[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

T-Mez got info from Pearl Jr? Why? Is that really true? Then again, I can't say I'm surprised. He's not keeping the wisest of company these past few years.
 
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His source for this speculation is Pearl Jr:bugeyed
I really do have to wonder why hasn't he gone to internet and done a little search on Pealr. Maybe that search would have stopped him speculating this utterly ridiculous rumour of settlement

TMezz deserves credit for what he did in 2005, but what he has said and done since 2009 - not so much credit goes to him, if any:unsure:


I wouldn't be surprised if it was settled. This has gone on for 2 years now. Maybe both parties were like "whatever, lets just work something out and get this over with and move on"

Jeez,I would be damn surprised if they settle this kind of frivolous lawsuit:bugeyed

FYI, Wade filed his lawsuit in May 2013, and Tohme case was Feb 2012 and they haven't settled Tohme case either even thou it has been going on longer than Wade's case.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It WOULD totally surprise me if they settle the case, especially now, when things look really bad for Wade and after Safejunk's case was basically dismissed (or something close to that).

I don't know if Branca allegedly saying Michael "can't go through another trial" makes him a bad guy. It is what is. We know how demaging things can get, but I would never trade it for a settlement. I think they know a settlement will look just as bad if not worse. And will call other nutcases to ask for money, just like the 2005 case was a direct follow up to the 1993 blackmail.

I'm not surprised with the Tmez thing, he's entitled to his own opinions and we're entitled to disagree with some of them. I didn't agree with all the things he said abouth Katherine's case, and I don't agree now. It's a shame he his sources are biased and/or really, really ignorant.
 
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Maybe the Estate should have put him on retainer

I think that ship has long sailed. TMez hasn't really been neutral about this issue and have been attacking and blaming Executors. It only hurts his chance of ever being hired for these claims IMO.

T-Mez got info from Pearl Jr? Why? Is that really true?

You can confirm this by listening to the interview yourself but this is what he said (forgive the mistakes) "I'm not representing th Estate, I don't speak for Estate, I don't know their strategy in this case I'm not a part of it. But Pearl Jr who is following this case and going to court and checking the files and talking to the court clerk, she showed up recently and she reported to me and said there's no case number and file to exam and I said to her if that's the case they settled. "

But that's not the case, there's a case number and files to examine - in the membership required Civil Document Images.

His source for this speculation is Pearl Jr:bugeyed
I really do have to wonder why hasn't he gone to internet and done a little search on Pealr. Maybe that search would have stopped him speculating this utterly ridiculous rumour of settlement

he has been speculating a settlement for quite some time. He doesn't trust branca or weitzman and he is thinking they would settle to avoid a trial. So when pearl gave him information - incomplete information- he just saw it as confirmation of this belief.

I don't know if Branca allegedly saying Michael "can't go through another trial" makes him a bad guy. It is what is. We know how demaging things can get, but I would never trade it for a settlement. I think they know a settlement will look just as bad if not worse. And will call other nutcases to ask for money, just like the 2005 case was a direct follow up to the 1993 blackmail.

Is Branca saying from 1993 or recently?

Because in hindsight many disagree with 93 settlement but back in 93 there was valid reasons for not wanting to go through a trial.
 
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^ I don't know, I'm reffering to what barbee wrote in this post, maybe she can answer this question

I just finished listening to it and I am a little bit put out. I realize he says he is speculating, speculating, but he also goes into great detail about the old Chandler case and the other kid, Francia, gives out amounts of money he speculates were paid at the time. He also says he doesn't believe Weitzman, and that Branca said Michael couldn't go through another trial (so that makes them both look bad) and that Gradstein, the Robson/Safechuck atty is a GREAT atty and points out that Quincy is using him too.
 
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Yes, everyone has the right for his own opinion, but Meserau is an expert as a lawyer and I am shocked as he expresses his opinion to cases without sufficient retrieve information. He did it in the AEG-trilal. He trashed the jury in a interview directly after the verdict, said a appeal has good chances. I am also shocked that he trusted as a lawyer information from not reputable people. It would be easy for him to check information before he goes in a interview instead of specualting things. He did not even follow the case, trusted only on information some fans and family members gave him.
 
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Yes, everyone has the right for his own opinion, but Meserau is an expert as a lawyer and I am shocked as he expresses his opinion to cases without sufficient retrieve information. He did it in the AEG-trilal. He trashed the jury in a interview directly after the verdict, said a appeal has good chances. I am also shocked that he trusted as a lawyer information from not reputable people. It would be easy for him to check information before he goes in a interview instead of specualting things. He did not even follow the case, trusted only on information some fans and family members gave him.

I 100% agree with you.
I personally expected more of him, but seemingly Ivy does better job than TMezz as what comes to law.
 
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I 100% agree with you.
I personally expected more of him, but seemingly Ivy does better job than TMezz as what comes to law.

It's not that I do a better job. I follow it more closely while TMez relies of what other people tell him. To her credit Pearl attended at least one hearing but on the other hand I'm also sure that she wasn't aware and/or didn't have an account at the "Civil Document Images" section.
 
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It's not that I do a better job. I follow it more closely while TMez relies of what other people tell him. To her credit Pearl attended at least one hearing but on the other hand I'm also sure that she wasn't aware and/or didn't have an account at the "Civil Document Images" section.
But you're not an attorney, are you Ivy? Tom, as an attorney, should know that cases don't just disappear and that means AUTOMATIC settlement. I'd think he would question that.

^ I don't know, I'm reffering to what barbee wrote in this post, maybe she can answer this question
I took it to mean back in 93. He was talking about "back then" Weitzman signed the settlement, and Branca said Michael couldn't go through a trial, etc. So he said that to prove he doesn't have faith in them.
 
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^Thank you barbee, I still think it doesn't make them bad guys or means we shouldn't trust them with this case. I think they're very much aware that a settlement is a bad idea, and not just because it's going to make Michael look guilty (not sure it would)

Edit: Maybe Tom doesn't know much about this online data? Since he's not following the case he doesn't know where it does or doesn't appear
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^Thank you barbee, I still think it doesn't make them bad guys or means we should trust them with this case. I think they're very much aware that a settlement is a bad idea, and not just because it's going to make Michael look guilty (not sure it would)
I don't see Weitzman or Branca as bad guys in any way, shape, or form-it was just the way this was said that had this implication, at the same time complimenting Gradstein to the skies.
I have a feeling that some of this was colored with "anti-Estate" sentiment from somewhere.

I do remember a press conference or two back in 93 where Weitzman did a fine job of defending Michael on the allegations.
 
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I think that ship has long sailed. TMez hasn't really been neutral about this issue and have been attacking and blaming Executors. It only hurts his chance of ever being hired for these claims IMO.

And this something I'm worried about. It's not even about whether he would represent the Estate/MJ in this if it went to court, but considering Mez's participation in 2005 and his encounters with Robson he may have to cooperate with the Estate lawyers about certain aspects of this case. But his very undiplomating comments about the Executors only keep alienating him from them and I don't like that. It also makes it clear to the opposing side that there are hostile feelings there between the lawyers and I just don't think it is a good thing to show that kind of drift to the opponents. They all need to put egos aside and work together if they want to defend Michael.

I do not know myself how the Estate will handle this issue (and let's hope for the best) but I can't see how predicting bad things all the time helps. If they really screw up THEN that would be time for criticism. Not now.

I still appreciate Mez a lot because he is the only one of high profile who goes out there and defends Michael in an eloquent, no-nonsense way. Let's not forget that he does not have to do this. (As for someone's comment about the "celebrity bug" earlier in this thread: I doubt appearing on a fan radio with a handful of listeners show gives him "celebrity". I really think he cares about Michael and his reputation.)

On the other hand it is clear that he does not follow the Robson case in-depth (he certainly has his own busy life and job) and just reacts to the very limited (and sometimes - like in this case - false) information provided to him by a couple of fans who are in personal contact with him. So fans will have to consider that when weighing the opinion he provides.
 
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But you're not an attorney, are you Ivy?

No I'm not

Tom, as an attorney, should know that cases don't just disappear and that means AUTOMATIC settlement. I'd think he would question that.

still he was misled by Pearl though. I posted what he said above. Pearl told him both the case number as well as the files "disappeared" and there's nothing to examine. So he assumed that to mean the whole case was suddenly sealed - like similar to juvenile records being sealed I guess. However I don't see it's relevance to this situation though.


I took it to mean back in 93. He was talking about "back then" Weitzman signed the settlement, and Branca said Michael couldn't go through a trial, etc. So he said that to prove he doesn't have faith in them.

^Thank you barbee, I still think it doesn't make them bad guys or means we should trust them with this case. I think they're very much aware that a settlement is a bad idea, and not just because it's going to make Michael look guilty (not sure it would)

When I listened I took it to mean 1993 as well. Like I said in hindsight we see settlement was a bad decision as it opened doors to future claims as well. But back in the day people did not have that luxury of seeing the future. Michael was dealing with addiction and also they didn't want to go through a civil trial before criminal trial.

As for now I don't think any reasons for settlement in 93 would be relevant now.
 
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I don't see Weitzman or Branca as bad guys in any way, shape, or form-it was just the way this was said that had this implication, at the same time complimenting Gradstein to the skies.

Mez always compliments opposing lawyers to the high skies, it does not mean anything. He also said about Zonen that he was a great prosecutor and did a great job in 2005. I think he does this to say MJ was not aquitted because of a bad job done by the opposing lawyers, ie. prosecutors. He was aquitted because he was innocent. Also, when you praise your opponent and say he did a great job, with that you also say that you - who beat him - also did a great job. ;)
 
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Ivy and barbee I'm with you on this, we all think we could have made better choices in hindsight. I'm not criticizing them for the 1993 settlement. Maybe it was a little bit naive.

Knowing what we do know now, a settlement with WR would look like an invitation to all money hungry lunatics with the likes of James and Wade to come and sue them for lies they can't prove.
 
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still he was misled by Pearl though. I posted what he said above. Pearl told him both the case number as well as the files "disappeared" and there's nothing to examine. So he assumed that to mean the whole case was suddenly sealed - like similar to juvenile records being sealed I guess. However I don't see it's relevance to this situation though.
And that's what I meant. I don't expect attorneys to be mislead, I guess. I think he would have questioned Pearl on that one.

when I listened I took it to mean 1993 as well. Like I said in hindsight we see settlement was a bad decision as it opened doors to future claims as well. But back in the day people did not have that luxury of seeing the future. Michael was dealing with addiction and also they didn't want to go through a civil trial before criminal trial.

As for now I don't think any reasons for settlement in 93 would be relevant now.
It's just been in the last five years that I have realized how hard Michael was pushing for that criminal trial to go before the civil trial and exactly what that means in terms of human basic civil rights and crucial to his case. I think anyone who reads and understands exactly what happened (instead of just what was reported in the news at the time, making it sound like it all "went away" because of the settlement) would completely understand why he did it.

If it happened to any of us, we would also settle. They had him totally against a wall-by our OWN JUSTICE SYSTEM.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Wonderful posts !

I also want to clarify a confusion about "secret/private settlement". While in majority of the cases settlement terms are sealed / private / confidential , information about settlement isn't. So I strongly believe that there should be a dismissal request/notice. Plus settlement of probate claims require probate courts authorization and approval. So in my opinion a "secret settlement" is quite impossible.

Plus why would they consider a settlement now? as respect pointed out. TMez believes - and he is entitled to his opinion- that Estate won't want to go through a trial. and there's previous example from other cases that shows Estate settled after summary judgment - before trial. But even though you think that "settlement to avoid trial" is possibility, it is too early for that. These cases aren't even allowed to go forward and they can still be dismissed. So a settlement right now, doesn't make much sense to me.

Exactly Ivy these cases have not yet even move forward and the reason why you have these extensions is because the judge is say you cases does not fit the laws go back and fix it so far Wade and his lawyers have yet to do this. That why i do not understand Tom the best thing he could have done is just say nothing that common sense if you have not been following the case.
 
respect77;4074910 said:
Mez always compliments opposing lawyers to the high skies, it does not mean anything. ;)


No he doesn´t allways praise both lawyer-sides. I can see it a bit the in the Murray-trial. He praises Walgran and gave also some complimaents for Flanagran and Co. In the AEG-trial he was only one-sided. Panish and Co who he recommanded to Randy gets all the praises from him. He never said anything good about Putnam and Co.
And I also can`t see that he praises the Estate-lawyers and the great reputation they have. He treated them as if they are not able to handle the case.
 
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^ OK, not always then but he often does it. Like I said he also praised Zonen as a prosecutor and I'm sure he did not do it because he agreed with him or was supportive of what he and Sneddon did in any way. But there is a certain tactic in playing up the opponent. And it's also to say that if the other party loses that's not because the lawyer sucked.
 
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I was a bit disappointed that Tom didn't try to check what was happening with these cases before speculating but I'm guessing like others that it may be because of time restraints. He's a great attorney but he's also human and he's certainly not above making mistakes. I wish he'd waited and got the correct information before speculating but what's done is done. I see it as a good thing that he says nice things about people who were and are working on the opposing side, it shows maturity, I just wish he'd apply the same to the current cases and put aside his personal problems with not being asked for help so far. It won't give anyone much of an incentive to ask for his help if he keeps that up.

We know Michael was more interested in getting the criminal trial brought forward, do we have any court documents anywhere stating that he wanted this? I'm not an American citizen so I have a bit more difficulty in trying to get hold of this like this. Pretty sure the Chandlers mentioned it in their horrible book but having documents to confirm would be great to have if we've got access to them.
 
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T Mez should be ashamed of himself for even listening to Pearl Jr. in the first place.. The judge has basically said that the case those two are presenting are not passing the smell test and as of now won't go further.. He has given them time to amend their cases but neither of them have proof that the estate is responsible for their lies of abuse and they can't sue a dead man.. The case should be thrown out and hopefully it will be. The estate has a 2005 acquittal on their side and years of praise of MJ from both of those liars, why would they settle?



Jaydom7, I totally agree about Tom. His actions lately are a deep disappointment coming from a man of his intelligence
 
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MJresearcher;4074996 said:
We know Michael was more interested in getting the criminal trial brought forward, do we have any court documents anywhere stating that he wanted this? I'm not an American citizen so I have a bit more difficulty in trying to get hold of this like this. Pretty sure the Chandlers mentioned it in their horrible book but having documents to confirm would be great to have if we've got access to them.


There are many precedents where civil proceedings have been frozen to allow the criminal trial ahead, preserving a defendant’s right to a fair trial and preventing that right from being violated. According to precedent cases:
“When both criminal and civil proceedings arise out of the same or related transactions, the defendant is entitled to a Stay of Discovery and trial in the civil action until the criminal matter has been fully resolved.” [2; page 116-117]
However, in regards to the case against Michael Jackson, all such attempts by Jackson’s lawyers to stay the civil proceeding were dismissed by Superior CourtJudge David M. Rothman. Apparently, the Chandler’s trump card was Jordan’s age. Here is what Geraldine Hughes (the legal secretary of Barry Rothman, the attorney who represented the Chandlers before Larry Feldman took over), writes in her book entitled Redemption:
“Michael Jackson lost all four motions. It was obvious from a legal standpoint of view that the scales of justice were not pointing in Michael Jackson’s favor. Instead, it was weighing heavily in favor of the 13-year old boy. Michael Jackson’s attorneys were applying precedent laws which were applied in a similar sexual battery case. Pacers Inc. v. Superior Court specifically held that it is improper invasion of the defendant’s constitutional rights not to stay civil proceedings where a criminal investigation is ongoing. But Mr. Feldman’s trump card was, “a child’s memory is developing,” and their inability to, “remember like an adult.” This law was designed to protect a small child’s ability to recall for prolonged periods of time after being a victim and/or witness to a crime. This case, however, involved a 13-year old boy, who was soon to be turning 14 years old.” [2; page 124]
Using this reasoning, Feldman filed a Motion for Trial Preference for the civil proceedings. “This is a special request to have the trial heard within 120 days after the motion is granted” [2; page 121]. In this regard, Hughes writes:
“Mr. Feldman filed a declaration by Dr. Evan Chandler in support of the Motion for Trial Preference which had one statement: that the child was under the age of 14. That was it! Dr. Chandler did not state anything else in his declaration, which is a written statement under oath declaring statements of truth. I have never seen a declaration concerning an important case this short in my entire legal career. A declarant will usually attest to several facts, especially concerning an important case like this one. They will also declare that said facts are true and correct and state their willingness to be called to competently testify under penalty of perjury. Is it possible that the information that Dr. Chandler declared was the only information he could competently testify under penalty of perjury?”[2; page 122]
Under extremely unfavorable conditions, Jackson and his attorneys might have found themselves in a position where they would have had to fight and defend Jackson on two fronts at the same time – in both a civil and criminal trial. On top of that they would have to prepare for a civil trial within 120 days, while the police for the criminal proceedings had seized all of Jackson’s personal records and refused to provide copies or even a list of what they took. “The District Attorney’s office was operating, with the blessings of the Court, in violation of Michael Jackson’s constitutional rights, and the Court was weighing heavily in favor of the 13-year old boy [2; page 133].” After all motions to push the civil proceedings behind the criminal had been denied, the Jackson team was left between a rock and a hard place. The start of the civil trial was set for March, 1994 and Jackson was to be deposed at the end of January, beginning of February. The Chandler’s motion papers accused Jackson and his attorneys of applying “delay tactics”, but they knew well that those “delay tactics” were all about getting the criminal proceedings heard ahead of the civil proceedings. Ray Chandler, in his book, All That Glitters, quotes a conversation that took place between Jordan Chandler’s father, Evan Chandler and their civil attorney, Larry Feldman and it proves that they were the ones utilizing delay tactics with regards to criminal proceedings:
“Later in the afternoon, after everyone had consumed their holiday repast, Larry Feldman called Evan with news they could all be thankful for. “Hey, Evan, you gotta hear this one. Howard Weitzman demoted Fields again. They definitely don’t want your deposition, or June’s deposition. They don’t want to preserve anything. If they’re gonna make a deal they don’t want anything on the record about Jackson.” No shit! Larry, these guys are in a real mess.” “Yeah, they ****ed this up unbelievably. What could be better? But I’m going forward. We’re going to push on. So far there ain’t a button I’ve missed. The only thing we gotta do is keep the criminal behind us. I don’t want them going first.” Larry had said it before, but it hadn’t registered in Evan’s brain till now. “You mean if they indict, the criminal case automatically goes before us?”
“Yeah.”
“Jesus Christ!”
“Right! So we don’t want that.”[3; page 201-202]
It must be reiterated that only a criminal trial can send a perpetrator to jail; a civil trial can only result in a monetary award. The California law that allowed the Chandlers to push the civil trial ahead of the criminal trial was changed eventually – according to Santa Barbara District Attorney, Thomas Sneddon directly because of what happened in the Chandler case. Because of this change, an accuser in a sexual assault case cannot pursue a civil lawsuit right away. The new law restricts a civil trial from preceding a criminal trial. It is for this reason that Jackson’s 2003 accuser, Gavin Arvizo, could not use the same strategy as what the Chandlers did in 1993. He had no choice but to begin a criminal trial first:
“The prosecutor in the Michael Jackson case praised a law that can halt civil lawsuits during related criminal cases, saying it would prevent a scenario where the singer’s accuser accepted a settlement and then refused to testify in the criminal trial. The state law was passed because another child backed out of a 1993 molestation case against Jackson after the singer reportedly paid him a multimillion settlement, Santa Barbara District Attorney Tom Sneddon said. “It is an irony. The history of the law is that the L.A. district attorney’s office carried the legislation as a direct result of the civil settlement in the first investigation,” Sneddon told The Associated Press in an interview.” [4]

http://michaeljacksonallegations.com/the-settlement/
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I took it to mean back in 93. He was talking about "back then" Weitzman signed the settlement, and Branca said Michael couldn't go through a trial, etc. So he said that to prove he doesn't have faith in them.

I don't get his fixation with Weitzman? Is he even aware of that Cochran was lead attorney in 93 case and his name is the first one on the settlement doc, and seemingly Corcoran hammered the deal
"At the same time, he was negotiating with Larry Feldman, the 13-year-old boy's attorney, a courthouse colleague. In the end, he and Feldman hammered out a settlement in which the boy received an undisclosed sum and Jackson did not admit any guilt. "It was the only way to get the case off the front pages," says Cochran. "I wanted Michael to be able to go on with his career."
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20108331,00.html

Maybe he is holding some sort of grunge on Wetzman because he works with the estate, and has been listening Randy's fake will stories? Who knows, but TMezz running his mouth without checking that facts doesn't do any favours for him, re for example AEG is behind Wade allegations.
 
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I think Tom may actually kind of like the attention he get from certain fans.
 
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It's not that I do a better job. I follow it more closely while TMez relies of what other people tell him. To her credit Pearl attended at least one hearing but on the other hand I'm also sure that she wasn't aware and/or didn't have an account at the "Civil Document Images" section.

Thats what I meant. You read documents first and then give your opinion, but TMezz gives a pass to reading but gives his opinion based on huuhaa that some woman makes up.

Btw, I remember asking you this thread why cannot I see the case in court system and you gave me the same answer than you've been saying all along. It wasn't something that was there to see, and disappeared all of sudden.

It beats me that lawyer of TMezz caliber doesn't follow the case more closely but have opinion based on nonsense. As people here have been saying already, it simple doesn't make any sense to settle now when it looks like Wade's case is in weak ground.

Secondly, the other reason not settle is that they make money for Michael's beneficiaries as well for themselves. Making money of Michael's name and likeness will take huge bump if they settle, so I don't see that they would go for settlement for that reason too. It simple doesn't make sense that the estate lawyers settle the case, and public would know there is a settlement, even though no details were released. The public would think the very same as they did 93, and there goes MJ image and likeness and there is not going to be launching this or that when MJ's image is in tatters.

TMezz should know or at least think what does or doesn't make sense, and stop listening all sort of nonsense
 
barbee0715;4074780 said:
I just finished listening to it and I am a little bit put out. I realize he says he is speculating, speculating, but he also goes into great detail about the old Chandler case and the other kid, Francia, gives out amounts of money he speculates were paid at the time. He also says he doesn't believe Weitzman, and that Branca said Michael couldn't go through another trial (so that makes them both look bad) and that Gradstein, the Robson/Safechuck atty is a GREAT atty and points out that Quincy is using him too.

Then they speculate on how much money they might settle these cases for. Come on. I just find this highly irresponsible and it's really no wonder some fans are getting confused. He acts like it's a fact that they can settle it totally in secret and he uses Randy, Pearl ? and Sullivan's book as references.

Was Branca even a lawyer in time of the settlement for Michael. I thought he came back later after that.
How could he said in 1993, he can`t got through another trial when there wasn´t a trial before.


Bubs;4075063 said:
It beats me that lawyer of TMezz caliber doesn't follow the case more closely but have opinion based on nonsense. As people here have been saying already, it simple doesn't make any sense to settle now when it looks like Wade's case is in weak ground.

Maybe it would help when Ivy sends him all documents and information so far from the cae.
 
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^^

I have no contact with TMez and I don't intend to try to contact him.
 
Annita;4075107 said:
Was Branca even a lawyer in time of the settlement for Michael. I thought he came back later after that.
How could he said in 1993, he can`t got through another trial when there wasn´t a trial before.
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Why would Branca even be involved, when he's an entertainment attorney. I don't think he had anything to do with it.
 
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Tom did a beautiful job in defend Michael in 2005 and for him to not look at the facts in these cases to see where they stand i find it hard to believe but he is willing to listen to a lie and then say settlement. Tom is going to lose the Michael Jackson fans if he has already i am so sad that Tom is doing this so unfair to Michael memory.:(
 
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Fact? LOL. Go here: http://www.lacourt.org/

Click on "access your case". Type BC508502 (case number for Robson case). To me it shows up.

This is what I see:

Future Hearings

04/10/2015 at 08:30 am in department 51 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Status Conference

also:

Documents Filed (Filing dates listed in descending order)

02/11/2015
Stipulation and Order (extending time to respond )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent


01/13/2015 Stipulation and Order ( for time to respond to third amended complaint; )
Filed by Attorney for Defendant/Respondent

To me it seems like the Estate asked for more time to reply to Robson's latest amended complaint. Which means he did submit it. And it also means there is no settlement going on.



I so hate it when it's fans spreading the nonsense. As if we do not have enough of that from haters.
 
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