[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

much to your chagrin lol
And she wonders why I wrote she never missed an opportunity to imply that the executors were behind the lawsuits to keep the estate in probate.
 
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And she wonders why I wrote she never missed an opportunity to imply that the executors were behind the lawsuits to keep the estate in probate.

ah be fair. this time it was the judge accused of having a "vested interest to keep estate in probate". How and why doesn't make much sense given the judge isn't paid from the estate or based on how long they stay on probate etc.

I also wonder if the people who think "executors keep estate in probate to pay themselves" know about the trust and the trustee position. even the estate is out of probate, executors (and their successors) won't go anywhere until kids turn 30-35-40.
 
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ah be fair. this time it was the judge accused of having a "vested interest to keep estate in probate". How and why doesn't make much sense given the judge isn't paid from the estate or based on how long they stay on probate etc.

I also wonder if the people who think "executors keep estate in probate to pay themselves" know about the trust and the trustee position. even the estate is out of probate, executors (and their successors) won't go anywhere until kids turn 30-35-40.

Randy and his supporters are going mad watching the millions they believe should be his go to two strangers appointed by MJ. Like it was not enough that Randy received nothing from his bro's money while 3 "stranger" kids took his inheritance.
 
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^^??? I would imagine that we wouldn't see much difference between the Estate and the Family Trust, once that kicks in.
Isn't McClain a trustee along with Branca?

Do they have successors set up in case something happens to them? It's a long time before Blanket hits 40. I know they can act alone as Executors.
 
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^^

Do they have successors set up in case something happens to them? It's a long time before Blanket hits 40. I know they can act alone as Executors.

I think they did determine successors. And if not Bank of America will take that role,
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^ok thanks. Sometimes Trustees get to choose their own successors (if they resign, etc.). Wasn't sure how Michael had the Trust set up, but I do remember BofA now.
 
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^^ok thanks. Sometimes Trustees get to choose their own successors (if they resign, etc.). Wasn't sure how Michael had the Trust set up, but I do remember BofA now.

MJ gave them the authority to choose their successors , let's pray they do not select a Jackson. TJ Jackson enrolled in business school and got a masters in management very recently. I believe his intentions are clear. He is positioning himself to become an executor.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Wade needs a good telling off I can't believe he is still keeping on with his lies ?
You are a really nice friend.
 
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^^i apologize for my participation. Since Estate /Trust was brought up, I had a quick question. Did not mean to get the subject off Wade. (Although I don't really care about hearing about Wade, his wife and friends having fun making films. I would rather hear about him being totally destroyed.)

Hopefully we will hear more info from court soon.
 
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^^i apologize for my participation.

there is no reason to apologize. although it was a side topic, the amount of posts about it remained reasonable.

What doesn't make sense is being the first person to bring up that topic and then complain about other people responding to and about it.

Hopefully we will hear more info from court soon.

in safechuck first demurrer he took 2 weeks and he took 5 weeks for robson summary judgment. I guess that's the time we are looking at. today is the 2 weeks mark. 5 weeks put it by the end of August.
 
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in safechuck first demurrer he took 2 weeks and he took 5 weeks for robson summary judgment. I guess that's the time we are looking at. today is the 2 weeks mark. 5 weeks put it by the end of August.

But you said the status for the decision in both Safechuck and Robson's cases were "completed" last week. That's why we were waiting for news.
 
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But you said the status for the decision in both Safechuck and Robson's cases were "completed" last week. That's why we were waiting for news.

yes case summary shows a completed ruling on both cases and we got news about a ruling. After media reporting I'm thinking the judge has just ruled about the doctor subpoena and it got cross filed under both case numbers - as that subpoena first originated in probate case and then carried to the civil case.

it is possible for the judge to rule on one matter (doctor subpoena) and the ruling of other matters - demurrers- will follow.

if we are assuming that the judge ruled about all of them, given the media did not report about demurrers at all, the only logical conclusion that the ruling is a leave to amend.

but regardless hopefully the ruling in civil case will get posted on the system soon and we will get a better understanding.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Thanks to you both for clarification. End of August. :(
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Quick Safechuck recap

- civil complaint has been filed (I'll post the summary and document by tomorrow)
- he named the doe2 and doe3 defendants but their names are sealed and as of now I can't figure out why. I'm thinking it's the corporations because there is one underacted line that says "doe 1 used his corporate entities to facilitate the wrongful conduct"
- certificate of merit by the doctor is completely redacted.
- he claims to be abused between 10-14 yrs old over hundred times.
- claims he was replaced by Brett Barnes and jealous about it.
- this document has better redaction so it is impossible to decipher the acts he is claiming.
- based on this his probate claim doesn't stand a chance. not only he mentions he told his mother "very briefest statement that he had been abused" and states soon after MJ's death he read "Branca would be managing MJ's business affairs".
 
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They are so desperate to drag Brett into it LOL. That's so totally hater agenda. It's those hater websites which are so utterly, totally obsessed with Brett (just like their role model Victor Gutierrez was).
 
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Brett wont stand for such crap.
 
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- claims he was replaced by Brett Barnes and jealous about it.

He wasn't jealous of Wade? :smilerolleyes:
 
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Brett wont stand for such crap.

I think they want to drag Brett into this for two reasons. One, is because they built much of their case from hater websites and those sites are OBSESSED with Brett. There is no other guy they are more obsessed with than him. It comes from VG IMO because he was that obsessed with him in his book. The other reason may be strategical. They want to drag Brett in court and once again want to talk about those "365 nights" and IMO they will try to use that to prejudice the jury. How weak your own case has to be if you have to use such tactics about a guy who denies being abused?
 
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They are so desperate to drag Brett into it LOL. That's so totally hater agenda. It's those hater websites which are so utterly, totally obsessed with Brett (just like their role model Victor Gutierrez was).

Pah. They can keep trying to drag Brett all they want, but there's no way he'll budge for them and he's a lot smarter than they are. They might as well Boohoohooing over this.

Brett wont stand for such crap.

That's why he's one of Michael's true friends and will stick up for him. What a true pal he is.
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson / James Safechuck file claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Quick Safechuck recap

- civil complaint has been filed (I'll post the summary and document by tomorrow)
- he named the doe2 and doe3 defendants but their names are sealed and as of now I can't figure out why. I'm thinking it's the corporations because there is one underacted line that says "doe 1 used his corporate entities to facilitate the wrongful conduct"
- certificate of merit by the doctor is completely redacted.
- he claims to be abused between 10-14 yrs old over hundred times.
- claims he was replaced by Brett Barnes and jealous about it.
- this document has better redaction so it is impossible to decipher the acts he is claiming.
- based on this his probate claim doesn't stand a chance. not only he mentions he told his mother "very briefest statement that he had been abused" and states soon after MJ's death he read "Branca would be managing MJ's business affairs".

So, he seems to be demolishing his own case??? I wonder more and more that this whole claim is primarily about adverse publicity for MJ..the more adverse tabloid headlines the better. (I'm sure the 'over 100 times abused' is going to get some headlines). I wonder if another announcement from the Estate about a new release (DVD or otherwise) is due. This whole thing is increasingly bizarre....
 
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So, he seems to be demolishing his own case??? I wonder more and more that this whole claim is primarily about adverse publicity for MJ..the more adverse tabloid headlines the better. (I'm sure the 'over 100 times abused' is going to get some headlines). I wonder if another announcement from the Estate about a new release (DVD or otherwise) is due. This whole thing is increasingly bizarre....

I believe they feel that the judge was "harsh" with them because he knew they lied to get around the time issues and made it known that he knew in his ruling regrading Wade's probate claim.As a result, he did not sympathize with them and became suspicious of their whole case. Now they want him to feel guilty about them , give them another chance, be more lenient with them because they are willing to say the complete "truth" although this "truth" will heart their case, may be now he will understand why they lied. They are desperate for the judge to rule a jury shall hear the case. Their only chance is to guilt trip the judge so he finds a loophole in law to allow them to proceed to the jury phase. They know the estate will settle once the judge says the case goes to trial. It is a weak strategy , but at this stage their old strategy has not gotten them anywhere . They are desperate.

In 1993, it was the judge's rulings that forced MJ to settle. Back then the judge made everything in his power to protect Jordan.
The same happened in 2005, Melville gave the prosecutors everything they asked for, preventing Larry King from telling the jurors what Fieldman told him, preventing the defense from impeaching Fieldman on the stand using King's testimony, not allowing them to use the porn industry link when cross examining one of the bodyguards, the infamous ruling regarding the evidence from 1993.
 
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Ivy was kind to send me the doc in advance, so here is my summary:

- Jolie Levine is mentioned as MJ's PA on the Bad Tour and that she made the first invitation of Safechuck to Hayvenhurst on MJ's behalf.
- Safechuck claims on that first visit MJ gave him gifts and money when his parents were not around and when they later learnt and asked him not to give money to Safechuck he giggled and said he could not help himself.
- On the Safechuck's second visit to Hayvenhurst MJ and Safechuck drove off in MJ's Mercedes and passed out $100 bills to homeless people.
- LOL. He feels the need to mention the mannequins in MJ's room although it seems irrelevant.
- MJ invited Safechuck and his mother to a convention in Hawaii. I think this is where those photos we know were made. We have been wondering if the woman with MJ was Safechuck's mother, apparently she is. The trip was arranged by the, Doe 2 and Doe 3, the companies (altough if Doe 3 is MJJ Ventures that's quite impossible in its case because it did not even exist at the time).
- He feels the need to mention MJ called him "Rubba", a short for "rubber head".
- MJ taught him to dance.
- He feels the need to mention that MJ taped his nose with a white bandage tape "to form a shell to cover his nose" before going to sleep.
- In 1988 they went to see Phantom of the Opera and once again Levin made the arrangements on behalf of MJJ Productions. He claims both in Hawaii and in this trip MJ asked him to sleep in his room but his mother did not let him.
- In 1988 they also went to see MJ rehearse in Florida. This was the first time, he claims, that he slept in MJ's room.
- He claims MJ "coaxed" him to be a "miniature version" of him. MJ gave him gifts some of which he still has.
- He was on Bad Tour with MJ between June and December 1988 for six months. But "during that 6 month period, Plaintiff returned to the US to go back to school for several months". (So out of six months he retured to the US for several months so how is it still six months that he was on the Bad Tour then? I don't get it.) His mother was with him all through the tour and sometimes even his father.
- When he danced on stage with MJ on Bad Tour he was not paid by MJJ Productions but it arranged his and his families accomodations, travel arrangements etc. - again through Levine.
- He claims sexual abuse started on the Paris portion of the Bad Tour on June 25-29, 1988. The alleged acts are redacted. MJ allegedly told him "it was a way of showing love".
- He claims MJ gave him jewelry as a "reward" after abuse, some of which he still has including a medallion bearing MJ's face.
- He claims MJ taught him sexual codes "to use so that other people would not know what they were talking about when they were referring to their sexual activities". (So they talked about their sexual activities in front of other people? LOL.) "Bright light, brick city" was a hard-on allegedly after the movie Bright Lights, Big City. He claims while they were holding hands MJ was giving him signs with his fingers which were sexual cues.
- MJ flew him to NY for the Grammys in February 1989. The trip was arranged by Doe 2 and Doe 3. (Even though Doe 3 did not even exist, LOL.) The alleged abuse continued.
- The alleged abuse went on between 1988 and 1992. MJ allegedly instructed him "to be confident and deny everything if ever asked about the abuse". "DECEDENT told Plaintiff that he did not have to answer questions about what they did; that he should be vague and not give real answers to questions; and that if the police ever told Plaintiff that DECEDENT had "already confessed", they were lying and trying to trick Plaintiff." (The specificity of this always sounded so odd to me. I wonder if the police told him MJ confessed and he needed an explanation why he did not fall for that trick.) MJ allegedly repeated "over and over again" that the alleged sexual acts were Safechuck's idea.
- He claims MJ told him that "he would need to get married to protect his public perception".
- MJ allegedly added new elements to the abuse over time. Which these allegedly were is redacted.
- He claims he was confused about his sexuality but then he thought he was not gay because he had a crush on Sheryl Crow. MJ allegedly was jealouse of his attraction to women and talk about women to him in a negative manner.
- After MJ bought NL the sleepovers continued. MJ allegedly messed up the upstairs bedroom to make it look like Safechuck slept there when in actuality he stayed in MJ's bed.
- He mentions the alarm system, video cameras.
- MJ allegedly abused him in two of his bedroom closets.
- On several occasions Safechuck took his school friend with him to NL. They would play together but allegedly Safechuck and MJ would sneak off to be alone where sexual abuse allegedly occured. Allegedly they were always very careful not to be caught. (LOL, I guess he needed to excuse why his friend never saw or noticed anything.)
- When Safechuck was in fourth grade he had a girlfriend but MJ alllegedly did not like it and told him he could only be in a relationship with him.
- MJ allegedly trained him how to put on clothes very fast and run away quietly so people would not hear him. (Another preemitive strike I guess, LOL.)
- MJ allegedly instilled fear in him that if anyone ever found out their lives "would be over".
- MJ was allegedly paranoid and constantly questioned Safechuck about what conversations he had with other people. Once he fired a female limo driver because she asked Safechuck about MJ.
- Then all the crazy mess about "duck butter" (copyright by Evan Chandler), fake marriage complete with wedding ring and signed document, camera bulb being installed outside of the window to make it look like paparazzis caught them in the act which scared and made Safechuck cry.
- He claims once they became close MJ started to encourage him to stay away from acting and the spotlight. MJ promised him that he would always take care of him, he developed an attachment to MJ and wished he was his father. (So were they married or he wished him to be his father? Must have been pretty confusing times.)
- Well, he actually claims the abuse happened "hundredS of times" (plural!).
- When Safechuck turned 12 MJ began to focus more on Brett Barnes and other young boys.
- He claimed at the Hidout MJ gave him "pink wine" to drink and they watched porn movies. Heterosexual ones and ones with children masturbating in it. He claims MJ told him the latter was not really porn, only the former.
- When Safechuck turned 12 MJ "began to prepare Plaintiff for separation - telling him that he would have other friends". MJ spent more time with Brett and this made Safechuck jealous.
- After this they spoke less frequently, but MJ paid all kind of teachers and experts to teach Safechuck filmmaking. They went to his home on the weekends to teach him directing, script writing and MJ also financed Safechuck to direct several movies in high school. Supposedly he told Safechuck that "(the DECEDENT) will be there to set (Plaintiff's) foot in the door" of the entertainment industry and motion picture business".
- He claims MJ steered him away from school studies to make movies instead. He claims MJ talked out his parents of sending him to college. MJ allegedly told Safechuck that he would end up doing what MJ did.
- MJ arranged several trips for him and his parents in 1992-93. One to Boston to attend a Deepak Chopra retreat, another to visit the White House. Safechuck went to visit MJ on Jam, but he did not sleep in MJ's room, Brett slept there which made Safechuck cry. He was sent home several days earlier than his schedule.
- He claims in 1993 he testified at the Chandler trial. Not sure how when there was not a trial. I guess he means some police interview or deposition. MJ told him and his parents it was an extortion and his parents believed him.
- Safechuck was a prodiction assistant on the shooting of the HIStory trailer in 1994. His mother was with him on that trip too. The trip supposedly lasted one-two weeks (I don't think so, but I will have to look it up. It was a couple of days as far as I remember.) MJJ Production arrangeds and paid for the accomodations.
- He was a shadow director on Earth Song in 1995.
- After 1995 his relationship with MJ tapered off. He went to Moonpark Community College. But he could never get the university education he wanted "instead, his education had been derailed by DECEDENT's persuasion of him and his parents that college was a waste of time and that Plaintiff's future was in film direction."
- At Moonpark he started to experience panick attacks.
- In 2005 MJ contacted him again to ask him to testify at the trial. When he said no MJ allegedly got angry and threatened him "telling him that he had the best lawyers in the world and that they would get Plaintiff for perjury from the 1993 Chandler trial." (How the heck does this make any sense?) Safechuck was allegedly scared his mother would find out etc.
- Now again he claims he told his mother in 2005 he was abused (this claim goes back and forth, LOL). He claims he asked his mother not to tell MJ she knows so when MJ called the next time she would not reveal it to him that she knows.
- MJ's lawyers and Evvy Tavasci supposedly contated him and told him that he needed to testify to deny what the cooks at NL claimed. (That would be very odd since the cook - Quindoy - that said anything about Safechuck never testified and in fact, testimony about Safechuck was never allowed in.)
- Towards the end of the trial MJ allegedly called him again to try to make him testify (why would he do that when testimony about Safechuck was not allowed?). He told Safechuck Gavin just wanted money.
- Then MJ died. Safechuck knew about Branca managing MJ's business affairs.
- After the birth of his son in 2010 Safechuck began to worry that he would have pedophile urges. He started to see how innocent children really were. He married in 2007. Never told his wife about the alleged abuse. Safechuck had anxiety during his wife's pregnancy and he was prescribed Xanax. He did not discuss the alleged abuse with his therapist, nor did he link his anxiety issues to it.
- He heard about Robson's lawsuit in 2013 and now that he had a daugher he tought he might need help because his "fears increased about his own children and what could happen to them". He never linked his panic attacks and anxiety issues to alleged abuse before. He went to a therapist on May 20, 2013 with whom he discussed his alleged abuse for the first time. "He did not realize how "sick" it was that DECEDENT did the things he did to him as a child until he began therapy" and until he had his own children and realized how innocent they were.
- They repeat their usual mantra about how equitable estoppel should be granted to Safechuck because he was so manipulated that he was unable to realize and to bring his lawsuit before.
- Then there is a list of the specific allegations he makes, but they are all redacted. They learnt from the last time because this time also the penal codes are redacted.

Wow, actually the legal argument is incredibly weak as to how and why the companies would be responsible. It is only one page in this 30 pages document and all he does is he makes a general statement about how the companies had a duty of care to him and they failed to take reasonable steps to prevent abuse. That's all! They do not make any argument about how this supposedly happend. They do not refer to any precedents. They do not make any cause of action about what the companies supposedly did or did not do. They just basically make a general statement that the companies were negligent and period.


At the end they say they want puntitive and compensatory damages. Of course, the alleged abuse also affected Safechuck's ability to work so like Robson he also needs to be compensated for past and future earnings.


This is simply nothing. They know they do not have a case. At this point they just seem to go on to drag it on.
 
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Another thing I noticed is that in this document they do not mention that MJ allegedly called him once each year between 1997 and 2005 to ask him about his sex life and to keep reminding him that if he would tell his life would be over. That part is missing from this story. Remember it was first not there. Then when they needed to make a claim in probate about how MJ supposedly kept up his brainwash on him they started to claim it. But now it is missing again. Same as the "I told/did not tell my mother in 2005" stuff. LOL.

It's a very weird document. I read kept reading and reading it and waiting for the legal argument and at the end there was nothing. Just one paragraph with a blanket statement saying how MJ's companies were negligent but not even an attempt to explain how. It's like his lawyers kind of realized it's over and at this point they just keep going on to drag it on for as long as they can.
 
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And BTW, the therapist who vouches for Safechuck is a bit interesting. I read Marzano's Certificate of Merit and she is mentioned there. Although they redacted her name, they failed to redact it in one place. She's called Dr. Alvarez. When they first filed Robson's lawsuit the therapist vouching for him was another person, Dr. David Arredondo. Now I wonder if they changed therapist. Of course, it's possible that it's different and always have been different for Robson and Safechuck, but then it is interesting because the quotes I read so far from Certificates of Merits from both Robson and Safechuck's documents - they have the exact same texts in both. You don't tell me that the doctors do not actually write these but Robson's lawyers do and the doctors just sign them? LOL. Or how else would they end up with the exact same texts in them if they are written by different people? The other option is that they changed therapist during the case for both of them which would also be interesting.

Actually I already noticed a place in the latest motion by the Estate where they want access to the therapists' docs that they used the pronoun "her" referring to the therapist. So that would imply that Robson too has this female therapist now vouching for him. Elsewhere however they use "his" so I am a bit confused about this now. LOL.

I wish the Estate had been given discovery on this issue. It seems like there is something going on with these therapists.

Back to the complaint: it's even weaker than Robsons. I was wondering before what claims he will make about the companies. Was he employed by them at one point? And it seems he was never employed by them. He never makes the claim he was employed by them at any point. It's just that the companies arranged the trips and accomodations for him and his mother when they travelled with MJ. That's the whole basis of his complaint against them. This is very, very weak.

ETA:

"Plaintiff was born in Simi Valley, California on February 28, 1978. Plaintiff started working in television commercials at the age of 7-8 in approximately 1984/1985."

So clearly, the showbiz ambition was there before MJ.

BTW, he specifically quotes two documents in his complaint. One is a letter MJ wrote to him on March 10, 1987. We already had this here before. It says:


Dear Jimmy,
Thank you for your letter. It was nice hearing from you again! I’ve been busy working on a new video for my album and have been really busy.
It was fun working with you on the Pepsi commercial! Maybe we can work together again. I’d like to have you come and visit me on the set sometime or when I have some free time you can come to my house.
Keep sending me letters! I love to hear from you!
Speak with you soon, [Michael Jackson]

The other is a tape of an interview he did with MJ during the Hawaii trip:


Plaintiff: “What do you think about lying?”
Decedent: “People make up stories about [Michael Jackson].”
Plaintiff: “Do you like performing?”
Decedent: “Favorite things are writing songs, performing, and being with Jimmy.”
Plaintiff: “Any new plans?”
Decedent: “Smooth Criminal short film, new Pepsi commercial, best Pepsi commercial was the one with Jimmy because he had heart, best thing about Hawaii was spending time with Jimmy, love Jimmy’s family and want to spend time with them.”

I thought they seem a bit random inclusions in this lawsuit, I guess they use these because this is the kind of "evidence" they have. Nice letters and interviews that they will try to twist into something else. I mean about this latter interview the complaint says that MJ called Safechuck "Rubba" in it. I guess that is supposed to be its significance. LOL.


And the letter was written on a paper with MJJ Productions heading. I guess this is supposed to link the alleged abuse to MJJ Productions. LOL.
 
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What a load of..well you know. Seriously this just gets more and more sick and pathetic. I could go on and on about his claims, but it would be a very long post.
So he still has his jewellery eh? He must be okay with that since he never threw it away. Hmmm wonder if Gavin still has that watch?
And why, as mentioned earlier would Michael want him to testify for him so badly in a child molestation trial when he molested Safechuck so viciously? Thats the most moronic part of the whole bit.
I can't seriously believe they want to try defend this on the stand. This is not just about cash, but to destroy Michael's name and legacy forever.
 
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the jewelry he mentions doesn't seem to be valuable. A medallion with MJ's face on it? It sounds like a regular MJ merchandise.
 
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the jewelry he mentions doesn't seem to be valuable. A medallion with MJ's face on it? It sounds like a regular MJ merchandise.


Exactly what I thought when I read that.
 
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^^

yep per collectors site

Silver Medallion With Michael's Portrait (1990), Gold Medallion With Michael's Portrait (1990), Bad Era, release date 1990 and sold at auction for $1280 or $1408
 
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yep per collectors site

Silver Medallion With Michael's Portrait (1990), Gold Medallion With Michael's Portrait (1990), Bad Era, release date 1990 and sold at auction for $1280 or $1408


Yes, the "gold medalion" is actually just goldtone and the "silver" is silvertone acc. to this:

http://www.mjjcollectors.com/index....tegory_id=258&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=99

http://www.mjjcollectors.com/index....tegory_id=258&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=99


So I think they are only worth that much now because they are memorabilia.
 
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