I was reading The Roots of Pedophilia By: Sam Vaknin
http://www.silentlambs.org/Therootsofpedophilia.htm
because I read in Sullivan's book that Ray Chandler used this study to prove that MJ was a pedophile. He of course cherry picked a few lines and interpreted in his way, completely ignoring the rest of the text and 99% of MJ's life.
What one actually finds reading this study is how much MJ does NOT fit any of these profiles at all.
Pedophiles seem to have narcissistic and antisocial (psychopathic) traits.
Micheal didn't like to look in the mirror (he told Oprah), was very shy and even ashamed of how he
looked (Debbie testified that he thought he was like the Elephant Man), hard to see how he was a
narcissist.
And antisocial?? He had more people coming in and out of his life then an army division all put together.
He was constantly looking to make new friends: men, women, boys, girls, everyone.
Listen to what Chris Columbus said about MJ calling him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MvFvzk6-M0&list=PLUNRNxfONfvUZjdGMXjyWbM4_SkFpV9tN&index=10
And psychopathic traits? Diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior?
He was the exact opposite. He always wanted to help others and make others happy.
They lack empathy for their victims and express no remorse for their actions.
Anyone who says that MJ lacked empathy probably also says that Mother Theresa was a serial killer.
He certainly had a lots of empathy for Taj Jackson after he was molested, and hard to see how someone
who thinks sex with kids is OK would or could write lyrics like Do you know where your children are?
He's taking her on the streets of Sunset Boulevard
She's selling her body, ha girl that will take her far
The police come round the corner, somebody there told
He's arresting this little girl,
she's only 12 years old
Save me (
from this living hell)
Not to mention things like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o-GCA-zJao
or this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdncrcmAE24
Or him starting to cry just by mentioning the Holocaust, or Chopra talking about starving kids in Africa, or
Brett Ratner telling him that it's impossible to cure every child in the world or his reaction to the book
Gonsalves gave him When a child cries.
If anything MJ was frantically emphatic, much more so than the average person and it would have killed him
if he had been responsible for anyone's suffering.
They are in denial and, being pathological confabulators, they rationalize their transgressions, claiming
that the children were merely being educated for their own good and, anyhow, derived great pleasure
from it.
Not even his accusers ever claimed such a thing and he certainly never tried to rationalize sex with kids, he
actually said "that's nuts".
The pedophile's ego-syntony rests on his alloplastic defenses. He generally tends to blame others (or the
world or the "system") for his misfortunes, failures, and deficiencies.
MJ was a perfectionist who cried after the Motown 25 performance. Hardly a sign of someone who
blamed others for his failures, and deficiencies.
Generally people tend to blame others first, MJ didn't do this more than any other person.
"The pedophile - similar to the autistic patient - misinterprets the child's body language and inter-
personal cues."
When did MJ misinterpret a child's body language and inter-personal cues?
In every picture and every video showing him interacting with kids he seems to perfectly understand
their body language and inter-personal cues.
Like that of this little girl who walks up to him to hug him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsA-Vcp9TEk
His social communication skills are impaired and he fails to adjust information gained to the surrounding
circumstances (for instance, to the kid's age and maturity).
He perfectly communicated with kids from babies to older teenagers.
Coupled with his lack of empathy, this recurrent inability to truly comprehend others cause the pedophile
to objectify the targets of his lasciviousness. Pedophilia is, in essence, auto-erotic. The pedophile uses
children's bodies to masturbate with. Hence the success of the Internet among pedophiles: it offers
disembodied, anonymous, masturbatory sex. Children in cyberspace are mere representations - often
nothing more than erotic photos and screen names.
MJ never used the Internet to contact kids let alone watch child porn. His hard drives were examined by
the FBI they found nothing.
Sex with subteens implies freedom of action with impunity. It enhances the pedophile's magical sense of
omnipotence and immunity. By defying the authority of the state and the edicts of his culture and society,
the pedophile experiences an adrenaline rush to which he gradually becomes addicted. Illicit sex becomes
the outlet for his urgent need to live dangerously and recklessly.
Even if we believed ALL of his accusers it would hardly be an addiction.
In fact it would show that MJ could go without sex for months even years and then suddenly become
uncontrollably horny. So much that he would even abduct a family just to have two mastrubation sessions
with a bulky ugly arrogant teenager. Right.
The pedophile is on a quest to reassert control over his life. Studies have consistently shown that
pedophilia is associated with anomic states (war, famine, epidemics) and with major life crises (failure,
relocation, infidelity of spouse, separation, divorce, unemployment, bankruptcy, illness, death of the
offender's nearest and dearest).
None of this is true to MJ's life.
It is likely - though hitherto unsubstantiated by research - that the typical pedophile is depressive and with
a borderline personality (low organization and fuzzy personal boundaries).
Totally unlike MJ who could smile even amid the worst ordeals of his life as was described by many as a funloving person. Hardly depressive.
Pedophiles are reckless and emotionally labile.
LOL MJ was not reckless (consider all the safety measures in Neverland) and actually remarkably even-tempered.
The pedophile's sense of self-worth is volatile and dysregulated.
MJ never had any problem understanding his self-worth.
He is likely to suffer from abandonment anxiety and be a codependent or counterdependent.
When was he suffering from abandonment anxiety? If anything he was perpetually lonely because
of his fame but he liked doing things in his own ways. Unless we count the employees he was
dependent on like his bodyguards. But that was necessary in his circumstances.
The pedophile makes frequent (though unconscious) use of projection and projective identification in his
relationships with children. He makes his victims treat him the way he views himself - or attributes to them
traits and behaviors that are truly his.
None of his accusers ever said that "he made me treat him the way he views himself".
He derives pleasure from the sleazy nature of his pursuits because it tends to sustain his view of himself as
"bad", "a failure", "deserving of punishment", and "guilty".
Yeah MJ viewed himself as Bad, really really Bad.
But failure? Hell no.
Deserving of punishment? Hell no.
Guilty? Hell no.
Many pedophile truly bond with their prey. To them, children are the reification of innocence, genuineness,
trust, and faithfulness - qualities that the pedophile wishes to nostalgically recapture.
MJ didn't want to RECAPTURE innocence, trust, faithfulness. He WAS innocent and trusting by his very
nature. Ola Ray said when he thinks about MJ he thinks about innocence when Bruce Swedien was asked
"was he suspicious of people" Bruce replied "Nooo".
And he bonded with dozens of kids, boys and girls but he only wanted to "recapture innocence, trust,
faithfulness" with a few who coincidentally wanted his money? Makes sense.
What about his bond with Mac Culkin or Frank Cascio or Kelly Parker or Amy Agajanian?
The relationship with the child provides the pedophile with a "safe passage" to his own, repressed and
fearful, inner child.
MJ's inner child was many things, none of it repressed.
His inner child was in full display every day whether he was with kids or not.
Consider this, for example when he was alone with Jane Goodall , a grown woman:
"In some ways,
he was like a child, and a very sweet and gentle child, and he wanted me to tell him many,
many stories," she said. "Stories about the chimpanzees, the forests, animals, anything. He told me he liked
the way I told stories."
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/10/09/ent.jackson.goodall/index.html?eref=ew
or when he was with Harrison Funk, a grown man:
"He liked to play practical jokes, and he liked to have fun.
He was a big kid. There was one food fight
where I wore a bucket of shrimp...after they poured it all over me,”
Or when he transformed his New York apartment in to a mini-Neverland all for himself, not for kids:
IN AUGUST 1999, MICHAEL STARTED WORK ON HIS NEW album, which would become Invincible, in New
York City. He rented a town house on the Upper East Side, on Seventy-fourth Street. As Michael had done
with his Hideaway in Culver City, we transformed that Upper East Side town house into a mini- Neverland.
Michael wanted to create an environment where he felt comfortable, and he felt most comfortable when
he was being a kid. So up on the fifth floor was a game room, with video games, a pool table, a movie
projector, a popcorn machine, and a fully stocked candy counter. Michael asked for some mannequins,
which I picked out at showrooms. They were delivered, assembled, and dressed in sportswear. We posed
them around the first floor. To keep them company, there was a life-size Batman from Sharper Image
standing in the middle of the room.
http://jetzi-mjvideo.com/books-jetzi-02/11mfm/11mfm11.html
Through his victim, the pedophile gains access to his suppressed and thwarted emotions. It is a fantasy-
like second chance to reenact his childhood, this time benignly. The pedophile's dream to make peace
with his past comes true transforming the interaction with the child to an exercise in wish fulfillment.
Again the question would be why would he try to do this only with those who had mentally ill parents
looking for making millions?
And didn't he try to reenact his childhood by doing stuff like this all the time?:
http://img.spokeo.com/public/900-600/bill_bray_1977_07_23.jpg
http://s826.photobucket.com/user/KayMickz/media/Michael Jackson/78419991.jpg.html
http://media.photobucket.com/user/T...ckson - Bad Era/TheBadTour32.jpg.html?filters[term]=michael%20jackson&filters[primary]=images&sort=1&o=12938
He wanted to do things he didn't have the chance to do as a child.
Are we supposed to believe that he wanted to have sex as a child?
This explanation would make sense if the person was not doing so many childlike things as MJ clearly did and if he had a repressed inner child instead of an overt one like MJ had.
It's very telling that in his conservation with Schmuley he specifically mentioned sexual things that he saw as a child and he was fed up with which is why later on
he didn't want any of it and wanted instead to go to Disneyland.
The pedophile treats "his" chosen child as an object, an extension of himself, devoid of a separate
existence and denuded of distinct needs. He finds the child's submissiveness and gullibility gratifying. He
frowns on any sign of personal autonomy and regards it as a threat. By intimidating, cajoling, charming,
and making false promises, the abuser isolates his prey from his family, school, peers, and from the rest of
society and, thus, makes the child's dependence on him total.
MJ did not isolate any of his accusers from anyone. In fact their families were always around.
MJ even spent time in the homes of the Chandler parents. What kind of isolation is that?
And which "victim's" dependence on his was total or anywhere near total?
The pedophile “ stealthily but unfailingly “ exploits the vulnerabilities in the psychological makeup of his
victim. The child may have low self-esteem, a fluctuating sense of self-worth, primitive defence
mechanisms, phobias, mental health problems, a disability, a history of failure, bad relations with parents,
siblings, teachers, or peers, or a tendency to blame herself, or to feel inadequate (autoplastic neurosis).
Chandler was not vulnerable. He was healty, good looking, a good student, he had friends he didn't have bad relations with his
parents. And Arvizo was especially not vulnerable he was an arrogant bastard who was proud to be an
arrogant bastard.
Robson Safechuck? Same thing. Neither of them was in any way vulnerable. They were in good families,
and they didn't have disablities or pshycho problems in any way.
The kid may come from an abusive family or environment“ which conditioned her or him to expect abuse
as inevitable and "normal".
None of his accusers came from an abusive family except Arvizo who most certainly didn't consider sexual
abuse normal and wouldn't have tolerated it.
The pedophile is the guru at the center of a cult. Like other gurus, he demands complete obedience from
his "partner".
MJ demanding obedience? If anything kids were bossing him around all the time!
Like here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLECbwNK3kk
He was everything but an authoritative figure. Even if you consider Chandler's story where he claimed MJ
started to cry when he said he didn't like French kissing and then MJ never did it again. Yeah makes sense
since he didn't try to stop the blow job, just the French kissing. Anyway, would someone who demands
complete obedience simply stop doing something because the "partner" didn't like it?
He feels entitled to adulation and special treatment by his child-mate. He punishes the wayward and the
straying lambs. He enforces discipline.
No such things in any accuser's claims.
The child finds himself in a twilight zone. The pedophile imposes on him a shared psychosis, replete with
persecutory delusions, "enemies", mythical narratives, and apocalyptic scenarios if he is flouted.
No "enemies", mythical narratives, and apocalyptic scenarios in any accuser's claims.
The typical pedophile is a micro-manager. He exerts control over the minutest details and behaviors.
That does it. MJ was the complete opposite of a micro-manager. And he not only didn't exert control
over minutest details and behaviors he often didn't even know what the people around him were doing.
Just think about his finances in later years.
He punishes severely and abuses with holders of information and those who fail to conform to his wishes
and goals.
MJ's way of punishment was firing people who stole from him without ever filing charges.
His way of punishment for people who trashed him was to stop talking to them.
Indeed he punished people "severely".
He was notoriously non-confrontational.
The pedophile does not respect the boundaries and privacy of the (often reluctant and terrified) child. He
ignores his or her wishes and treats children as objects or instruments of gratification.
MJ ignoring kids' wishes and treating them as objects?
The very thing that got him into trouble was that he couldn't say NO when kids asked him.
How exactly did Gavin Arvizo end up in his bedroom? He ASKED MJ to let him sleep there.
And MJ was reluctant but still couldn't turn him away fearing that he would hurt his feelings.
He seeks to control both situations and people compulsively.
MJ was the total opposite. In fact he couldn't control situations and people when he certainly should have.
Like not allowing the Arvizos go anywhere in his house including his room while he wasn't even there.
The pedophile acts in a patronizing and condescending manner and criticizes often.
Again, MJ was just the opposite. He treated everyone with respect, he was soft-spoken and mild mannered
noone ever called him patronizing or condescending and he didn't critize often.
Just think about the episode where Blanca Francia was caught with MJ's jacket. Francia said I was cold and
MJ simply said Oh that's OK. Not everone would have bought Francia's BS explanation.
He alternates between emphasizing the minutest faults (devalues) and exaggerating the looks, talents,
traits, and skills (idealizes) of the child.
MJ never did that and none of his accusers ever claimed such a thing.
Narcissistic pedophiles claim to be infallible, superior, talented, skillful, omnipotent, and omniscient. They
often lie and confabulate to support these unfounded claims and to justify their actions.
Well, MJ never claimed that he was talented. LOL. He should have told the truth.
Anyway, he was always very humble about his talent and always credited God for everything he did.
Far from claiming to be omnipotent, and omniscient.
Most pedophiles suffer from cognitive deficits and reinterpret reality to fit their fantasies.
I can't think of a single example when MJ "reinterpret reality to fit his fantasies." He was so bloody
successful reality was pretty huge as it was. There was no need for reinterpretation.
In extreme cases, the pedophile feels above the law – any kind of law. This grandiose and haughty
conviction leads to criminal acts, incestuous or polygamous relationships, and recurrent friction with the
authorities
.
Other than the bogus charges he never had a friction with authorities.
The pedophile regards sex with children as an ego-booster .
Subteen children are, by definition, "inferior".
MJ had a pretty healthy ego, thank you very much. There was no need to boost it one way or the other.
And he treated kids as his equal.
His relationships with children buttress the pedophile's twin grandiose delusions of omnipotence and
omniscience.
He didn't have twin delusions of omnipotence and omniscience.
Inevitably, the pedophile considers his child-victims to be his best friends and companions.
Now this is very telling.
Whenever MJ talked about who his friends were he always mentioned ADULTS and only adults.
Never kids!
Like in this interview, he mentions Diana Ross, Jane Fonda, Quincy Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umq1AGZhHYg&list=PLUNRNxfONfvUZjdGMXjyWbM4_SkFpV9tN&index=14
or in this one, "people outside of show-business, ladies"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lao3_sB0_nY&list=PLUNRNxfONfvUZjdGMXjyWbM4_SkFpV9tN&index=17
in this one Elizabeth Taylor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOnAFOrGRyE
in this one, one true friend Quincy Jones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFj6pxGslWA&list=PLUNRNxfONfvUZjdGMXjyWbM4_SkFpV9tN&index=37
in the Schmuley interview: Taylor, Shirley Temple, Mac Culkin (by this time an adult)
SB: Someone you can unburden yourself to emotionally in a way that Prince couldn't understand or
Paris coulnd't understand.
MJ: Mmmm. Friends and certain people you can trust. Elizabeth or whoever...Mac
Shirley Temple, people who have been there.
Even among kids his accusers were far from being his best friends.
He tried to avoid Arvizo, he rarely even met with Jason Francia. When Safechuck was around him
so was Sean Lennon who said he spent more time with him than probably anyone else. And Brett Barnes who was as close to him as any kid ever, except the Cascios.
Of all kids the Cascios were by far his best friends and they most certainly were not his
victims.
Pedophiles are lonely, erotomanic, people.
MJ was often lonely but that was due to his fame and not knowing who to trust, but erotomanic??
He never had any delusion that any kid was in love with him and no accuser ever claimed such a thing.
It was a fact that kids became very attached to him, both Robson and Safechuck said that they loved him unconditionally, and Chandler told his father that he liked MJ, and Arvizo most certainly was very clingy.
And MJ correctly recognized that kids fell in love with his personality because that's the way it was. It was not a delusion which is what erotomania is.
The pedophile believes that he is in love with (or simply loves) the child. Sex is merely one way to
communicate his affection and caring.
This bullshit can be ruled out in MJ's case. He most certainly didn't believe that sex with a child
was merely one way to communicate his affection and caring if he wrote this note to Dee Dee Jackson
after Taj was molested:
To show his keen interest, the common pedophile keeps calling the child, dropping by, writing e-mails,
giving gifts, providing services, doing unsolicited errands "on the kid's behalf", getting into relationships
with the preteen's parents, friends, teachers, and peers,
Out of all these things he did only two: he called them on the phone and gave them gifts.
But not even that is a constant. He never called Jason Francia and he never gave him gifts.
He also stopped talking to Arvizo.
And most of all he spoke on the phone with everyone and gave gifts to everyone!
Long phone calls with the Stein family members, husband, wife, daugther, long phone calls with Kidada
Jones, with Laura Chaplin. Plenty of gifts for the Cascios or the van Valin kids, plenty of phone calls with
Karlee and Brett Barnes with Joy Robson with Mac Culkin, Rodney Allen Rippy....there is no pattern here
other than the fact that MJ liked to talk on the phone with pretty much everyone he considered a friend
and he gave gifts to everyone, often even strangers, simply because he was generous.
and, in general, making himself available (stalking) at all times.
Now that would have been awfully difficult in his case even if that's what he had wanted to do.
He most certainly didn't make himself available at all times.
Not even when Arvizo wanted him to be available.
The pedophile feels free to make legal, financial, and emotional decisions for the child.
No such thing in any accuser's claims.
The pedophile intrudes on the victim's privacy, disrespects the child's express wishes and personal boundaries and ignores his or her emotions, needs, and preferences.
Again, MJ was the exact opposite. He respected children's wishes, sometimes way too much, unfortunately.
And he most certainly didn't ignore their emotions, needs and preferences.
To the pedophile, "love" means enmeshment and clinging coupled with an overpowering separation anxiety (fear of being abandoned).
Didn't Arvizo complain because MJ abandoned his family?
MJ was most certainly not afraid of being abandoned by Arvizo. Or Chandler. Or Robson or Safechuck.
It's ironic that haters often make the argument that it was MJ who was ready to abandon kids once they become too old.
And if anyone was clinging it was his accusers. Particularly Arvizo who threw a tantrum in March 2003
after their "final escape" because he wanted to do back to Neverland and be with MJ!
The pedophile determinedly sees it as his or her task to bring life and happiness into the child's dreary and unhappy existence.
Like the unhappy existence of Jordan Chandler or Wade Robson or Safechuck?
In what way was their existence unhappy?
Thus, regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the pedophile is convinced that his feelings are reciprocated - in other words, that the child is equally infatuated with him or her.
MJ was convinced that Arvizo was in love with him? And he was in love with Arvizo?
And Jason Francia? Ridiculous. I suppose he was in love with Star Arvizo too because initially he too claimed to be molested.
And I'm sure Mj was convinced that the fat ugly kid was in love with him.
:crazy
Some (by no means all) pedophiles are socially-inapt, awkward, schizoid, and suffer from a host of mood and anxiety disorders.
None of this is true to MJ. He was a remarkably even-tempered guy even under pressure. And he was not
awkward let alone schizoid. He was shy as everyone with disfiguring conditions would be.
They are driven by their all-consuming loneliness and all-pervasive fantasies.
Imagine MJ being driven by his all-consuming loneliness to Gavin Arvizo!
LOL. Except he didn't want to do anything with him before or even after the Bashir interview.
And had it not been for the Bashir doc being a complete distortion of what he was really all about
the Arvizos would have never entered his life again.
He was driven by damage control not all-consuming loneliness.
Consequently, pedophiles react badly to any perceived rejection by their victims. They turn on a dime and become dangerously vindictive, out to destroy the source of their mounting frustration.
That's not what Chandler described at all. MJ supposedly started to cry when Chandler didn't want to be French kissed. Hardly the same as becoming vindictive.
And noone ever claimed that MJ wanted to destroy them. Well except Safechuck in his recent desperate effort to support his e. estoppel argument.
And even that is not the response to rejection but a threat not to reveal what happened.
When the "relationship" looks hopeless, some pedophiles violently embark on a spree of self-destruction.
Hm...never happened in MJ's life.
Conclusion:
Ray Chandler is full of shit.
uke:
