Ashtanga
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Hi there, cute Ash.
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I like the way the words are "the rest of 'your' life instead of the rest of 'my' life." Sweet.
Yes, this is so romantic and deep. :heart:
Hi there, cute Ash.
I like the way the words are "the rest of 'your' life instead of the rest of 'my' life." Sweet.
I like the way the words are "the rest of 'your' life instead of the rest of 'my' life." Sweet.
Yes, the song I posted is Every Breath You Take. I thought it was amusing that the one commenter took it as sounding like a stalker, but I didn't view it that way at all. I thought the lyrics and perspective of the male is romantic and caring, and most of all, very sure she's the one.
These lyrics:
Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace
I dream at night, I can only see your face
I look around but it's you I can't replace
I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
I keep calling baby, baby please...
Oh can't you see
You belong to me
How my poor heart aches
With every step you take
The words that kept sticking with me and playing over in my mind are, "Can't you see, you belong to me." It's like he can't understand how he and she are somehow not together when it is so clear to him they belong, and that message MJ used a lot in his songs. Can't Stop Loving You comes to mind, "I just can't hold on, I feel we belong."
And this guy's heart is aching "with every step she takes" meaning every moment she is living her life not by his side. Sounds like the guy tries at times to ignore his string feeling that they "belong" and move on with his life but the line, "I look around but it's you I can't replace" tells me that has become not an option for him anymore. He's convinced it's got to be him and her. Kinda like that other song I posted, "If I can't have You, I don't want nobody, Baby."
So should the girl be weirded out that this uy has her so on his mind, and that he is "watching her" as she lives her life away from him? If she is sure he is not the one for her, than yes, I would guess she would be, but if she feels a connection with him, wouldn't she like the feeling that he sees her as belonging to him? Would the LITD girl have liked picking up on that feeling from MJ?
Sting's frustration in that song, and perhaps MJ's frustration in many of his songs, quite a few we have discussed in here as it applies to him and his LITD girl (if she really does exist), both seem to indicate that men can feel this way about someone they love and for some reason are not with.
This song is quite poetic. But the meaning behind these words here is so lovely:
I never made promises lightly
And there have been some that I've broken
But I swear in the days still left
We'll walk in the fields of gold
It would have applied so nicely if MJ ad his LITD girl had been able to get together at the end of their lives and made up for all the years that they couldn't be together. Redeeming. A sweet, sweet promise. If this truly had been a promise of MJ's to her, and that message could have reached her before he died.. how that would have touched her heart I should think.
Well, we all know this thread has been bitter-sweet since that sad day in June back in '09. We may enjoy talking/speculating about he and his LITD girl, but it's not easy when there can be no happy ending. I think when we all got initially caught up in this thread we were counting on a happy ending, but...MP said::boohoo:
mysterygirl7;3429867 said:There's one song on Invincible, where MJ sings: "So how does it seem that you aint checking on me..?" any idea what that could mean..
Shila said:It seems MJ did at times state some promises to "her" (or whoever the love interest was in the song fictional or not) in some of his songs. Can you guys think of some lyrcs like that?
Ape said:[CHORUS]
Now some way I’ll have to prove all that I said I would doSomeday he will have to make good on all those promises. I guess he's made a lot if you look at all those songs. Some way he'll have to prove it all
Giving you everything, fulfilling your fantasyThis at first glance looks like he thinks he's going to have to give her things and do everything for her so she'll finally come to him but maybe because he knows he is what she needs (like that sting stalker song just talked about, with a new take on it) that he will be every fantasy she's ever had because he is the one for her.
Then maybe you’ll change your mind and finally get it in timeThen maybe finally she would see that it is HE who is the one for her before he gives up.
Then I’ll be showing you what other men are supposed to do for you my babyThen he'll be to her what she needs and should have that she isn't getting from other men.
Ape said:But girl you just won’t approve of the things that I do
When all I do is for you but still you say it ain’t cool
I don't know how this fits. Maybe he feels she isn't responding because he thinks she feels all he's doing doesn't turn her crank..lol. She's not interested in him even though all he does is for her. She isn't taking an interest in the music, in the dancing, in the entertaining. Like a peacock strutting his stuff for one woman to see and take notice, and turn towards him and SEE him, yet she hasn't. Oh Man! Can you IMAGINE if this is how it was for him? If he was doing all of this for HER, this soul mate/dream woman to stop what she is doing in her life and just take notice of him when the WHOLE WORLD was taking notice. Yet she didn't? How frustrating that would be.
Ape;3430010 said:Just a guess but maybe he was expecting her to be curious about him and she's not. She's not looking for him or searching for him. (?) That's what it sounds like to me.
BUT.. I was just reading the lyrics and this thought popped into mind...
It sounds like he doesn't know this lady well otherwise why would he say "IF there's somebody else". Because if he knew her well he would know whether there was someone else or not.
Good point!
So one of the theories in here is that he had this muse or a dream of someone or wish of someone. Maybe an imaginary woman? Someone he prayed for (I think it was said) and maybe this is about that.
If I could tear down these walls that keep you and I apart
I know I could claim your heart and our perfect love will startSo it works here. He's trying to get through the walls between them so in this theory, it sounds like he is doing all these public things that anyone could see if they just look, (as we have) travelling the world, singing these songs to try to find this woman so she can see him and recognise him as her soul mate perhaps? Then their perfect love could start. If they could just get together with no wall between them, this could happen. Sounds like a desperate frustration "if I could just.." "then..."
But girl you just won’t approve of the things that I do
When all I do is for you but still you say it ain’t cool
I don't know how this fits. Maybe he feels she isn't responding because he thinks she feels all he's doing doesn't turn her crank..lol. She's not interested in him even though all he does is for her. She isn't taking an interest in the music, in the dancing, in the entertaining. Like a peacock strutting his stuff for one woman to see and take notice, and turn towards him and SEE him, yet she hasn't. Oh Man! Can you IMAGINE if this is how it was for him? If he was doing all of this for HER, this soul mate/dream woman to stop what she is doing in her life and just take notice of him when the WHOLE WORLD was taking notice. Yet she didn't? How frustrating that would be.
If there’s somebody else, he can’t love you like me
And he says he’ll treat you well, he can’t treat you like me
And he’s buying diamonds and pearls, he can’t do it like meWell. if he doesn't know who it is or what she is doing, but knows she is out there, then maybe there is some other man but he KNOWS that no matter what they do for her, they can't do it for her like he could because he just knows how they would be together and no one could hold a match to him for her. He is unique and no, no one could do it like him even if this does sound cocky. lol I like it. This side of him. It's good. He sees his worth.
And he’s talking you all across the world, he can’t trick you like meWell well well.. he is a trickster isn't he? I guess it shows his playful side? But why is tricking important here? Any answers? I don't know...
[CHORUS]
So why ain’t you feelin’ me, she’s invincible
But I can do anything, she’s invincible
Even when I beg and plead, she’s invincible
Girl won’t give in to me, she’s invincible
She's invincible...
Now many times I’ve told you of all the things I would doMany times through song? If she actually caught on that he's talking to "her" whomever "her" is. If he doesn't even know WHO it is than how could she know?
But I cant seem to get through no matter how I try toThe one just isn't there, time and again. She hasn't responded to all his peacock feathers dancing around trying to grab her attention.
So tell me how does it seem that you ain’t checking for meWhy isn't she there searching for him the way he searches for her?Why has she not noticed and why ISN'T she curious about him the way he is of her and why isn't she checking, looking, finding him?
When I know that I could be more than you could ever dreamWhen he KNOWS he is what she needs and dreams and desires. He knows he is what is missing in her life that no man can fill. Cause they "can't do it like (him)"
If there’s somebody else, he can’t love you like me
And he says he’ll treat you well, he can’t treat you like me
And he’s buying diamonds and pearls, he can’t do it like me
And he’s talking you all across the world, he can’t trick you like me
yeah.. same as above. That trickster ..lol
[CHORUS]
Now some way I’ll have to prove all that I said I would doSomeday he will have to make good on all those promises. I guess he's made a lot if you look at all those songs. Some way he'll have to prove it all
Giving you everything, fulfilling your fantasyThis at first glance looks like he thinks he's going to have to give her things and do everything for her so she'll finally come to him but maybe because he knows he is what she needs (like that sting stalker song just talked about, with a new take on it) that he will be every fantasy she's ever had because he is the one for her.
Then maybe you’ll change your mind and finally get it in timeThen maybe finally she would see that it is HE who is the one for her before he gives up.
Then I’ll be showing you what other men are supposed to do for you my babyThen he'll be to her what she needs and should have that she isn't getting from other men.
Hmmm... too much out on a limb here? Imagine if that really was how it is for him. Wow. Yeah I know I've got a good imagination, but just imagine for a minute that is what all this was about. If he were doing all of this for her ("it's all for love L-O-V-E love"), to find her and have her notice him so they could finally be together and move on in their lives together as he knows they should be? But if she was looking for the man (her soul mate, and dream man) and not the celebrity, then maybe all the fancy plumage was just getting in the way and made it harder for her to see? ...but taking this thread into consideration, maybe they finally did find each other, and maybe (I know, so many maybes) if the hoaxers are correct and he is still alive (sorry people, I know this is a sensitive topic and I do apologise but I'm just going with a flow of thought here..) maybe he had no reason to continue the celebrity status if it was all for her anyways. Maybe they are off together enjoying life right now. (one can dream)
There was a rap part too, wasn't there?
No one seems to agree on how that goes so I'll put what some say it is and put what I hear in as well.
Yo' mami,stop the ______? I'm real with mine
All the things that I promised,I'll fulfill in time
Change and the grace,you've got the will to shine
So many trips,you'll have jet lag and still be fine
He can trick,but his money ain't long enough
He can spit,but his game ain't strong enough
Now the way you're resisting,this ain't cool it's like
nothing seems to work she's invincible
I got a phone call in the middle of this so I kinda lost my groove (if there ever was one). The rap sounds like he's taking her through a whole lotta stuff but he knows she'll be fine. But she resists. Cause she's invincible. Sheeesh, what a woman. Just stop your stuff already and look at this man who's sweating blood and tears for you. lol
But really, I like this song because he's just so confident in it,
ME TOO, that's the best things about this song!! He believes in him!!!
even though he sounds frustrated by it... but actually, maybe it sounds like he's alright with that. Probably wouldn't have had it any other way. If things came too easy... not appreciated the same. If you have to fight for something, you cherish it.
Ape said:Well well well.. he is a trickster isn't he? I guess it shows his playful side? But why is tricking important here? Any answers? I don't know...And he’s talking you all across the world, he can’t trick you like me
He can trick, but his money ain't long enough
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Oh yeahhhhh. Look at the size of that bee!
Hey, I'm there too on the left or all around his head I guess if you use my actual name. lol.
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NOW.... I'm just an observer here... :shifty:
hehehe but you ARE there Shila! just my butts too big and it hides you
Noooooooooooooooooo. Don't JUST observe. No fair!
Moving it around to a place with no name.. all that.
What would it take, Ash, for you to feel the magic in this thread again?Ash said:The magic is over. *big sigh*
What would it take, Ash, for you to feel the magic in this thread again?
Have Michael back....
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Thanxs lorraine sweetheart
huggs to everyone here x
i ment to quote you , ashtanga, and set off a chain of huggs but im lost when it comes to threads now x
Awwww. *sniff*Ash said:Oh God.... I feel so much miss him. :sad: *big sigh*
Awwww. *sniff*
Hi to all in this little lovely love in the dark thread! *waves* Just wanted to let you know why I haven't been postin'. My husband is back home with us now and I am busy with helping him convalesce. Lots to do surrounding that. He will be starting physical therapy down here now three times a week, as well...we just need to get the paper work squared away.
So blessings to all. Sorry this thread is so sad for some. But we can't change reality; and only God can help us in it. raying
8701girl!! Hey nice to see you again. I am hanging out in here today because I took a day off work. I'm making a mess of it. Moving it around to a place with no name.. all that.
Hi 8701girl! :hug: