[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I totally agree, could Qbee maybe get involved in this and make it happen?

I agree with Qbee about it - to close down all WR threads and not to talk about it makes no sense at all.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Exactly. But whatever she makes up now how does her 2005 testimony looks like now that Wade claims to have been molested? For example, in that she says she never asked Wade, not even after the Chandler allegations, she just trusted Michael and let Wade sleep in his room. Compare that to the Cascios who were asked by Oprah whether they ever asked their kids about it. And Dominic said naturally they sat down with them, talked to them and asked them after the first allegations. That's how every normal parent would react. It's not a bad thing, it's not something against Michael to ask your children in that situation. It's just what a parent has to do. So IF it goes to court it will be inevitable that Joy would be called and that her testimony from 2005 would come up. And now that Wade claims to have been molested, it would only make her look very, very bad. No matter what, there's no getting around that for them. And if she now will claim she actually did notice "signs" or suspicious things then that will only make her look even worse for not even asking Wade about it. Just turning a blind eye on those "signs"? For what? Money? Career? That's exactly the narrative the prosecution was trying to push about these parents. How happy is Joy to embrace that portrayal of a pimp now? Because that's what she will have to embrace now if they claim this.

Yes I agree it is responsible thing for a parent to do and question their children in these kind of accusations arise. and I agree it doesn't paint her (Joy) in a good light at all.

I would imagine Wade already knows that this whole thing will paint his own mother who as you said a very bad one who basically pimped out her own son.
I also think if he can do this to his own mother then what's stopping him? he would be most definitely very easy for him to do this to MJ.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

And if Wade thought it was totally normal a child to be sexual abused how the hell did she raise him?
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Yes I agree it is responsible thing for a parent to do and question their children in these kind of accusations arise. and I agree it doesn't paint her (Joy) in a good light at all.

I would imagine Wade already knows that this whole thing will paint his own mother who as you said a very bad one who basically pimped out her own son.
I also think if he can do this to his own mother then what's stopping him? he would be most definitely very easy for him to do this to MJ.

I think Joy is aware of this too. But as long as the money is right these parents seem to be okay with that portrayal. Just like June Chandler. First she was on Michael's side. But when she saw the prospect of getting money through Evan's plan she switched sides and was OK with her portrayal as a negligent mother. She got $1.5 million from the settlement at the end, so financially it was worth for her, I guess.

Or there is Blanca Francia. She says she witnessed Michael doing all those disturbing and creepy things to young boys, like showering with them, but she had no problem bringing her own son around him? How come? What kind of mother would do that? As long as she's getting paid for it, it seems like it's OK for her to be seen like that.

Or Janet Arvizo. In a prosecution document she claimed that her sons first told her about the abuse in February/March 2003. To which she just said: "forgive and forget". WTH? It has to be noted that in the same document later she contradicted herself and claimed she only learned about the alleged abuse in September, 2003 when the police interviewed her children and "uncovered" the alleged abuse. Either way, what kind of mother would it make her look like? But she is OK with it as long as she has the prospect of getting money out of it.

Of course, all these accusers' stories are fiction and probably that's why the mothers are not really bothered by looking like totally incompetent parents - since they know the whole thing is not true. If they thought it was true guilt should be eating them up inside. Reality however doesn't make them look any better: they are greedy ass extortionists - and they raised kids without good morals and values.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

"What the **** is Wade doing? He told me personally that whole story is false, OMG, this has me floored!" That's the better translation --the Bing one is no good--can't handle the slang.

ha ha the Bing translation was literal- that's the problem with those translation sites they can only do word for word in literal terms, they can't handle slang or idioms. You are right on the money Jamba!
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Wayne Rodson? That FB page makes him look totally desperate and pathetic. Fishing so hard for sympathy by getting himself associated with child abuse groups. He's making a mockery of real abuse victims. Shame on him.

LOL @ these losers getting turned down even by TMZ and Dimond.

There are haters everywhere for everything and everyone under the sun. The more famous, the more of them. There's no way to control them except ignoring them. They thrive on any attention. TMZ or anybody knows these people are low lifes with no credibility so why even give them the time of day. I choose to ignore them. I learned my lesson right after Michael's passing when I was trying desperately to reason with one of them and the more I tried the more this person relished it, and the more frustrated and stressed I got. There was something very wrong about that- why should I give this scum the satisfaction of making me upset? No way- I KNOW Michael is a kind, wonderful person, he never hurt anyone and frankly especially now after his passing, the majority out there feel the same way.

This Wade guy will get his for his lies. What a total low life he is. Frankly, after all this, his only friends will be those haters. He will fit in just fine with that group. Ha ha.
 
"Originally Posted by MJLovesyoumore
I found a couple of very interesting Facebook comments earlier which I feel I should share

They are both from people who have worked with Wade:

Status: "beside i worked with him during 10 months and look a great person, is hard to believe you my friend!!! something is wrong!!!

Comment:Que coño hace wade? a mi me contó personalmente que toda esa historia era falsa, madre mia, me ha dejao planchado!That pussy does wade? to my told me personally that all that story was false, my mother, me has left ironing! (Translated by Bing)"



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Que coño hace wade? a mi me contó personalmente que toda esa historia era falsa, madre mia, me ha dejao planchado

What the hell wade? to me personally told me the whole story was false, mother, left pressing me!

I checked translation many times and this is what he meant! INTERESTING!!!!!

No disrespect MJLovesyoumore but the "left ironing" didn't make sense to me to I did a full translation with a friend who is half fluent in Spanish.

One more question, and this is not questioning your integrity, but is this a solid source?

Thank you for your revealing input

x

PS having problems putting in original quotes so made yet another change!!!!
 
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MJJ Fan4321;3834557 said:
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Que coño hace wade? a mi me contó personalmente que toda esa historia era falsa, madre mia, me ha dejao planchado

What the hell wade? to me personally told me the whole story was false, mother, left pressing me!

I checked translation many times and this is what he meant! INTERESTING!!!!!

The part about ^^"mother, left pressing me" sounds awkward. What could that part mean? Maybe this person will tweet something else with more clarity. Soon we will see more of Wade's associates spilling information. I hope he dotted all i's and crossed all t's.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Oh I would never message that punk. He's not worth my time. Just amazed at how pathetic and desperate he is. I wouldn't be surprised if he or someone in his family opened up that support page.

Funny, nobody can write a comment on that page;
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I think it may mean that his mother is now pressing him for answers because she thought Wade Robson was a friend and maybe she is very surprised that Wade is doing this

Maybe that's what she meant but I'm sure we'll find out more in the future

x
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I think it may mean that his mother is now pressing him for answers because she thought Wade Robson was a friend and maybe she is very surprised that Wade is doing this

Maybe that's what she meant but I'm sure we'll find out more in the future

x

Oh that sounds very positive. Could it be that mother can't believe her eyes & ears? Wouldn't it be hilarious if his mother came out and said he is lying.
 
MJJ Fan4321;3834570 said:
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Comment:Que coño hace wade? a mi me contó personalmente que toda esa historia era falsa, madre mia, me ha dejao planchado!

I'd translate it like this: "What the hell/f*ck Wade is doing? He told me personally the whole story was false. My goodness, he astounded me!"

I hope it makes more sense.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

It would be such a blessing if wade's mother came out and said she knows her son and knows that he is lying through his teeth. I actually prayed to our heavenly father that,this would happen. such a blessing this would be.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

This discussion is making me dizzy!

So will WR's mother have to give evidence and will her comments ever come to light?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I'd translate it like this: "What the hell/f*ck Wade is doing? He told me personally the whole story was false. My goodness, he astounded me!"

I hope it makes more sense.

Yes that one makes more sense. I guess "madre mia" is like saying "my goodness" right, so that would make more sense.

What happened in the 1991 case? Wade was the defendant then.
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^How can we find out more about that case? I wonder if there are other instances where Wade sued someone or was brought to court?
 
"Que coño hace wade? a mi me contó personalmente que toda esa historia era falsa, madre mia, me ha dejao planchado"

jamba;3832540 said:
"What the **** is Wade doing? He told me personally that whole story is false, OMG, this has me floored!" That's the better translation --the Bing one is no good--can't handle the slang.

Snow White luvs Peter Pan;3834580 said:
I'd translate it like this: "What the hell/f*ck Wade is doing? He told me personally the whole story was false. My goodness, he astounded me!"


I speak Spanish, and so just to confirm these are the right translations.

"Madre" does mean mother, but here it is use to express shock, disbelief. This person is definitely not talking about Wade's mother.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^I agree those are better translations from Jamba and Snow White Luvs Peter Pan. I speak spanish as well and "Madre mia" is like saying Mother of god. Basically the person is expressing shock!


iane Dimond ?@DiDimond 20h
@wadeRobsonallys You know what? I'm not here to boost readership on your FB page. Really I've done enuf on MJ stories to last a lifetime.
What Diane Dimond says here is true, for like the first time ever lol.

She definitely helped keep these allegations in the headlines for yrs, so she literally don't need anyone's help or for her to help them. THE WITCH! But, funny that she got annoyed by it. She tries so hard to look like she is professional and unbiased in her "work" against MJ, it's so ridiculous!-_-
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^I don't believe her saying she had enough on Michael, I bet as soon as new developments of this f*ckery appear, she'll be the first one to cover it.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

So MJJ Ventures sued Wade in 1991? I wonder why.

I can't see Michael suing a child, so maybe it was some kind of technicality.

Wasn't he involved in helping the Robsons to move to the USA ? (or was it the Barnes family ? )
 
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^Joy said on her testimony Michael sponsored them to live legally in the US.

I don't get that 1991 lawsuit...
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^^Joy said on her testimony Michael sponsored them to live legally in the US.

I don't get that 1991 lawsuit...

Are we sure it's a lawsuit or could it mean he filed papers related to the Robsons ? For ex, papers related to their immigration process, or anything else (employing Wade to work on something for ex).

So MJJ Ventures sued Wade in 1991? I wonder why.

I can't see Michael suing a child, so maybe it was some kind of technicality.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Yes madre mia is just like how us Italians say "mama mia" which is like saying "oh my god"
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

They still have to post 10 posts showing they are a fan before they are upgraded and like I said there is nothing here for their defense. I don't even understand boards thinking like that. What if fan boards would have done that during MJ 2005 trial cutting fans off from information or discussion because prosecution might see it. It isn't necessary .. Don't be worried or afraid :better: I know for fact Mjonline team can and do see as well.

Ok thanks qbee
Didn't know that how the forum works
Good they can't use the forum for their defense
 
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