[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Well if it does go to trial they are gonna end up looking like fools cuz the mj estate could get tmez on their side and he will cross exmaine their ass so hard they wont be able to handle it!! ?


And i do hope the estate do get tmez cuz it will help alot

I absolutely do not believe that Estate aka lawers/administrators want T-Mez to be the defense attorney, but they should ask him for help definitely
 
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From the legend that is TSCM.all you guys who twitter etc help spread this around

Excellent Rebuttal Video

The best, most energetic and factual rebuttal to this nonsense has come via a 36 minute video from The Rageaholic. Excellent and well worth the watch (contains NSFW language). He starts with the child porn debunk and then proceeds to focus the majority of the video on the Chandler/Arvizo allegations. This is the video that should be plastered all over the place to all these media freaks.

https://youtu.be/6pnoQqlygQs

Really good stuff.

This was posted by someone on NeoGAF as well, the forum i talked about earlier where someone posted the ridiculous crap from Radar Online and people there all believed it, except for a few people. But it's quite telling that this new thread only has two pages while the bullshit thread last week had many pages within a few minutes. It's also quite sad how there are STILL people in that thread that say crap like ''But he made Thriller man, Thriller.'' or nonsense that MJ defenders never cease to amaze them and what not....completely ignoring the fact that the defenders actually do know wtf they are talking about. Another person said the video would be doing a pretty lousy job if it was proving him to be guilty..in other words..for some people it will never be good enough.

Another guy said he thought the video was really good but at the same time thought it was damn strange how someone like Wade Robson who totally defended MJ would now come with these allegations. I don't really have an answer to that, other than being a attention whore and money probably, right?
 
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Wondering 2 things

1. If this latest scandal is the work of these people, splashed through the NZ herald again today

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11664334

Basically the story says that Michael was grooming his nephews and even Blanket Jackson for abuse, it is sickening and I wish it would go away.

2. If this is posted in the right place, the Herald does not even give a source, So not usre i its mail, radar or the dreaded TMZ. If it wrong place, I apologise, not meant to be malicious, but know it should not be in Michael Mania section. Oh its New York Post - Is that a gossip newspaper? The artcile is short and basically says "After child pornography was found at Neverland", even though it was not child pornography.

These disgustingly dirty bitches dare to use Blankets name and embroil him into their filthy bs stories....

I think, MJ Estate lawyers should take some actiin against this on the behalf of Prince Michael II.
Enough is enough
 
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Another guy said he thought the video was really good but at the same time thought it was damn strange how someone like Wade Robson who totally defended MJ would now come with these allegations. I don't really have an answer to that, other than being a attention whore and money probably, right?

He is suing for money.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

He is suing for money.


I haven't been following the case much, but why this turnaround? Did he lose his job or something? Money problems? According to people on NeoGAF Wade was already famous and made a lot of money with his dancing and choreography with super stars. Coming out/against MJ has hurt his career they say.

Now i get comments from people saying that even though based on nothing but circumstantial evidence they probably believe he was guilty. They fail to understand how so many can be so convinced that he was innocent or spend so much time trying to prove to others that he was. That the guy's boundaries were already messed up because of the sleepovers with children, so how big of a jump is that really to being a child molestor....is what they wonder.

I can't believe the logic of some people.
 
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I haven't been following the case much, but why this turnaround? Did he lose his job or something? Money problems? According to people on NeoGAF Wade was already famous and made a lot of money with his dancing and choreography with super stars. Coming out/against MJ has hurt his career they say.

His career has been on the decline way before he made up his lies about MJ because he has some sort of mental illness. It seems genetical (his father was bipolar, his cousin on his father's side depressed - both committed suicide). This mental illness apparently has made him erratic in his job and he was pulling out of projects left and right. It also seems he just does not feel like working any more, he just wants a comfortable early retirement in Hawaii. But of course, you need money for that.

Now i get comments from people saying that even though based on nothing but circumstantial evidence they probably believe he was guilty. They fail to understand how so many can be so convinced that he was innocent or spend so much time trying to prove to others that he was. That the guy's boundaries were already messed up because of the sleepovers with children, so how big of a jump is that really to being a child molestor....is what they wonder.

They probably do not know anything substantial about the cases. People like to have an opinion without informing themselves.
 
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Just wondering what interests are behind all that trash and by who .It seems that everything is made to hurt his fans even more than his family,pretending that he fall into oblivion and banished from our hearts.Who could be benefit from it.I think that's the key, but I have no answers.
 
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this story has too many legs to stand on.. It's much harder to ignore for me than others
 
KOPV;4154080 said:
this story has too many legs to stand on.. It's much harder to ignore for me than others

Are you having doubts? :/
If so, this should help.

From Vanityfair

"Update (June 21, 10:10 A.M.): A representative from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Department gave Vanity Fair the following statement regarding the documents:

Some of the documents appear to be copies of reports that were authored by Sheriff’s Office personnel as well as evidentiary photographs taken by Sheriff’s Office personnel interspersed with content that appears to be obtained off the Internet or through unknown sources. The Sheriff’s Office did not release any of the documents and/or photographs to the media. The Sheriff’s Office released all of its reports and the photographs as part of the required discovery process to the prosecution and the defense."



This whole thing is based on NEW information coming out, and as you can see it's been debunked that any new information was actually released, heck whoever made this mess up even added in some random pics from the internet, so the story is a lie.

If you need more reassurance read some of the previous pages in this thread.
 
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Yep because it all lies.
 
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His career has been on the decline way before he made up his lies about MJ because he has some sort of mental illness. It seems genetical (his father was bipolar, his cousin on his father's side depressed - both committed suicide). This mental illness apparently has made him erratic in his job and he was pulling out of projects left and right. It also seems he just does not feel like working any more, he just wants a comfortable early retirement in Hawaii. But of course, you need money for that.



They probably do not know anything substantial about the cases. People like to have an opinion without informing themselves.

Ok thanks for the information.

Good lord, it just never ceazes to amaze me how bad people just want him to be guilty and you have to wonder what he ever did to those people.....sigh. People calling him effed up in the head so much to the point that the jump to being a child molester really isn't that big. I cannot believe what i am reading. We should all realize that there will always be those kind of people that just will ignore anything you say...have completely made up their mind and it's all based on tabloids or nothing at all really. Just unbelieveable how far people are willing to go to totally crucify this man....it's beyond sickening really. And then you still got people who don't understand why his fand and also non fans defend him so much and get angry at these idiots.
 
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Wade suddenly remembered when he didnt get the job for the vegas tribute shows.

Why have doubts now if u were around in 05. Theres nothing new now that wasnt said then
 
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To be honest I doubt understand how anyone who followed the trial in 05 and with all the available information can say because of this story I have doubts.
 
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Totally agree.
 
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Oh man, exactly as i had expected. Now they start calling me creepy because i've been defending MJ so much in two threads now, liking his music is one thing but this apparently is ridiculous. I guess we all in here are creepy then, absolutely ridiculous, lol.

I explained the stuff about Wade Robson, that he was bipolar and everything else and it's exactly that piece of information they have doubts about. They want a source and not just some second hand stuff from another forum. Rich really...coming from folks who parrot the tabloids all the way. Just to shut the fella up, do you have a link for me?
 
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Off topic but just to cheer everyone up Naomi's MJ tribute got tons of likes 68K and 600 comments
with only 12 morons

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Even the MJ thread on prince.org has been shut down to hijacking by at least 3 trolls peddling the usual paedophile nonsense and all of us trying to defend Michael from it. Most of these trolls are ultra masculine "Marquise Johnson" types who refer to women as hoes and listen to thug rap all the time.
 
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To the peson who wrote tmez wouldnt be good idea to use for wade trial umm i hate to say this but he may the one hig key and put a stop to this nonesense if it goes to trial . Considering he was involved in the 2005 trial he knows what on behind the scenes. ..sorry but just @ he estate wont cut it. They are doing a lousy ass job in defending mj with all this crap at the moment and they need to step up their game
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4154110 said:
Oh man, exactly as i had expected. Now they start calling me creepy because i've been defending MJ so much in two threads now, liking his music is one thing but this apparently is ridiculous. I guess we all in here are creepy then, absolutely ridiculous, lol.

I explained the stuff about Wade Robson, that he was bipolar and everything else and it's exactly that piece of information they have doubts about. They want a source and not just some second hand stuff from another forum. Rich really...coming from folks who parrot the tabloids all the way. Just to shut the fella up, do you have a link for me?

That his father was bipolar is in his own lawsuit.

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He hang himself in 2002.

It's also in his own lawsuit that he had two nervous breakdowns before he made his allegations, making him drop out of jobs and unable to work. He is trying to blame it on childhood abuse now but the fact is his family has a history with mental illness. Not only his father was bipolar, but his cousin (who is also on his father's side) recently committed suicide because of severe depression. Robson posted about his suicide on his own FB.

Here is a timeline of what happened in his life that lead up to the allegations:

Some time in 2010 - Robson is approached about directing MJ Immortal for Cirque du Soleil which he turns down (no reason given)
Some time in 2010 - Jamie King is hired to direct MJ Immortal (article dated November 3, 2010: https://www.cirquedusoleil.com/en/press/news/2010/mj-presale.aspx)
November 2010 - Robson's son born
December 2010 - Robson is offered to direct to direct Step Up 4
April 2011 - He's out of the movie citing personal reasons

April-August 2011 - 1st nervous breakdown
Early 2011 - Charles Joron from Cirque "considers" giving him an offer about Immortal, but he tells him it needs to be validated by MJ Estate.
First quarter of 2011 - Robson meets with MJ Estate executor John Branca about Cirque plans.
May 16, 2011 - Starts cognitive therapy for about a month. Does not make allegations.
May 21, 2011 - Robson sends an e-mail to the MJ Estate telling them he wanted to do the Cirque show "badly".
Mid-July, 2011 - After his breakdown he returns to work with "former sense of invincibility" (his words in his lawsuit).
July 30, 2011 - Robson publicly announces he's gonna direct Cirque du Soleil's MJ show.
http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/11/wade-robson-michael-jackson-cirque-du-soleil-video/

This is odd, because it was not true. Jamie King was hired to do the job.
March, 2012 - 2nd nervous breakdown
Mid-April, 2012 - Starts insight-oriented therapy with another therapist.
May 8, 2012 - Makes allegations to his therapist, the first time ever.
September, 2012 - Sends e-mails to relatives and friends about a “transformational time” in his life.
March 2013 - Hires attorneys Gradstein and Marzano.
May 1, 2013 - Files complaint.

This timeline is complied out of court documents and the videos and articles that you see linked.

This information is also worth considering:

Wade Robson's Ill-fated Directing Career and the Allegations

"I spend most of my time saying no to jobs, probably to my own demise..." -Wade Robson, 2009

The year was 2008. Wade Robson was in the midst of choreographing several dance routines for Criss Angel's forthcoming Vegas show, BELIEVE. "It's going to be amazing. The dancers are ready." (BELIEVE was sharply criticized by attendees and the media in the weeks following its début.) At the same time, Wade was busy reprising his two-time Emmy award-winning role on So You Think You Can Dance, serving as a judge, choreographer and occasional performer. All seemed well.

Internally however, Wade was experiencing a riveting career crisis. Despite being a successful dancer and choreographer, it had been Wade's lifelong aspiration to become a respected film director; a desire strengthened by his wife Amanda who had expressed similar desires in writing and film. "I became interested in film directing, really young, like eight or nine. I was interested in behind the scenes. I wanted to be the one who created it," Wade explained in an April 2009 issue of Dance Informa.

From the mid-2000s onward, Wade and his wife Amanda began putting their ideas on paper. Wade directed and starred in several high-octane commercials, including a couple promoting his own line of shoes distributed by gendance. In addition, Wade directed and choreographed two music videos, one featuring AJ McLean ("Teenage Wildlife") and another featuring two dancers from the BELIEVE show ("Burning Room").
Wade and Amanda successfully produced two other short films. One, a 17-minute film known as I? (pronounced 'I Question Mark'), revolves around a child dancer who becomes paralysed after an vehicle accident. I? was quietly screened at various film festivals to a sparse audience; the music track Wade produced for it was later included on his Dance ***** compilation disc and received greater appreciation. This was Wade's most extensive directorial release.

The second short film, WITHIN, was filmed and quietly released on Wade Robson's website in 2007. Starring Aminah Abdul Jillil, the film features a pulsating soundtrack and an elemental blend of chaos and relaxation. Both Wade and Amanda share credits for devising the concept, with Wade acting as the director and Amanda the writer. Of particular note, over half of this film contains footage shot at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch, February 2007, to portray a blissful and meditative environment. Wade and his wife stayed at one of Michael Jackson's guest cottages and thanked Michael Jackson in the end credits: "Wade & Amanda Robson would like to thank... MJ, for allowing us to use his sacred land. Grace, for making it happen."


Following in the footsteps of these short films, Wade and Amanda quickly escalated their efforts in the realm of film writing and directing, making the endeavour their utmost priority. Eventually, such ambition would culminate with the failed attempt at creating a feature length film and theatrical production, at the expense of Wade's professional career and many lost opportunities. "The focus is to really start this film work and there may be stage work, but it will be ours. We are writing a theatre show as well."

While Wade juggled multiple projects in 2008—notably Criss Angel's Cirque du Soleil show and So You Think You Can Dance—his wife was busy drafting their film's script at home. "We have been writing [the film] all through [2008] as well, but Amanda was mostly working on it because I was doing the Cirque show. So it was kind of really broken and hard to really focus on it." (Amanda had also dabbled into selling bouquets in a side business she called AmaLei Bouquets; a single page website was conceived and a domain name was purchased, but both were shortly lived.)

In early 2009, Wade foreshadowed the impending destruction of his choreographing career in an interview with Dance Informa: "We were supposed to do this Britney tour but it was just another distraction and we really want to move into film and really make this the next path for us... I spend most of my time saying no to jobs, probably to my own demise..." (Wade and Amanda were initially selected to direct Britney Spears' Circus tour, but were subsequently replaced). At this point, Wade and Amanda were determined to let nothing get in their way of their new passion in film.

In 2003, coinciding with Michael Jackson's birthday, Wade filed the legal work to establish an Encino-based motion picture company, "Light Tree Productions" (separate from Wade's "Wajero Entertainment" business he founded several years prior). The business establishment remained actively licensed but dormant. In early 2009, when Wade and Amanda decided to put all of their combined concentration into directing and writing, Wade reflected the change under his linkedIn profile by listing his current employment status as CEO and Film Director of Light Tree Productions.

In 2009, after more than a year of continual work on their conceptual film's script, Wade stated that it was his intent to start shooting the film later that year: "...it's five days a week, as soon as we wake up until the sun comes down. That's what we're doing all day, every day. We're just making a move to get this done." Apart from the sporadic tasks that Wade involved himself with from 2009 onward—including writing a touching tribute to Michael Jackson in Opus after he passed away and collaborating with Janet Jackson on a Michael Jackson tribute at the VMAs—Wade and Amanda's concentration remained steadfast on their planned film projects.

Months passed. The Robsons continued working behind-the-scenes on their first feature film and related self-projects, all the while admittedly turning away many potential opportunities that had come their way. Wade and his wife were replaced by Jamie King for Britney Spears' Circus tour. The untitled film that had consumed years of the Robsons' lives never materialized. The theatrical play that Wade mentioned in interviews likewise remained little more than a figment in the mind's eye.

In December 2010, still focused on his newfound filmmaking career path, Wade accepted a job to direct the fourth installment of a dance film series, Step Up Revolution. In April of 2011, Wade abruptly withdrew from the project citing "personal reasons." He was replaced by director Scott Speer. Three months later, during Pulse on Tour, Wade excitedly explained that he was anticipating working on a new Michael Jackson tribute show: "I'm starting on Cirque du Soleil Michael Jackson show... Which is exciting and terrifying all at the same time because it's such a huge responsibility. But that's why I took it on, because Mike was such a huge part of my career and life. we were friends for 20 years before he passed, since I was seven. So it's an opportunity for me to give back a little bit to his legacy..."

In the end, Wade was never part of either Cirque du Soleil production that paid homage to Michael Jackson. Instead, Jamie King was selected as the writer and director for both. (Wade Robson and Jamie King also share the same talent agency.)

With all of this knowledge now on the table, several connections can be made between Wade's flawed film endeavours and the civil lawsuit that he filed against Michael Jackson in May of 2013. In the complaint, Wade Robson accuses Michael Jackson of prophesying that Wade would "be a film director bigger than Steven Spielberg." As a result of that proclamation, Wade's attorney insists that "as far as Wade was concerned, his fate was written [by Michael Jackson in 1989]." At the same time, Michael Jackson provided additional inspirational words to Wade: "Study the greats and become greater. Be the best or nothing at all. Rule the world. Be in the history books. Immortalize yourself."

The suggestion that Wade and his wife altered their career paths to work on films, specifically as a result of the "prophecy" Michael Jackson made when Wade was six or seven years old, is echoed numerous times throughout the complaint. "In 2011, Wade was hired to direct his first theatrical motion picture, Step Up 4, a dance film with an approximate $30 million budget. It was the start of the culmination of everything he and Michael Jackson had hoped Wade would accomplish—Wade believed Michael Jackson's prophecy about him was coming true." In essence, this is equivalent to a young child reading a fortune cookie passage and adhering literally to it decades into the future, then blaming the fortune cookie's message for any failures or misfortunes that consequently result.

Wade's attorney goes on to explain that Wade dropped out of the big budget directing job "for reasons unknown to him at the time." Wade subsequently conducted months of counselling between a psychologist and psychotherapist—over the course of an entire year—before coming up with the notion that his career must have faltered as a result of alleged sexual abuse in conjunction with the failed prophecy from decades past. Again, Wade attributes his nervous breakdowns and career hiatus on "the result of a complete psychological collapse arising from the fulfilment of a 'prophecy' made by Michael Jackson to Wade Robson that Robson would one day direct films..."

What is not mentioned in the complaint is how Wade was ambitiously discussing plans to work on a Michael Jackson tribute show by Cirque du Soleil several months after dropping out of the big budget production (one could reasonably speculate that Wade may have dropped out of the Step Up film under the belief that he would instead be part of the Michael Jackson tribute tour that was being prepared at the same time). Furthermore, not once does the complaint so much as mention Wade and Amanda's other ill-conceived film and theatre plans that they both voluntarily invested endless hours and several years trying to create, or how both of them rejected other paid opportunities long before any alleged meltdowns, including working with Britney Spears.
Wade explained in past interviews that he always had a passion for directing and filmmaking, but when such filmmaking plans fell flat and other choreographers like Jamie King took his reign in the choreographing venue, the most sensible explanation in his mind was to cast blame on Michael Jackson for instilling an erroneous belief decades ago that Wade would become a bigger director than Steven Spielberg if he pursued film. So, rather than accepting his failures in the film industry and using such experiences to enhance his otherwise lucrative career, Wade put together a tall tale of claims, using alleged sexual molestation from decades past to mask the underlying "film prophecy" absurdness as the basis for his failed prospects.

While this is from a fan site (MJJR) that is not available since, but everything written in it is taken from either court docs (Robson indeed oddly blames a failed movie directing "prophecy" by MJ as one of the reasons his life went all wrong) and old interviews with Wade and Amanda. Point is, his career and health hasn't been all rosy and fine before he decided to make these allegations. And only months before he made his allegations he was desperate to direct Cirque du Soleil's MJ show. When it became clear he won't he made his allegations against MJ.
 
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There has been a video has been recently released on youtube of one of gavin arvuzo's ex friends at school telling the truth!!!
 
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Oh man, exactly as i had expected. Now they start calling me creepy because i've been defending MJ so much in two threads now, liking his music is one thing but this apparently is ridiculous. I guess we all in here are creepy then, absolutely ridiculous, lol.

I explained the stuff about Wade Robson, that he was bipolar and everything else and it's exactly that piece of information they have doubts about. They want a source and not just some second hand stuff from another forum. Rich really...coming from folks who parrot the tabloids all the way. Just to shut the fella up, do you have a link for me?

Wade's name or his case against the estate has not mentioned in any of the articles, so if you bring in Wade's name in to argument, some/most people will look at you like what are you talking about. Did you explain that he has teamed up with one of the worst gossip rag to spread manipulated untrue stories, in order either taint possible future jury members or force the estate to settlement? Then ask them what does it say of their case if they have to resort this kind of actions with media.
 
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So now are they gonna throw all the 20 years of tabloid dirt on him all over again? Isn't there something current to write about?

What other rehashed old stuff is there to print as MJ's birthday is in August, and I'm 100% sure another attack is planned for that date?
Wade's attorneys asked SB sheriff's documents but have they asked anything else?
 
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From the legend that is TSCM.all you guys who twitter etc help spread this around

Excellent Rebuttal Video

The best, most energetic and factual rebuttal to this nonsense has come via a 36 minute video from The Rageaholic. Excellent and well worth the watch (contains NSFW language). He starts with the child porn debunk and then proceeds to focus the majority of the video on the Chandler/Arvizo allegations. This is the video that should be plastered all over the place to all these media freaks.

https://youtu.be/6pnoQqlygQs


Some of the comments from people who still think Michael was guilty after that video is hilarious. Talk about grasping at straws
 
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Wade's name or his case against the estate has not mentioned in any of the articles, so if you bring in Wade's name in to argument, some/most people will look at you like what are you talking about. Did you explain that he has teamed up with one of the worst gossip rag to spread manipulated untrue stories, in order either taint possible future jury members or force the estate to settlement? Then ask them what does it say of their case if they have to resort this kind of actions with media.

Thanks people for all the information.

Some of the people on the other forum actually knew about Wade Robson, so it was a good moment to provide that information. It's just so crystal clear though how badly most of the people there are parrotting the tabloids. This person who brought up Robson said things like.... ''there's a body of hard accusations, you got admissions from MJ himself about sleepovers with boys, you got allegations from families, you got several out of court settlements, the fact that adult magazines were found all over the house while kids were there....accusations about how he gave alcohol to kids, then of course the doctored photos of animals heads on naked people's bodies, nude children...'' ------- and so on.

It's just so damn frustrating to hear such idiocy from people, they talk about all this as if these were facts as if they have been proven. But here we all know what lying scumbags the families were, we know there was only one out of court settlement and that Mike wanted that criminal trial to happen. We know that no magazines were found all over NL at all, in fact they were locked away. Alcohol to children? Never proven at all, it was the liars word against T-Mez's, and probably the worst of all...this idiot talked about the doctored photos as if these were found during the raid when it;s all Radar Online's dirty work. These people....these effin' people.

I have posted everything i just said there as well, to show these people how the tabloids have messed with their mind but it's already crystal clear that a lot of people just don't care. They don't care for the truth and even if the accusers were to come forward and admit to their lies, hell even if we had 24/7 of MJ during the timeline of all that, there would still be those numbskulls who say that he probably did touch other children then. There's even people saying he probably wasn't a good person. I will never understand that way of thinking.

Giving a crapload of money to charities, really showing your good intentions is not a sign of a good person but a bad person? Sorry to say this, but i hate those folks....i never ever want to have anything to do with those folks neither. It's just a goddamn shame how these tabloids are allowed to do pretty much anything. I have a few people i know that are friends of my family and a few of them read that crap. They then come to my birthday or just visit my family and i get to hear their misinformed nonsense. They talk about the crap that these tabloids make up themselves as if they are facts. So damn frustrating.
 
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Some ppl will believe anything no matter what. U cant reason with stupidity. The question has to be asked as to why ppl are so desperate for someone to be a abuse victim regardless of the facts.they would rather a child be a victim than that weirdo be innocent. U cant reason with that.
 
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Some ppl will believe anything no matter what. U cant reason with stupidity. The question has to be asked as to why ppl are so desperate for someone to be a abuse victim regardless of the facts.they would rather a child be a victim than that weirdo be innocent. U cant reason with that.

Very well said!
 
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Nothing is going to change unless some reporter grows a balls and tackle the lies Radar, Mirror and Dali Fail created. Unfortunately it is not going to happen as why would any reported would expose their tactics because no media outlet have clean hands in this issue and they are not going to dirty their own nest even though they literally speaking ,slept with dogs and woke up with fleas.

MJJJusticeProject
?@MJJJusticePrjct
How may we assist you? We NEED #Media to copy/paste the TRUTH as fast as they do the LIE about #MichaelJackson @JonathanHobin

Jonathan Hobin ?@JonathanHobin Jun 27 Ottawa, Ontario
@MJJJusticePrjct Nope! I was certain that all the retweets would have peeked some interest.

Jonathan Hobin ?@JonathanHobin 3h3 hours ago Ottawa, Ontario
Jonathan Hobin Retweeted MJJJusticeProject
More tha a 1000 tweets and the media are not listening.

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Ps, I didn't realise that Alan Duke has left Radar? The only sensible thing to do if you work in a flea infested hellhole:D
 
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No PinkDiamond - no doubts here... When I say this story has too many legs to stand on.. I mean it as in it's getting picked up and moved around quickly and grew quick... Like an 8 legged evil creature
 
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Nothing is going to change unless some reporter grows a balls and tackle the lies Radar, Mirror and Dali Fail created. Unfortunately it is not going to happen as why would any reported would expose their tactics because no media outlet have clean hands in this issue and they are not going to dirty their own nest even though they literally speaking ,slept with dogs and woke up with fleas.

Plus, sensationalist articles sell better, generate more clicks etc. So why would they shoot themselves in the foot and start doing some real journalism when crap sells more?

Ps, I didn't realise that Alan Duke has left Radar?

Did he? I didn't know that.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Just because you did not get the job Wade does not give you the right to makeup stories that you was abuse by Michael when you claim in 2005 that Michael never did anything too you. I agree with this it was mention in a post grasping at straws and that is exactly what Wade and James and they lawyers are doing now because they have no proof end of story.


Good for Alan if he did leave Radar.
 
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