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Yes, they are hurting.... for more money.
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yeah hurting that they were left out of the will.
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AHHHHHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH, really?euadoropao2;3346928 said:
Haven't they been MJ's relatives way longer than any of us has been his fans? Whose blood ran through MJ's veins? The Jacksons', huh?
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Big Apple2;3342238 said:
Yes, Jermaine should pay child support for HIS children. I never said that he shouldn’t. It’s not his children’s fault that he got all caught up like that. It also is not their fault that their mother carelessly caused all of them to become siblings/cousins.
Again, it is good that the Jacksons have been able to hold themselves together, because the type of stuff that Alejandra has been doing is absolutely pitiful. It’s amazing that Randy and Jermaine are still able to do things together as brothers—like when the two of them performed on stage during MJ’s 30th Anniversary Special back in 2001.
Still in all, yes, it would have been good if Jermaine did watch what he was doing so that he could set a better example for his sons. But, let’s not leave out Alejandra.
Look at the web that Alejandra has been weaving over the past 20+ years.
When she started seeing Randy, he was a married man that was living with his wife, Eliza. In other words, Alejandra was creepin’, sneakin’ and sleepin’ with another woman’s man and DID NOT mind doing so.
While Randy was married to his wife, Eliza, Alejandra had a baby by Randy. Alejandra had her first baby by him the very same year that he had gotten married to Eliza. Alejandra didn’t even give Eliza (Mrs. Jackson) a chance to give her husband his first child from her own womb. Alejandra got in the way and had one for him before her.
Alejandra had the second baby by Randy during the year that he and Eliza got a divorce. Alejandra’s second baby came into the world one year after Eliza’s first baby by Randy. In other words, Alejandra had one baby during the year of the initial marriage and was working on the other baby before the divorce. Alejandra caused the divorce. Alejandra didn’t give a damn about the wife, the husband, or the married couple’s child.
You know how you can tell that Alejandra didn’t give a damn about any of them? Because of the way that she went ahead and had another child during that marriage, and because of the way that she later got with Randy’s brother.
Randy’s Kids by Eliza and Alejandra
Genevieve, born December 1989 – by Alejandra (Year of marriage) – Genevieve is now approx. 22-years-old
Stevanna, born June 1990 – by Eliza (Randy’s then wife) – Stevanna is now approx. 21-years-old
Randy, Jr., born October 1991 – by Alejandra (Year of divorce) – Randy, Jr. is now approx. 20-years-old
Alejandra was pumping out babies with no shame whatsoever. Alejandra was receiving free room and board at Hayvenhurst during the whole time that she was with Randy. She lived off of Randy’s mother, and brother, Michael, with no shame whatsoever.
Randy and Eliza got married in 1989. Randy and Eliza got divorced in 1991. Alejandra was in the middle of their marriage like a wedge the whole time and kept on seeing Randy afterward. Alejandra was playing strong-hold.
Jermaine’s Kids with Alejandra
Jaafar Jeremiah Jackson, born July 1996 (soon to be age 15)
Jermajesty Jermaine Jackson, born October 2000 (soon to be age 11)
While Jermaine was still married to Hazel, he started seeing Margaret Maldonado. After he and Hazel got divorced, he and Margaret got together full-fledged and were together from 1988 to 1995. They had Jeremy Maldonado Jackson in December 1986 and Jourdynn Michael Jackson in January 1989.
In other words, Alejandra was around the Jackson family early enough to hear about Jermaine and Hazel having problems because of Margaret.
If Jermaine and Margaret were together full-fledged from 1988 to 1995, there is no way that Alejandra didn’t see Jermaine and Margaret together as a couple. They were together while she was with Randy. Alejandra obviously knew, and she did not care. She was messing around with Jermaine while he was with Margaret. How else could Alejandra have had a baby for Jermaine in 1996 right after Jermaine and Margaret split up in 1995? And why else would they want to get married within the same year that Jermaine and Margaret split up?
So, once again, Alejandra was messing with another woman’s man. In addition to this, this man was the brother of the other man whose relationship she didn’t care about.
Now, Ms. Messy has all these kids caught up in her drama which shows she wasn’t thinking much about them either. If she were truly thinking about her children, she would not have caused them to become siblings/cousins.
Alejandra is a big barrel of nonsense, and Katherine Jackson, who has been giving this woman free room and board for two decades should not have to continue dealing with Alejandra’s wackiness head on.
What a horrible web she has been weaving for all to get tangled in. And now that the web-weaver has been told to get out once and for all, she is hissing for all to hear around the world. And while hissing, she is pushing hard to get a huge payout from Jermaine in the form of child support so she can continue living a rich and famous lifestyle—which is a lifestyle that she did not honestly work for.
You know why she’s pushing so hard to get large amounts of support from Jermaine? It is because she cannot request child support from both Jermaine and his brother, Randy. If she could, she would, but she can’t.
Randy’s children are now in their 20’s. In the State of California, child support ends at age 18. If the children are still in school, it ends at age 19 max.
Alejandra, the web-weaver/man-snatcher/home-on-top-of-home-wrecker, is trying to get out of one brother what she cannot get out of both.
I hope Jermaine's sons do not grow up and think that women are supposed to act like their mother. I also hope they know not to lose their wives for women that are not worth having. Life is a lot easier to manage when they create their families with the women that they've originally asked to say, "I do" over the women that say, "I'll do you."
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and? Shame they dont act like family.whats the saying u cant pick your family but u can your friends etc.thats why mj spent most of his adult life trying to attach himself to other families looking for what he didnt get from his own family.which led to chandler etc etc
poor jermaine is just a victim of this woman according to your post.she caused all these problems.just like jerm u dont want to him to take an responsibility for his actions.after all its not like he has a history of being a deadbeat is it
and jerm threatened to pull out of the msg shows cause of $ issues yeah him getting on stage with randy was all about love
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If the Jacksons weren't related to MJ some of y'all wouldn't be sugar coated what they did and said about him, that's for sure! Blood shouldn't give them a pass to think they can do and say whatever about him!:smilerolleyes: It should have made them more respectful towards him as his siblings! Especially, since many if not all have always lived under his money!
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Well said.respects not given its earned.it doesnt get given just cause they are related to mj.they get judged on their actions.blame them for acting in such a fashion.not those who comment on what they do.if they didnt do it there would be nothing to comment on would there
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AllForMJ;3358940 said:
You forgot that while Randy was married so was Alejandra to a Nicols Ray one of Randys friend , so she could get a green card and stay in the country. She was still married to Nicolos Ray when she married Jermaine. That is why there is no spousal support. She tried , she wanted spousal support with a 5-bedroom house.
this!
this!!
and this!!!! Is the truth and nothing but the truth!
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Are there any individuals in this thread that would like to say they fully support the mistresses? And, that they commend the mistresses, and applaud the mistresses, for all the work that they’ve put into disrespecting the wives so that they themselves can feel appealing? And, that all mistresses across the globe deserve the utmost respect from everyone in this thread?
Also, while reading what I've posted above in post #126, don't overlook the first paragraph of it which says...
Also, while reading what I've posted above in post #126, don't overlook the first paragraph of it which says...
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That's a good point. Hazel was nobody's hoe and she still had to fight him for child support although she was the first and legal wife.
He just doesn't want to pay the mother of his kids child support, even the first love of his life.
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elusive moonwalker;3359111 said:
Excerpt from "Was Michael Jackson Framed?"
Jackson’s troubles began when his van broke down on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles in May 1992. Stranded in the middle of the heavily trafficked street, Jackson was spotted by the wife of Mel Green, an employee at Rent-a-Wreck, an offbeat car-rental agency a mile away. Green went to the rescue. When Dave Schwartz, the owner of the car-rental company, heard Green was bringing Jackson to the lot, he called his wife, June, and told her to come over with their 6-year-old daughter and her son from her previous marriage. The boy, then 12, was a big Jackson fan. Upon arriving, June Chandler Schwartz told Jackson about the time her son had sent him a drawing after the singer’s hair caught on fire during the filming of a Pepsi commercial. Then she gave Jackson their home number.
“It was almost like she was forcing [the boy] on him,” Green recalls. “I think Michael thought he owed the boy something, and that’s when it all started.”
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This excerpt shows MJ did not initiate that friendship. They attached themselves to him by June telling him that Jordan had sent him a drawing after his hair caught on fire during the filming of the Pepsi commercial. MJ was not out looking for people to attach himself to. He was trying to be inconspicuous while driving down the street in that van, but the van broke down. That is the reason why his path unfortunately crossed with the Chandlers.
What did the wife of Mel Green reveal? She revealed that June was forcing her son on MJ, and that June gave MJ their home number without him asking for it.
Did June allow MJ to pick his friends? No, she did not. She quickly manipulated the situation that brought MJ to Rent-a-Wreck.
After June did this to swiftly get into MJ's life, Evan later came along and pulled all of that other crap as a way to demand attention.
Click on the below link then do a "Ctrl + F," type in the word "attention," and see how many times Evan mentions that word.
http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/evan-chandler-and-david-schwarz-full-transcript/
That family attached themselves to MJ. Every single one of them, beginning with June being a fast talker.
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All adults in this situation have behaved like they are the children--get what I want when I want and deal with the consequences later.
No matter what Alejandra did, she could not have done it without the ones who had the burden and responsibility to be loyal. If Randy cheated on his wife with her, then in the end the responsibility went to Randy; he was the one who took vows. If Jermaine had children by a woman who already had children with his brother, it is Jermaine who had the burden and responsibility to be loyal to his brother and nieces/nephews.
Again, in the end, no one can point the finger at any without pointing the finger at the others. They are on equal footing.
It isn't about supporting a mistress but those with the mistresses won't get but so much support either.
In the end it isn't even about what they do with each other. It is about the children. All anyone can expect is that all show respect for the children involved and give up pride, money, etc. to make sure that they are fine.
No matter what Alejandra did, she could not have done it without the ones who had the burden and responsibility to be loyal. If Randy cheated on his wife with her, then in the end the responsibility went to Randy; he was the one who took vows. If Jermaine had children by a woman who already had children with his brother, it is Jermaine who had the burden and responsibility to be loyal to his brother and nieces/nephews.
Again, in the end, no one can point the finger at any without pointing the finger at the others. They are on equal footing.
It isn't about supporting a mistress but those with the mistresses won't get but so much support either.
In the end it isn't even about what they do with each other. It is about the children. All anyone can expect is that all show respect for the children involved and give up pride, money, etc. to make sure that they are fine.
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Soundmind, what you have quoted is me talking about the Chandlers. And you already know that the Arvizos is a family that tried to build on the original lie that was told by the Chandlers. Also, MJ did not meet the Arvizos on his own. Someone else set that up.
Now, if you are trying to prove with that list that MJ wanted to replace his entire family with these people and other people, as you are showing with the etc., then why is MJ revealing in this video, that he and his family members got together on a regular basis to celebrate Joseph and Katherine?
While watching this video, does MJ seem to you like he is telling the world that he was trying to replace his family, or is he conveying the opposite?
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It's true that Alejandra had to come in through someone. She came in through Randy and she stayed through Jermaine. And in the end, the mistress had to finally get the boot, so all the madness could finally get a chance to die down.
It's been a long time coming, but it's finally being done. She should have been put out years ago.
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:lol:
I like talking to you guys. We can go on and on about this mess. LOL And it IS a mess! It being a mess might be about the ONLY thing that we all can agree on unanimously. LOL
Peace out, you guys...
I like talking to you guys. We can go on and on about this mess. LOL And it IS a mess! It being a mess might be about the ONLY thing that we all can agree on unanimously. LOL
Peace out, you guys...
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Amen.
LindavG
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Michael never spoke badly about his family in public. He was too nice and classy for that. However, if you listen to private recordings (like the Glenda tapes) you'll notice he is not that fond of them.
Prime example:
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I agree...I once tweeted that to some Jackson family supports and was told that Michael NEVER said that and do I have proof....so I linked them to this video...and ya know what...I NEVER got response...
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LindavG, no matter what he said in private during that call that Glenda was secretly taping, MJ was not trying to replace his family.
If he wanted other people to be his family members, then he would have told his mother, father, brothers and sisters to not attend court with him between 2003 and 2005, because he would much rather have the people that are not his actual family members to attend with him.
Did he do that? No, he did not.
What would you have said if his family did not go through that with him? You would have been wondering where they were, huh? You would have cried foul, if they did not show up, huh?
Stop trying to separate that man from his blood line. You have no control over that, just like you had no control over MJ. You are wasting your time trying to do what is not possible.
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Nobody needs to have separated Michael from his "bloodline," he did that all by himself. LOL!
I believe if the "bloodline" didn't CONTINUE to bug him about reunion tours and/or business ventures, that things would have been a whole lot different between Michael and his "bloodline."
Listen to the Moonwalk ghost writer tapes he wasn't secretely tapped then. The least his siblings could have done for him was to support him during the trial and attend it, that was the LEAST they could have done, they didn't do him any favors by showing up there, after having lived off his money for decades that was the least they could have done, Michael didn't owe them just because his relatives showed up. Katherine and Joseph were demanding money to defend him against the allegations during the trial, their behavior was as nasty back then as it is now. What does this tell you? What was the reason to show up in the first place? Did they do it out of love? Or did they do it to demand something in return outta MJ (which they did all the blackmailing for reunion tours are well documented, which happened after the trial even as recent as 07/08/09). Your repeated posts have shown there is no point in talking to you as according to you everyone else but the Jackson's is evil trying lure these poor innocent people into something they don't want to do. Have a nice day.
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Frankly, I have a problem with both as a source. Glenda's tapes is a greatest invasion or privacy I have ever seen. Michael could not even have a private conversation without being taped. As to 'ghost tapes', this is very inappropriate, in my opinion, for a ghost writer to publish these tapes after Michael's death. Michael did not want this information in his book. I am as guilty as everybody else for listening to these conversations. However, I respect Michael's right to keep private frustration with some family members private.
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exactly.and the rest.theres been loads and thats just the ppl we are aware of.yeah there certainly wasnt a pattern of mj looking for a family.
In the words of a great man."tight nit my ass"but i guess some are still living in the in the 70s with the make believe motown created image
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LindavG
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I never claimed he was trying to replace his family. I'm just saying that the fact he never spoke against his family in public doesn't mean that he was close with them. As he says, this whole image of the tight-nit Jackson family is a facade to look good to the public. That doesn't mean he didn't love his family. I'm sure he did and it's obvious he adored his mother. But he quite clearly distanced himself from the rest of his family (which they admitted themselves on numerous occasions). I don't understand why this is so hard for you to accept.
You are going to the other extreme. Michael was in a vulnerable position during the trial and he needed all the support he could get. Of course he wasn't going to turn his own family down when they wanted to attend court with him.
You are putting words in my mouth. Damn yes I'd be upset with them if they couldn't even be there for their brother/son in his darkest hour when he's been supporting them since he was 5 years old. But they were there (and I hope it was with the genuine intention to just support him) so there is no need to wonder about "what if...".
Nobody is trying to seperate Michael from his family. But you'd have to be in denial not to see that Michael was closer to other families (like the Cascios) than he was to his own. Didn't Janet say she hadn't seen Michael in two years even though he had had Prince Michael during that time? What kind of aunt doesn't even pay a visit to her newborn nephew in over 2 years? I'm an aunt myself and I can't even imagine that. No schedule would be busy enough to keep me away from my nephews for that long. It tells you something about her priorities.
And I am the last person who would derail the thread to JFam bashing so don't take my post the wrong way. I do not 'hate' the Jacksons but this is just the truth as I see it. It happens to many families.
Also, I didn't know the Moonwalk tapes were released! Can anyone send me the link (via PM if necessary) please?? I'd be forever grateful
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