Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

By the way something funny just hit me. :lol: :lol: Made me laugh out loud. :lol: Did you watch the Oprah interview and hear how Kenny said that Michael called him and said "We need fireflies! Fireflies, Kenny!". :lol: :lol: What did he need fireflies for? Because they...."glow in the dark"? :wild: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:

Sorry..I had to! :toofunny:


Meh... it's late, I'm wide awake, bored and lurking so I guess I'll take a crack at this one cuz it won't require a lot of typing on my part. I'm a lazy insomniac. haha

Maybe he needed fireflies becuz it's the closest thing a Pan can get to fairies (Tinkerbell) in the real world? :) Didn't he say something about the shows being an adventure of some sort? Can't remember the direct wording of it right now. But it's a familiar line/idea from a very popular story.


Okay, I'm going back to reading and lurking now ... :p:
 
This is a random thing about what I said concerning my dad growing older and wiser "but back then" - I really mean he's grown calmer and more patient, but back then, he did not comprehend how someone could sit in front of a television and watch anything over and over again, in his behalf, just wanted to say, I was angry just because it was MJ and Diana I'd been watching (two of my "favorite things" since childhood), some know the experience of which I speak...anyway, love my dad and wanted to give him a little more there, not have him be completely misunderstood by my first comment, by chance ...that's all. Oh and he called me up in the early 2000s and apologized for being like that back then too. Yep. Sure did. Thanks for reading.

Summer that was some funny stuff!! Had me laughing out loud..lol.. you're so funny
 
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FIRST I gotta LOL Hahahaha because Summer is trrrrrippin'!!! She is TOO funny!!! Awwww man!!!
:lol: :lol:

Aww omg! wow first it was the number 7, now 12 seems to have a mystery bout it..
Oh very much so!! :yes:

The number twelve was very significant in the final years of Michael's life. It still is even now.

To show you all again...the time of the 12:21 p.m. 911 call aligns with these verses of the Bible.

Revelations 21:12-21.

12 The city wall was broad and high, with twelve gates guarded by twelve angels. And the names of the twelve tribes of Israel were written on the gates.
13 There were three gates on each side—east, north, south, and west.
14 The wall of the city had twelve foundation stones, and on them were written the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 The angel who talked to me held in his hand a gold measuring stick to measure the city, its gates, and its wall.
16 When he measured it, he found it was a square, as wide as it was long. In fact, its length and width and height were each 1,400 miles.
17 Then he measured the walls and found them to be 216 feet thick (according to the human standard used by the angel).
18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city was pure gold, as clear as glass.
19 The wall of the city was built on foundation stones inlaid with twelve precious stones:the first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald,
20 the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst.
21 The twelve gates were made of pearls—each gate from a single pearl! And the main street was pure gold, as clear as glass.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2129257&highlight=twelve#post2129257


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In addition to this, when Michael launched his website MJJSource back during the trial, the first words that he had appear on our computer screens were "The Power Is In Believing."

These words are from his song titled, "Keep The Faith" which just happens to be track #12 on his "Dangerous" album.

In his song "Keep The Faith" he sings a line that says, "Just keep your eyes on the prize."

Not only does this line lead to the Bible, as did many other lines on Michael's "Dangerous" album, but it also makes sense as to why in Moddie777's dream she heard an announcer say "And the winner is Michael Jackson!"

Philippians 3:14
I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me Heavenward in Christ Jesus.


Michael made it! That's what Moddie777's dream is telling us. He won the prize! Heaven is the prize!

No matter what anyone took him through, he kept his faith in God and all of God's promises. He was a very sweet and spiritual person and he did not allow anyone to change this about him.

Signs of just how spiritual he was are still springing up left and right, and it is going to continue on for a while.

This servant of the Lord was working very hard and he had started very early in life. The loving things he put in place are still in place. The things he said are still coming forth.

He was the real deal. He wasn't pretending to be spiritual. He truly was.

He said, "Lies run sprints...Truth runs marathons" and he was not kidding.

Everything he did from being the real deal is continuing on as we speak. Everything that he attached his heart and soul to is still living in his stead. Everything that he put his passion into, we are still feeling. And every word that he wanted heard we are still listening to.

That's what happens when a man of true honor walks the earth. He was just passing through, as we all are, but he clearly left his mark. It is strong and it is positive.

GOSH I love me some Michael Jackson! He is so COOL! Looking forward to seeing "This Is It" in cinema! :D

Hope to see him one day down the road in the city of gold cheesin' and showing his pretty pearly whites as always!

Now about these love songs that he was releasing back to back before he left and the things that he was saying in them...

He said what he wanted to say. He recorded what he wanted heard. Should some of us continue to try to override his words? Of course not. What's the point?

Interviewer: Describe the performance that you put on.

Michael: What I do?

Interviewer: Yes.

Michael: Most of my songs are fast.

Interviewer: I mean, what do you put into it?

Michael: Well, whatever I sing, that's what I really mean. Like I'm singing a song, I don't sing it if I don't mean it.

Before Michael left was he singing about being in love? Yes, he was, and for a thread such as this, the words to "This Is It" fits. We had no idea this would happen. It just happened.

Was Michael planning to fall in love? Maybe not, maybe so. But, falling in love is not something that can be planned anyway. If it could, everyone would probably try to set a schedule, right?

Fortunately, Michael fell in love just in time. What if he didn't?

Verse from "Keep The Faith"

I know that keepin' the faith
Means never givin' up on love

But the power that love has
Has to make it right
Makes it
Makes it right

Hmmm, should we say this verse was a coincidence? The words, "The Power Is In Believing" that he had on MJJSource led right to his song "Keep The Faith" and every word of this song fell in place with what he was doing in his life at the time that he launched his website.
 
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Yeah! When I saw this pic, I remembered this shirt with a locked heart:

michaelshirtchristianau.jpg


Yeah, that was a very interesting shirt. ^^ :) There's a couple of interpretations that could be made about that one. Positive and/or negative...depending on ones perspective? I think he wore that sometime in May, right after that big meeting with his father, AEG and Allgood. That was an interesting week if I remember correctly. Lots of really good and fun pics almost daily or every other day.

Full view of shirt by Paco Chicano (a brand associated with Christian Audigier)

Front:
file_475.jpg

back
file_476.jpg
 
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Summer, you -are- hilarious! Silly girl. Your story, also, about the cute doctor and all these checks you had going...it was lookin' so good, ..and then you find out he has a girlfriend and had to uncheck all those boxes! AAAWW! :( (but you worded it so humorously, I had to laugh)



I'm glad your dad is more patient and you've had a chance to work that one thing through. :) I personally love to watch the same thing over and over again, so I can understand your perspective. Not that I'm saying anything against your dad's view, for I wouldn't want to be accused of judging him, or anyone.
yes, and while I'm not sure what u mean by 'that one thing' (it was the always the only source of consternation for me, although it had its 'degrees' to which it could be carried and sometimes it was off the Rhichter scale, yes he was a bit like an earth quake at times) you're not the only one who is glad. I could tell some stories that could make Joe Jackson look like Ward Cleaver, to me anyway, although he had/has his "Ward Cleaver" side too - he's mostly "Ward" actually, in personality type, especially now that he's older.

I'm just glad God made us in His image although its not always easy to remember that's what we all are, even our parents lol flawed humans though they are, just like us.

Random song dedication to MJ and the DMJFLITD crew:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BFrtcH3OJg
 
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Oh very much so!! :yes:

The number twelve was very significant in the final years of Michael's life. It still is even now.

To show you all again...the time of the 12:21 p.m. 911 call aligns with these verses of the Bible.

Revelations 21:12-21.

12 The city wall was broad and high, with twelve gates guarded by twelve angels. And the names of the twelve tribes of Israel were written on the gates.
13 There were three gates on each side—east, north, south, and west.
14 The wall of the city had twelve foundation stones, and on them were written the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 The angel who talked to me held in his hand a gold measuring stick to measure the city, its gates, and its wall.
16 When he measured it, he found it was a square, as wide as it was long. In fact, its length and width and height were each 1,400 miles.
17 Then he measured the walls and found them to be 216 feet thick (according to the human standard used by the angel).
18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city was pure gold, as clear as glass.
19 The wall of the city was built on foundation stones inlaid with twelve precious stones:the first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald,
20 the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst.
21 The twelve gates were made of pearls—each gate from a single pearl! And the main street was pure gold, as clear as glass.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2129257&highlight=twelve#post2129257


********************

In addition to this, when Michael launched his website MJJSource back during the trial, the first words that he had appear on our computer screens were "The Power Is In Believing."

These words are from his song titled, "Keep The Faith" which just happens to be track #12 on his "Dangerous" album.

In his song "Keep The Faith" he sings a line that says, "Just keep your eyes on the prize."

Not only does this line lead to the Bible, as did many other lines on Michael's "Dangerous" album, but it also makes sense as to why in Moddie777's dream she heard an announcer say "And the winner is Michael Jackson!"

Philippians 3:14
I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me Heavenward in Christ Jesus.

Michael made it! That's what Moddie777's dream is telling us. He won the prize! Heaven is the prize!

No matter what anyone took him through, he kept his faith in God and all of God's promises. He was a very sweet and spiritual person and he did not allow anyone to change this about him.

Signs of just how spiritual he was are still springing up left and right, and it is going to continue on for a while.

This servant of the Lord was working very hard and he had started very early in life. The loving things he put in place are still in place. The things he said are still coming forth.

He was the real deal. He wasn't pretending to be spiritual. He truly was.

He said, "Lies run sprints...Truth runs marathons" and he was not kidding.

Everything he did from being the real deal is continuing on as we speak. Everything that he attached his heart and soul to is still living in his stead. Everything that he put his passion into, we are still feeling. And every word that he wanted heard we are still listening to.

That's what happens when a man of true honor walks the earth. He was just passing through, as we all are, but he clearly left his mark. It is strong and it is positive.

GOSH I love me some Michael Jackson! He is so COOL! Looking forward to seeing "This Is It" in cinema! :D

Hope to see him one day down the road in the city of gold cheesin' and showing his pretty pearly whites as always!

Now about these love songs that he was releasing back to back before he left and the things that he was saying in them...

He said what he wanted to say. He recorded what he wanted heard. Should some of us continue to try to override his words? Of course not. What's the point?

Interviewer: Describe the performance that you put on.

Michael: What I do?

Interviewer: Yes.

Michael: Most of my songs are fast.

Interviewer: I mean, what do you put into it?

Michael: Well, whatever I sing, that's what I really mean. Like I'm singing a song, I don't sing it if I don't mean it.

Before Michael left was he singing about being in love? Yes, he was, and for a thread such as this, the words to "This Is It" fits. We had no idea this would happen. It just happened.

Was Michael planning to fall in love? Maybe not, maybe so. But, falling in love is not something that can be planned anyway. If it could, everyone would probably try to set a schedule, right?

Fortunately, Michael fell in love just in time. What if he didn't?

Verse from "Keep The Faith"

I know that keepin' the faith
Means never givin' up on love
But the power that love has
Has to make it right
Makes it
Makes it right

Hmmm, should we say this verse was a coincidence? The words, "The Power Is In Believing" that he had on MJJSource led right to his song "Keep The Faith" and every word of this song fell in place with what he was doing in his life at the time that he launched his website.

I wonder if there is 12 steps 2 get 2 heaven?? like maybe step 1: forgiving evertything & everyone that hurt u in the living life etc etc...I just have 2 say ''keep the faith'' is one of my fave songs on the dangerous album, it has a very special meaning to me.It definately helped me through the bad times in my childhood,it was a song that was saying ''dont give up!''
 
I wonder if there is 12 steps 2 get 2 heaven?? like maybe step 1: forgiving evertything & everyone that hurt u in the living life etc etc...I just have 2 say ''keep the faith'' is one of my fave songs on the dangerous album, it has a very special meaning to me.It definately helped me through the bad times in my childhood,it was a song that was saying ''dont give up!''
Yes, you can't give up on anything that matters...anything of true substance! If you give up on the things in life that matters, what else will there be to live for?

2 Thessalonians 1:11
So we keep on praying for you, asking our God to enable you to live a life worthy of His call. May he give you the power to accomplish all the good things your faith prompts you to do.


Michael put forth every bit of strength that he had in him to turn his life back around. He was not going to continue letting his life be what it had become. Evan Chandler threw Michael's life into total disarray. Before Michael's path crossed with Evan's, there was never anything about Michael's life for him to be ashamed of. He only had things to be proud of.

I just wish that someone would do the right thing and step up to the plate and put Evan Chandler behind bars for extortion. Evan is the reason that Michael left sooner than expected. Evan is the reason why Sneddon was still after Michael and trampling Michael's home, and Evan should not be allowed to be free.

Look at what Michael was doing back in the early 1990's. We can see what he was doing just by listening to his "Dangerous" album. He was singing verses of the Bible to the world, and he was also trying to hold on to a woman that he was deeply in love with during that time of his life. That is what he was doing, and none of it matches what Evan said about him.
 
FIRST I gotta LOL Hahahaha because Summer is trrrrrippin'!!! She is TOO funny!!! Awwww man!!!
:lol: :lol:


Oh very much so!! :yes:

The number twelve was very significant in the final years of Michael's life. It still is even now.

To show you all again...the time of the 12:21 p.m. 911 call aligns with these verses of the Bible.

Revelations 21:12-21.

12 The city wall was broad and high, with twelve gates guarded by twelve angels. And the names of the twelve tribes of Israel were written on the gates.
13 There were three gates on each side—east, north, south, and west.
14 The wall of the city had twelve foundation stones, and on them were written the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 The angel who talked to me held in his hand a gold measuring stick to measure the city, its gates, and its wall.
16 When he measured it, he found it was a square, as wide as it was long. In fact, its length and width and height were each 1,400 miles.
17 Then he measured the walls and found them to be 216 feet thick (according to the human standard used by the angel).
18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city was pure gold, as clear as glass.
19 The wall of the city was built on foundation stones inlaid with twelve precious stones:the first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald,
20 the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst.
21 The twelve gates were made of pearls—each gate from a single pearl! And the main street was pure gold, as clear as glass.

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2129257&highlight=twelve#post2129257


********************

In addition to this, when Michael launched his website MJJSource back during the trial, the first words that he had appear on our computer screens were "The Power Is In Believing."

These words are from his song titled, "Keep The Faith" which just happens to be track #12 on his "Dangerous" album.

In his song "Keep The Faith" he sings a line that says, "Just keep your eyes on the prize."

Not only does this line lead to the Bible, as did many other lines on Michael's "Dangerous" album, but it also makes sense as to why in Moddie777's dream she heard an announcer say "And the winner is Michael Jackson!"

Philippians 3:14
I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me Heavenward in Christ Jesus.


Michael made it! That's what Moddie777's dream is telling us. He won the prize! Heaven is the prize!

No matter what anyone took him through, he kept his faith in God and all of God's promises. He was a very sweet and spiritual person and he did not allow anyone to change this about him.
Signs of just how spiritual he was are still springing up left and right, and it is going to continue on for a while.

This servant of the Lord was working very hard and he had started very early in life. The loving things he put in place are still in place. The things he said are still coming forth.
He was the real deal. He wasn't pretending to be spiritual. He truly was.

He said, "Lies run sprints...Truth runs marathons" and he was not kidding.

Everything he did from being the real deal is continuing on as we speak. Everything that he attached his heart and soul to is still living in his stead. Everything that he put his passion into, we are still feeling. And every word that he wanted heard we are still listening to.
That's what happens when a man of true honor walks the earth
. He was just passing through, as we all are, but he clearly left his mark. It is strong and it is positive.

GOSH I love me some Michael Jackson! He is so COOL! Looking forward to seeing "This Is It" in cinema! :D

Hope to see him one day down the road in the city of gold cheesin' and showing his pretty pearly whites as always!

Now about these love songs that he was releasing back to back before he left and the things that he was saying in them...

He said what he wanted to say. He recorded what he wanted heard.
Should some of us continue to try to override his words? Of course not. What's the point?

Interviewer: Describe the performance that you put on.

Michael: What I do?

Interviewer: Yes.

Michael: Most of my songs are fast.

Interviewer: I mean, what do you put into it?

Michael: Well, whatever I sing, that's what I really mean. Like I'm singing a song, I don't sing it if I don't mean it.

Before Michael left was
he singing about being in love
? Yes, he was, and for a thread such as this, the words to "This Is It" fits. We had no idea this would happen. It just happened.

Was Michael planning to fall in love? Maybe not, maybe so. But,
falling in love is not something that can be planned
anyway. If it could, everyone would probably try to set a schedule, right?

Fortunately,
Michael fell in love
just in time. What if he didn't?

Verse from "Keep The Faith"

I know that keepin' the faith
Means never givin' up on love

But the power that love has
Has to make it right
Makes it
Makes it right

Hmmm, should we say this verse was a coincidence? The words,
"The Power Is In Believing"
that he had on MJJSource led right to his song "Keep The Faith" and every word of this song fell in place with what he was doing in his life at the time that he launched his website.

:punk:

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
Yeah, that was a very interesting shirt. ^^ :) There's a couple of interpretations that could be made about that one. Positive and/or negative...depending on ones perspective? I think he wore that sometime in May, right after that big meeting with his father, AEG and Allgood. That was an interesting week if I remember correctly. Lots of really good and fun pics almost daily or every other day.

Full view of shirt by Paco Chicano (a brand associated with Christian Audigier)

Front:
file_475.jpg

back
file_476.jpg

In my opinion...this video fits perfectly into this post...

Not that I care for the context of this video...but...LOVE the composition...Lyrically, melody...and over all musically..!

Check It Out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5OwOSfwk1M

:punk:Smiles~~~

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
Yes, you can't give up on anything that matters...anything of true substance! If you give up on the things in life that matters, what else will there be to live for?

2 Thessalonians 1:11
So we keep on praying for you, asking our God to enable you to live a life worthy of His call. May he give you the power to accomplish all the good things your faith prompts you to do.


Michael put forth every bit of strength that he had in him to turn his life back around. He was not going to continue letting his life be what it had become.
Evan Chandler threw Michael's life into total disarray. Before Michael's path crossed with Evan's, there was never anything about Michael's life for him to be ashamed of.
He only had things to be proud of.

I just wish that
someone would do the right thing and step up to the plate and put Evan Chandler behind bars for extortion. Evan is the reason that Michael left sooner than expected. Evan is the reason why Sneddon was still after Michael and trampling Michael's home, and Evan should not be allowed to be free.

Look at what Michael was doing back in the early 1990's. We can see what he was doing just by listening to his "Dangerous" album.
He was singing verses of the Bible to the world
, and he was also trying to hold on to
a woman that he was deeply in love
with during that time of his life. That is what he was doing, and
none of it matches what Evan said about him.

Giggles...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92TvK5tc40w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAyCMRvSuvM

:punk:psalm 37

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
There is a symbolic meaning for the "firefly". Not sure if that's why MJ wanted them but here goes.....:)


The symbolic meaning of the firefly of course deals with light, illumination and the like. Although an important focus, the issue of light is not the high feature behind the symbolic meaning of the firefly. Rather, it is the messages this wonderous creature gives us while her light is off may be most profound to our growth.

Here is a summary list of symbolic meaning of the firefly: Inspiration; Illumination; Patience; Attraction; Energy; Hope; Aspiration; Guidance; Efficiency; Creativity; New Ideas; Awakening

An ordinary looking creature during the day, admittedly, the firefly is a remarkable sight when it glows at night. This is a symbolic message to us humans that although our physical appearance may seem one way - it is our internal makings - what is inside us (such as our spirit) that makes us shine from the inside out. That which is within us will always illuminate us and those around us.

The firefly primarily uses its light in mating ceremonies, and it is quite elaborate an intricate. Light signals are precise and exactly timed in order to attract the right mate. This is a symbolic message that if we are to attract the people, places and things in our lives, we must plan accordingly, lay down the groundwork, and be persistent in our ideals.

It is interesting to note that the firefly does not produce heat in order to create her light. This is a message that we must not burn our candles at both ends. Creativity and development is suppose to be a free, natural, and easy-going process - there is no need for us to "burn-out" in order to reach our goals.

In addition to using no heat to produce her light, the fact that fireflies eat very little is another symbolic meaning of economy or efficiency. Adult fireflies use their environment to the most effective extent possible in order to gain their energy. This is a lesson for us to use the resources we have available to us, and not waste or consume to excess.

When fireflies come into our lives they are there to guide us to ways of living that are more earth-friendly, and soul-friendly. Fireflies teach us the value of living simply, and relying on our own inner voices for illumination. Fireflies also come to us with a message of creativity, and remind us that our paths are made lighter by the beauty that we allow into our lives.
 
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Here's the extended orchestra version of This Is It. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI0hGTn9zIk

I can picture after about 4:20 to the end, all lights are off, the entire theatre is black then we begin seeing the fireflies ... gradually tho....first one then two then ten then hundreds jmown random thought ... the music is completely amazing.
 
This thread is amazing, you learn new things everyday. Thx Lily for the nice firefly explanation, had no idea.


Going into Sdeidjs' experience from the other day, I would also like to post something I received recently which I think you will like. It is a little story about love and madness, or better put, lunacy. I can't take credit for anything other than a mere translation and the editing.


It is said that long ago a few human feelings and qualities met. While Boredom kept grumbling, Lunacy proposed: let’s all play hide and seek.

Intrigue acted surprised and Curiosity, without abstaining asked: hide and seek? And what is that? “It’s a game where I cover my face and start counting from one to one million while you hide. When I am done counting, I’ll start to look for you”, explains Lunacy. Enthusiasm was dancing of joy and Happiness was bouncing because it had managed to convince Doubt and even Indifference, the one who took no interest in anything.

But not all wanted to participate. Truth would rather not hide. Why? Because they always found it in the end. Pride considered the game silly. After all, it wasn't its idea. And Cowardice would rather not risk.

Lunacy started to count. The first that hid was Idleness, which, as it always did, lounged on the nearest stone it found. Envy hid behind Triumph that by its own strength managed to climb the highest trees.

Generosity almost couldn’t hide. Each spot seemed wonderful for each of its friends: the crystal clear lake for Beauty, the crown of a tree seemed perfect for Timidity, a gust of wind seemed magnificent for Freedom. In the end, after it had thought of all, Generosity hid in a ray of sunlight. In turn, Selfishness found a very good spot from the beginning. It was fresh, comfortable, only for it. Lie hid behind the rainbow and Passion and Desire among the volcanoes.

While Lunacy was almost done with counting, LOVE had yet to find a place to hide for they were all taken. Eventually it saw a bush of roses and decided to hide among the flowers.

“One million!”, said Lunacy and began its search. The first that came up was Idleness, only two steps away. Passion and Desire were felt in the vibration of the volcanoes. By chance it found Envy and immediatly after Triumph as well.Lunacy didn’t have to look for Selfishness cause it appeared by itself. Its hiding place was actually a nest of wasps.

All the searching made Lunacy thirsty and getting near to the lake, it discovered Beauty. It was even easier to find Doubt. It just sat and couldn't decide where to hide. And so it found all: Talent in the crude grass, Apprehension in a dark cave, Lie behind the rainbow. And it even found Oblivion, which had forgotten that it was playing hide and seek.

Only LOVE was nowhere to be found. Lunacy searched every tree, every stream, every mountain top. And when it was about to give up, saw the rose bush. It took a stick and starting to move the branches. Instantly, a shout was heard. The thorns had hurt LOVE's eyes. Lunacy no longer knew what to do to apologize. It cried, prayed, begged and asked forgiveness and promised to always stay together.

Ever since then LOVE is blind and Lunacy is always near it.
That is why it is said that „to love is lunacy, but, at least, love lunatically”.



I must confess that I never heard that saying. I thought the story (most probably inspired by Greek mythology) was quite nice. I do have to wonder though - how come the author forgot HOPE? Didn't it fit in there?

I was just about to post when I saw the link SoS so graciously provided. MAGNIFICENT, truly amazing. Simply mesmerizing. Oh my, the album cannot arrive soon enough, Amazon said they had shipped it. Beautiful, beautiful stuff there.
 
Thank you for posting that SoS.:)

I just closed my eyes, listened and visualized something so beautiful. :girl_sigh:
 
Yes, you can't give up on anything that matters...anything of true substance! If you give up on the things in life that matters, what else will there be to live for?

2 Thessalonians 1:11
So we keep on praying for you, asking our God to enable you to live a life worthy of His call. May he give you the power to accomplish all the good things your faith prompts you to do.


Michael put forth every bit of strength that he had in him to turn his life back around. He was not going to continue letting his life be what it had become. Evan Chandler threw Michael's life into total disarray. Before Michael's path crossed with Evan's, there was never anything about Michael's life for him to be ashamed of. He only had things to be proud of.

I just wish that someone would do the right thing and step up to the plate and put Evan Chandler behind bars for extortion. Evan is the reason that Michael left sooner than expected. Evan is the reason why Sneddon was still after Michael and trampling Michael's home, and Evan should not be allowed to be free.

Look at what Michael was doing back in the early 1990's. We can see what he was doing just by listening to his "Dangerous" album. He was singing verses of the Bible to the world, and he was also trying to hold on to a woman that he was deeply in love with during that time of his life. That is what he was doing, and none of it matches what Evan said about him.



I wish the was a time machine so we all could go bck to b4 mike met the chandlers and warn him bout them. I feel with the dangerous album mike was kinda saying " thiller wasnt it..that there was yet the best & more to come". Mike felt like he was on top of the world,but when ppl get to that point they easily tend to be unaware of fake ppl and dangerous surrondings that surrond them. Michael was a giver and he was proud of it, but the thing is when u give too much sometimes you get taken advantage of & burned.
 
I wish the was a time machine so we all could go bck to b4 mike met the chandlers and warn him bout them. I feel with the dangerous album mike was kinda saying " thiller wasnt it..that there was yet the best & more to come". Mike felt like he was on top of the world,but when ppl get to that point they easily tend to be unaware of fake ppl and dangerous surrondings that surrond them. Michael was a giver and he was proud of it, but the thing is when u give too much sometimes you get taken advantage of & burned.

You're right! :closedeyes:
 
There's a site I visit sometimes when I need to interpret symbols in my dreams or everyday life, it's fascinating to read if anyone is interested. http://www.whats-your-sign.com/signs.html

Anyway,
there is a symbolic meaning for the "firefly"
. Not sure if that's
why MJ wanted them
but here goes.....:)


The symbolic meaning of the firefly of course deals with light, illumination and the like. Although an important focus, the issue of light is not the high feature behind the symbolic meaning of the firefly. Rather, it is the messages this wonderous creature gives us while her light is off may be most profound to our growth.

Here is a summary list of symbolic meaning of the firefly: Inspiration; Illumination; Patience; Attraction; Energy; Hope; Aspiration; Guidance; Efficiency; Creativity; New Ideas; Awakening

An ordinary looking creature during the day, admittedly, the firefly is a remarkable sight when it glows at night. This is a symbolic message to us humans that although our physical appearance may seem one way - it is our internal makings - what is inside us (such as our spirit) that makes us shine from the inside out. That which is within us will always illuminate us and those around us.

The firefly primarily uses its light in mating ceremonies, and it is quite elaborate an intricate. Light signals are precise and exactly timed in order to attract the right mate. This is a symbolic message that if we are to attract the people, places and things in our lives, we must plan accordingly, lay down the groundwork, and be persistent in our ideals.

It is interesting to note that the firefly does not produce heat in order to create her light. This is a message that we must not burn our candles at both ends. Creativity and development is suppose to be a free, natural, and easy-going process - there is no need for us to "burn-out" in order to reach our goals.

In addition to using no heat to produce her light, the fact that fireflies eat very little is another symbolic meaning of economy or efficiency. Adult fireflies use their environment to the most effective extent possible in order to gain their energy. This is a lesson for us to use the resources we have available to us, and not waste or consume to excess.

When fireflies come into our lives they are there to guide us to ways of living that are more earth-friendly, and soul-friendly. Fireflies teach us the value of living simply, and relying on our own inner voices for illumination. Fireflies also come to us with a message of creativity, and remind us that our paths are made lighter by the beauty that we allow into our lives.

:punk:Simply Absolutely Breathtaking~~~

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I wish the was a time machine so we all could go bck to b4 mike met the chandlers and warn him bout them. I feel with the dangerous album mike was kinda saying " thiller wasnt it..that there was yet the best & more to come". Mike felt like he was on top of the world,but when ppl get to that point they easily tend to be
unaware of fake
ppl and dangerous surrondings that surrond them.
Michael was a giver and he was proud of it, but the thing is when u give too much sometimes you get taken advantage of & burned
.

By experience, "trust me" it does not matter if one was in the position that Mr.Jackson was/is...When one (s) have a pure, giving heart the evil ones of the world tend to "take advantage" of such kind, loving human beings. We tend to look at the good in everyone, and believe in others that we know or would think they would not stab us in the back.

People who lie, cheat, that self absorbed, and self serving etc. ect. have to look at that man in the mirror every day...and eventually...meet their maker at some point..!

Therefore, I believe in...

KARMA: Every time a person acts there is some quality of intention at the base of the mind and it is that quality rather than the outward appearance of the action that determines the effect. If a person professes piety and virtue but nonetheless acts with greed, anger or hatred (veiled behind an outward display of well-meaning intent) then the fruit of those actions will bear testimony to the fundamental intention that lay behind them and will be a cause for future unhappiness. The Buddha spoke of wholesome actions that result in happiness, and unwholesome actions that result in unhappiness.
and again...

Again...by personal experience...God truly has a "very unique" sense of humor...

Judgement day may take days, months, years, even decades...but at some point in time and space "what goes around...WILL eventually come around" one way or the other..!

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~
 
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This thread is amazing, you learn new things everyday. Thx Lily for the nice firefly explanation, had no idea.


Going into Sdeidjs' experience from the other day, I would also like to post something I received recently which I think you will like. It is a little story about love and madness, or better put, lunacy. I can't take credit for anything other than a mere translation and the editing.


It is said that long ago a few human feelings and qualities met. While Boredom kept grumbling, Lunacy proposed: let’s all play hide and seek.

Intrigue acted surprised and Curiosity, without abstaining asked: hide and seek? And what is that? “It’s a game where I cover my face and start counting from one to one million while you hide. When I am done counting, I’ll start to look for you”, explains Lunacy. Enthusiasm was dancing of joy and Happiness was bouncing because it had managed to convince Doubt and even Indifference, the one who took no interest in anything.

But not all wanted to participate. Truth would rather not hide. Why? Because they always found it in the end. Pride considered the game silly. After all, it wasn't its idea. And Cowardice would rather not risk.

Lunacy started to count. The first that hid was Idleness, which, as it always did, lounged on the nearest stone it found. Envy hid behind Triumph that by its own strength managed to climb the highest trees.

Generosity almost couldn’t hide. Each spot seemed wonderful for each of its friends: the crystal clear lake for Beauty, the crown of a tree seemed perfect for Timidity, a gust of wind seemed magnificent for Freedom. In the end, after it had thought of all, Generosity hid in a ray of sunlight. In turn, Selfishness found a very good spot from the beginning. It was fresh, comfortable, only for it. Lie hid behind the rainbow and Passion and Desire among the volcanoes.

While Lunacy was almost done with counting, LOVE had yet to find a place to hide for they were all taken. Eventually it saw a bush of roses and decided to hide among the flowers.

“One million!”, said Lunacy and began its search. The first that came up was Idleness, only two steps away. Passion and Desire were felt in the vibration of the volcanoes. By chance it found Envy and immediatly after Triumph as well.Lunacy didn’t have to look for Selfishness cause it appeared by itself. Its hiding place was actually a nest of wasps.

All the searching made Lunacy thirsty and getting near to the lake, it discovered Beauty. It was even easier to find Doubt. It just sat and couldn't decide where to hide. And so it found all: Talent in the crude grass, Apprehension in a dark cave, Lie behind the rainbow. And it even found Oblivion, which had forgotten that it was playing hide and seek.

Only LOVE was nowhere to be found. Lunacy searched every tree, every stream, every mountain top. And when it was about to give up, saw the rose bush. It took a stick and starting to move the branches. Instantly, a shout was heard. The thorns had hurt LOVE's eyes. Lunacy no longer knew what to do to apologize. It cried, prayed, begged and asked forgiveness and promised to always stay together.

Ever since then LOVE is blind and Lunacy is always near it.
That is why it is said that „to love is lunacy, but, at least, love lunatically”.

I must confess that I never heard that saying. I thought the story (most probably inspired by
Greek mythology
) was quite nice. I do have to wonder though - how come the author forgot HOPE? Didn't it fit in there?

I was just about to post when I saw the link SoS so graciously provided. MAGNIFICENT, truly amazing. Simply mesmerizing. Oh my, the album cannot arrive soon enough, Amazon said they had shipped it. Beautiful, beautiful stuff there.

Very Intellectually Intriguing...

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
AllForMJ and Lily, thanks for the posting!
SOS Orchestra Version This is It is really amazing!
Shabuya, a beautiful story about the love and the lunacy! Thanks for the posting :)

Hum... This discussion reminded me a text that I read out a time ago ... The credits are all of the author, I just translate the important points!

Love's did not a decision that is taken only with the heart or the sensitivity, but with reason, the sensitivity help you get out of yourself, but not enough to take him to love ... love is a choice that only you can do, is not a mechanical act is an act of the will of want...
The admiration and affection for the other push you to it, but this still is not love.

Love is not giving something to someone, this is philanthropy. The love is to give yourself completely to someone, even if he does not deserve... Love does not seek any other cause beside himself, it is a constant act that is renewed each time it is practiced... "its fruit is its practice".

Love is a challenge that God gives us every day. Many do not understand it, others did not have the grace of try it. However, those who experienced true love, permit be transformed. Love is the basis of everything. Everything will pass, only love will remain.


PS: These phrases are special to me... :blush:
"I realized that my love should not to be translated only by words"(St. Terezinha).

"In the evening, we will be judged by love." Mother Teresa
 
By experience, "trust me" it does not matter if one was in the position that Mr.Jackson was/is...When one (s) have a pure, giving heart the evil ones of the world tend to "take advantage" of such kind, loving human beings. We tend to look at the good in everyone, and believe in others that we know or would think they stab us in the back.

People who lie, cheat, that self absorbed, and self serving etc. ect. have to look at that man in the mirror every day...and eventually...meet their maker at some point..!

Therefore, I believe in...

KARMA: Every time a person acts there is some quality of intention at the base of the mind and it is that quality rather than the outward appearance of the action that determines the effect. If a person professes piety and virtue but nonetheless acts with greed, anger or hatred (veiled behind an outward display of well-meaning intent) then the fruit of those actions will bear testimony to the fundamental intention that lay behind them and will be a cause for future unhappiness. The Buddha spoke of wholesome actions that result in happiness, and unwholesome actions that result in unhappiness.
and again...

Again...by personal experience...God truly has a "very unique" sense of humor...

Judgement day may take days, months, years, even decades...but at some point in time and space "what goes around...WILL eventually come around" one way or the other..!

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~

WOW!!
:clapping: Very good!!
 
I want to share with you a newly released (cd)...this is one of many breath taking composition (s) from an Artist that my "very best friend" turned me on to many moons ago...

A gift to each and everyone of you~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYZQ6KN13jU


Always Keep The Faith...And WE Can & Will Move Mountain Tops...!


:angel:Keep Helping To Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
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Sdeidjs, thank you for posting the Michael W. Smith link. Unfortunately I can't listen to it right now, cause I gotta go, but I just wanted to acknowledge your post. I love his version of "Joyful, joyful". He's an incredible Christian artist. *Where that yes smiley @?* I can't seem to find it lol.
 
Sdeidjs, Sorry I will don't watch this video, the following message appears: This video is not available in your country due to copyright restrictions. :(
But either way I appreciate.
Thanks!
 
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