FT article: Michael Jackson estate says accuser is trying to extract $213mn

Completely disagree.

I feel very strongly that this settlement, which went completely unreported for five years, could do more damage to MJ’s career than anything that has come before, LN included. The estate paying accusers into silence will invite more hate than any of the “he said, she said” nonsense we’ve been accustomed to at this point.
It's not a settlement, they didn't even make a accusation. They sold fake tracks, their relationship fell out and then they extorted them threatening to make false claims about Michael.
 
It's not a settlement, they didn't even make a accusation. They sold fake tracks, their relationship fell out and then they extorted them threatening to make false claims about Michael.
That's a good point. They never fully made allegations (as far as we're aware) it was just them threatening to. Which is why I'm pretty comfortable with the situation.

But also, we don't know the ins and outs of the case so I'll be curious to see what more we learn about it. I kinda suspect this was pre-emtive damage control by the estate, preparing for the possibility of that news going public from another source soon.
 
That's a good point. They never fully made allegations (as far as we're aware) it was just them threatening to. Which is why I'm pretty comfortable with the situation.

But also, we don't know the ins and outs of the case so I'll be curious to see what more we learn about it. I kinda suspect this was pre-emtive damage control by the estate, preparing for the possibility of that news going public from another source soon.
The fact that allegedly Branca made this public instead of the party itself makes me very comfortable.
 
Unfortunately, the Estate can't use the argument: "this is the same shady family that sold us fraudulent tracks sung by an imposter". Because they made several idiotic decisions before.. first when they bought them and released them, then when they defended them in court and finally when they defended them after they settled.
 
Unfortunately, the Estate can't use the argument: "this is the same shady family that sold us fraudulent tracks sung by an imposter". Because they made several idiotic decisions before.. first when they bought them and released them, then when they defended them in court and finally when they defended them after they settled.
As long as Branca succeeds in the confidentiality thing he's taking legal action for, we can rest easy for awhile. As long as the biopic gets a free rollout, it does not matter what follows
 
stacy brown is the source behind this article. All the quotes form branca come form him.

He might have made it all up. The interview he linked to in the article to the supposed video of him interviewing Branca is just a video of himself talking. Branca isn't in it all all.

He's done it before with jermaine and claiming he wrote a book with him. People still attribute the quote to Jermaine till this day.
 
stacy brown is the source behind this article. All the quotes form branca come form him.

He might have made it all up. The interview he linked to in the article to the supposed video of him interviewing Branca is just a video of himself talking. Branca isn't in it all all.

He's done it before with jermaine and claiming he wrote a book with him. People still attribute the quote to Jermaine till this day.
This is very believable, unfortunately we can only wait and see
 
As long as Branca succeeds in the confidentiality thing he's taking legal action for, we can rest easy for awhile. As long as the biopic gets a free rollout, it does not matter what follows
I don't understand this at all. If they signed the deal why did Branca go public with it? Basically Branca broke the deal here. If the deal said that nobody can talk about the deal and that the deal itself doesn't exist, he's the one who broke it. I understand that they came for more money, but he could have just said to them - remember the deal and fuck off. The only logical explanation would be if they told him, ok.. we know about the deal and we are going to break it anyway, we will talk about everything. And then he went to the media first. But that would mean that they still plan to break the deal themselves and talk. I'm positive they will be the stars of LN 3 and 4. What can happen to them? Estate can sue them. They sue the Estate like Wade and James. The lawsuits would last for decades, they would appeal indefinitely, media would defend them and be on their side and hbo and various CSA organizations would finance everything (including the penalties for breaching the contract with the Estate) like they are doing for Wade and James. A movie like LN 3 and 4 can generate more than enough profit for them to pay the penalty for breaching the contract. And they will for sure argue that Branca broke it first, which he unfortunately did.
 
Branca has reported an extortion attempt - he has not breached anything in the contract - if anything it is the famous five over here who couldn’t abide by the agreement and now wants a bigger piece ( and I mean huuuuuuge ) piece of the pie!
 

This?


 
Branca has reported an extortion attempt - he has not breached anything in the contract - if anything it is the famous five over here who couldn’t abide by the agreement and now wants a bigger piece ( and I mean huuuuuuge ) piece of the pie!
“The agreement contained a clause that stated neither party can disclose its existence to any third party,”

Its existence. Not content of it. Branca told the media about its existence.
 
btw, the family I think they are aware of this settlement.. and Taj Jackson is claiming the honor of his uncle by making a "movie".. it's a joke actually
 
btw, the family I think they are aware of this settlement.. and Taj Jackson is claiming the honor of his uncle by making a "movie".. it's a joke actually

What has Taj got to do with any of this? He has ZERO say in what the estate does in any form or shape! And I doubt the estate has told anyone about this deal outside the inner circle as it would jeopardize the whole thing!
 
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@Hiker Why has this thread been moved to the trials & tribulations section immediately when its breaking Michael Jackson news? I am sure we have lots of members with knowledge about the cases that has no idea this is happening and since the thread was moved to the "trials & tribulations" section all activity ceased immediately.

What is the problem with having it on the main Michael Jackson forum? The people on that forum that dont want to read it can just choose to not click on the thread.

I agree that an own section for discussing old allegations is a good idea, but for breaking news I dont understand it at all.

Michael Jackson News And Discussion - sounds like a forum where you would be allowed to put breaking news about the Michael Jackson Estate?
 
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Personally, I think Trials & Tribulations is the best place for this thread. I think @Hiker made a good call. Just imo.
If it has been put there immediately it would probably have 10 replies and consists of one page. Why do you think its good if nobody sees and engages with this thread? I would argue this topic is more important for Michael Jacksons legacy than discussion his makeup at a certain performance in april 1985 just to make an example.

How would it hurt to have people engaging and seeing that this news exists while simultaneously discussing other topics in the same forum?
 
Michael Jackson News And Discussion


If it has been put there immediately it would probably have 10 replies and consists of one page. Why do you think its good if nobody sees and engages with this thread?
Oh, I just think anything to do with legal stuff naturally sits in the T&T section. I hadn't noticed if the traffic had slowed down. Maybe it's slowed down naturally? Until we get more info or some confirmation about any part of this story maybe this just represents a natural pause?
 
@Hiker Why has this thread been moved to the trials & tribulations section immediately when its breaking Michael Jackson news? I am sure we have lots of members with knowledge about the cases that has no idea this is happening and since the thread was moved to the "trials & tribulations" section all activity ceased immediately.

What is the problem with having it on the main Michael Jackson forum? The people on that forum that dont want to read it can just choose to not click on the thread.

I agree that an own section for discussing old allegations is a good idea, but for breaking news I dont understand it at all.

Michael Jackson News And Discussion - sounds like a forum where you would be allowed to put breaking news about the Michael Jackson Estate?
IMO this forum is all over the place anyway. First two threads in Trials and Tribulations right now... "Blanket looks like his dad" and "the great album debate!
 
I don’t believe that MJs estate’s behaviour reflects on MJ really.

Especially when this is now an actual extortion case.
On the bright side, years ago there was some celebrity hack lawyer who was always going after trump who went to jail for trying to extort Nike.

So maybe we will finally see one of these people get put behind bars for targeting Michael.



On March 25, 2019, Avenatti was arrested in New York City, and federal prosecutors in the Southern District of New York announced that they were charging Avenatti with attempting to extort up to $25 million from U.S. athletic apparel and shoe company Nike by threatening to make damaging charges against the company.[110][111] Avenatti allegedly claimed that Nike improperly made payments to families of high school basketball players.[112] The arrest came about 15 minutes after Avenatti announced he would be holding a press conference the next day, at which he claimed he would reveal information about a high school and college basketball scandal involving Nike.[74]
During the afternoon of March 25, Avenatti and an unnamed co-conspirator were scheduled to meet with lawyers from Nike, at which prosecutors allege he would have offered to cancel the press conference in exchange for payment.[74] Avenatti's suspected co-conspirator was identified as Mark Geragos.[111] Avenatti was released on a $300,000 bond that evening.[113]

On February 14, 2020, Avenatti was found guilty on all three counts related to the attempted extortion of Nike.[114] He faced potentially more than 40 years in prison.[2][8] On July 8, 2021, Judge Paul G. Gardephe sentenced him to 30 months in prison.[9]


Case sounds pretty similar to what the Cascios are doing. Lets all hope and pray the feds get a hold of this and they get convicted.

I so wish Wade and James went to Jail too, but this may be the best we get in terms of justice for Michael.
 
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is this BS to sabotage the biopic?
and all this being put out to the public days after Tito’s passing. Are you serious?!?! Lord knows how livid i am right now. i hope these new allegations are a hoax or something. or atleast i hope it’ll F off and go away. that damn money hungry Ca$cio family (if it is them).

i know those rotten a$$ hating mother suckers on that r/leavingneverlandhbo subreddit on reddit is having a field day with this one.

when will they get him rest, he is INNOCENT!
 
“The agreement contained a clause that stated neither party can disclose its existence to any third party,”

Its existence. Not content of it. Branca told the media about its existence.
HE REPORTED TO AUTHORITIES.

You can not legally prevent someone from reporting a crime to the authorities.

Please learn how the law works people.
 
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