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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I would like to believe that Wade's mother is upset by what he's doing. Time will tell what she thinks of all this. But personally, I'm not expecting her to say that she knows he's lying.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

MJLovesyoumore said:
Oh yeah he does: https://www.facebook.com/wayne.rodson

The account is definitely his I noticed it is registered to his email.

Please don't message him as it would be interesting to see if he makes anymore activity on the account.
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He has only one friend on that page. I wonder if it's the same guy here

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Gregory-Nathan/-489081

The same name and both from New Jersey.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

shelly_webster said:
He has only one friend on that page. I wonder if it's the same guy here

http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Gregory-Nathan/-489081

The same name and both from New Jersey.
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Could be:

"Pacifica, with headquarters in Encino, and an office in Manhattan Beach, works closely with 60 lending institutions to assure clients the lowest and most competitive rates in the industry. "

http://www.zoominfo.com/#!search/profile/company?companyId=344783907&targetid=profile
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I feel like it wouldn't matter to the general public/haters if his mom supports him or doesn't support him. If she comes out and doesn't support him, then people will say, "Well this is the woman who allowed her son to hang around MJ and get molested. She's crazy." Stuff like that. It would probably help the estate in the lawsuit, though, if it goes to court. It is strange how she's been silent.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

The mom silence speaks volumes. A son goes on tv twice to talk about an abuse when his mom was supposed to be around. It would make sense that the mom would be at his side supporting him verbally, so she is staying quiet for a reason. Notice that no paps rushed to her home to question her about it, or asked her to come on tv. Where is Wade's dad anyway?

About the 1991 case, someone said it could be about immigration, but how can that be if there is a plaintiff and defendant? Plaintiff and Defendant shows that some entity is making a complaint against another, like Katherine vs AEG.
 
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Petrarose said:
The mom silence speaks volumes. A son goes on tv twice to talk about an abuse when his mom was supposed to be around. It would make sense that the mom would be at his side supporting him verbally, so she is staying quiet for a reason. Notice that no paps rushed to her home to question her about it, or asked her to come on tv. Where is Wade's dad anyway?

About the 1991 case, someone said it could be about immigration, but how can that be if there is a plaintiff and defendant? Plaintiff and Defendant shows that some entity is making a complaint against another, like Katherine vs AEG.
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His mother actually up and left to Australia not long before Wade filed a claim against the MJ's estate.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

MJLovesyoumore said:
His mother actually up and left to Australia not long before Wade filed a claim against the MJ's estate.
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Which is rather strange to me. Her son just found out he was sexually abused for 7 years by someone he considered one of his best friends and his mentor, which must be an incredibly traumatic experience (if it were true). What mother would leave her son at such a difficult time and move to the other side of the world?

My guess is she knows Wade is lying and doesn't want to get involved.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Petrarose said:
The mom silence speaks volumes. A son goes on tv twice to talk about an abuse when his mom was supposed to be around. It would make sense that the mom would be at his side supporting him verbally, so she is staying quiet for a reason.
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I absolutely agree with that statement 100%
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Look at that facebook account

Kathryn Grant
10 mai
Keeping in prayer our L.A. "family" the Robsons...Wade's sexual abuse case against Michael Jackson is courageous. Healing from being robbed of your innocence by a predator is a long road. It takes courage, introspection and hope. Please surround this family in prayer. Taking on the Jackson family is unbelievably difficult especially in the public eye. They need our prayers.

https://www.facebook.com/kathryn.grant.146?hc_location=timeline
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I hate how they're acting like such victims. The media believes MJ is guilty, they have SO much on their side. They can do damage and say crazy things and MJ isn't even here to defend it and the media will not bother to counter it, the way they act like Blanca Francia is a legit credible witness already.
 
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la_cienega said:
I hate how they're acting like such victims. The media believes MJ is guilty, they have SO much on their side. They can do damage and say crazy things and MJ isn't even here to defend it and the media will not bother to counter it, the way they act like Blanca Francia is a legit credible witness already.
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It's funny, the US is one of the only country in the world where you can go on tv and claim you were abused and give the name of your abuser. If they think it's so hard then they should talk to Tristane Banon, DSK first accuser.
 
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Why is it always okay that Wade's past defense of Michael when he obviously had enough sense to give straight-forward answers to the abuse questions in the media and in court gets ignored? And now he's praised as being "courageous" when he waits until four years after his alleged "abuser" dies to start talking. Personally, I think that Wade is lying. And I find it disgusting how he's being hailed now as some kind of hero. Isn't this the same man who went to court in 2005, (also as an adult), and defended the same alleged "abuser" who he now claims abused him when he was a child? How is Wade any "hero" for abuse victims with his excuse of "being in denial" even when he defended Michael in court as an adult?
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Petrarose said:
About the 1991 case, someone said it could be about immigration, but how can that be if there is a plaintiff and defendant? Plaintiff and Defendant shows that some entity is making a complaint against another, like Katherine vs AEG.
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Or did Michael employ Wade in anyway ? for a video, a show ?

But that doesn't make sense, why would Michael sue a kid ?
 
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la_cienega said:
I hate how they're acting like such victims. The media believes MJ is guilty, they have SO much on their side. They can do damage and say crazy things and MJ isn't even here to defend it and the media will not bother to counter it, the way they act like Blanca Francia is a legit credible witness already.
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Yes, it's annoying, but then I think if my friend accused someone my first reaction would also be to believe her. They are buying the story simply on the basis of being their friends. It's natural human reaction. They are mislead but they don't know that. They are just being loyal to their friends.
 
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Kingofpop4ever3000 said:
Why is it always okay that Wade's past defense of Michael when he obviously had enough sense to give straight-forward answers to the abuse questions in the media and in court gets ignored? And now he's praised as being "courageous" after he waits until four years after his alleged "abuser" dies to start talking. Personally, I think that Wade is lying. And I find it disgusting how he's being hailed now as some kind of hero. Isn't this the same man who went to court in 2005, (also as an adult), and defended someone brought up on abuse charges and who he now claims also abused him when he was a child? How is Wade any "hero" for abuse victims with his excuse of "being in denial" even when he defended Michael in court as an adult?
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Exactly. Even if someone wants to believe him, he's anything but a hero, sorry. What he claims now is that he knew he was abused, still he chose to defend his abuser in court and help him get off the hook instead of helping past or potential future victims. His excuse for that? He didn't realize it was wrong. At the age of 22. While MJ was criminally prosecuted for these allegations. It just didn't occure to him that maybe, just maybe it's something wrong. I'm sure abuse victim groups can find better representatives for their cause.

This whole "hero" and "champion of the abused" posturing is very, very transparent. He's just trying to get abuse victim groups and sympathy on his side. I hope most of those abuse victim groups won't fall for him and realize he's just cynically trying to exploit them for his own ends.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

bouee said:
Or did Michael employ Wade in anyway ? for a video, a show ?

But that doesn't make sense, why would Michael sue a kid ?
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I wondered if it was some kind of legal trick to help them stay. Like they were about to be sent back to Australia but if someone sued them they could stay until the case was resolved or something. I don't know if that can be done. Just an idea.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

My understanding of who the HERO was during the 2005 trial, it was Macaulay Caulkin, not Wade Robson. If that's all Wade Robson is seeking because the 2005 trial gave him adulation and employment. Now that he can't do any better than his last big job, that of working for Criss Angel, I can see why Wade Robson is going in this direction, it's all about adulation. Now the problem with Wade Robson using textbook 'I am a victim of child molestation' he will have to be more specific than that.

It's just so hard to see how disrespectful Wade Robson is to Michael Jackson, when it was Michael Jackson's name that always seemed to help Wade Robson's resume in procuring working with someone like Britney Spears.


Michael Jackson - Scream Louder
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Kingofpop4ever3000 said:
Why is it always okay that Wade's past defense of Michael when he obviously had enough sense to give straight-forward answers to the abuse questions in the media and in court gets ignored? And now he's praised as being "courageous" when he waits until four years after his alleged "abuser" dies to start talking. Personally, I think that Wade is lying. And I find it disgusting how he's being hailed now as some kind of hero. Isn't this the same man who went to court in 2005, (also as an adult), and defended the same alleged "abuser" who he now claims abused him when he was a child? How is Wade any "hero" for abuse victims with his excuse of "being in denial" even when he defended Michael in court as an adult?
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His friends are calling a hero no one else. And as far has mom goes she is only silently because there are questions she will have to answer and she does not want to do that yet. But I am more then sure she is in it.
 
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Justthefacts said:
His friends are calling a hero no one else. And as far has mom goes she is only silently because there are questions she will have to answer and she does not want to do that yet. But I am more then sure she is in it.
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I know she is his mother but do you think she believes him? I suppose if he gets a pay out she wins too, so know, only time will tell
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't know if she believes him or not but let's not kid ourselves he is her son
 
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I believe she has well. It was no accident that she went back home.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

shelly_webster said:
Look at that facebook account

Kathryn Grant
10 mai
Keeping in prayer our L.A. "family" the Robsons...Wade's sexual abuse case against Michael Jackson is courageous. Healing from being robbed of your innocence by a predator is a long road. It takes courage, introspection and hope. Please surround this family in prayer. Taking on the Jackson family is unbelievably difficult especially in the public eye. They need our prayers.

https://www.facebook.com/kathryn.grant.146?hc_location=timeline
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Why is this person writing about taking on the "Jackson family." This has nothing to do with the family but Michael Jackson, which now is his estate. She is right though, Wade needs prayers so that the Lord will have mercy on him and hopefully the prayers will make him tell the truth, which is, he is lying.

Bravery was pushed so that those victimized by the various abuses would feel empowered and able to come forward and disclose their abuse. That is why all supporters will say how brave Wade is, and the other typical words, like "on his road to recovery, taking control, his need to heal" and bla bla, so be prepared for that.

Interesting how both Wade and his mom ran away. Why didn't the sister run away too?
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

You notice how they all ignore the fact that for 20 years he was all up Michael's butt. Even thought he is a douche someone told Harvey Levin that Wade had repressed memories remember it was he talked about when this story broke. He was shocked after that today show interview.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So they both have run off yet the court hearing is in a few days time...wow how cowardly
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Justthefacts said:
You notice how they all ignore the fact that for 20 years he was all up Michael's butt.
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Yes. And every time the subject of his 2005 testimony or his defense of Michael in the media is brought up, his camp comes up with some lame excuse for why none of that should count. But his past defense of Michael needs to be brought up alot in those court hearings. The court just can't allow him to pull a nasty stunt like this and get away with it. It's not fair that people who cared about Michael have to endure this allegations crap again and again and again and again. And we're still hearing the most stupid excuses for this garbage.
 
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