Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

[Ashtanga]

Thanks for listening and commenting on it. I'll have to share all the responses with her.

Ape, I'd love to hear her singing some song from Michael. :yes: Send this message to her. lol!

I had a dream last night about the kids, MJ's kids.

The three angels..... :wub:

I was curious about his dream, but if you do not want to share, ok.

 

[Ape]

I can share I just wasn't sure anyone would be interested and I figured I may have used my quota up for sharing things that might not fit in this thread.

I have to try to remember it but basically my kids and I were visiting a house that was very big (I don't know why we were there) and public. I noticed the kids there and thought "I wonder if that's them" and then my middle daughter asked Prince for an autograph. I didn't want her to so I kind of tried to hush her, but he was nice and gave her one anyways. I thought it looked like they really didn't want to be noticed as anything other than regular kids, so I treated them as regular kids and went about our day together. I was talking with my kids and Paris was close so I smiled at her (she was a bit younger than she is now though). I kept noticing them looking at us together as a family and I felt really bad for them. It seemed Paris was looking longingly at my daughter and I talking and playing. I suddenly felt my heart go out to her without a mom in her life (though I guess she has many moms in her life). I just felt like she really wished she had a mom. The boys seemed mostly alright. It was just a quiet contemplative moment for Paris, in my dream. I felt bad for her because in the dream I knew exactly how she was feeling, like I could read her thoughts. So I started talking to them and then they kind of all came around. Blanket got a haircut so he was less recognizable. I thought it was smart, but I missed his long hair. Prince was so mature and like the big brother looking after them all. People started to notice them and so I got protective of them like they were my own, and shooed the people off basically. Said they weren't who they thought they were and let them be with us instead of on their own (for some reason they were there alone in the dream... ). The house was like Escher though.. it was all complicated and hard to move around. We were walking on the upside down part of the stairs to get places. Things were mostly calm. I talked with them about their dad and how they miss him. I felt sorrow from them. Paris seemed particularly vulnerable and I just wanted to show her love like a mom as I do with my kids. The boys were sad, but playful too and more stand offish with me, but still happy to be with us. It was like our family just got bigger.

When I told my kids about the dream after I picked them up from school, my daughter said "that's cool mom because Angel's are like guardians, and you were like their guardian angel. (my name is Angel for anyone who doesn't know)"

It was just one of those dreams that sticks with you and feels real. Then I had a nap today and Michael was in it in an absent kind of way. That was much too Escher-like to be able to explain though.. Somewhat Abstract, but also very confusing to follow. Also had the stairs that were supposed to be the underside of the regular ones. I was trapped by someone, and trying to get away. I was in a closet, and the closet led to another room. A huge secret room that I tried to hide in and found the weird stairs so I had to climb, and jump over something on every flight. It led to some weird work out like place. I don't know.. I don't really remember it anymore.

 

[Safira]

That's an interesting interpretation Safira. It'd different than what I saw.

I had a dream last night about the kids, MJ's kids.

So what was your interpretation? I'm always totally dramatic when I interpret so maybe you have a more down-to-earth version? ^^

and what was the dream about, im interested.

 

[Ape]

Oh the dream is just above your post . I think probably my version is even less down to earth, as you say. But it will take more time to write out than I have right now and isn't completely explainable I think.. but I could try.

 

[8701girl]

I have to try to remember it but basically my kids and I were visiting a house that was very big (I don't know why we were there) and public. I noticed the kids there and thought "I wonder if that's them" and then my middle daughter asked Prince for an autograph. I didn't want her to so I kind of tried to hush her, but he was nice and gave her one anyways. I thought it looked like they really didn't want to be noticed as anything other than regular kids, so I treated them as regular kids and went about our day together. I was talking with my kids and Paris was close so I smiled at her (she was a bit younger than she is now though). I kept noticing them looking at us together as a family and I felt really bad for them. It seemed Paris was looking longingly at my daughter and I talking and playing. I suddenly felt my heart go out to her without a mom in her life (though I guess she has many moms in her life). I just felt like she really wished she had a mom. The boys seemed mostly alright. It was just a quiet contemplative moment for Paris, in my dream. I felt bad for her because in the dream I knew exactly how she was feeling, like I could read her thoughts. So I started talking to them and then they kind of all came around. Blanket got a haircut so he was less recognizable. I thought it was smart, but I missed his long hair. Prince was so mature and like the big brother looking after them all. People started to notice them and so I got protective of them like they were my own, and shooed the people off basically. Said they weren't who they thought they were and let them be with us instead of on their own (for some reason they were there alone in the dream... ). The house was like Escher though.. it was all complicated and hard to move around. We were walking on the upside down part of the stairs to get places. Things were mostly calm. I talked with them about their dad and how they miss him. I felt sorrow from them. Paris seemed particularly vulnerable and I just wanted to show her love like a mom as I do with my kids. The boys were sad, but playful too and more stand offish with me, but still happy to be with us. It was like our family just got bigger.

When I told my kids about the dream after I picked them up from school, my daughter said "that's cool mom because Angel's are like guardians, and you were like their guardian angel. (my name is Angel for anyone who doesn't know)"

I feel for paris

Like u said theres plenty of mother like figures in her life that she can turn 2 ( well i hope there are), but theres nothing like a mothers love to guide a girl through life.

 

[Ape]

Well, maybe it's just a dream too and they aren't feeling anything like that. I hope anyways.

 

[Joyce]

What a lovely voice. I know you are proud Ape.

 

[MysteriousPhoenix]

MP, she's 15. I am 34. I had her pretty young.

Ah, I see. I knew she was a teen, but I still couln't wrap my head around it for some reason, but the math does work out in the end somehow.

Oh, btw, just so your daughter doesn't get offended,:angel: I just wanted to add that when I said, "that old" I meant "that grown up" as opposed to being a young child or toddler, rather than mean "old" as in "old and decrepit" or somethin' along those lines! lol! She can rest assured that she looks very youthful and pretty.

 

[tha]

Ape, your daughter has a adorable voice! I loved !
Congratulations! :clapping:

 

[Ashtanga]

That Friday/weekend is great for everyone unk:........

And...........


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:angel:



And.... I found the video I was searching for:


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:wub:

 

[Ape]

Oh Yanni!! I haven't thought about him since I was a teenager. My mom used to listen to him and I really loved listening to his music though I think somehow it reminded me of elevator music..still I loved it. Nice and relaxing and emotion filled.

Thank you everyone for all your nice comments about my oldest little one. I am really proud of the beautiful (starting from the inside and moving outward) young lady she is growing up to be.


So.. about my dream, is it just me or did it make it a bit more bothersome that I'd dream that right before all these videos of the kids leaked? Not sure anyone saw them or not but (and I KNOW she's not talking about me..) when Paris said "Monkey please help" and I'm Ape dreaming about helping them... well the coincidence was there to notice. Those are the types of things I tend to take notice of and think...ok does this mean God wants me to pray for them or should I take notice, am I supposed to take some sort of action from afar to stand up for them like get these video places shut down? or what.. It's not that I am delusional thinking, but God has tended to work that way in my life. Subtle things that catch my attention as long as it goes along with His word and teachings. Maybe it isn't as big a deal as it feels it is. My own daughter is right here in my signature. It's just that MJ had done so much to protect their identity and privacy so...

Anyone have thoughts on that? Even if you want to slap sense into me if you feel that's lacking, go on ahead..lol.

 

[No-Body]

Ape, congrats for your daughter, she is truly talented. You have every right to be proud of her. All of you gals (tha, Linda) are truly blessed to have children. Let me wish you all a very happy Mother's day. I look forward to the day when I will have some children of my own; they don't need to be blood related either, I actually don't believe my genes are particularly worth spreading anyhow lol. The trying part though, well that's a whole 'nother issue. :cheeky:

This might sound a bit o/t, but y'all hear me out please. It has to do May 5th 2005. A couple of days ago was the 5th 'anniversary' (if it can be called that) since Michael's defense during the trial began. I say it is not so o/t because I believe beyond his safety, good health and of course love, the most important thing was his good name for which he fought so valiantely for so long. I remember how that particular day was a Palindrome (nope, not any Sarah Palin related syndrome lol) and one so special that I don't how many hundreds of years it's gonna take before something similar happens, so I really thought that was a good sign, not that there was ever any doubt in my mind about the outcome of the trial. And because it was cinco de mayo, Michael wore a beautiful vest and armband which certainly had a Mexican feel to them. Remember these?

What has always amazed me about Michael and what i've admired most about him has been strength and tenacity with which he faced his adversaries. I was simply in awe of his power to endure all of that torture. And even in his darkest days, he managed to shine ever so brightly. It is said that in the lowest depth of human frailty and suffering, God shines the brightest. It certainly was true for Michael, as this next picture proves. It was taken on one of them days when he returned from one of the many hospital visits he made during that time, poor darling.

I would actually like to take this opportunity to thank the entire defense team and the witnesses on Michael's behalf who have been there for him. We owe them and of course the good Lord the freedom he enjoyed after that ordeal - the brilliant Thomas Messereau (for all his dedication and faith in Michael), Susan Yu (in spite of her apparent silence she was a solid member of that team), Robert Sanger (whom I admired for his work against the death penalty and of course the work during the trial), Mark Geragos (for all the evidence he gathered and his testimony), Brian Oxman (even when he managed to anger the T-Mez), all the detectives and the people involved in jury deliberation – God bless them all and their loved ones.

It really pains me soooo much when i think of all the grief Michael endured because of his innocent love for children. He simply cared and loved from the heart – his own little angels (first picture) and everyone else's. I haven't yet seen the videos Angel mentioned, but i feel kinda strange and guilty about it, as though i am invading their privacy. I've always felt Michael's children were such a sacred and private part of his life, one that brought him immense joy. God bless them and protect them always, God bless them abundantly.

And be4 the o/t guards catch me, I better return to the subject of the thread. How bout some Mexican flavor since 5 de mayo passed us by – will Antonio Banderas' Desperado do? I know Antonio is Spanish, he comes from Málaga, same town as Picasso (whose full name I just found out is Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Martyr Patricio Clito Ruíz y Picasso Lopez - oh my, y'all try to read that in one breath looool), but Salma Hayek is Mexican plus the movie is set in Mexico, is it not?



Thanks so much Ash for all them wonderful links. :bow: You know i love me some Kirk Franklin, Ms. Keys is my gal and I hear the Roxette song on the radio all the time, so you really got me with all of them lol.

God bless you everyone.

 

[MysteriousPhoenix]

... Michael wore a beautiful vest and armband which certainly had a Mexican feel to them. Remember these?

Yes. The vest and arm band were based on a Mexican style of shawl known as a serape. Beautiful!

 

[Ashtanga]

Ape, congrats for your daughter, she is truly talented. You have every right to be proud of her. All of you gals (tha, Linda) are truly blessed to have children. Let me wish you all a very happy Mother's day. I look forward to the day when I will have some children of my own; they don't need to be blood related either, I actually don't believe my genes are particularly worth spreading anyhow lol. The trying part though, well that's a whole 'nother issue. :cheeky:

This might sound a bit o/t, but y'all hear me out please. It has to do May 5th 2005. A couple of days ago was the 5th 'anniversary' (if it can be called that) since Michael's defense during the trial began. I say it is not so o/t because I believe beyond his safety, good health and of course love, the most important thing was his good name for which he fought so valiantely for so long. I remember how that particular day was a Palindrome (nope, not any Sarah Palin related syndrome lol) and one so special that I don't how many hundreds of years it's gonna take before something similar happens, so I really thought that was a good sign, not that there was ever any doubt in my mind about the outcome of the trial. And because it was cinco de mayo, Michael wore a beautiful vest and armband which certainly had a Mexican feel to them. Remember these?

What has always amazed me about Michael and what i've admired most about him has been strength and tenacity with which he faced his adversaries. I was simply in awe of his power to endure all of that torture. And even in his darkest days, he managed to shine ever so brightly. It is said that in the lowest depth of human frailty and suffering, God shines the brightest. It certainly was true for Michael, as this next picture proves. It was taken on one of them days when he returned from one of the many hospital visits he made during that time, poor darling.

I would actually like to take this opportunity to thank the entire defense team and the witnesses on Michael's behalf who have been there for him. We owe them and of course the good Lord the freedom he enjoyed after that ordeal - the brilliant Thomas Messereau (for all his dedication and faith in Michael), Susan Yu (in spite of her apparent silence she was a solid member of that team), Robert Sanger (whom I admired for his work against the death penalty and of course the work during the trial), Mark Geragos (for all the evidence he gathered and his testimony), Brian Oxman (even when he managed to anger the T-Mez), all the detectives and the people involved in jury deliberation – God bless them all and their loved ones.

It really pains me soooo much when i think of all the grief Michael endured because of his innocent love for children. He simply cared and loved from the heart – his own little angels (first picture) and everyone else's. I haven't yet seen the videos Angel mentioned, but i feel kinda strange and guilty about it, as though i am invading their privacy. I've always felt Michael's children were such a sacred and private part of his life, one that brought him immense joy. God bless them and protect them always, God bless them abundantly.

And be4 the o/t guards catch me, I better return to the subject of the thread. How bout some Mexican flavor since 5 de mayo passed us by – will Antonio Banderas' Desperado do? I know Antonio is Spanish, he comes from Málaga, same town as Picasso (whose full name I just found out is Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Martyr Patricio Clito Ruíz y Picasso Lopez - oh my, y'all try to read that in one breath looool), but Salma Hayek is Mexican plus the movie is set in Mexico, is it not?

Wow :doh:, congratulations on the book. lol! I also want to wish a happy Mothers Day to all mothers and and for women that will soon be mothers. And of course, I wish Ms. Katherine has a great day. :wub:

:wub:



Shabuya, I agree with everything you said on May 5, 2005. :yes: But this is really something I hate to remember that everything Michael did suffer a lot. I can imagine the pain he felt cruel that year. But now it's all over.... *big sigh*


My words are the same as yours, I highlighted in bold in your post, but I want to say I admire the brilliant work that Mesereau did. I really admire this man. This man deserves to always have our respect and gratitude for everything he has done to our beloved Michael. :yes:
Thanks Mesereau! :clapping: (If one day he comes here.... lol! :wild

Thanks so much Ash for all them wonderful links. :bow: You know i love me some Kirk Franklin, Ms. Keys is my gal and I hear the Roxette song on the radio all the time, so you really got me with all of them lol.

God bless you everyone.

It was a time "back to the past." lol! Sometimes it's good to do that. unk: I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks! :cheeky: I also really like Antonio Banderas :wild:... thanks for the video.

Yes. The vest and arm band were based on a Mexican style of shawl known as a serape. Beautiful!

Really? Wow, I do not know. :doh: Thanks for telling. :cheeky:

 

[Ape]

I loved that post Shabuya. Just listening to the song now. I LOVEEEEEEEEE Mehico (Mexico). The song you posted reminds me of it and Michael looks very nice in the photos you posted. I don't remember seeing them before.

I probably shouldn't have looked at the videos, but I did. I just really don't like all the questioning if their grandmother can handle them. They are a family and now she is their only parent and that should be respected. Sometimes I just wish fans would butt out (though I am one, and I also love many of em and appreciate em) so maybe I'm a hypocrite in thinking that since I didn't really butt out myself.

 

[tha]

Shabuya, great post! And thanks for the congratulations for mother's day! Having a child is the greatest blessing that a human can get and don't worry, 'cause the things happen at the right time and you will have a child (from blood or heart) when God thinks is the moment and remember that nothing is impossible to Him! In 2002, I had a health problem and the doctors told me I couldn't have children and....well, well....3 years later I got pregnant! :angel:

And about hard time MJ's trial.....well, Michael is a warrior! He endured all the stones that were thrown into him, his wings were injured and even so he get to fly again! I can imagine that inside him there are still bruised, but God gave to him the power of resistance!

Talking about this is still difficult for me, but I know that is good to do this sometimes 'cause by this way I can see how amazing God is and how grandiose is our angel Michael!

And yes....he was always very well dressed! I always say that he is very stylish and that many clothes and accessories are only good him! That colored vest that he wore made mention to Mexico, yes! Michael was always very attentive to many things and he never lets anything go unchallenged, however simple it may be!

Wow! I wrote a lot! Sorry, guys!

Happy Mother's Day to all mothers here and to your mothers!

Kisses!


Edit: to post this video that always reminds me my mom !

 

[Ape]

Another sweet post Tha and I agree with all you said. (too talked out and tired to add to it but just wanted to say nice post)

 

[Sdeidjs]

This is Absolutely Precious...Giggles~~~

Dedicated to ALL the Children OF The World..!



Love Always~~~

:angel:

 

[8701girl]

As im writing to u all and on my tv "heal the world" is playing. It truly makes me realise that it really is to UP TO US to HEAL this world together, if we dont...who will?


God put us on this earth to do what he cannot and we all are god's children and as hes children, we all must stand together and put an end to the evil that is trying to destroy our world.

 

[Safira]

As im writing to u all and on my tv "heal the world" is playing. It truly makes me realise that it really is to UP TO US to HEAL this world together, if we dont...who will?


God put us on this earth to do what he cannot and we all are god's children and as hes children, we all must stand together and put an end to the evil that is trying to destroy our world.

fantastic that they put Michaels music on TV still! I wish they had an MJ-day on a music channel soon..

 

[8701girl]

fantastic that they put Michaels music on TV still! I wish they had an MJ-day on a music channel soon..

It was actually a taped mj countdown that was on sometime late last yr. I still watch it to this day, the host of it was david gest.

 

[Ashtanga]

Again.... for all mothers, all women who will still be mothers and Mrs. Katherine:


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:wub:

 

[Lainy]

A Mother's Love

There are times when only a Mother's love
Can understand our tears,
Can soothe our disappoints
And calm all of our fears.
There are times when only a Mother's love
Can share the joy we feel
When something we've dreamed about
Quite suddenly is real.

There are times when only a Mother's faith
Can help us on life's way
And inspire in us the confidence
We need from day to day.

For a Mother's heart and a Mother's faith
And a Mother's steadfast love
Were fashioned by the Angels
And sent from God above...

- Author Unknown.

:wub:

and for all women who were presented with the wonderful gift of being a MOM

 

[IxxTreasuredSoulxxI]

thanks for those.

BTW this is MJzPrincess1982. I did the tarot card readings last year about this time HOWDY. I'm back, but with a different username and am VERY interested in this topic. :yes: So anyone interested in my views, just ask

 

[Ashtanga]

A Mother's Love

There are times when only a Mother's love
Can understand our tears,
Can soothe our disappoints
And calm all of our fears.
There are times when only a Mother's love
Can share the joy we feel
When something we've dreamed about
Quite suddenly is real.

There are times when only a Mother's faith
Can help us on life's way
And inspire in us the confidence
We need from day to day.

For a Mother's heart and a Mother's faith
And a Mother's steadfast love
Were fashioned by the Angels
And sent from God above...

- Author Unknown.

:wub:

and for all women who were presented with the wonderful gift of being a MOM

:wub: :wub: :wub:

 

[Ape]

OHhh I remember you treasured soul Yes I'd love to hear what you have to say.

Lully very nice.

 

[No-Body]

Yes. The vest and arm band were based on a Mexican style of shawl known as a serape. Beautiful!

Serape, is that what it's called? Had no idea. I see the site from where u got the pic has got the word mariposa included in it, that's Spanish for butterfly and we all know how much we like those round here, don't we? lol

Wow :doh:, congratulations on the book. lol! I also want to wish a happy Mothers Day to all mothers and and for women that will soon be mothers. And of course, I wish Ms. Katherine has a great day. :wub:

:wub:



Shabuya, I agree with everything you said on May 5, 2005. :yes: But this is really something I hate to remember that everything Michael did suffer a lot. I can imagine the pain he felt cruel that year. But now it's all over.... *big sigh*

You are so right. I really hope Mrs. Jackson had a wonderful day yesterday. She is an amazing example of a wonderful mother, she truly is a rock for the family, God bless her.

The book, eh Ash? Well then, you should be frightened by what this post will contain then, a true novel lolol.

I know what you are saying - I really hate to do this, going back to the days of the trial cause all of that is in past and that's where it belongs, but again – Michael's good name and what he went through for it are mighty important issues.

I loved that post Shabuya. Just listening to the song now. I LOVEEEEEEEEE Mehico (Mexico). The song you posted reminds me of it and Michael looks very nice in the photos you posted. I don't remember seeing them before.

You are most welcome my friend, most welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Shabuya, great post! And thanks for the congratulations for mother's day! Having a child is the greatest blessing that a human can get and don't worry, 'cause the things happen at the right time and you will have a child (from blood or heart) when God thinks is the moment and remember that nothing is impossible to Him! In 2002, I had a health problem and the doctors told me I couldn't have children and....well, well....3 years later I got pregnant! :angel:

And about hard time MJ's trial.....well, Michael is a warrior! He endured all the stones that were thrown into him, his wings were injured and even so he get to fly again! I can imagine that inside him there are still bruised, but God gave to him the power of resistance!

Talking about this is still difficult for me, but I know that is good to do this sometimes 'cause by this way I can see how amazing God is and how grandiose is our angel Michael!

And yes....he was always very well dressed! I always say that he is very stylish and that many clothes and accessories are only good him! That colored vest that he wore made mention to Mexico, yes! Michael was always very attentive to many things and he never lets anything go unchallenged, however simple it may be!

Wow! I wrote a lot! Sorry, guys!

Happy Mother's Day to all mothers here and to your mothers!

Kisses!


Edit: to post this video that always reminds me my mom !

Thanks so much for all your kind words tha. Yes, i know - all things in due time. Amazing what you said about your own experience. God does work in wonderful and mysterious ways. God bless you and your little one.

Wonderful words you said there about Michael. Sooo true

About the vid you posted - i was actually familiar with Andrea's version with Giorgia. Wasn't aware of this one. Thank you.

This is Absolutely Precious...Giggles~~~

Dedicated to ALL the Children OF The World..!



Love Always~~~

:angel:

Oh Sus, thank youuu so much for that, truly beautiful. I was going to listen to some Brahms yesterday, but i ended up finding the time for another couple of composers whose names begin with B as well. There was also an amazing thunderstorm to go along with the music, super experience.

Wonderful poem and pictures from Lully

I wrote enough as i did, but i gotta warn y'all, there is a lottttt more where that came from. Some random stuff that has been on me mind lately. SORRRY for the length.

I've got to thinking about they way in which Michael had to walk a very thin line throughout most of his life between humility and confidence. On the one hand, he was a very wealthy man (and we all know what the good Lord said about camels and needle holes and stuff...) and the most famous man and greatest artist in the world – he had achieved so much, conquered so many peaks of entertainment, all the accolades and the adulation he received the world over. He had every right to be proud of himself. I just heard about Lena Horn passing away and I was reading some of her words about the discrimination she suffered. It was only natural for Michael to be proud of who he was – a beautiful African-American man with the world at his feet.

On the other hand, he never lost his human touch (i was truly impressed to read about him sleeping in some small village in China with them folks there), nor did he take for granted his gifts, as Michael Bearden demonstrated so beautifully in the dvd for the movie. There was a humility he kept, a humbleness which made him realise that in the eyes of God, his fame and his money didn't make him any more important or precious than the now famous lady who scrubs toilets in Harlem or the farmer in Ireland lol. He knew people should not and cannot be used as means, but each and every individual is a purpose in and by him/herself.

There were those who criticized him with regards to the HIStory trailer, they've all said it was one huge show of ego, but i've always considered it one slap in the face and a big, defying challenge sent out to his detractors and the rest of them who tried to bring him down. Not only did that mini movie stirred all the controversy he desired as a means of promoting the album, but I got a feeling it was also a self-assurance exercise to feel once again that people really were on his side in spite of all the vicious actions the years before. I don't wanna get into my own memories about the trailer cause they are inconsequential and it would take evennn further space, but suffice it to say I love the boldness of it all and the location. It was a brilliant, artistic statement the likes of which only Michael could have made.

Then, there were also his huge insecurities – from his adolescence up to his adult years. I really wish he would have had a lot more confidence in himself and would have felt a lot more comfortable in his own skin, and Lord knows I don't mean by that any bleachin' bull. I can only imagine what a devastating and debilitating affect a disease like vitiligo had on the most famous man in the world involved in an industry where image is sooo important. Imagine waking up one morning with spots which not only affect your outter aspect, but also represent an attack on your very identity. It must have been horrible.

I really wish he would have had enough people around him to tell him not only the things he wanted or he needed to hear about his talents and his business acumen only so they can get whatever advantages they sought, but people to tell him he truly was beautiful in AND out – with and without his spots and any other imperfection. What made him truly beautiful was neither what he had or what he did, but who he was – a beautiful soul clothed in a really appealing body. I actually shouldn't be commenting on anyone's insecurities since I have my own 'litany' of issues of this kind, but what's done it's done....

And since I mentioned HIStory before - I still feel this is, alongside Vince of course, his most underrated album. I remember towards the end of the trial there was a Reuters (amazingly enough, if i remember correctly) article about the brilliance of the album and how all the answers to the accusations of 1993 lay there. If in that particular decade Michael had to use his art to express his hurt, anger and frustration at what he had been put through because others made the choice for him and he probably wasn't ready at that point to fight in court, in 2005 he certainly stood his ground and we've seen him walk unafraid and face his adversaries with the utmost dignity and courage, surrounded by the love of his family and everybody else in the world who believed in him.

I really gotta say that during those months I felt the proudest of the man; probably the only other time when I felt any prouder was after watching the movie in the cinema and people applauding at the end of it or in the several public occasions I attended organized in his honor during which people of all ages and races were delighted with his work and embraced his message of love.

The movie has been such a wonderful experience, one that I will treasure forever because it was so wonderful to witness him do what he loved so much, to see him have fun once more with his craft and be, at times, blissfully happy and carefree. I wouldn't say for the longest time cause it wouldn't be true, but for a while after June 25th last year I felt quite guilty about contributing to the demand for tickets and what followed, but i've changed my mind when I realized that he probably would have felt even worse had the tickets not sold in such a record amount (of time) and also when I saw the movie and the joy he got from getting back into it all.

I know i went too o/t already and not to some pleasant memories, but please allow me to go even a bit further. Yesterday was the 60th anniversary of the Schumann declaration – the moment of birth of what now has become the European Union – a 27 member happy family, which like any family, fights from time to time, speaks with different voices, but at the end knows there's nothing more important than going at it together.

Please allow me to take this opportunity to wish all my fellow Europeans a very happy day – it has taken the sacrifice of millions of soldiers (not only of European origin) and many other tens of millions of civilian victims to get where we are now. We managed to involve the entire planet not once, but twice in our conflicts, therefore the peace and the general prosperity (with the occasional exceptions brought about by the economic crisis and local circumstances) that we now enjoy and take for granted must be celebrated and cherished.

What is now becoming a continent of immigrants (not always welcomed properly unfortunately) has also been the origin (sometimes for better, other times for far worse – one need only look to the Native American population and the Aborigenes in Australia and New Zeeland) for many other countries and continents. But in spite of all of that, the “old”continent has also been the source of some of the most amazing works of art and scientific discoveries the world has ever known. It has also been a cradle of Christianity which has not always embraced its big brother, Judaism as it should have and hasn't always payed enough respect to Islam and all other belief systems or lackthereof, but we are struggling to improve. Here's a song to celebrate from the band with the very name, Europe – the final countdown.




And finally to try and make some sort of return on topic, I would like now to post one of my favorite Michael songs ever – Keep the faith. It truly is a gospel gem infused with the passion and soul of that genre; his voice rings so loud you can almost imagine him recording this track. Andrae Crouch's choir, as always, gave an amazing contribution and Siedah Garett and Glen Ballard wrote a wonderful song. As it was the case with Man in the mirror before it, Michael took Keep the faith and made it his.

Remember folks – the power that love has, makes it right, really makes it right.




And a few more great lines I was reminded of recently whilst watching Heal the world –

...if you want to know why,
there's a love that cannot lie,
love is strong
it only cares for joyful giving.

I think I really went overboard with this one post. Matter of fact, not only do i think so, i know so. My sincerest apologies for the length and the content. It ought to be enough to last for quite some time, but then again........I don't know much, but i've learnt enough to know it's safe to never say never. In any case, goodbye.. .for now. God bless you everyone.

P.S. *Thinks back at what tha wrote about her writing too much and laughs.* I can really be terrible and awful. Sorry everyone. Somebody betta stop my fingers from getin' anywhere near a computer keyboard for a while.

 

[Lainy]

Ash, Ape and Shabuya Thankyou very much. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Ape, her daughter voice's is really lovely.

Shabuya, great post. It's always very nice reading your posts.

I really wish he would have had enough people around him to tell him not only the things he wanted or he needed to hear about his talents and his business acumen only so they can get whatever advantages they sought, but people to tell him he truly was beautiful in AND out. – with and without his spots and any other imperfection. What made him truly beautiful was neither what he had or what he did, but who he was – a beautiful soul clothed in a really appealing body. I actually shouldn't be commenting on anyone's insecurities since I have my own 'litany' of issues of this kind, but what's done it's done....

:clapping: I wholeheartedly agree. Wise words, thankyou so much.

 

[Ashtanga]

You are so right. I really hope Mrs. Jackson had a wonderful day yesterday. She is an amazing example of a wonderful mother, she truly is a rock for the family, God bless her.

The book, eh Ash? Well then, you should be frightened by what this post will contain then, a true novel lolol.

I know what you are saying - I really hate to do this, going back to the days of the trial cause all of that is in past and that's where it belongs, but again – Michael's good name and what he went through for it are mighty important issues.

Katie is a great woman/mother and yesterday I thought about her a lot. I also hope she has had a wonderful day. :wub:


Yes, sometimes it is very hard to return to the past, but in this case, in 2005, it is very painful for us. We all feel all the pain along with Michael. We suffer and we pray together with Michael. Fortunately, Michael was victorious in the end. 2005 will go down in the past forever. This past, I will never go back.

I wrote enough as i did, but i gotta warn y'all, there is a lottttt more where that came from. Some random stuff that has been on me mind lately. SORRRY for the length.

I've got to thinking about they way in which Michael had to walk a very thin line throughout most of his life between humility and confidence. On the one hand, he was a very wealthy man (and we all know what the good Lord said about camels and needle holes and stuff...) and the most famous man and greatest artist in the world – he had achieved so much, conquered so many peaks of entertainment, all the accolades and the adulation he received the world over. He had every right to be proud of himself. I just heard about Lena Horn passing away and I was reading some of her words about the discrimination she suffered. It was only natural for Michael to be proud of who he was – a beautiful African-American man with the world at his feet.

On the other hand, he never lost his human touch (i was truly impressed to read about him sleeping in some small village in China with them folks there), nor did he take for granted his gifts, as Michael Bearden demonstrated so beautifully in the dvd for the movie. There was a humility he kept, a humbleness which made him realise that in the eyes of God, his fame and his money didn't make him any more important or precious than the now famous lady who scrubs toilets in Harlem or the farmer in Ireland lol. He knew people should not and cannot be used as means, but each and every individual is a purpose in and by him/herself.

There were those who criticized him with regards to the HIStory trailer, they've all said it was one huge show of ego, but i've always considered it one slap in the face and a big, defying challenge sent out to his detractors and the rest of them who tried to bring him down. Not only did that mini movie stirred all the controversy he desired as a means of promoting the album, but I got a feeling it was also a self-assurance exercise to feel once again that people really were on his side in spite of all the vicious actions the years before. I don't wanna get into my own memories about the trailer cause they are inconsequential and it would take evennn further space, but suffice it to say I love the boldness of it all and the location. It was a brilliant, artistic statement the likes of which only Michael could have made.

Then, there were also his huge insecurities – from his adolescence up to his adult years. I really wish he would have had a lot more confidence in himself and would have felt a lot more comfortable in his own skin, and Lord knows I don't mean by that any bleachin' bull. I can only imagine what a devastating and debilitating affect a disease like vitiligo had on the most famous man in the world involved in an industry where image is sooo important. Imagine waking up one morning with spots which not only affect your outter aspect, but also represent an attack on your very identity. It must have been horrible.

I really wish he would have had enough people around him to tell him not only the things he wanted or he needed to hear about his talents and his business acumen only so they can get whatever advantages they sought, but people to tell him he truly was beautiful in AND out – with and without his spots and any other imperfection. What made him truly beautiful was neither what he had or what he did, but who he was – a beautiful soul clothed in a really appealing body. I actually shouldn't be commenting on anyone's insecurities since I have my own 'litany' of issues of this kind, but what's done it's done....

And since I mentioned HIStory before - I still feel this is, alongside Vince of course, his most underrated album. I remember towards the end of the trial there was a Reuters (amazingly enough, if i remember correctly) article about the brilliance of the album and how all the answers to the accusations of 1993 lay there. If in that particular decade Michael had to use his art to express his hurt, anger and frustration at what he had been put through because others made the choice for him and he probably wasn't ready at that point to fight in court, in 2005 he certainly stood his ground and we've seen him walk unafraid and face his adversaries with the utmost dignity and courage, surrounded by the love of his family and everybody else in the world who believed in him.

I really gotta say that during those months I felt the proudest of the man; probably the only other time when I felt any prouder was after watching the movie in the cinema and people applauding at the end of it or in the several public occasions I attended organized in his honor during which people of all ages and races were delighted with his work and embraced his message of love.

The movie has been such a wonderful experience, one that I will treasure forever because it was so wonderful to witness him do what he loved so much, to see him have fun once more with his craft and be, at times, blissfully happy and carefree. I wouldn't say for the longest time cause it wouldn't be true, but for a while after June 25th last year I felt quite guilty about contributing to the demand for tickets and what followed, but i've changed my mind when I realized that he probably would have felt even worse had the tickets not sold in such a record amount (of time) and also when I saw the movie and the joy he got from getting back into it all.

I know i went too o/t already and not to some pleasant memories, but please allow me to go even a bit further. Yesterday was the 60th anniversary of the Schumann declaration – the moment of birth of what now has become the European Union – a 27 member happy family, which like any family, fights from time to time, speaks with different voices, but at the end knows there's nothing more important than going at it together.


And finally to try and make some sort of return on topic, I would like now to post one of my favorite Michael songs ever – Keep the faith. It truly is a gospel gem infused with the passion and soul of that genre; his voice rings so loud you can almost imagine him recording this track. Andrae Crouch's choir, as always, gave an amazing contribution and Siedah Garett and Glen Ballard wrote a wonderful song. As it was the case with Man in the mirror before it, Michael took Keep the faith and made it his.

Remember folks – the power that love has, makes it right, really makes it right.




And a few more great lines I was reminded of recently whilst watching Heal the world –

...if you want to know why,
there's a love that cannot lie,
love is strong
it only cares for joyful giving.

I think I really went overboard with this one post. Matter of fact, not only do i think so, i know so. My sincerest apologies for the length and the content. It ought to be enough to last for quite some time, but then again........I don't know much, but i've learnt enough to know it's safe to never say never. In any case, goodbye.. .for now. God bless you everyone.

P.S. *Thinks back at what tha wrote about her writing too much and laughs.* I can really be terrible and awful. Sorry everyone. Somebody betta stop my fingers from getin' anywhere near a computer keyboard for a while.

:clapping:

I love your books and you said everything and a little more... :yes: Thanks!

 

[IxxTreasuredSoulxxI]

Back to the roots of this thread : --> I really believe he had a hidden love still. I think about them lots. I don't think their love was embarassing, anyone listen to Akon's DONT MATTER or Will.I.Am's ONE MORE CHANCE???

You should. Those songs, I believe, really were michael's even though they don't have his name on em