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We hope to see you tomorrow for what could be the last day of testimony in the case. Have a great evening everyone.
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- Closing plaintiff -- TUESDAY - Closing defendant -- WEDNESDAY - Rebuttal plaintiff -- THURSDAY
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PLAN AS OF NOW, ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE: - Witness done tomorrow morning, arguments and motions in the pm - Jury to be instructed on MONDAY
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Judge adjourned trial until 10:00 am PT tomorrow for jurors. Attorneys are ordered at 9:30 am PT. Dr. Metzger to resume testimony at 10 am.
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Dr. Metzger: I think he didn't want one medical group to know about another medical group so he could, more or less, do what he wanted.
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Dr. Metzger on depo: I think he didn't want to appear he was doctor shopping.
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Cahan played video deposition in the insurance company lawsuit where Dr. Metzger said MJ would segregate his doctors.
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Cahan: Do you think MJ wanted to keep information from one doctor to another so he could more or less do what he wanted? Dr. Metzger: No
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Dr. Metzger: I always asked him to go thru the hotel, because the hotel had responsibility to hire competent physician.
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"At times, I think he probably did keep things from me because he didn't want me to worry," Dr. Metzger testified.
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Dr. Metzger: Often I'd not hear about other physicians. I'd hear from security or the ladies if it was serious.
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Cahan: Did doctor shopping included Mr. Jackson segregating physicians?
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"He was uncomfortable and a little fearful of flying," Dr. Metzger explained.
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"Michael needed to be told what to do," Dr. Metzger said. The plan detailed what to do before flights and after performances.
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The doc talked about the plan he wrote to help MJ sleep. He said MJ gave permission for him to share plan w/ Rowe, Faye and security guards
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"He didn't need me and I didn't need to be there," he said. Dr. Metzger recalled treating MJ for mild dehydration while in Australia.
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Dr Metzger never rejoined the tour after he came back to LA. "My schedule and MJ particularly wanted me there for the wedding and Australia"
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Dr. Metzger said he travelled to Australia with Debbie Rowe, was there for about 2 weeks. This was HIStory tour.
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Judge admonished Cahan not to ask anything about it.
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Judge will read an instruction to the jury that Cahan's question was improper and they should disregard it or anything implied by it.
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"I honestly don't know what to do to fix it," Chang said. "I just want to throw myself on the floor and cry."
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Chang argued Cahan did it in bad faith. "The jury is left with the idea that he's a criminal, that he'd do anything for MJ," she said.
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Panish wants an admonition read and wants to be allowed to talk about the German doctors.
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Panish: She did it intentionally, was setting him up. It was a premeditated plan. It's not admissible, she severely prejudice this witness
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Cahan apologized saying she misunderstood the court order. She said she thought it had to do with other patients other than MJ and KJ.
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Bina argued the appropriate remedy should be to strike the question and bar the line of questioning.
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Bina: Dr. Metzger pled no contest to a misdemeanor for misconduct. There's a petition for suspension of Dr. Metzger's medical license.
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Outside jury's presence there was discussion about Cahan asking if Metzger was reprimanded 4 writing prescription under other people's name
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Cahan: Have you ever been reprimanded or disciplined for writing prescriptions on someone else's name? Chang asked for a sidebar.
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Cahan: Even though you knew it's illegal? Dr. Metzger: Yes C: Why? Dr. M: To protect their anonymity
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"I've done it on rare occasions, almost exclusively for MJ and Janet," Dr. Metzger said.
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Dr. Metzger admitted he used Karen Faye's name to prescribe medicine for MJ.
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"I don't remember ever writing a prescription for Michael about Demerol," Dr. Metzger explained.
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Dr. Metzger: I don't personally believe I prescribed MJ Demerol. It could've come from Dr. Klein if it was in the package.
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Cahan: Do you remember sending some Demerol?
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Cahan: Do you remember sending pain medication? Dr. Metzger: Yes, there was some form of pain medication
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Cahan: Was that in Aug 1993? Dr. Metzger: I don't recall.
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Dr. Metzger: At some juncture on that tour (Dangerous), I believe I arranged for Karen, Debbie or security team to bring some medicine to MJ
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Dr. Metzger said he believes he never gave MJ Demerol. "Absolutely not," he responded to the question.
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"He needed it, he didn't take it for joy," Dr. Metzger said.
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"He really didn't like taking medicine" Metzger said. "I think he needed medicine because he had low pain threshold when undergoing surgery"
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Dr. Metzger: MJ was the most social I was with my patients.
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Dr. Metzger: In my view, I always maintained proper boundaries. A lot of physicians would not socialize with patients.
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The doctor said he understands the Hippocratic Oath to have his patients first, do no harm.
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"I don't believe I ever crossed any ethical boundaries with Michael Jackson," Dr. Metzger said.
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"He was both," Dr. Metzger said about MJ being a friend and patient. "I always had his best interest at heart."
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He went to MJ's Century City house, saw MJ at Dr. Klein's house and office, saw him in NY, Australia, best man of his wedding to Ms. Rowe.
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The doctor said his relationship with Michael Jackson was the closest he has ever had with any patient. He went to Neverland 12-15 times.
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"My recollection I did not speak with any single member of the family about this lawsuit," Dr. Metzger testified.
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Cahan: Have you spoken with Jackson's family members about this lawsuit? Dr. Metzger: Basically no
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As to his attorney, Metzger said he knows there's an arrangement for payment by the plaintiffs and there's also an arrangement between the 2
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"There were no negotiations, I basically said this is my fee and they said ok," Dr. Metzger explained.
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Cahan asked the judge to order him to answer, which judge did. He said he charges approximately $1,000/hour.
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The doctor said he's spent about 6 hours of his time. Cahan asked how much he charges and he said he was not comfortable disclosing his rate
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Dr. Metzger: I believe it's reasonable for my time reviewing the records, giving deposition and testimony in this case.
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Dr. Metzger: I'll be sending a bill at the end of the trial.
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At that time, Rowe also said Eric George was a good attorney. Cahan asked if the doc is charging plaintiffs anything to be here today.
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The doctor said he reached out to Debbie Rowe after seeing in the media that she testified in this case. He wanted to give her some support.
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Cahan: Are plaintiffs' paying for your attorney in this case? Dr. Metzger: I believe so. C: How much does he charge? Dr. M: I don't know
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Cahan: Did plaintiffs' counsel help you find an attorney? Dr. Metzger: Yes
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Dr. Metzger said Chang told him she had an attorney to refer that she thought would suit his needs. She recommended Eric George.
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Dr. Metzger first spoke with plaintiffs' attorneys about testifying back in April or May. He has been subpoenaed.
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Doctor said he was out of town from middle of July until mid-Aug. Early July he advised plaintiffs' counsel about his absence.
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Dr. Metzger said he spoke w/ Chang on the phone about 2 weeks ago and in met her in person with his attorney 2-3 nights ago for an hour.
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"I viewed Michael as a very good friend of mine and I think it was vice-versa," Dr. Metzger testified.
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"I'm well acquainted with the immediate Jackson family and some other members," the doctor said.
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"Janet and Randy asked me to evaluate her health," Dr. Metzger said. "I've previously taken care of Janet many years ago."
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Dr. Metzger: I advised her to fly to Arizona for a concert. I do not know where she was in Arizona, I did not advise her to go to a spa.
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He gave Mrs. Jackson advice about traveling because of her health.
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Dr. Metzger met Katherine Jackson many years ago, he said. He provided some medical care to her last Summer.
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He said there were times the children went to his house for dinner, went to the movies.
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Dr. Metzger said he had a moderately close relationship with the children in comparison with his relationship to MJ.
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In depo Dr. Metzger's said: Q: And it seems like you also had a very close relationship with Michael's children, correct? A: Yes
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The doctor was very close to MJ and moderately close to the children.
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Dr. Metzger said he had, in bits and pieces, taken care of other Jackson's family members, including MJ's children.
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The doctor said he looked at some of MJ's medical records over the past several days. "I did not look at 26 years of medical records."
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"I told the truth to the best of my ability," Dr. Metzger said about his deposition and his trial testimony.
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Dr. Metzger said that at the time of his deposition, he received a great amount of the file back, but it was out of order and missing pages.
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There may be an insurance file and one major file, the doctor said. His counsel did not give his medical record prior to his deposition.
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Dr. Metzger: Some of my records were given to my attorney at the time, didn't keep medical records.
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Cahan inquired about the time of deposition whether Dr. Metzger had MJ's medical files.
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No further question. Kathryn Cahan, for AEG, doing cross examination.
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Chang: Do you recall having a conversation with Paul Gongaware about MJ's inability to sleep? Dr. Metzger: Yes, I do.
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Jurors entered the court at 2:41 pm. Dr. Allan Metzger resumed testimony. Deborah Chang continued the questions.
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Bina: We can never get back what Dr. Metzger's memory actually was. Judge: Ok, I'm ready to rule. I'm excluding it.
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Panish: Defense will argue MJ had long history of use of Propofol. The evidence here is that Propofol was used in connection with surgeries.
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"This is about refreshing his recollection with someone else's memory," Bina argued.
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Panish: What we did, show him the testimony, is appropriate. Non-retained experts can be refreshed.
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"There's no other way to fix this other than keep it out," Cahan urged the judge.
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Cahan said the 38 pages of Rowe's testimony detailed the set up the anesthesiologist in German, logistic, what drugs have been provided.
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Bina said Chang corrupted the witness by giving another witness' version of the events so he was able to taylor his answer according to hers
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Bina said she's asking for fair remedy here, which is keep this part out of Dr. Metzger's out.
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Bina: He already testified without the taint of someone else's testimony. Even if she acted in good faith, it irreparably tainted his memory
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Judge then precluded plaintiffs from asking anything related to the issue German doctors and Propofol used to sleep.
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Chang: I don't think it was intentional violation of court's order. I believe we acted in good faith Judge: The good faith exception, huh?
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Judge had ruled that non-retained expert witnesses should not be given copies of other witnesses' testimony.
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Chang gave 38 pages of Debbie Rowe's testimony to Dr. Metzger to read.
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Outside the presence of the jury, Deborah Chang argued she doesn't think it's appropriate for the court to sanction.
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Around 1:40 pm PT, jurors were escorted by sheriff's department. We're told they had security brief for sequestration during deliberation.
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Judge ordered jurors back at 1:30p PT to have a security meeting. Attorneys ordered back at 2:00p PT.
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Chang: Did he look like this? Dr. Metzger: Oh no, not at all C: Would you've been concerned? Dr. M: Oh yes, oh yes
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Chang showed Dr. Metzger the picture of MJ during fitting on June 19, 2009.
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Dr Metzger: One of the things he discuss was Diprivan. April 18, 2009 was the last time Dr. Metzger saw MJ alive.
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Dr. Metzger: Basically he said any IV treatment is potentially dangerous, that he didn't know anyone who would administer IV anesthesia.
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"I don't remember if I called back or just relay the message I couldn't help," the doctor said.
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"I needed advice getting him to sleep and I also asked about a doctor in London," Dr. Metzger explained.
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He spoke with the head of anesthesia at Cedars Sinai, since anesthesiologists have to manage pain and sleep.
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After leaving the house, Dr. Metzger said he called a few colleagues to see if there was any other medication or avenues to help MJ sleep.
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"I had a feeling that any IV given in a home is potentially precarious," Dr. Metzger explained.
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He was allowed upstairs at Carolwood, did not see any locked doors, medical equipment or oxygen tanks.
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The doctor said he had free access to the house and the children. "I was ecstatic to see the children," the doctor said.
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MJ indicated he could not sleep, the doc said. "This time he was in a totally different place," Dr. Metzger said.
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The doctor said the stress was related to "Can I do 50 shows?"
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Dr. Metzger said MJ was more stressed when he saw him in April 2009 than during the phone call in Feb. 2009.
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Chang: Did he ever seek painkillers to get high? Dr. Metzger: No, I don't believe this was in any way recreational
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Chang: At that time, did MJ ask you for any narcotic or prescription drugs? Dr. Metzger: No
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Dr. Metzger: I had one phone conversation in 2009 and I visited him in April 2009.
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When not under stress, the doctor said MJ could sleep on Tylenol PM, which generally worked.
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Chang: Did MJ ever ask you to find someone to infuse anesthesia in him? Dr. Metzger: No
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Chang: In the 26 years you worked w/ MJ did he ever ask you for Propofol before the HIStory tour? Metzger: Those words were never said by MJ
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"MJ was really tired and very frustrated, he felt he wasn't performing well," Dr. Metzger said about his sleepiness.
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"I wanted to be proactive and ready," the doctor said about HIStory tour. He testified he sent a copy of the plan to Gongaware, as producer
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Dangerous was cut short so MJ could enter rehab. Dr. Metzger said Dr. Forecast gave MJ too much Demerol.
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The doctor said he didn't think there was a plan for Dangerous tour. He didn't think a good job was done then.
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"I know that Michael can't sleep when he's creating, or after he was creating, he always wanted to make it better," Dr. Metzger recalled.
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The doctor wrote a letter detailing a plan to help MJ sleep. He said he sent a copy of it to the producer, MJ, Karen Faye, Debbie Rowe.
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Chang: As the HIStory tour doctor, were you concerned with MJ's sleeping disorder during the second leg of the tour? Dr. Metzger: Yes, I was
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In his deposition, Dr. Metzger said he didn't remember who Paul Gongaware was. He said he didn't have all his records with him.
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Dr. Metzger saw all the shows in Australia. He said MJ would lose 7-8 pounds after each performance.
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The doctor said he saw several MJ shows, but nothing like what he saw in Sydney, Australia. Chang played snippet of the show.
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"It was a beautiful, caring, solid relationship," Dr. Metzger explained.
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Dr. Metzger: I see he did a wise thing over the years of not exposing their faces, so they could go out and not be recognized.
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Dr. Metzger: The relationship was extremely loving, non fearful.
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The doctor said MJ always wanted to be a father. Chang: Did he enjoy being a father? Dr. Metzger: Very much so
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Dr. Metzger said he knew MJ was going to get married to Debbie Rowe during the HIStory tour. During the tour he found out Rowe was pregnant.
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Chang: Were would your allegiance fall, with the producer or patient? Dr. Metzger: Of course the patient, regardless if it was MJ or not
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He said he would've never signed a document that had that clause in it, it's a conflict of interest.
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"I've never seen a document like this," Dr. Metzger said.
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Chang showed Murray's contract to Metzger and asked if he was ever given a contract that says doctor could be terminated by the producer.
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"I never put in jeopardy his health for performance," he said.
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Dr. Metzger said he never had the issue where he had to put MJ in danger to continue the tour.
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In the tour, his main responsibility was with Michael Jackson. He said he was never approached by a promoter/producer with a contract.
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He said he would've charged his normal house call rate, if they needed him during the tour.
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Dr. Metzger: I basically asked for nothing (payment). I knew this would be an honor, would bill based on being needed.
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Chang showed letter from Metzger to insurance company that he'd be accompanying MJ, cast members and crew (180-190 people) in HIStory tour
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Metzger said MJ approached him to go on "HIStory" tour. He thought it would be fun, wanted doc to be best man on his wedding to Debbie Rowe
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"It's hard to see that," Dr. Metzger expressed after movies were played, somewhat emotional.
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Chang played clip of "Heal the World" film and "Earth Song." Dr. Metzger watched them with somber face, shook his head to the beat at times
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The doctor said MJ always had a message in his short film, that humans should be human beings to each other.
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Chang: Did he enjoy going out incognito? Dr. Metzger: Oh, he loved it!
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Dr. Metzger said he watched MJ's short video "Ghost." Chang showed photo of Dr. Metzger and Michael Jackson as the white mayor.
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Dr. Metzger: I don't know if he didn't follow my recommendations or it didn't work.
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Chang: Did you try to work w/ Forecast to resolve the issue? Dr. Metzger: I think we had 2-3 discussions on how to lower the dose of Demerol
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Sleep issues: That was the first time I was aware of the issue, didn't have problems in Bad tour, the doctor said.
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Dr. Metzger got a call during the tour. There were couple of issues related to dehydration and Dr. Forecast administering Demerol.
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Dangerous tour: Metzger: I was informed he'd (Forecast) be taking over the medical role, and I would not be needed because of the distance
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Dr. Metzger said he did several examinations of Michael for insurance prior to tours.
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Dr. Metzger said he would agree that MJ needed the majority of the surgeries he underwent, specially after the burn.
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Dr. Metzger: I wasn't concerned about anesthesia, I was always concerned about too many surgeries.
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"I did not ever ever see him intoxicated with too many pain medications," he said.
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Chang: Did you personally ever see MJ under the influence? Dr. Metzger: No. I saw him groggy but never drunk.
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He said he thinks it's because Rowe thought he could do something about it.
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On numerous occasions, Debbie Rowe would talk to Dr. Metzger when she thought other doctors were giving MJ too many painkillers.
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Dr. Metzger: I was in touch, not as spies, but wanted to have fingers on the pulse of what was going on with my buddy.
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Dr. Metzger: I worked with Karen Faye, Debbie Rowe, Grace Rwamba.
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Dr. Metzger: Absolutely not! I never gave him Demerol or any hard narcotics.
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Chang: Do you believe he was your friend so he could get prescription drugs from you?
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Chang: Was your belief he looked for doctors to get drugs? Dr. Metzger: No
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"He'd rely on others and had faith in the medical profession," Dr. Metzger said. "He often bounced things off me."
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"Michael was very private," Dr. Metzger opined. He said often he wanted to know about his medical care, but often didn't.
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Dr. Metzger said he was always involved in MJ's medical care because he wanted to make sure MJ was safe.
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Dr. Metzger: MJ had to shop around in the city for quality physicians for himself and his children.
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We hope to see you tomorrow for what could be the last day of testimony in the case. Have a great evening everyone.
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- Closing plaintiff -- TUESDAY - Closing defendant -- WEDNESDAY - Rebuttal plaintiff -- THURSDAY
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PLAN AS OF NOW, ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE: - Witness done tomorrow morning, arguments and motions in the pm - Jury to be instructed on MONDAY
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Judge adjourned trial until 10:00 am PT tomorrow for jurors. Attorneys are ordered at 9:30 am PT. Dr. Metzger to resume testimony at 10 am.
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Dr. Metzger: I think he didn't want one medical group to know about another medical group so he could, more or less, do what he wanted.
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Dr. Metzger on depo: I think he didn't want to appear he was doctor shopping.
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Cahan played video deposition in the insurance company lawsuit where Dr. Metzger said MJ would segregate his doctors.
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Cahan: Do you think MJ wanted to keep information from one doctor to another so he could more or less do what he wanted? Dr. Metzger: No
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Dr. Metzger: I always asked him to go thru the hotel, because the hotel had responsibility to hire competent physician.
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"At times, I think he probably did keep things from me because he didn't want me to worry," Dr. Metzger testified.
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Dr. Metzger: Often I'd not hear about other physicians. I'd hear from security or the ladies if it was serious.
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Cahan: Did doctor shopping included Mr. Jackson segregating physicians?
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"He was uncomfortable and a little fearful of flying," Dr. Metzger explained.
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"Michael needed to be told what to do," Dr. Metzger said. The plan detailed what to do before flights and after performances.
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The doc talked about the plan he wrote to help MJ sleep. He said MJ gave permission for him to share plan w/ Rowe, Faye and security guards
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"He didn't need me and I didn't need to be there," he said. Dr. Metzger recalled treating MJ for mild dehydration while in Australia.
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Dr Metzger never rejoined the tour after he came back to LA. "My schedule and MJ particularly wanted me there for the wedding and Australia"
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Dr. Metzger said he travelled to Australia with Debbie Rowe, was there for about 2 weeks. This was HIStory tour.
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Judge admonished Cahan not to ask anything about it.
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Judge will read an instruction to the jury that Cahan's question was improper and they should disregard it or anything implied by it.
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"I honestly don't know what to do to fix it," Chang said. "I just want to throw myself on the floor and cry."
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Chang argued Cahan did it in bad faith. "The jury is left with the idea that he's a criminal, that he'd do anything for MJ," she said.
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Panish wants an admonition read and wants to be allowed to talk about the German doctors.
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Panish: She did it intentionally, was setting him up. It was a premeditated plan. It's not admissible, she severely prejudice this witness
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Cahan apologized saying she misunderstood the court order. She said she thought it had to do with other patients other than MJ and KJ.
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Bina argued the appropriate remedy should be to strike the question and bar the line of questioning.
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Bina: Dr. Metzger pled no contest to a misdemeanor for misconduct. There's a petition for suspension of Dr. Metzger's medical license.
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Outside jury's presence there was discussion about Cahan asking if Metzger was reprimanded 4 writing prescription under other people's name
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Cahan: Have you ever been reprimanded or disciplined for writing prescriptions on someone else's name? Chang asked for a sidebar.
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Cahan: Even though you knew it's illegal? Dr. Metzger: Yes C: Why? Dr. M: To protect their anonymity
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"I've done it on rare occasions, almost exclusively for MJ and Janet," Dr. Metzger said.
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Dr. Metzger admitted he used Karen Faye's name to prescribe medicine for MJ.
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"I don't remember ever writing a prescription for Michael about Demerol," Dr. Metzger explained.
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Dr. Metzger: I don't personally believe I prescribed MJ Demerol. It could've come from Dr. Klein if it was in the package.
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Cahan: Do you remember sending some Demerol?
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Cahan: Do you remember sending pain medication? Dr. Metzger: Yes, there was some form of pain medication
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Cahan: Was that in Aug 1993? Dr. Metzger: I don't recall.
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Dr. Metzger: At some juncture on that tour (Dangerous), I believe I arranged for Karen, Debbie or security team to bring some medicine to MJ
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Dr. Metzger said he believes he never gave MJ Demerol. "Absolutely not," he responded to the question.
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"He needed it, he didn't take it for joy," Dr. Metzger said.
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"He really didn't like taking medicine" Metzger said. "I think he needed medicine because he had low pain threshold when undergoing surgery"
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Dr. Metzger: MJ was the most social I was with my patients.
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Dr. Metzger: In my view, I always maintained proper boundaries. A lot of physicians would not socialize with patients.
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The doctor said he understands the Hippocratic Oath to have his patients first, do no harm.
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"I don't believe I ever crossed any ethical boundaries with Michael Jackson," Dr. Metzger said.
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"He was both," Dr. Metzger said about MJ being a friend and patient. "I always had his best interest at heart."
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He went to MJ's Century City house, saw MJ at Dr. Klein's house and office, saw him in NY, Australia, best man of his wedding to Ms. Rowe.
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The doctor said his relationship with Michael Jackson was the closest he has ever had with any patient. He went to Neverland 12-15 times.
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"My recollection I did not speak with any single member of the family about this lawsuit," Dr. Metzger testified.
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Cahan: Have you spoken with Jackson's family members about this lawsuit? Dr. Metzger: Basically no
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As to his attorney, Metzger said he knows there's an arrangement for payment by the plaintiffs and there's also an arrangement between the 2
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"There were no negotiations, I basically said this is my fee and they said ok," Dr. Metzger explained.
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Cahan asked the judge to order him to answer, which judge did. He said he charges approximately $1,000/hour.
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The doctor said he's spent about 6 hours of his time. Cahan asked how much he charges and he said he was not comfortable disclosing his rate
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Dr. Metzger: I believe it's reasonable for my time reviewing the records, giving deposition and testimony in this case.
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Dr. Metzger: I'll be sending a bill at the end of the trial.
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At that time, Rowe also said Eric George was a good attorney. Cahan asked if the doc is charging plaintiffs anything to be here today.
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The doctor said he reached out to Debbie Rowe after seeing in the media that she testified in this case. He wanted to give her some support.
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Cahan: Are plaintiffs' paying for your attorney in this case? Dr. Metzger: I believe so. C: How much does he charge? Dr. M: I don't know
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Cahan: Did plaintiffs' counsel help you find an attorney? Dr. Metzger: Yes
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Dr. Metzger said Chang told him she had an attorney to refer that she thought would suit his needs. She recommended Eric George.
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Dr. Metzger first spoke with plaintiffs' attorneys about testifying back in April or May. He has been subpoenaed.
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Doctor said he was out of town from middle of July until mid-Aug. Early July he advised plaintiffs' counsel about his absence.
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Dr. Metzger said he spoke w/ Chang on the phone about 2 weeks ago and in met her in person with his attorney 2-3 nights ago for an hour.
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"I viewed Michael as a very good friend of mine and I think it was vice-versa," Dr. Metzger testified.
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"I'm well acquainted with the immediate Jackson family and some other members," the doctor said.
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"Janet and Randy asked me to evaluate her health," Dr. Metzger said. "I've previously taken care of Janet many years ago."
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Dr. Metzger: I advised her to fly to Arizona for a concert. I do not know where she was in Arizona, I did not advise her to go to a spa.
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He gave Mrs. Jackson advice about traveling because of her health.
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Dr. Metzger met Katherine Jackson many years ago, he said. He provided some medical care to her last Summer.
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He said there were times the children went to his house for dinner, went to the movies.
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Dr. Metzger said he had a moderately close relationship with the children in comparison with his relationship to MJ.
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In depo Dr. Metzger's said: Q: And it seems like you also had a very close relationship with Michael's children, correct? A: Yes
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The doctor was very close to MJ and moderately close to the children.
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Dr. Metzger said he had, in bits and pieces, taken care of other Jackson's family members, including MJ's children.
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The doctor said he looked at some of MJ's medical records over the past several days. "I did not look at 26 years of medical records."
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"I told the truth to the best of my ability," Dr. Metzger said about his deposition and his trial testimony.
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Dr. Metzger said that at the time of his deposition, he received a great amount of the file back, but it was out of order and missing pages.
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There may be an insurance file and one major file, the doctor said. His counsel did not give his medical record prior to his deposition.
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Dr. Metzger: Some of my records were given to my attorney at the time, didn't keep medical records.
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Cahan inquired about the time of deposition whether Dr. Metzger had MJ's medical files.
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No further question. Kathryn Cahan, for AEG, doing cross examination.
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Chang: Do you recall having a conversation with Paul Gongaware about MJ's inability to sleep? Dr. Metzger: Yes, I do.
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Jurors entered the court at 2:41 pm. Dr. Allan Metzger resumed testimony. Deborah Chang continued the questions.
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Bina: We can never get back what Dr. Metzger's memory actually was. Judge: Ok, I'm ready to rule. I'm excluding it.
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Panish: Defense will argue MJ had long history of use of Propofol. The evidence here is that Propofol was used in connection with surgeries.
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"This is about refreshing his recollection with someone else's memory," Bina argued.
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Panish: What we did, show him the testimony, is appropriate. Non-retained experts can be refreshed.
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"There's no other way to fix this other than keep it out," Cahan urged the judge.
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Cahan said the 38 pages of Rowe's testimony detailed the set up the anesthesiologist in German, logistic, what drugs have been provided.
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Bina said Chang corrupted the witness by giving another witness' version of the events so he was able to taylor his answer according to hers
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Bina said she's asking for fair remedy here, which is keep this part out of Dr. Metzger's out.
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Bina: He already testified without the taint of someone else's testimony. Even if she acted in good faith, it irreparably tainted his memory
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Judge then precluded plaintiffs from asking anything related to the issue German doctors and Propofol used to sleep.
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Chang: I don't think it was intentional violation of court's order. I believe we acted in good faith Judge: The good faith exception, huh?
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Judge had ruled that non-retained expert witnesses should not be given copies of other witnesses' testimony.
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Chang gave 38 pages of Debbie Rowe's testimony to Dr. Metzger to read.
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Outside the presence of the jury, Deborah Chang argued she doesn't think it's appropriate for the court to sanction.
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Around 1:40 pm PT, jurors were escorted by sheriff's department. We're told they had security brief for sequestration during deliberation.
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Judge ordered jurors back at 1:30p PT to have a security meeting. Attorneys ordered back at 2:00p PT.
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Chang: Did he look like this? Dr. Metzger: Oh no, not at all C: Would you've been concerned? Dr. M: Oh yes, oh yes
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Chang showed Dr. Metzger the picture of MJ during fitting on June 19, 2009.
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Dr Metzger: One of the things he discuss was Diprivan. April 18, 2009 was the last time Dr. Metzger saw MJ alive.
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Dr. Metzger: Basically he said any IV treatment is potentially dangerous, that he didn't know anyone who would administer IV anesthesia.
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"I don't remember if I called back or just relay the message I couldn't help," the doctor said.
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"I needed advice getting him to sleep and I also asked about a doctor in London," Dr. Metzger explained.
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He spoke with the head of anesthesia at Cedars Sinai, since anesthesiologists have to manage pain and sleep.
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After leaving the house, Dr. Metzger said he called a few colleagues to see if there was any other medication or avenues to help MJ sleep.
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"I had a feeling that any IV given in a home is potentially precarious," Dr. Metzger explained.
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He was allowed upstairs at Carolwood, did not see any locked doors, medical equipment or oxygen tanks.
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The doctor said he had free access to the house and the children. "I was ecstatic to see the children," the doctor said.
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MJ indicated he could not sleep, the doc said. "This time he was in a totally different place," Dr. Metzger said.
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The doctor said the stress was related to "Can I do 50 shows?"
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Dr. Metzger said MJ was more stressed when he saw him in April 2009 than during the phone call in Feb. 2009.
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Chang: Did he ever seek painkillers to get high? Dr. Metzger: No, I don't believe this was in any way recreational
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Chang: At that time, did MJ ask you for any narcotic or prescription drugs? Dr. Metzger: No
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Dr. Metzger: I had one phone conversation in 2009 and I visited him in April 2009.
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When not under stress, the doctor said MJ could sleep on Tylenol PM, which generally worked.
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Chang: Did MJ ever ask you to find someone to infuse anesthesia in him? Dr. Metzger: No
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Chang: In the 26 years you worked w/ MJ did he ever ask you for Propofol before the HIStory tour? Metzger: Those words were never said by MJ
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"MJ was really tired and very frustrated, he felt he wasn't performing well," Dr. Metzger said about his sleepiness.
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"I wanted to be proactive and ready," the doctor said about HIStory tour. He testified he sent a copy of the plan to Gongaware, as producer
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Dangerous was cut short so MJ could enter rehab. Dr. Metzger said Dr. Forecast gave MJ too much Demerol.
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The doctor said he didn't think there was a plan for Dangerous tour. He didn't think a good job was done then.
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"I know that Michael can't sleep when he's creating, or after he was creating, he always wanted to make it better," Dr. Metzger recalled.
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The doctor wrote a letter detailing a plan to help MJ sleep. He said he sent a copy of it to the producer, MJ, Karen Faye, Debbie Rowe.
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Chang: As the HIStory tour doctor, were you concerned with MJ's sleeping disorder during the second leg of the tour? Dr. Metzger: Yes, I was
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In his deposition, Dr. Metzger said he didn't remember who Paul Gongaware was. He said he didn't have all his records with him.
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Dr. Metzger saw all the shows in Australia. He said MJ would lose 7-8 pounds after each performance.
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The doctor said he saw several MJ shows, but nothing like what he saw in Sydney, Australia. Chang played snippet of the show.
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"It was a beautiful, caring, solid relationship," Dr. Metzger explained.
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Dr. Metzger: I see he did a wise thing over the years of not exposing their faces, so they could go out and not be recognized.
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Dr. Metzger: The relationship was extremely loving, non fearful.
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The doctor said MJ always wanted to be a father. Chang: Did he enjoy being a father? Dr. Metzger: Very much so
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Dr. Metzger said he knew MJ was going to get married to Debbie Rowe during the HIStory tour. During the tour he found out Rowe was pregnant.
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Chang: Were would your allegiance fall, with the producer or patient? Dr. Metzger: Of course the patient, regardless if it was MJ or not
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He said he would've never signed a document that had that clause in it, it's a conflict of interest.
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"I've never seen a document like this," Dr. Metzger said.
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Chang showed Murray's contract to Metzger and asked if he was ever given a contract that says doctor could be terminated by the producer.
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"I never put in jeopardy his health for performance," he said.
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Dr. Metzger said he never had the issue where he had to put MJ in danger to continue the tour.
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In the tour, his main responsibility was with Michael Jackson. He said he was never approached by a promoter/producer with a contract.
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He said he would've charged his normal house call rate, if they needed him during the tour.
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Dr. Metzger: I basically asked for nothing (payment). I knew this would be an honor, would bill based on being needed.
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Chang showed letter from Metzger to insurance company that he'd be accompanying MJ, cast members and crew (180-190 people) in HIStory tour
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Metzger said MJ approached him to go on "HIStory" tour. He thought it would be fun, wanted doc to be best man on his wedding to Debbie Rowe
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"It's hard to see that," Dr. Metzger expressed after movies were played, somewhat emotional.
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Chang played clip of "Heal the World" film and "Earth Song." Dr. Metzger watched them with somber face, shook his head to the beat at times
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The doctor said MJ always had a message in his short film, that humans should be human beings to each other.
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Chang: Did he enjoy going out incognito? Dr. Metzger: Oh, he loved it!
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Dr. Metzger said he watched MJ's short video "Ghost." Chang showed photo of Dr. Metzger and Michael Jackson as the white mayor.
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Dr. Metzger: I don't know if he didn't follow my recommendations or it didn't work.
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Chang: Did you try to work w/ Forecast to resolve the issue? Dr. Metzger: I think we had 2-3 discussions on how to lower the dose of Demerol
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Sleep issues: That was the first time I was aware of the issue, didn't have problems in Bad tour, the doctor said.
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Dr. Metzger got a call during the tour. There were couple of issues related to dehydration and Dr. Forecast administering Demerol.
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Dangerous tour: Metzger: I was informed he'd (Forecast) be taking over the medical role, and I would not be needed because of the distance
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Dr. Metzger said he did several examinations of Michael for insurance prior to tours.
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Dr. Metzger said he would agree that MJ needed the majority of the surgeries he underwent, specially after the burn.
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Dr. Metzger: I wasn't concerned about anesthesia, I was always concerned about too many surgeries.
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"I did not ever ever see him intoxicated with too many pain medications," he said.
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Chang: Did you personally ever see MJ under the influence? Dr. Metzger: No. I saw him groggy but never drunk.
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He said he thinks it's because Rowe thought he could do something about it.
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On numerous occasions, Debbie Rowe would talk to Dr. Metzger when she thought other doctors were giving MJ too many painkillers.
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Dr. Metzger: I was in touch, not as spies, but wanted to have fingers on the pulse of what was going on with my buddy.
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Dr. Metzger: I worked with Karen Faye, Debbie Rowe, Grace Rwamba.
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Dr. Metzger: Absolutely not! I never gave him Demerol or any hard narcotics.
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Chang: Do you believe he was your friend so he could get prescription drugs from you?
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Chang: Was your belief he looked for doctors to get drugs? Dr. Metzger: No
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"He'd rely on others and had faith in the medical profession," Dr. Metzger said. "He often bounced things off me."
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"Michael was very private," Dr. Metzger opined. He said often he wanted to know about his medical care, but often didn't.
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Dr. Metzger said he was always involved in MJ's medical care because he wanted to make sure MJ was safe.
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Dr. Metzger: MJ had to shop around in the city for quality physicians for himself and his children.
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