Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Yes, I can imagine a call happened but of course not the way Safechuck represents it now. In one of the articles it was written that Safechuck claims MJ threatened him to try to get him testify. Please.... :smilerolleyes:
While I can imagine MJ called him to check if he would testify for him, but (apart from the fact he was not the threatening type) he did not need to be that desperate about it, since testimony re. Safechuck was not allowed. If this call happened I would imagine it happened before the Judge made his decision about what will and what will not be introduced under 1108 evidence. Also, why would MJ be so desperate to get a guy on the stand that he supposedly abused over 100 times? Would not that be extremely risky? Even more risky than calling Robson to testify since he has not met Safechuck for almost a decade at the time. Would not he rather try to convince him to keep away from the court room?
So in short, while I think it's possible a call happened but I'm sure Safechuck is twisting it now to support his current story (of course, it's also possible that he totally made up the WHOLE call story).
I agree with this.
Just logically thinking I can see Michael calling his friends and asking if they would testify for him - be a character witness. He was being accused of being improper with kids and the first person to call would be other kids who could testify he wasn't improper with them. As I said I can also see Safechuck or anyone not wanting to testify and get dragged through "were you abused as well?" questioning.
However I can't see any alleged perpetrator calling a person they abused decades later and wanting to testify for them in their defense. That doesn't make sense.
I know nobody here is a mind reader but maybe one of you guys what does "later" mean? Can he make a ruling later that day\week without waiting to another court session or does later mean the next time they have a court time with the Estate? Does it have to be on schedule?
No he doesn't need to wait for a court session. It could be a day later or a month later. I would say on average it would be two weeks and the latest it would be a month.
Unlike others, i guess i'm just totally confident that these cases (probate and civil) will get thrown out as the time limits are so clearly breached and the arguments are so lame. I can't imagine, whatever his polite remarks, the judge is going to be taken in by gradstein's reams and reams of filings citing all these precedent cases which aren't relevant to the case in hand and just ignores anything that is an obstacle to their story.
I'm also confident that the civil and probate cases against MJ and Estate will get dismissed.
As for Safechuck as I said multiple times before his claims were absurd - even more absurd than Robson. Safechuck claimed he told he was abused to his mother in 2005 but then simultaneously claimed he didn't realize abuse/ effects of abuse until Robson came forward in 2013. He can't have it both ways. It seems judge realizes this as well. I also think - and also expressed it before - judge is being careful and making sure his decisions won't be appealed or overturned by taking his time, taking it under consideration etc.
As for Robson's claims (and Safechuck's for that matter) against MJ and Estate , I can't see them being allowed. It's a terrible precedent and I'm not talking about MJ. If they are allowed to sue a dead man and/or his estate, what's going to stop anyone to sue someone 30-50 yrs after they are dead because they just realized they were abused? It just doesn't make sense at all.
The only thing I can see is the lawsuit against corporations being allowed to continue a little further but in my opinion it would also get dismissed due to corporations not being able to control MJ and not being able to show "know or should have known" for the corporations.
Like invincibletal, i'm concerned how the dismissal will likely be portrayed as due to a mere technicality, a victim of strict californian timelimit legislation for poor survivors of sex abuse blah blah. I hope that the estate doesn't see a dismissal of these cases as the final word, but will make statesments exposing wade and jimmy's hard to believe stories of decades long mind prison etc.
I personally wouldn't worry about it much. Yes some people would see it as technicality but those people wouldn't be swayed by any statements from Estate either. I feel majority of people have already made up their minds one way or another and nothing would change that. I also think majority of the people don't care about these allegations anymore - hence media mostly not being interested in these proceedings- so it might be better not to feed the media by talking about it.
