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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

Mike's about to pop up like a Jackson in the Box, huh?! :lol: Look out!! When that man falls in love, it's serious business!!
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Mike's heart is thumpin'
 
ms fairy said:
I haven't been here in quite some time and I havent had a chance to read all posts given that this thread is pages upon pages now. But from what I read that MJROXWORLD has shared seems to have a lot of truth in it!
There has been only one woman in MJ's life and all the songs are about the 2birds and what they have been put through in the last 25 years. The last 2 messages about 'this is it' and 'the time has come'... are about MJ focused on making it real, the real presence of togetherness ...the where, how and when to make things happen and to make things right and he is determined! Within the next day or two or week or two things will change ...all the surprises and celebrations etc will happen in north america before the tour concerts in London otherwise everything will be postponed or cancelled including the new singles and album, etc. I have faith and belief in MJ and know that he will pop up somewhere soon and everything will be perfect!
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Define 'pop up.' ?

Pop up and announce something, or..??
 
mjroxworld said:
Regarding almost all of the Invincible album, there is a story being told. At the outset, he let's EVERYONE know that NOTHING is going to get him down, with "Unbreakable". "Heartbreaker" seems to be one of those things that shows the power women have and the games that they play with a guy's emotions. You know, reelin' him in and dropping him like no thing. Cruel joke. "Invincible" there's some desperate need for convincing going on. Like, 'I'm the one, just please I beg you, let me in because I can show you how love should really be.' Now, "Break of Dawn", wow. Now that is a powerfully intimate love song. He finally gets to talk to her, it's a continuation of the previous song, in a sense. And is telling her his romantic dreams for them (because it is written in future tense - things he would like to do with her). He also talks about old courtship memories, and how he would like to see their relationship go to a new level, on that is more intimate. "Heaven Can Wait", also beautiful, continues with his telling of just how devoted he is to her. And with "You Rock My World", he's continuing. He also talks about how long he's been waiting for her, the perfect love. "Butterflies" wasn't written by him, but you get a sense of longing, like she is still just out of reach. "Speechless" he's still continuing to pronounce his love for her, still trying to reach her, still trying to tell her how he feels. I won't go into "2000 Watts" because there is so much speculation to the meaning. HOwever, for some reason there is a break with the love songs. Next is "You Are My Life", written for his children, with a possible double meaning that may be aimed at a lady. "Privacy" obviously talks about paparazzi and how much he is hurt and angry. But where'd the lady go? Did she finally come to him? It looks like she did, but they ended up having to separate again, after all. she left, because next is "Don't Walk Away". But once again, he is begging and pleading with her, but they both know there is a reason that she has to leave. Could be, the "Privacy" issue. He's confused, doesn't know what to do, but ultimately tells her he won't forget her even though he knows the separation has to occur. "Cry" and "The Lost Children" are the album's awareness anthems. After that is "Whatever Happens", which seems to go along with "Don't Walk Away" in a weird sense. The couple is afraid, but trying to reassure each other that everything's gong to be alright, even though they've gotten themselves in a bit of a pickle. But at the end, she says, "It's you that makes me happy." So, it is affirmed that he did get her for some amount of time after all, but something has happened that would cause a possible separation. But even through the separation, they're still kind of together. "Threatened" is just too deep for an explanation...it's like a prophecy or something. It's very disturbing, like it's from a nightmare he's had, somewhat disconnected. He talks about monsters, Neverland, judgement, etc. At the end it says "What you have just witnessed could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning." He KNEW something else was afoot. And he was right. And he knew he couldn't drag the love of his life through the hell that was about to happen.

He said a lot with this particular album. But we know that by the end of it, his lady wasn't there. She was gone, probably somewhere safe.

But with later songs, he continues to declare love to her, in a different way than this album. It's more confident and lovely with a sense of togetherness rather than the pleading that is done on Invincible. Now he's really flirting with her, happily and carefree, like two lovebirds, and she's flirting back. They are together in spirit and emotion, just not often physically in the same place. For now that seems to be best.
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awwwwhhhhhhh :wub: :wub: :wub:
 
Message from MJ's New Website

The time has come...the time has come...the time has come...the time has come.

It is now I see and feel that calling once again, to be part of a music that will not just connect but, make all feel one, one in joy, one in pain, one in love, one in service and in conciousness.

-Michael Jackson

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I am truly pleased for Mr.Jackson and the Fans in London...

"Mr.Jackson has "always been" a major force...He just needed to realize to stay "true" to his heart and all the rest is falling right into place..!"

:angel:Smiles~~~
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We know from Michael's lyrics that his lady must represent one, herself. Because his lyrics suggest that she's been in and out of his life for a very long time. But it seems that now she's there to stay. She HAS to have a very strong, independent, free, rebirthing spirit if she is to be his.
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:yes: :yes:!! I've always felt this about her. Always.But she's not too innocent herself, she makes mistakes, as well, as we all do. Sometimes .. he just doesn't see that in her.

MJzPrincess1982 said:
sooo interesting, this song is! :|

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dlR7e6oPeEQ
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MJzPrincess1982 said:
and this one....... total EEK :unsure:!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR7rOaJweck

Listen to it!!!
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is anyone listening to the songs i'm posting .. you might wanna :)
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So the love story continues, as the mystery unfolds. :popcorn:

When Mike is in love, he will push his way through a storm. Did you guys see how he did that and how he was professing his love the whole time? When his mind is made up, he takes love very seriously. Love makes him stronger.

Now look at him. He's gearing up. He's got the world rumbling. When he steps on that stage on night number one, the needle is going to go completely off the Richter scale. And as things start progressing, the scale is going to tip over and fall.

Mike is running on love power, y'all! LOL He gets like this when his heart is thumpin.' If we look back, we will notice that during the time he was shattering all those records, he always had a woman that his mind was on. He's acting like that now.

The way to tell how he's feeling is by listening to the tone of the love songs he's been putting out. Cupid paid him a visit.
 
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One of 7even Signs Angel (s) Are Sending You

By Doreen Virtue

When angels help us through life, sometimes they do so in ways that may not be immediately recognizable to us. They often deliver answers, hints, messages, and warnings through signs--signals, or anomalies in life, which let us know that they're with us.

Signs are repetitive, out of the ordinary, personally meaningful, and timed to coincide with your prayers or questions that you've posed to the Divine. There are two steps to experiencing signs from above: (1) believe in them, and (2) notice them. Amazing life transformations occur when we learn to see and use the messages the angels give us in everyday life, in all situations, big or small.

Music
The angels often send their messages through the sound and power of music. It seems that almost everywhere we go, silence is replaced with music in one form or another. Pay attention, as recurring songs (or a series of songs sharing a theme) are almost always a sign from above. In addition to offering a connection to Heaven, music delivers very direct messages and signs. For instance, the title or lyrics of a song that you hear repetitively offers a chance to receive specific guidance from your angels.

Source: Beliefnet.com

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ms fairy said:
I haven't been here in quite some time and I havent had a chance to read all posts given that this thread is pages upon pages now. But from what I read that MJROXWORLD has shared seems to have a lot of truth in it!
There has been only one woman in MJ's life and all the songs are about the 2birds and what they have been put through in the last 25 years. The last 2 messages about 'this is it' and 'the time has come'... are about MJ focused on making it real, the real presence of togetherness ...the where, how and when to make things happen and to make things right and he is determined! Within the next day or two or week or two things will change ...all the surprises and celebrations etc will happen in north america before the tour concerts in London otherwise everything will be postponed or cancelled including the new singles and album, etc. I have faith and belief in MJ and know that he will pop up somewhere soon and everything will be perfect!
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Hmmm...your post and the words I highlighted made me think about the lyric in 'One More Chance' when MJ sings at the very beginning, "This time, I'm gonna do my best to make it right." So, in harmony with what you have stated, ms fairy, I wish to add that those last 2 messages certainly does imply that he is prepared to set their "togetherness" in motion by bringing this 'love in the dark' to the 'light.' In regard to the where, how and when? Well, with the way he has been smiling all over the place and speaking about his double messages whether they are in the form of singing or talking I say he is expressing "euphoria", which is defined as 'a feeling of happiness, confidence'. His overwhelming joy is present for all to witness due to the fact that, at this point in his life, he has finally achieved complete control over the direction of his career and his plan to live happily ever after.
 
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*waits for explianation of MJs lapel wearings for a while now* MJ must be very in Love!!
 
Wow, this is nice to wake up to. It's been busy in here. :) I don't know if I have anything more to add that hasn't already been said but it's nice to see everyone seems to be on the same path. I liked everything I read from everyone. It's nice to have new input from people who have been quiet before too. I guess we have lots to look forward to seeing and hearing in the next few months. It will be beautiful I think. He is like spring flowers just bursting out of the snow after spending all this time preparing for it underground where we couldn't see. Now he is blossoming. This is his time to shine.
 
In noticing how many songs have certain things in common, has anyone noticed how many things in Remember the Time are repeated in Break of Dawn? :)

I realize people always talk about how RTT is dedicated to Diana Ross and although that may be so, it doesn't necessarily mean that song is about her just as Blood on the Dancefloor is not about Elton John ...
 
I've recently done a torot card reading on Michael.

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Does MJ have a woman and what is their relationship like??​

First card I drew was a 3 of pentacles...
  • Three of Pentacles: A man is working on fixing or creating something, suitable for passerby's eyes and approval. He is a man of success, hard work, nobility(honesty & feedback), and a people pleaser. He is also a man of insight.
  • Chariot: Power, justice and might, this chariot comes with success and great power under it's belt.
  • Ten of Swords, reversed: All swords, troubles/sarrows/trials & attempts, have pierced the attemptor, but it is about to be reversed. His attempts will now become fruitful instead of futile.
  • The star, reversed: Energies scattered and misplaced, but they will soon be put into place and refocused.
  • Knight of Swords: A knight rushes to hurry and rescue his life or his treasure.
  • The devil: 2 people, a male and female, are in bondage to someone much more greater and powerful than themselves. The man offers to save and rescue the woman, they've both been held captive by mortality.
  • Eight of pentacles: A man works hard to prepare for the future, leaving the past discarded to be ignored. The future is much greater than the past.
  • Nine of Pentacles, reversed: A woman is in her garden, enjoying it's fruitfulness and it's freedom, but she cannot because she feels as if she has had false hopes, she has been let down.
  • The hanged man: Having gotten himself into a pickle, and being put into a very uncomfortable situation, this man has been limited. But he does have one great asset, and that is wisdom and strength. He knows the way out, and must now push towards that goal.
Boy, what a parable. :lol:
 
I find the tarot carding reading very interesting! Can we develop questions and does the card reader mind doing another reading for us?
It seems we have come to a general consensus on many things. But with it comes many questions. Have we ever seen him do 5 years of this kind of double messaging or coding before? Why ever since trial he has been acting like this? What laws were put in place to separate them? Obviously he cant go to her so can she go to him? Under these kind of circumstances, conditions where he is behaving like this have you ever seen an album or concert? I have never seen an album come out or an announcement of concerts etc under this kind of situation. I would say they are both going through hell behind the scenes. I dont get the sense that MJ is happy and healthy....more like he is striving towards making it happen.
 
Yes, and can we please include other readers and members post's in too, not just specific members??

Seems like every time I come in here, for the past 3 or so months, the topic is revolving around one, maybe 3, members' posts. Now how fair is that? The topic at hand is MJ and his mystery woman. Can we stop revolving it around certain people's posts, please? I think I would get more into this thread, if that were to happen. :)

MsFairy: I agree. Seems like it is either a spat and THEN an album, or an album and THEN a spat (somehow, between the two)
 
I dont get the impression of a spat between the 2birds not at all. I think they are crazy in love but forced to separate. She was the key surprise defense witness for the trial.
 
I got lots of questions..
MJzPrincess1982 said:
I've recently done a torot card reading on Michael.

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Does MJ have a woman and what is their relationship like??​

First card I drew was a 3 of pentacles...
  • Three of Pentacles: A man is working on fixing or creating something, suitable for passerby's eyes and approval. He is a man of success, hard work, nobility(honesty & feedback), and a people pleaser. He is also a man of insight.
  • Chariot: Power, justice and might, this chariot comes with success and great power under it's belt.
  • Ten of Swords, reversed: All swords, troubles/sarrows/trials & attempts, have pierced the attemptor, but it is about to be reversed. His attempts will now become fruitful instead of futile.
  • The star, reversed: Energies scattered and misplaced, but they will soon be put into place and refocused.
  • Knight of Swords: A knight rushes to hurry and rescue his life or his treasure.
  • The devil: 2 people, a male and female, are in bondage to someone much more greater and powerful than themselves. The man offers to save and rescue the woman, they've both been held captive by mortality.
  • Eight of pentacles: A man works hard to prepare for the future, leaving the past discarded to be ignored. The future is much greater than the past.
  • Nine of Pentacles, reversed: A woman is in her garden, enjoying it's fruitfulness and it's freedom, but she cannot because she feels as if she has had false hopes, she has been let down.
  • The hanged man: Having gotten himself into a pickle, and being put into a very uncomfortable situation, this man has been limited. But he does have one great asset, and that is wisdom and strength. He knows the way out, and must now push towards that goal.
Boy, what a parable. :lol:
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cool.. how does that work? Can you do a reading on them separately? Can you read on just her, and just him? It would be interesting to see more what she is like, if you can do that without knowing her name or who she is. My grandmother used to read tarot cards and she did a reading for me when I was younger, however, I forget what she said...mostly. I was boy crazy back then though and she did mention something that piqued my interest because I thought she was wrong..lol. I don't remember how she did it or if the person had to be there though because she died when I was 14 and I never got to learn much about it.


ms fairy said:
I find the tarot carding reading very interesting! Can we develop questions and does the card reader mind doing another reading for us?
It seems we have come to a general consensus on many things. But with it comes many questions. Have we ever seen him do 5 years of this kind of double messaging or coding before? Why ever since trial he has been acting like this? What laws were put in place to separate them? Obviously he cant go to her so can she go to him? Under these kind of circumstances, conditions where he is behaving like this have you ever seen an album or concert? I have never seen an album come out or an announcement of concerts etc under this kind of situation. I would say they are both going through hell behind the scenes. I dont get the sense that MJ is happy and healthy....more like he is striving towards making it happen.
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What do you mean about the double messaging/coding that we haven't seen before? I just assumed he was always like this..lol. I am still fairly new. How has he been acting that is out of the ordinary? Why couldn't he go to see her? (that isn't obvious to me.. maybe I'm being naive). I do agree and see the same as you with the bolded part.
STATEofSHOCK said:
In noticing how many songs have certain things in common, has anyone noticed how many things in Remember the Time are repeated in Break of Dawn? :)

I realize people always talk about how RTT is dedicated to Diana Ross and although that may be so, it doesn't necessarily mean that song is about her just as Blood on the Dancefloor is not about Elton John ...
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I do see some similarities yes. So either he is similar in his approach to love with whomever he is interested in, or you are thinking it is the same woman? I do see similarities in his description of love, which shows what he likes or what he enjoys doing when in love with someone, at the very least. The one seems to be about someone who he's either been broken up from, or is having troubles with in their relationship and they go back to the beginning to remember why they fell in love, and those feelings. Break of Dawn seems there is no trouble in their relationship. Though the line "I don't know what I'm gonna do, I can't stop loving you." makes me wonder a bit, because why would he say that to someone he is with and in love with. You WANT to keep loving them.. or maybe it's because in her love, maybe he feels he has lost his will power or something, and is lost in her and her love? I don't know. :) There is also the "can't stop loving you" "I just can't stop loving you" reference.

MJzPrincess1982 said:
Yes, and can we please include other readers and members post's in too, not just specific members??

Seems like every time I come in here, for the past 3 or so months, the topic is revolving around one, maybe 3, members' posts. Now how fair is that? The topic at hand is MJ and his mystery woman. Can we stop revolving it around certain people's posts, please? I think I would get more into this thread, if that were to happen. :)

MsFairy: I agree. Seems like it is either a spat and THEN an album, or an album and THEN a spat (somehow, between the two)
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Do you mean about people posting and no one really responding to what is said? I have experienced that as well. It's a different sort of topic though. Sometimes it is just hard to know how to respond to something. I had listened both times to the songs you had posted. I just wasn't sure what you meant by them. For myself, I respond when I feel like I have something worth saying.. (actually sometimes I just respond..lol.. just because I feel like it.. ) sometimes I don't know what to say. What do you mean by "a spat"? How does it feel lik,...oh do you mean it seems like in the past it has been a spat and then an album? How can you know this though? How do you see this time being?
 
^^Ape I would love to do a reading on her :) And what my last post stated was... I've been told before that this ONE thread belongs to just ONE person. That is so not true. Far from it. If anything, this thread belongs to MICHAEL.
 
More about MJ's Romantic interest:​

  • Magician reversed: She is some form or sort of healer. She really believes in herself and that she can help others.
  • 4 of Wands: She had a harmonious upbringing, one of happiness and humbleness. She was happy growing up.
  • 3 of Pentacles: She despises pride, she is very humble at heart and is NOT a show off nor does she seek approval from people. (this card can also mean weakness, reversed)
  • King of Cups reversed: This card is a card representing either a man in her life or a trait. Since it is reversed, I am gonna take it to mean that she is very set in her ways. She already knows what she wants and she will fight for her rights.
  • The Chariot reversed: This card originally resembles warrior and strength, but since it is reversed, it shows that she has had a great battle and often fights in her life.
  • Seven of Wands: First instinct I got of this card is that she is the type to tell people what she thinks of them, she will not hesitate to share her feelings and thoughts on what she knows or what she has learned (not negative, remember..she is a good warrior), she is an upfront and close/personal person. She does not like to use others to start wars or fights, for she is perfectly capable of fighting her own battles (or so she thinks).
  • 9 of Swords: She is a very sensitive person. She mourns for people, she is a prayer warrior. She intercessors for people in the middle of turmoil. And she, too, has suffered many losses and great sadness.
 
I think the thread starter probably has some claim, but after the initial bit, a thread becomes a part of all who respond to it(and read it for that matter). Much like in my eyes, this forum belongs initially to the owner, but even moreso to all who contribute to it. So I think this thread belongs to all of us, and in some way, to Michael and his lady. We all have important things to contribute and I like when more of us do, even if I personally may not respond to each post (which would be silly for me to do anyways) I appreciate and enjoy reading each post from each person. I think some will see things that others miss and it is nice to hear what everyone thinks on the topic who has thoughts about it.

MJzPrincess, could you please share it with us when you do one on her? Edit: I just see you have.. going to read it now :) (I'm excited..lol)

Thank you :)
 
After reading that last reading I did it dawned on me... she is the owner of her own soul. She knows this.. And MJ realllly desires to protect and nurture her. I am sure that she is FINE and down with that. But she is a very independant woman, one who will not be told what to do..

Ohhh Michael, :lol: I can see why sometimes they bump heads :lol:!
 
wow....... I want to hear more..

That is amazing. When did you learn to do this? How does it work? (sorry for many questions.. it's really fascinating though.)

She sounds good :) and very human. It's nice to see. I hope you are correct, at least on most. It seems very accurate with MJ's for sure, from what we see.
 
If she is a healer, then perhaps that is how they ended up finding each other. He also seems to want to save and help people. Maybe she came (and it would correspond and back up the songs) at the right time for him to help him in the struggles he was facing. Especially if we go with the theory of the start when it was around the time that he had this last terrible atrocity to go through. Very interesting that though they seem to have similarities, they have had differences as well (according to your reading) Actually they seem VERY similar. What you wrote about her, could be applied to him I think, other than POSSIBLY the happy childhood. Though he did seem like a happy child too.
 
*singing* "Once I had a secret love....." :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry, I can't stop singing that Doris Day song when ever I see this thread! :lol:

Ape, didn't we already come to the conclusion you're MJ's secret lover? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Ya know....I told ya he is gonna go on the "Honeymoon Tour"!! :lol: :lol: And now he is coming to London for concerts!! I told ya!! I told ya!!! Get yo' wedding dress ready girl! :toofunny: :toofunny: I'm just kidding! :lol: :lol:

Offtopic: I want a tarot reading toooooooo!!! :D MJzPrincess, can you do one for me? That's fun!!
 
:lol: Okay..

I drew the six of Swords. To me that resembles her leaving her old life for a new one. She has either moved herself, physically, or maybe even changed herself, in some way, to please Michael.

Which brings me to my final card: The Fool. It was foolsh of her to do so, to change herself for him, because it brought about folly. It was not wise. She fallowed him somewhere, he took control, and somehow got them into trouble (read above, where I stated that he and her were in bondage). And also according to my previous readings about their relationship, they do break free because he is preparing himself and his life for THEIR future, Right now, this very second. :)

Ape: What I get is that they have VERY similar motives and goals but their personalities tend to clash. They both HATE being told what to do and having other ppl control them but they both LOVE to give charity and themselves to help others. That is the perfect union, IMO, one that is deep, spiritual, and abounding in love. They do not want to hide themselves, but to share. It's just hard, sometimes, to do just that.
 
Focus your eyes on the things above, and not on the things of this world.

Word of God speak, let it pour down like rain, please let me stay and rest in your holiness.

Let me rest, let me be content, God is in control, and Michael is heaven-sent.

Pure happiness, real joy, true peace, all comes with a price. Jesus says in this world there will be tribulation, and persecution for His name. But in the midst is peace and contentment, even through hardship.

*sigh* I am content, I am resting, in the faithfulness of His Word. May Michael also be in rest and peace in all that has transpired. His joy is my joy, his love is my love, his burden is my burden, his shoes are my shoes.

I'm thinking out loud. Don't try to understand.
 
ms fairy said:
I dont get the impression of a spat between the 2birds not at all. I think they are crazy in love but forced to separate. She was the key surprise defense witness for the trial.
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lol

Remember the song DON'T WALK AWAY? Boy, there be some SPATTING in that song! To the point to where she just about gave up and walked out on the whole thing!

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summer said:
*singing* "Once I had a secret love....." :lol: :lol: :lol: Sorry, I can't stop singing that Doris Day song when ever I see this thread! :lol:

Ape, didn't we already come to the conclusion you're MJ's secret lover? :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: Ya know....I told ya he is gonna go on the "Honeymoon Tour"!! :lol: :lol: And now he is coming to London for concerts!! I told ya!! I told ya!!! Get yo' wedding dress ready girl! :toofunny: :toofunny: I'm just kidding! :lol: :lol:

Offtopic: I want a tarot reading toooooooo!!! :D MJzPrincess, can you do one for me? That's fun!!
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:lmao: yeah You AND my daughter both.. hahaha. Teases and jokers... tsk tsk.. but it was a funny fun conversation. OH! You have to read my reply poem to your poem. It's good I think.

And YOU just want the tarot card reading to prove it's YOU who's the secret lover. Poor MJ is going to be like that movie with the groom running away from all the brides dressed in wedding dresses. (I can't remember the movie, I was trying to find a photo to post)

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:lol: Okay..

I drew the six of Swords. To me that resembles her leaving her old life for a new one. She has either moved herself, physically, or maybe even changed herself, in some way, to please Michael.

Which brings me to my final card: The Fool. It was foolsh of her to do so, to change herself for him, because it brought about folly. It was not wise. She fallowed him somewhere, he took control, and somehow got them into trouble (read above, where I stated that he and her were in bondage). And also according to my previous readings about their relationship, they do break free because he is preparing himself and his life for THEIR future, Right now, this very second. :)

Ape: What I get is that they have VERY similar motives and goals but their personalities tend to clash. They both HATE being told what to do and having other ppl control them but they both LOVE to give charity and themselves to help others. That is the perfect union, IMO, one that is deep, spiritual, and abounding in love. They do not want to hide themselves, but to share. It's just hard, sometimes, to do just that.
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hmm interesting. How many readings can you do about something? Are you supposed to not do too many?

Can you do requests like how Summer asked? It would be interesting to see how accurate they are when applied to ourselves to see for certain. (If you want to, I'd be interested to have one done for me, IF you don't mind). Though it really does FEEL like more than just coincidence, the cards you've picked.
 
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