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AllForMJ said:
http://desireespeakssolisten.blogspot.com/2010/06/story-of-alejandra-oaziaza-jackson.html
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Everyone in the Jackson family has supported Alejandra Jackson over the years, giving her money and other necessities. Her presence in the home with Michael’s children alarmed me and I was reassured by a Jackson insider that Katherine brought Grace, the children’s former nanny into the home because of incidents involving Michael’s children and Alejandra Jackson.
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What incident? I remember that, Katherine brought Grace on, soon after 25th June 2009. Grace was brought solely because of the MJJ's kids, since she was their nanny, the only person they knew really well. There was no time, for MJJ's kids to start any incidents with Alejandra. The kids were in shock and mourning, I doubt they even noticed Alejandra, then. I read the letter long time ago, but it is all based she say - he say.
Grace is not anymore PPB nanny. She got fired in 2010.
 
And there is a good reason for Grace being fired. she wasn´t the best thing to bring back in, it was just for Blanket´s sake, they soon realized they had to get rid of her.
 
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Diplomate - whatever you may consider the facts to be, you are not entitled to use that kind of language. And please do not go to the other extreme, declaring the Jacksons to be wonderful. We are not saying you have to champion them. We ARE saying that you have to be respectful when discussing them.
 
TheChosenOne said:
Diplomate - whatever you may consider the facts to be, you are not entitled to use that kind of language. And please do not go to the other extreme, declaring the Jacksons to be wonderful. We are not saying you have to champion them. We ARE saying that you have to be respectful when discussing them.
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But which kind of language do you want to use with these peoples ? The words I use are the truth, so it's not Bad to tell and write the truth.

I don't have respect AT ALL for these kind of people.

 
noirnoar;3336562 said:
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What incident? I remember that, Katherine brought Grace on, soon after 25th June 2009. Grace was brought solely because of the MJJ's kids, since she was their nanny, the only person they knew really well. There was no time, for MJJ's kids to start any incidents with Alejandra. The kids were in shock and mourning, I doubt they even noticed Alejandra, then. I read the letter long time ago, but it is all based she say - he say.
Grace is not anymore PPB nanny. She got fired in 2010.
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Look at what’s being said about Alejandra. Disregard the stuff about Grace.

missred07;3336907 said:
I read this long time ago but I really don't know how much can we believe.
It's all she said, he said....
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The date that the post about Alejandra was placed on the website is from October 2009. The person knew back then that the family was working on finally getting her to leave. Isn’t that exactly what is now taking place here in 2011? What is her vacate date?

“I have a feeling that the entire family is getting together to get Alejandra out once and for all.”

Posted at 5:04PM on Oct 18th 2009 by Insider

As for the other stuff, I’m pretty much disregarding the majority of it, because it’s already known that Grace is not there. Plus, MJ did not go all out of his way to avoid Grace the way he did when it came to Alejandra. He was trying to avoid Alejandra like the plague. lol

Diplomate;3337115 said:
It's from pathetic Jermaine these blablabla, he found a job at last!

What I mean in my post before, it's you have 2 morons, Randy and Jermaine, who don't give a shit about their kids, they used the MJ money. And one slut, Alejandra.

It's not insults dear mods ^^, it's facts.
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The main thing that I’m trying to point out is that Alejandra uses people as a survival tactic. She is a run-away. She’s been using men and lying to them for years. That’s the only thing that she knows.

Randy and Jermaine, on the other hand, are still members of the Jackson family and are still a part of the group that launched Michael’s career. Do you see people asking Alejandra for her autograph?

People still recognize Randy and Jermaine when they are out and about. There is a reason for that. Years of hard work went into that reason. They may not have risen to MJ’s level, but they are not exactly peons. There would not be a 2300 Jackson Street section on MJJC that is dedicated to the members of MJ’s family if they were insignificant. Alejandra, on the other hand, has a history of doing things that makes her a bonafide freeloader. Bonafide. She's made a career out of it.

Jermaine should get custody of his kids. Alejandra should enroll in classes that will help her to build a real career and finally stand on her own two feet. She needs to allow herself to see that she can provide for herself, then she won't need to lie to make a way for herself. Until she does it, she can't continue having champagne taste when she knows that she only has beer money.
 
^^^ Jermaine and Randy are known because they are brothers of MJ.


There are 3 people guilty here : Alejandra, Randy and Jermaine.
 
Diplomate said:
^^^ Jermaine and Randy are known because they are brothers of MJ.

And they are stupid, pathetic in one word moron.

There are 3 people guilty here : Alejandra, Randy and Jermaine.
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MJ was not a Jackson 5 by himself. MJ and his brothers raised their family up out of poverty together as a team.

MJ will always and forever be associated with the Jackson 5. That is the reason why whenever MJ did a concert alone, he still acknowledged his brothers. He did it during the rehearsal for "This Is It" as well.

I do agree that Alejandra, Randy and Jermaine are caught in an entanglement, but it is one that needs to be sorted out. Alejandra needs to become independent without riding on the Jackson family name in a negative way if she plans to hold on to any bit of dignity that she has left. Money from a negative book deal is going to dry up and take her with it. Then, she will be back at square one. That book will only experience longevity IF it is one that pleases the J5/Jacksons/MJ fanbase. Anything short of that will dry up and blow away in the wind. The J5/Jacksons/MJ tri-fanbase is much larger than any group of readers that she may try to woo.
 
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AllForMJ;3337399 said:
The main thing that I’m trying to point out is that Alejandra uses people as a survival tactic. She is a run-away. She’s been using men and lying to them for years. That’s the only thing that she knows.

Randy and Jermaine, on the other hand, are still members of the Jackson family and are still a part of the group that launched Michael’s career. Do you see people asking Alejandra for her autograph?

People still recognize Randy and Jermaine when they are out and about. There is a reason for that. Years of hard work went into that reason. They may not have risen to MJ’s level, but they are not exactly peons. There would not be a 2300 Jackson Street section on MJJC that is dedicated to the members of MJ’s family if they were insignificant. Alejandra, on the other hand, has a history of doing things that makes her a bonafide freeloader. Bonafide. She's made a career out of it.

Jermaine should get custody of his kids. Alejandra should enroll in classes that will help her to build a real career and finally stand on her own two feet. She needs to allow herself to see that she can provide for herself, then she won't need to lie to make a way for herself. Until she does it, she can't continue having champagne taste when she knows that she only has beer money.
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As far as I'm concerned, the THREE of them are in the same boat and if Alejandra learned about "survival," then, in my opinion, she learned it by watching the actions of CERTAIN Jackson family members during her 20-something years living amongst them. LOL!

Randy and Jermaine may have been able to do their thing, BACK IN THE DAY, but it's very hard to have any respect for men, who don't own up to their responsibility. Jermaine is trying his very hard to get out of paying the amount of child support which the court has imposed and I really don't believe he is sincerely interested in obtaining custody of his children. He is way too busy TRYING to re-create what he had back in the J5 days.

I'm not saying that he does not enjoy being a parent, I'm just saying that he does not want the RESPONSIBILITY that comes along with that very important job.

Years of hard work that STOPPED the minute Michael decided to go solo. What happened, they weren't interested in hard work, unless Michel was involved?

Let me also add, Alejandra ain't that only one in that crew with CHAMPAGNE taste and a beer budget. LOL!
 
Jermaine should get custody of his kids.
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i really doubt he wants that. then he would have start paying for them for a start.

I do agree that Alejandra, Randy and Jermaine are caught in an entanglement, but it is one that needs to be sorted out. Alejandra needs to become independent without riding on the Jackson family name in a negative way if she plans to hold on to any bit of dignity that she has left.
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the brothers helped to create that by dumping on her katherine and hayvernhurst knowing that everything would be paid for by mj. they took no responsibility for their kids which led to the situation we are in now
 
Big Apple2 said:
As far as I'm concerned, the THREE of them are in the same boat and if Alejandra learned about "survival," then, in my opinion, she learned it by watching the actions of CERTAIN Jackson family members during her 20-something years living amongst them. LOL!

Randy and Jermaine may have been able to do their thing, BACK IN THE DAY, but it's very hard to have any respect for men, who don't own up to their responsibility. Jermaine is trying his very hard to get out of paying the amount of child support which the court has imposed and I really don't believe he is sincerely interested in obtaining custody of his children. He is way too busy TRYING to re-create what he had back in the J5 days.

I'm not saying that he does not enjoy being a parent, I'm just saying that he does not want the RESPONSIBILITY that comes along with that very important job.

Years of hard work that STOPPED the minute Michael decided to go solo. What happened, they weren't interested in hard work, unless Michel was involved?

Let me also add, Alejandra ain't that only one in that crew with CHAMPAGNE taste and a beer budget. LOL!
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I feel you, Big Apple2.

But, because this is a very sticky situation, it's going to take doing something like having custody to get a handle on it.

Also, we have to keep in mind that these are totally different times right now. MJ is no longer here (for reasons that we are still trying to find out about). He passed away.

Jermaine will need to create a new Jermaine. Add his beautiful voice to backup female singers or something. The world still wants to hear from the Jacksons. He'll be okay once he figures out what direction he wants to go to start anew. He is still loved just like his other siblings are still loved.

Randy is good at writing songs. Maybe he should write for others. He and MJ wrote some cools songs together.

Whatever they do, they do not want to waste another minute feuding with Alejandra once she's out. Gotta keep things cordial. Time spent on tripping with her is time that can be used on something more productive. And vice versa. People can always make more money, but they do not get more time. Time has to be used wisely.
 
Did Jermaine ever pay child support for Jeremy and Jourdynn? I read Margarets book and she said Jermaine stood in front of a judge and said he didn't think Jeremy and Jourdynn were his. She felt he did it just to get out of the support. Blood tests proved the boys to be his...
She also said that Michael was the only Jackson who showed any concern for her boys and Michael did it out of LOVE
 
AllForMJ said:
Jermaine will need to create a new Jermaine. Add his beautiful voice to backup female singers or something. The world still wants to hear from the Jacksons. He'll be okay once he figures out what direction he wants to go to start anew. He is still loved just like his other siblings are still loved.

Randy is good at writing songs. Maybe he should write for others. He and MJ wrote some cools songs together.
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AllForMJ, I'm not too sure about that.

I just feel that too much time has lapsed between the J5 days and now. In my opinion, the boat has sailed on the brothers. Especially if you look at how Jermaine would like to do things. I don't think Jermaine is interested in going the route that Tito is presently enjoying. Jermaine wants big, huge concert dates, with all of the "pomp & circumstances" that comes along with those types of shows.

I guess that's why he WASTED so much time, waiting for Michael to join the brothers on stage. Jermaine knew that he would not be able to attain those types of numbers without Michael's participation. In my opinion, he played himself, he could have had a "decent" little following without Michael. It wouldn't have been as big, without Michael, but so what, at least he would have been working. Now, I'm afraid it's just too late.

The game has changed so much, and the brothers didn't keep up, because they waited and wasted time hoping that Michael would join them. Maybe things would be different now, had they just moved forward, without Michael. Who knows, but it's too late to find out now, in my opinion.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
i really doubt he wants that. then he would have start paying for them for a start.



the brothers helped to create that by dumping on her katherine and hayvernhurst knowing that everything would be paid for by mj. they took no responsibility for their kids which led to the situation we are in now
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Life isn't only about what a person wants to do. Life is about doing what a person needs to do. Besides, his kids are not toddlers. They are growing up. Time moves so fast, before Jermaine knows it, his kids will be grown.

If Alejandra gets out there and becomes desperate for money while she has his kids with her, she may start lying again to get into the life of another man for her survival. And this time when she does it, she will be bringing people with her.

If Jermaine helps his kids, God will help him. If Jermaine avoids his kids, God will keep him down like them. That's how it works.

Jermaine has something to work with. Alejandra does not. She needs to establish herself in order to provide for herself so she can end the cycle. There is no getting around it. If she doesn't learn how to be independent, she will always do things on impulse and end up in a bind.

The thing about parenting is this. Whatever you get yourself caught up in, your kids get caught up in it with you. Alejandra likes to play people for their money. That's a very risky game for a person to play when they have kids riding in their life as passengers.
 
ilmjj said:
Did Jermaine ever pay child support for Jeremy and Jourdynn? I read Margarets book and she said Jermaine stood in front of a judge and said he didn't think Jeremy and Jourdynn were his. She felt he did it just to get out of the support. Blood tests proved the boys to be his...
She also said that Michael was the only Jackson who showed any concern for her boys and Michael did it out of LOVE
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The bolded part..Jermaine REALLY said that????...THAT is terrible....Jermaine really should be ashamed of himself...really he should...just when I think I have heard the worse..stuff like this is brought to light. ..Also I am NOT surprised that Michael took concern for these children...THAT is why Michael was beautiful inside....Jermaine continues to make me sick...blahh
 
Diplomate said:
^^^ Jermaine and Randy are known because they are brothers of MJ.


There are 3 people guilty here : Alejandra, Randy and Jermaine.
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Consider this your final warning. One more instance of insults and name calling and it will be a ban. You have had enough warnings.
 
Big Apple2 said:
AllForMJ, I'm not too sure about that.

I just feel that too much time has lapsed between the J5 days and now. In my opinion, the boat has sailed on the brothers. Especially if you look at how Jermaine would like to do things. I don't think Jermaine is interested in going the route that Tito is presently enjoying. Jermaine wants big, huge concert dates, with all of the "pomp & circumstances" that comes along with those types of shows.

I guess that's why he WASTED so much time, waiting for Michael to join the brothers on stage. Jermaine knew that he would not be able to attain those types of numbers without Michael's participation. In my opinion, he played himself, he could have had a "decent" little following without Michael. It wouldn't have been as big, without Michael, but so what, at least he would have been working. Now, I'm afraid it's just too late.

The game has changed so much, and the brothers didn't keep up, because they waited and wasted time hoping that Michael would join them. Maybe things would be different now, had they just moved forward, without Michael. Who knows, but it's too late to find out now, in my opinion.
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I don't think it would ever be too late for him to make a comeback... he's certainly got the catalogue for it. I read Margaret's book online recently (it's out of print and insanely overpriced wherever I can find it, lol) and it's such a shame how he seemed so overwhelmed with jealousy about Michael's success. He could've had a perfectly tidy little career just... being Jermaine. He could've been releasing some very servicable solo recordings well into the 1990s and 2000s with a modest but committed following.

It's a shame some of the brothers always seemed to just wait around for MJ to join them in a reunion rather than press ahead happily with their own plans. Talk about hammering home to him how dependent they still were on him.
 
Big Apple2 said:
AllForMJ, I'm not too sure about that.

I just feel that too much time has lapsed between the J5 days and now. In my opinion, the boat has sailed on the brothers. Especially if you look at how Jermaine would like to do things. I don't think Jermaine is interested in going the route that Tito is presently enjoying. Jermaine wants big, huge concert dates, with all of the "pomp & circumstances" that comes along with those types of shows.

I guess that's why he WASTED so much time, waiting for Michael to join the brothers on stage. Jermaine knew that he would not be able to attain those types of numbers without Michael's participation. In my opinion, he played himself, he could have had a "decent" little following without Michael. It wouldn't have been as big, without Michael, but so what, at least he would have been working. Now, I'm afraid it's just too late.

The game has changed so much, and the brothers didn't keep up, because they waited and wasted time hoping that Michael would join them. Maybe things would be different now, had they just moved forward, without Michael. Who knows, but it's too late to find out now, in my opinion.
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His solo career brought forth some really good songs and they are standing the test of time. I still hear Jermaine's songs on the radio in 2011.

It would be nice to get some more from him. He has a beautiful voice. He has one of those voices that makes you want to get in the car in the springtime, roll down the windows and take a long ride. It's very mellow.

And he knows how to party too! I hope he's not doubting himself. "Let's Get Serious" still makes a person want to bob their head.



Get rid of the baby momma drama, get custody of his boys, and do the Jermaine thang.
 
jermaine could have made a career for himself he has a nice voice and would have done well in the soul genre but as everyone else says he was obsessed with living in the past and was waiting for mj to get back with them instead of going out there and creating something for himself. he blew it
 
xthunderx2 said:
The bolded part..Jermaine REALLY said that????...THAT is terrible....Jermaine really should be ashamed of himself...really he should...just when I think I have heard the worse..stuff like this is brought to light. ..Also I am NOT surprised that Michael took concern for these children...THAT is why Michael was beautiful inside....Jermaine continues to make me sick...blahh
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Katherine indeed has raised some 'great dad's' hasn't she? -_-
 
elusive moonwalker said:
jermaine could have made a career for himself he has a nice voice and would have done well in the soul genre but as everyone else says he was obsessed with living in the past and was waiting for mj to get back with them instead of going out there and creating something for himself. he blew it
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I have to agree with you..Jermaine's voice is not horrible...as a matter of fact I use to like..Do what you do....he had a good sound...I just wish he would worry about the here and now and leave the past alone....he could make new records and who knows maybe even sell one or two....I am sure he must still have fans waiting for him to release new stuff.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
jermaine could have made a career for himself he has a nice voice and would have done well in the soul genre but as everyone else says he was obsessed with living in the past and was waiting for mj to get back with them instead of going out there and creating something for himself. he blew it
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Yeah, he did kinda blow it there. Good lawd! Hopefully, he can unblow it though, because Alejandra seems to be gearing up to pull some stunts, and he needs to gear up too, do the right..real...thing and send her on her way.

This world doesn't need anymore negativity. It has too much as it is.

I'd put in Jermaine's CD and press play way before reading anything that Alejandra has to say. A book by her will give a person a headache from having to try and figure out which parts are true and which parts are lies from the front cover of the book to the back. Does anyone really have time to do all of that? I know I don't. LOL!!
 
xthunderx2 said:
I have to agree with you..Jermaine's voice is not horrible...as a matter of fact I use to like..Do what you do....he had a good sound...I just wish he would worry about the here and now and leave the past alone....he could make new records and who knows maybe even sell one or two....I am sure he must still have fans waiting for him to release new stuff.
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That IS another one of his nice jams, xthunderx2! Baby-making-music, too! lol

Jermaine needs to just come on out and drop that new CD like it's hot!!

And Alejandra, wow, let's see. Send her the link to summer enrollment before she spends all of her money and miss out on the chance to pay tuition and by her books. And if she doesn't want to be on a campus in public, University of Phoenix is cool, too! She can learn online at home. That'll work.
 
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AllForMJ said:
Yeah, he did kinda blow it there. Good lawd! Hopefully, he can unblow it though, because Alejandra seems to be gearing up to pull some stunts, and he needs to gear up too, do the right..real...thing and send her on her way.

This world doesn't need anymore negativity. It has too much as it is.

I'd put in Jermaine's CD and press play way before reading anything that Alejandra has to say. A book by her will give a person a headache from having to try and figure out which parts are true and which parts are lies from the front cover of the book to the back. Does anyone really have time to do all of that? I know I don't. LOL!!
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I'm afraid that'll be the same when reading Jermaine's/LaToya's/Joe's book. I would just read their books for entertainment purposes and take whatever they say with a 'bucket' of salt ;)
 
LindavG said:
I'm afraid that'll be the same when reading Jermaine's/LaToya's/Joe's book. I would just read their books for entertainment purposes and take whatever they say with a 'bucket' of salt ;)
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With a 'bucket' of salt?!! LindavG, that cracked me up!! :lol:
 
AllForMJ said:
That IS another one of his nice jams, xthunderx2! Baby-making-music, too! lol

Jermaine needs to just come on out and drop that new CD like it's hot!!

And Alejandra, wow, let's see. Send her the link to summer enrollment before she spends all of her money and miss out on the chance to pay tuition and by her books. And if she doesn't want to be on a campus in public, University of Phoenix is cool, too! She can learn online at home. That'll work.
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thank you your post made me:lmao:...and it is all so true...:lmao:
 
Jermaine blew his career with Word to the Bad. People don't forget that and how respected is he in the industry to get a record deal?
 
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