Janet Jackson on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno - January 9

[That Other Fan]

We should learn to separate business from pleasure especially in the entrainment business? So it is ok for Mrs Jackson to work with Dieter, and with Marc S? We all know what they did to Michael business wise

There is a difference between that and a appearance on a tv show MERELY to promote a project.

There were sharks in Mike's life (that have now found their way into Mrs. Jackson's life because she is a beneficiary and the guardian to the MAIN beneficiaries of Michael's estate).

Here the only thing we can do is hope Katherine has the wisdom to see these people for who they are and get them out of her life, just as Mike was unfortunately forced to do numerous times.

That's a "double standard" in YOUR opinion. LOL!

It's all good, I ain't trying to change anybody's mind. I'm just here to share an opinion.

We obviously have different opinions regarding the situation and that's fine, because if we ALL agreed on everything this board would be no fun to visit.

Now I'm gonna "Ease On Down The Road" with Dorothy and the Scarecrow. LOL!

It's is my OPINION and it is also a FACT... You can't criticize one person for something, but give a pass to another person who did the EXACT same thing. That is a double standard.

But yes, we will agree to disagree.

 

[MJJ7777]

Janet in my opinion has been the realest Jackson of them all.. She wanted to succeed as an artist on her own and not just because of her name. She did not use Michaels name to push herself to success.. Infact she hesitated to do scream specifically because of it but Michael convinced her and she felt it was good to be there for him..

She does not talk about the family too much, she talks about her own career.. YES being a Jackson will put her in the position to talk about them, but she does not over do it at all. Sometimes I've felt not enough.

Anyways, I respect Janet for the artist she is and how she made herself into sucess. She seems to be a sweet and fun person. While I do not agree with everything she has done or does (which I don't for ANYONE even my mother and brother) she is wonderful.

It's easy to judge sitting behind a computer pointing fingers... I'd love to see how much hate some of these people would get if they were in the spotlight and scrutinized for everything they do and say..

Not too happy with Janet or Tom gracing Leno with their presence but what you said here is very true. I bashed Janet before for appearing on Leno and although I have much respect and appreciation for Tom, I'll put Tom in the same category as Janet , there's no excuse for one over the other, Fact is both of them knew what he did and said about MJ and they both decided to sit with Leno and carry on a normal conversation as if nothing happened.

 

[AngieJ]

First of all, T-Mez is not family. Secondly, T-Mez was not there to promote anything aside from his DEFENSE of Michael Jackson. As a matter of fact, anytime we saw T-Mez during that time period, his sole purpose was (and still is) to DEFEND Michael Jackson.

I actually applaud T-Mez for going into the "Lion's Den" with the SOLE purpose of defending his client and friend, Michael Jackson.

Well said.

 

[twinklEE]

it's not like there is any point in stating the truth.

 

[jaydom7]

First of all, T-Mez is not family. Secondly, T-Mez was not there to promote anything aside from his DEFENSE of Michael Jackson. As a matter of fact, anytime we saw T-Mez during that time period, his sole purpose was (and still is) to DEFEND Michael Jackson.

I actually applaud T-Mez for going into the "Lion's Den" with the SOLE purpose of defending his client and friend, Michael Jackson.

P.S. As the CONSUMER, which I am, I don't need to separate anything (no offense). I either like or dislike your product. And I'm not speaking about Janet Jackson, I speaking generally.

Big Apple exactly!

T-Mez was MJ's attorney and he went on Leno to continue to defend his client, which was awesome. Janet is family and she went on Leno knowing the trash that Leno said about her brother, to promote herself and her diet food. There is a difference. T-Mez has been more supportive and respectful of MJ than Mike's own family in my opinion. T-Mez spent about 3 years total defending MJ and he never called him a drug addict or said anything about his alleged issues. But Janet who has publicly stated she was not close to Mike anymore and could go years without seeing him, had the audacity to call her brother an addict on Oprah and Robin Roberts and threw him under the bus knowing that MJ was killed. I will never respect her anymore after that.

 

[bluetopez]

And as I said before, Janet is usually not on those show to talk about Mike, but to promote projects concerning her own career as she's a superstar in her own right. The focus would be on topics relating to Michael's life and NOT the projects she's trying to promote...the reason she's on the show

LIKE I SAID she should have atleast occasionally spoke up on his behalf because she do at times did get asked about MJ or she bring him up herself, what better timing then to set the record straight about ur fam! So agree to disagree!

Fact is both of them knew what he did and said about MJ and they both decided to sit with Leno and carry on a normal conversation as if nothing happened

What? U call T-Mez defending MJ sitting there as acting like nothing happened? lol WOW!
T-Mez humanized and defended MJ which was the perfect way to counter attack what Jay Leno did all those months.

 

[MJJ7777]

LIKE I SAID she should have atleast occasionally spoke up on his behalf because she do at times did get asked about MJ or she bring him up herself, what better timing then to set the record straight about ur fam! So agree to disagree!


. What? U call T-Mez defending MJ sitting there as acting like nothing happened? lol WOW!
T-Mez humanized and defended MJ which was the perfect way to counter attack what Jay Leno did all those months.

That's what Tom is best known around the world for of course that is what he would discuss. I have not watched Janet's interview on leno nor have I watched Tom's but if the crime is that out of all late night talk shows someone other than Leno could have been chosen, I'd have to say they are both guilty. I'm not defending either party but if I bashed Janet about the same thing a few years ago and now I see Tom who witnessed Leno's tricks firsthand then I won't lie to myself. I respect Tom, I just don't respect this choice same goes for Janet.

But who knows if they, both Tom and Janet, actually don't know that Leno made meanspirited jabs at Michael as much as we do. One thing we forget is that as fans we are more aware of people that bash MJ or who have done him wrong because we study his life to the detail but to his friends and family he's just Michael so they might not keep up with who's making jokes and when, if this is the case then both Tom and Janet are not really in the wrong. I mean I would think they have more pressing issues to deal with in their professional and busy lives than to keep track of who's a "hater" and who's not. We could be wrong and they could be completely oblivious to Leno's agenda and/ or stance when it comes to Michael.

If they are completely aware of Leno's stance and still decided to grace him with their presence well then Kudos to them for having the heart to chat and look into the eyes of a man who wouldn't defend what's right when he had the opportunity to especially when the life of a friend/client and brother was on the verge of being completely ruined. I wouldn't in a million years have the heart to speak to someone like Leno. I don't care about the situation, he doesn't deserve it. He had the power to do something good back then and he chose not to and now its too late. He will forever be part of the one million reasons as to why Michael isn't here today in my book.

 

[Memefan]

With the exceptions of a few times, she's usually not on those show to talk about Mike, but to promote projects concerning her own career. Remember she's a superstar in her own right. Unless she's specifically agreed to it (for instance her first interviews after Mike passed) it takes the focus completely off why she's on the program, which is to promote whichever project she has at that given moment

There are PLENTY of places T-Mez could have went besides Leno's show, which was the point made earlier in connection with Janet. Which bring me back to my original point, if T-mez, Janet, and/or the rest of the family excluded doing interviews with people that ridiculed Mike, there would be NO ONE for them to speak with. You can't have it both ways.

What a ridiculous argument. Are you really serious....? comparing T Mez' appearance after the trial to this?


If you don't GRASP/UNDERSTAND why T Mez' appearance on Leno is different from Janet's..... **Exits thread**

 

[suzynyc]

Is Janet gonna be on Letterman soon?

 

[jaydom7]

Is Janet gonna be on Letterman soon?

I wouldn't be shocked. She might even allow Bashir to interview her about her weight loss program-_-

 

[8701girl]

She might even allow Bashir to interview her about her weight loss program-_-

If she ever does do a interview with him i will be so mad at her

 

[That Other Fan]

What a ridiculous argument. Are you really serious....? comparing T Mez' appearance after the trial to this?


If you don't GRASP/UNDERSTAND why T Mez' appearance on Leno is different from Janet's..... **Exits thread**

If you TRULY think I was comparing T-mez appearance on Leno's to Janet...and/or don't understand WHY I was mentioned them both, then the point I was trying to make has COMPLETELY flown over your head. lol

 

[That Other Fan]

LIKE I SAID she should have atleast occasionally spoke up on his behalf because she do at times did get asked about MJ or she bring him up herself, what better timing then to set the record straight about ur fam! So agree to disagree!

She's on the show to promote HER career and HER ventures.... Hence her being on the program from the start.

 

[That Other Fan]

Big Apple exactly!

T-Mez was MJ's attorney and he went on Leno to continue to defend his client, which was awesome. Janet is family and she went on Leno knowing the trash that Leno said about her brother, to promote herself and her diet food. There is a difference.

No, Big Apple said Janet shouldn't have done the show AT ALL since she knew of how Leno behaved on the stand. He/She said Janet should have AVOIDED the show all together for that reason ALONE.

I said well if that is the case the same argument can be made that T-mez should have NEVER did the show no matter what the reason for his appearance. He represented Mike. It was HE who dealt with Leno on the stand.... T-mez knows the ins and outs of the case better than anyone, if anyone should be OUTRAGE by Leno's supposed behavior on stand, it should be T-mez.

Hence, me saying if it is UNFORGIVABLE that Janet went on Leno's show because of his behavior on stand (for that reason ALONE...not even getting into why EITHER appeared on the show). It should be just as UNFORGIVEABLE that T-mez appeared on Leno's show for ANY REASON.

Therefore me saying...you can't have it both ways.

You cannot criticize someone for something, but at the same time giving a pass to someone else for the same thing. THAT is a double standard.

 

[AngieJ]

Is Janet gonna be on Letterman soon?

Honestly, if she went on Letterman I wouldn't think anything of it. It's people like him, I could buy the "You can't avoid everyone who spoke badly about MJ" argument. Unlike Leno, Letterman going after MJ never seemed as personal. Even haters notice Leno's obvious hard on for MJ.

 

[bluetopez]

She's on the show to promote HER career and HER ventures.... Hence her being on the program from the start.

Lord for the last time I'll say it again. I am talking about when she IS asked about him or when SHE brings MJ up herself on these shows that's when it's a good time to set the record straight. No if ands or butts about it and I can care less what show it is done on as long as it's done! So moving on!

 

[That Other Fan]

Lord for the last time I'll say it again. I am talking about when she IS asked about him or when SHE brings MJ up herself on these shows that's when it's a good time to set the record straight. No if ands or butts about it and I can care less what show it is done on as long as it's done! So moving on!

If she gives another indepth interview in which she talks about Mike, yes.... Which wasn't the situation here and/or why she was on the program. Yes, moving on...

 

[Ashtanga]

*big sigh*

 

[bluetopez]

If she gives another indepth interview in which she talks about Mike, yes.... Which wasn't the situation here and/or why she was on the program. Yes, moving on...

It don't have to be an indepth interview to defend ur love one. Now u just making up excuses! Pfff

 

[kindofdisco]

She looked absolutely gorgeous! You go Janet.

 

[ExoticPrincess]

Interesting....... would the same fans also defend Janet if she chose to be interviewed by Martin Bashir? would the same logic apply in that instance?

 

[8701girl]

Interesting....... would the same fans also defend Janet if she chose to be interviewed by Martin Bashir? would the same logic apply in that instance?

Id be so angry if she chose to do an interview with him

 

[jaydom7]

Interesting....... would the same fans also defend Janet if she chose to be interviewed by Martin Bashir? would the same logic apply in that instance?

they probably would.. Leno was just as bad as Bashir and she tell went on his show and kissed his butt

 

[raz2911]

Bashit is much worse than Leno, as a fan of Janet I would undoubtably lose respect for her, and doubt I could be a fan anymore. But I don't think she would ever go there, I don't even think the other Jacksons would dare to go that low.

 

[The Brown Gangsta]

Bashit is much worse than Leno, as a fan of Janet I would undoubtably lose respect for her, and doubt I could be a fan anymore. But I don't think she would ever go there, I don't even think the other Jacksons would dare to go that low.

They'll go as low as they need to go to pick the change up from the ground, they've proven that time and again.

 

[qbee]

they probably would.. Leno was just as bad as Bashir and she tell went on his show and kissed his butt

Leno is not as bad as Bashir by any means. NOt even close. Leno told unseemly jokes about MJ which I dont condone. But his Jokes didnt cause MJ to be investigated by authorites for a crime and his testimony in court didnt cause any harm either. He didnt give any praise to the Arvizo's _ Bashir is in a league of his own. I dont see any Jackson Appearing with him bar Latoya .. (she has already done worse) COUGH .. Victor M. Gutierrez show in Chlie

I would say Leno kissed Janet's Butt. He needed her to help his ratings. His show is nothign without celebrity

Show biz is a different world .. You go where the masses can see you to get your message out.
You dont have to support or like them when you do this - It all business nothign else

I would also say it was probably in her contract for the weight program or her book publisher that she goes on Top rated programs and they set up the interviews. Just like people who write books release movies or Music - You have a contract with your publisher and they set up the interviews for you to promote it. It has nothign to do with Their personal opinion of who is interviewing them. If you want to be successful you need to be seen by the masses. You play the game to YOUR advantage - You dont have to Like or support anyone to do that. MJ fans USED TMZ and other media who hasnt been especially kind to Michael to let their voices be heard. It doesnt mean they respect or support them. They USED them for their own means.

I think Janet is very smart - to use whatever media outlet she can to her advantage and her appearance on Jay Leno didnt exploit or hurt MJ in any way. His name was not even mentioned .. Her appearance is no crime and doesnt need to cause all the DRAMA everyone is trying to make this out to be.

 

[Ashtanga]

Leno is not as bad as Bashir by any means.

Yes, and still not make it less worse than the other. Both are bad. uke:

 

[kindofdisco]

Martin Bashir is a manipulator. His style of interviewing is extremely different from your run-of-the-mill late night talk show host stuff. He's nowhere near the same ballpark as Leno, I think we all know that LOL! And I seriously doubt Janet would do an interview with Bashir after what happened with Michael. So that "what if" that someone posted is redundant and I think just trying to stir up fights as usual.

*yawn*

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

If we mocked people on this forum we'd be banned. So what's funny about it when Jay Leno mocks people. He would have been banned long ago on this forum.

Last time I checked Jay Leno mocked MJ when he got out of hospital in pyjamas and when he was fighting for his life against the Avrizos. There's nothing funny about it, yet Jay Leno couldn't help it, could he? Do you all think Michael laughed at Jay Leno's jokes back then?

Now, Janet going to his show is just lowering herself to a chimp level of discussion, hypocrisy and total disrespect to her deceased brother who had been mocked by the very chimp Jay Leno. If she can get over it, I can't. Michael wasn't my brother, but he touched my soul.


Funny?

 

[jaydom7]

If we mocked people on this forum we'd be banned. So what's funny about it when Jay Leno mocks people. He would have been banned long ago on this forum.

Last time I checked Jay Leno mocked MJ when he got out of hospital in pyjamas and when he was fighting for his life against the Avrizos. There's nothing funny about it, yet Jay Leno couldn't help it, could he? Do you all think Michael laughed at Jay Leno's jokes back then?

Now, Janet going to his show is just lowering herself to a chimp level of discussion, hypocrisy and total disrespect to her deceased brother who had been mocked by the very chimp Jay Leno. If she can get over it, I can't. Michael wasn't my brother, but he touched my soul.


Funny?

Exactly and to see her sitting up there grinning and giggling with him like a cheshire cat is appalling.