9 Q. Now, when you first saw the suitcase, where
10 was it in that room.
11 A. It was next to -- it was to the left of that
12 couch thing.
13 Q. And did you ever see Mr. Jackson pick up the
14 Exhibit 470.
15 A. Yeah, like I was hanging out with him in
16 there, and he was like putting on his makeup or
17 something, I don’t know. And then he -- he grabbed
18 the -- grabbed the suitcase, and then he told me --
19 he told me it was Frank’s. And he showed me, he was
20 like, “This is” --
21 Q. Okay. Well, what did he show you.
22 A. He was, like, “Look at the” -- “Look at this
23 stuff. Frank’s stinking a-s-s.” Frank’s
24 stinking -- it was S- -- Frank’s stinking ass.
25 Q. All right. What was inside the suitcase.
26 A. Adult materials.
27 Q. And how many did you look at with Mr.
28 Jackson. 1643
1 A. Well, he showed me just one -- like he
2 showed me, and there was this girl in there and then
3 he put it away.
4 Q. And how was the girl.
5 A. She had her legs spread open, and her vagina
6 was, like, showing.
7 Q. All right. Did you ever see that suitcase
8 again.
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. Where.
11 A. We had it -- like, we had it up in his --
12 near his bed, and then we were looking at all the
13 stuff.
14 Q. Who was “we”.
15 A. Me, my brother and Michael.
16 Q. And do you recall, where in the bedroom was
17 the suitcase when you first saw it that time.
18 A. The first time I saw it, it was in the rest
19 room kind of thing. And then the second time we --
20 I don’t know if we brought it up there or, like,
21 Michael brought it up there or something. I don’t
22 know. But it was up next to his bed. And we were
23 all going through the thing and we were making fun
24 of Frank.
25 Q. Did you look at the magazines.
26 A. Yes.
27 Q. How many magazines do you think you saw.
28 A. We saw, like, practically everything, but 1644
1 there was a few we didn’t look at.
2 Q. How much time do you figure you were looking
3 at all those things.
4 A. 30 minutes to an hour, probably.
5 Q. Did Mr. Jackson make any comments during the
6 time -- other than the ones you’ve talked about, any
7 other comments that he made at any of the
8 photographs or the magazines.
9 A. Not really. We just were, like, making fun
10 of Frank.
