panish: I don't want a mistrial either
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Judge: Every expert is only to make assumptions about hiring. I specifically did that (ruling) for a reason. Advise them about my order!
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Judge: I don't want this kind of problem that can lead to mistrial. I'm asking you to speak with all your experts
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An upset judge said:
This is my concern, we are 9 weeks in this trial and it's getting into mistrial territory. I don't want to go there!
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Judge: there's a ruling prohibiting any testimony, by any expert, on the issue!
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Panish: I know you're upset, I can tell that
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Panish: I told her not to do it
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Judge: This is your crucial, central issue in the case Mr. Panish. I'm surprised you had no discussion with her about it
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Judge said that violated the motion in limine regarding this issue. Experts are NOT to give their opinion on whether AEG hired Dr. Murray.
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Outside the presence of the jury, judge discussed with the attorneys about Jean Seawright's testifying yesterday that AEG hired Dr. Murray.
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Dr. Schnoll said some of the patients might have been addicted to Propofol, but others were just abusing it.
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Dr. Schnoll said he has treated tens of thousands of patients and only 5-6 were addicted to Propofol. These people were in the medical field
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The doctor agreed that some lay people could identify the symptoms as flu.
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Dr. Schnoll said most doctors would be able to put all the symptoms together and conclude it is opioid withdrawal.
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Some of opioids withdrawal include chills, running nose, tearing of the eyes, dilated pupil, goose bumps.
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The expert said people would recognize there was something wrong with MJ, but may not be able to recognize it as withdrawal from opioids.
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Dr. Schnoll said people get confused as to whether the patient is addicted or dependent of drugs.
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Cahan: There has got to be some amount of trust between doctor and patient?
Dr. Schnoll: Right
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Dr. Schnoll: Well, of they came to me to treat addiction, they usually would come because they wanted to treat their addiction
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Cahan: Did some patients did not want to get treatment?
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Cahan: When you are evaluating a patient you rely on the patient being honest with you, correct?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll did not offer opinion whether the amount or type of drug MJ was taking for cosmetic and dental work was appropriate.
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"There was no evidence of addiction at that time," Dr. Schnoll said about MJ in 2009.
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Dr. Schnoll said he last prescribed Demerol in the late 1970s. He stopped treating patients in 2001.
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Dr. Schnoll: Probably not at all at this point, pain specialist would not keep Demerol handy
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Dr. Schnoll said use of Demerol for pain went into question in the '90s.

Cahan: How common is for pain specialists to have Demerol handy?
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Dr Schnoll said Demerol is not commonly used anymore because it has other effects than just opioids, considered a dirty drug the doctor said
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Dr. Schnoll responded he didn't know, since he doesn't do these procedures.
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Cahan asked if it's common practice to use Demerol for Botox injections and facial fillers treatment.
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Just the fact that Dr. Klein injected MJ with Demerol doesn't raise concern of a relapse of Demerol dependency, Dr. Schnoll.
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Dr. Schnoll: If they have a severe pain problem that can only be treated by opioids, it is appropriate to give it.
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A professional doctor knows the difference between addiction and pseudoaddiction.

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Pseudoaddiction is when a patient is undertreated for pain, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll said doctor shopping is going from doctor to doctor to receive medication.
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There were weeks he put in 7-8 hours, some didn't do anything. He said it would be hard to estimate, spoke with plaintiff atty 10-15 times
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Dr. Schnoll said he has no idea how many hours he has worked in this case. He was retained back in January.
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Cahan said Pinney Associates is charging $790/hour for Dr. Schnoll's time.
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Dr. Schnoll works for Pinney Associates, he's a salaried employee and receives bonus at the end of the year, should there be one.
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Cahan: You were never hired as a doctor to accompany a band on tour?
Dr. Schnoll: That's correct
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"I knew most of them and I knew them well," Dr. Schnoll said.
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Cahan asked if Dr Schnoll brought medical students to help him out. He said yes. She asked if he did background or credit checks on them
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Dr. Schnoll said he acted ethically at that job. He worked at rock concerts in the '70s.
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Cahan: Did you think that created a conflict of interest?
Dr. Schnoll: As long as I acted ethically, I did not
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Dr. Schnoll said his primary duty was to treat concert goers. He was paid by the promoters.
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Dr. Schnoll said at times he was asked to treat performers, was hired to provide medical treatment at the facility to fans or artists.
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I know some people who worked at concerts, Dr. Schnoll said. He has been one.
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Cahan: Do you think it's ethical for doctors to go on tour?
Dr. Schnoll: It depends on what they do when they go on tour with them
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Dr. Schnoll created the term "Rock Doc", referring to doctors who work on rock n roll concerts.
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Koskoff finished direct examination. AEG attorney Kathryn Cahan did cross examination of Dr. Schnoll.
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Dr. Schnoll said he's reading Richards' book, but hasn't finished yet. Defendant's objected to the doctor talking about it based on hearsay.
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Keith Richards and The Rolling Stones have been performing for 50 years. Richards writes in his autobiography about his drug addiction.
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If MJ got proper treatment, he would have like normal life expectancy, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Drug addicts can die early due to overdose; infections are very common, like HIV, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll: If appropriately treated, it would have no affect
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Koskoff: Assuming he was not addicted, but had periods of drug dependency, would that have an impact on his life expectancy?
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Dr. Schnoll agreed MJ had the means to get proper drug dependency treatment.
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Koskoff: Based on Mr. Jackson's family, do you know if any members of his family were addicted?
Dr. Schnoll: I have no indication of that
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Dr. Schnoll: Some of the best outcomes in treatment are with people who have a lot to lose if they continue their addiction.
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"The autopsy said he was in really, very good condition," Dr. Schnoll told the jury about MJ.
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Having a supportive family and environment is critical in overcoming addiction, Dr. Schnoll explained.
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Dr. Schnoll: He could've been treated, he could've been treated if he had the proper people
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Koskoff: Let's assume MJ really was addicted to Demerol in 2009, do you have an opinion as to his prognosis for successful treatment?
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Koskoff: Assuming MJ was dependent, do you think proper treatment would be able to eliminate his dependency?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll said if MJ were treated appropriately for pain and sleeping problems, it would not have an effect in shortening his life.
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Dr. Schnoll: Should MJ have someone knowledgeable for treatment of pain, he could've been treated appropriately
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Dr. Schnoll testified MJ had two major problems: pain and insomnia.
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"He would've been able to continue to perform if he was appropriately treated for the underlying medical conditions," Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll: If his underlying medical condition, pain, insomnia, had been appropriately treated, he may have been able to get off the drugs
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Koskoff asked if MJ were under the care of a competent doctor, would he have been able to get off the drugs, Demerol and benzodiazepines.
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"They pass catheters and look at hearts, which is totally unrelated to pain," Dr. Schnoll said about cardiologists.
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Dr. Schnoll: Dr. Murray was an interventionist cardiologist and that is a highly specialized field. He had no background in treating pain.
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Koskoff: Assuming AEG hired Dr. Murray, was he fit and competent to treat Michael's sleep problems?
Dr. Schnoll: No, he was not
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Koskoff: Assuming AEG hired Dr. Murray, was he fit and competent to treat Michael's pain problems?
Dr. Schnoll: No, he was not
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Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's sleep problems?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent
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Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's drug dependency issues?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent
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Koskoff: Was Dr. Murray competent to handle MJ's pain?
Dr. Schnoll: He was not competent
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The hospital computer overloaded with people trying to get information on what happened with Sinatra, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll said once Frank Sinatra went to the hospital he worked after collapsing on the stage.
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Sometimes prescription is given under other people's names, Dr. Schnoll said, since celebrities often don't want people prying their records
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"If you are dependent, you could have some insomnia if you go off of it," Dr. Schnoll testified.
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Koskoff: What does Demerol do to sleep?
Dr. Schnoll: When you are taking it, it could make you sleepy
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He also said this drug would not have had effect on MJ on June 25.
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Dr. School said there was no trace of the drug in MJ's body at the time of his death.
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The very last Demerol injection MJ received from Dr. Klein was on June 22, 100 mg dose, according to the records, Dr. Schnoll testified.
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Koskoff: Is there a record MJ was getting Demerol from any other doctor?
Dr. Schnoll: No
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Dose went up in January 2009. Dr Schnoll said if a person was previously dependent on Demerol, stops and then resumes, tolerance is built up
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Dr. Schnoll talked about Dr. Klein giving MJ 100mg doses of Demerol in 2008. He said from mid-year to December it was the same amount.
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Dr. Schnoll said Propofol is not appropriate to treat insomnia, even if MJ suggested it.
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Koskoff asked if there was any evidence MJ was addicted or dependent of Propofol up until Dr. Murray. Dr. Schnoll said no.
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Dr. Murray used Propofol for sleep, which Dr. Schnoll said was inappropriate. "Plus, he was not an anesthetic or an anesthesiologist."
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The drug was used for dental procedures and cosmetic treatment, Dr. Schnoll said, adding it was appropriate for that.
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Between 1994 and 1996, Dr. Schnoll saw no evidence of any use of Propofol by MJ under any circumstance.
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Koskoff: What kind of specialist was on that tour for Michael?
Dr. Schnoll: He was anesthesiologist
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Dr. Schnoll testified Debbie Rowe said yes, but she wasn't sure if it was Propofol or Fentanyl. He didn't think Rowe was a licensed nurse.
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Koskoff showed a timeline and asked if there was any record MJ received Propofol during the Dangerous tour in 1994.
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Propofol is the most popular anesthetic in the world, Dr. Schnoll said. Propofol is the generic term.
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Dr. Schnoll said after the Propofol infusion stops, the effect wears off quickly.
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"Typically, they steal it from operating room or critical care unit or inject it in a home, or a bathroom," Dr. Schnoll explained.
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Dr. Schnoll treated patients addicted to Propofol. They were health technicians and none had it administered by another person.
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Koskoff: Did he use it for sleep?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
K: Is that appropriate?
Dr: Yes
K: Did MJ have a sleep problem?
Dr: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll said MJ was prescribed Midazolam and Versed which is commonly for short term surgical procedures, dental procedures.
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Koskoff: Was there a time MJ did take benzodiazepines?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll: I don’t know if MJ was an addict. I haven’t seen the information that would allow me to make a diagnosis of addiction
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Koskoff: On Dangerous tour, was MJ getting opioid drugs according to Dr. Finkelstein?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Dr. Schnoll talked about the surgery MJ to repair damage to his scalp.
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The expert said he saw evidence MJ was afraid of needles; didn't take medications in excess of what was prescribed by doctors.
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Dr. Schnoll said he saw no evidence that MJ ever used recreational drug or self-injected in the absence of a doctor.
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Koskoff: Do you agree with that opinion?
Dr. Schnoll: No
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Koskoff asked if Dr. Schnoll read testimony from Dr. Earley saying MJ was a drug addict and that he was going to die early.
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Koskoff asked if that was consistent with a drug addict. Dr. Schnoll answered no.
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Koskoff said based on the medical records in the last 16 years of MJ’s life, he was Demerol free for 13 1/2 years.
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The patch was done for treatment of Demerol dependency in early 2000s. The drug would block the effect of the opioid, Dr. Schnoll said.
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Dr. Schnoll said he reviewed medical records that Dr. Farshian implanted a patch into MJ's abdomen.
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Koskoff: Was there a period of time when MJ used Demerol for scalp treatments?
Dr. Schnoll: Yes
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Koskoff: Any evidence from any witness that MJ used Demerol outside the medical setting?
Dr. Schnoll: No
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“Opioids are most popular because they work," Dr. Schnoll said. "Pain is the most common complaint that comes to a doctor's office.”
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Dr. Schnoll explained pain threshold is the level at which someone feels discomfort. They are quite variable, he said.
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Dr. Schnoll: The figures indicate 10 to 12% become addicted, the same percentage of people who become addicted to alcohol.
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Some patients become addicted, Dr. Schnoll said. But it's not s large percentage.
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Dr. Schnoll: if they're on long term opioid treatment, they'll become dependent. Opioids are the most commonly prescribed drugs in the US.
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Koskoff: If a person is being treated, as part of good medical practice, can someone become drug dependent?
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Dr. Schnoll said addiction can also be treated by competent and fit physicians.
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Koskoff: Any famous people who have been opioid dependent?
Dr. Schnoll: President John F. Kennedy (Judge asks why?) Back pain.
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If a person has underlying condition and take opioid they could function better, Dr Schnoll explained. There's no harm in doing it medically
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Koskoff: What if a person has chronic osteoarthritis?
Dr. Schnoll: May have remain on medication all his life
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Dr. Schnoll said the most important factor in determining if the person should go off the drug is to find out what the underlying problem is
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Methodone is an opioid drug used for pain and treatment of opioid addiction. Dr. Schnoll explained how the drug works.
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Koskoff asked if you take someone off Demorol suddenly what happens. Dr. Schnoll: “like falling off a cliff, you don’t want that to happen.”
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Katherine Jackson was present in court wearing a long periwinkle jacket and pearl earrings.
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Addiction specialist Dr. Sidney Schnoll resumed testimony. Jackson's attorney Michael Koskoff did direct examination.

 

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Schnoll spent about another hour on the witness stand, reiterating his point that there was no sign in records that Jackson was an addict.
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The judge said the jury should disregard her testimony about whether AEG Live hired Conrad Murray.
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The jury was brought in, and Palazuelos read an instruction stating that Seawright violated a court order.
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Palazuelos: “I don’t know why you’re pointing the finger that way.” She told Panish to make sure he warns his experts from now on.
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Panish also said that he was trying to counter questions from AEG’s attorneys that suggested Seawright didn’t have an opinion.
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Palazuelos: “This is my concern. Nine weeks into this trial and this is getting in a mistrial situation.” (We’re in 10th wk of testimony.)7
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Panish protested, saying “All I was trying to show was that she was trying to show was that she has an opinion.”
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The judge said the answer veered into mistrial territory, and that Panish should have warned Seawright to not state her opinion.
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Panish had asked whether Seawright she had an opinion on whether AEG Live hired Murray. He said today he thought it was a yes-no question.
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Seawright told the jury she thought AEG did hire Murray, based on a question from plaintiff’s attorney Brian Panish.
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The judge noted that expert witnesses had been instructed not to state opinions on whether AEG Live hired Conrad Murray.
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After the afternoon break, Judge Yvette Palazuelos returned to the testimony of HR expert Jean Seawright. She was upset about yesterday.
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The doctor said he probably hadn’t prescribed Demerol since the 1970s. (He hasn’t been practicing with patients for several years.)
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AEG defense attorney Kathryn Cahan also asked Schnoll about Demerol. He called it a “dirty opioid.”
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On cross-examination, she tried to make the point that it’s hard for a lay person to tell difference between addiction and dependency.
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Schnoll said even if Jackson were addicted to medications, with proper treatment he could have lived a long, healthy life.
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The doctor also addressed Demerol use, saying there was no sign Jackson received the drug between 2003 and 2008.
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Schnoll’s point about the documented use of propofol by Jackson was that it was in medical settings with proper supervision. Until C. Murray
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He said Rowe used two different names for medications she saw Jackson receive in 1993, so it wasn’t clear if propofol was used.
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Schnoll said it wasn’t clear if Jackson received propofol during the 1993 “Dangerous” tour because Debbie Rowe wasn’t clear.
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The records showed that Jackson received propofol for dental procedures dating back to 1997, Schnoll said.
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Schnoll reviewed medical records dating back until at least 1997. They included dental records, and files of Arnold Klein.
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Schnoll said based on his review of medical records, he saw no evidence that Jackson was addicted to prescription meds.
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I’ve been dealing with some tech issues and a time crunch today, so will address the main points of Schnoll’s testimony.
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As for today's proceedings, testimony of Dr. Sidney Schnoll concluded today.
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Finkelstein's deposition will take the morning session. Kenny Ortega is scheduled to be the Monday afternoon witness.
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We're done for the day in Jackson vs. AEG Live. Court resumes on Monday at 10 a.m.
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He's also started to discuss Michael Jackson's medical history. I may have more updates in a little while. Gotta review some notes.
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Schnoll is being questioned by plaintiff’s attorney Michael Koskoff. He started out discussing pain management drugs, addiction solutions.
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Dr. Sidney Schnoll, an addiction and pain management expert, remains on the stand.
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We’re on a break in Jackson vs AEG Live trial. Katherine and Trent Jackson are here today.

 

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Jackson trial breakthrough


Last Updated: 12:03 AM, July 8, 2013


Posted: 11:53 PM, July 7, 2013


<!-- STORY STARTS --><!-- context: top --><!-- pass -->The personal computer of Michael Jackson&#8217;s late manager, Frank DiLeo, will be handed over today by his daughter in the hope of finding a &#8220;smoking gun&#8221; about the star&#8217;s death, sources tell Page Six. Lawyers for Katherine Jackson and her three grandchildren hope the hard drive contains evidence that will prove that executives for concert company AEG Live were responsible for *****&#8217;s 2009 death by hiring Dr. Conrad Murray, who gave him a fatal dose of medication.

The Post&#8217;s Richard Johnson reports that Katherine&#8217;s lawyers subpoenaed the computer before the wrongful-death civil trial started in April, but were stymied until an Ohio judge found Frank&#8217;s daughter, Belinda DiLeo, in contempt of court last week and vowed to jail her if she didn&#8217;t produce the computer by today.


&#8220;First she said she didn&#8217;t have it, but then she miraculously found it, and she&#8217;s handing it in on Monday,&#8221; a source told The Post.

The cigar-smoking, bullet-headed DiLeo was so convincing as a gangster, Martin Scorsese cast the Pittsburgh native in &#8220;Goodfellas.&#8221; The jury is already familiar with him from testimony of Michael Jackson&#8217;s hair and makeup person, Karen Faye, who said she overheard DiLeo dealing with the artist&#8217;s severe weight loss by telling a handler, &#8220;Get him a bucket of chicken!&#8221;

AEG Live boss Randy Phillips testified that he and DiLeo were standing in the emergency room at Cedars-Sinai when they were told Jackson was dead. &#8220;Frank collapsed,&#8221; Phillips said. DiLeo died two years later, following heart surgery at the same hospital, but he didn&#8217;t take his secrets to the grave. DiLeo left a manuscript of the tell-all he was writing. &#8220;The truth has to be told,&#8221; he said at the time. &#8220;I&#8217;m going to set the record straight once and for all.&#8221; It is in the hands of Mark Lamica, who worked with DiLeo for nine years.

&#8220;Frank knew where all the bodies were buried,&#8221; said an insider. &#8220;If there are new e-mails on his computer, or a copy of his book, it could rip the trial wide open.&#8221;

But AEG lawyer Marvin Putnam told The Post, &#8220;Unfortunately, this is yet another attempt by plaintiffs to distract the press with a sideshow.&#8221;

Putnam said he and his clients &#8220;look forward to the production of Frank DiLeo&#8217;s computer. Mr. DiLeo&#8217;s documents will only confirm what the defendants have said all along &#8212; that the defendants were never aware that Dr. Conrad Murray was administering powerful anesthetics to Michael Jackson in Michael Jackson&#8217;s private bedroom at night behind locked doors.&#8221;


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