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Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

ashtanga said:
It is interesting that the sum gives the result 9, one of the lucky numbers of Michael, and the number 7. I do not know if that means anything.

I walk in thinking a lot lately numerology. lol! :wild:
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I don't know what the number 7 mean for Michael, but I know it means something.

Look at these pictures? Can you see the number 7?

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Left Leg

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Left Arm

Coincidences? I don't think so! THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES! =D
 
Tha, I never watched the number 7 in those pictures. lol!

I remember the video for Scream is the number 7 stamped on the clothing Michael.

7 and 9 are the two most important numbers in numerology. Here we comment on the discussion about it quickly.
 
ashtanga said:
Tha, I never watched the number 7 in those pictures. lol!

I remember the video for Scream is the number 7 stamped on the clothing Michael.

7 and 9 are the two most important numbers in numerology. Here we comment on the discussion about it quickly.
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In the first photo, the number 7 appears in his left leg and in the second photo, the number 7 appears in his left arm. o_O
 
summer said:
Anyways, all those songs just make me cry so much now. And Man In The Mirror. I can't stop picturing Michael's casket at the Memorial when ever I hear Man In The Mirror now. :boohoo: And all the years of having been a fan run through my mind like a film when I hear that song. :cry: I wish I could go back to 1987 when I first became a fan...and re-live all the years of having been a fan again.
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I wish i could go bck to 1990,i remember that time the most of me becoming a fan....happy times..:cry:
 
Archangels Chart

MICHAEL: He who is like God

Michael (Hebrew: מִיכָאֵל‎, Micha'el or Mîkhā'ēl; Greek: Μιχαήλ, Mikhaḗl; Latin: Michael or Míchaël; Arabic: میکائیل‎, Mikā'īl) is an archangel in Jewish, Christian and Islamic tradition. He is viewed as the field commander of the Army of God.

He is mentioned by name in the [[Book o:7|KJV}} In the book of Daniel, Michael appears as "one of the chief princes"[1] who in Daniel's vision comes to the angel Gabriel's aid in his contest with the angel of Persia (Dobiel), and is also described there as the advocate of Israel and "great prince who stands up for the children of your [Daniel's] people".[2]

The Talmudic tradition rendered Michael's name as meaning "who is like El?", - so Michael could consequently mean "One who is like God." But its being a question is alternatively understood as a rhetorical question, implying that no one is like God.

Much of the late Midrashic detail about Michael was transmitted to Christianity through the Book of Enoch, whence it was taken up and further elaborated. In late medieval Christianity, Michael, together with Saint George, became the patron saint of chivalry, and of the first chivalric order of France, the Order of Saint Michael of 1469. In the British honours system, a chivalric order founded in 1818 is also named for these two saints, the Order of St Michael and St George. St Michael is also considered in many Christian circles as the patron saint of the warrior. Police officers and soldiers, particularly paratroopers and fighter pilots, regard him as their patron. He is also a patron of Germany[3] and of the City of Brussels.[4]

Roman Catholics refer to him as Saint Michael the Archangel and also simply as Saint Michael. Orthodox Christians refer to him as the Taxiarch Archangel Michael or simply Archangel Michael. The New Thought Movement refers to Michael as Christ Michael.[5]

GABRIEL: God is my strength

RAPHAEL: Healer of God

URIEL: God is my light
 
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^Daniel 12:1 (New King James Version)

Daniel 12

Prophecy of the End Time

1 “At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.
 
MysteriousPhoenix said:
^Daniel 12:1 (New King James Version)

Daniel 12

Prophecy of the End Time

1 “At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.
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Brilliant!!!

just completing ...

still in Chapter 12 of the Book of Daniel:

"At the end of time appears Miguel the great Prince which supports the children of God's people. And then the dead shall be raised. Those who have done good, to eternal life, and those who did evil, the eternal horror."


Miguel "who is one with God" is the head of the heavenly host, is the angel of justice, repentance. Miguel defends us, with the great power that God gave him, and protect us from harm, the forces of evil and the enemies.

WOW!! I LOVE MICHAEL!!! My true love!!!!
 
mysterygirl7 said:
Wow that is beautiful.

What other signs have you had, Victoria?
Something else happened to me just a few days after. I said to God.. (I normally don't know if I believe in god, but I guess I do, when I don't know who else to turn to..) so I said, dear god, if there's still a chance, if Michael is still here, give me a sign, and I said if a child gives me a daisy, then I believe. I think that was 3-4 days after.
Then on the 4th of July I went to a wedding, and it was beautiful, it was in a forest pavillion, then when I arrived I first went to the brides brother in law who was sitting with his little daughter 2 years old, a bit away from all the guests who had arrived, so I kneeled down besides them .. when I saw my friend in her wedding dress I just started crying (again), then in the next moment the girl turned around, really fast as if something made her do it, and then she gave me a daisy..
And it was not like I had sat with 100s of children, I think she was the first child I was in contact with since I had wished for it to happen..
What do you think..?
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The Lord does work in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform.
 
Wow amazing mikes bday 29 of august and archangel sept 29....unbeliveable!
 
hey maybe mike & michael archangel are celebrating in heaven :wild:


It would be nice if they are
 
Originally Posted by MysteriousPhoenix
The Lord does work in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform.
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Clapping He's perfect in its fullness, and everything is for the good of those who believe

Originally Posted by tha
Today, Sep. 29, is the Michael Archangel Day! =)
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It's true Tha! well observed girl! :D

Coincidence? Not, "there aren't coincidences"! Clapping :wild: :D
 
Justus said:
I actually, don't really know what to write, or how to put my thoughts together right now. It's a bit difficult at this moment and I don't really know why. Where do I start?


As I mentioned before, I've been lurking on this board (and this thread) for a while. I've been following things that have been said, over the past several months. I must say, you all, really, are quite intelligent, loving, AND imaginative people.


What I truly enjoy about this thread is not only how you have kept it alive (as Victoria83 stated), despite the circumstances, but all the insight and thoughtful input and creativity and love is quite the blessing. Also your outpouring of love not just for Michael, but for each other, as well. it touches the heart and soul. Few people on this earth love/d Michael as much as or more than his fans. Something Michael has always been able to do is both bring people together in unity, and be a division to people, as well. But everything Michael is, everything he stands for, is Love, and Healing. His work continues beyond life; through family, friends, loved ones, fans, and anyone else inspired.


Remember: a body is simply a house for the spirit and soul, to live in while on this physical plane. The spirit and soul are able to do so much more once they transcend the body. Love, is even greater. Dancing, is even better. Spinning...not enough words to express it. It all has to do with love and unity/oneness.


I am just writing down my thoughts, and it seems a little random or nonchalant. I may not be making much sense to most of you. But SOME of you, do know what I am talking about. but the fact is, and I KNOW this for a fact, that Michael found a lot of love, right here on this thread. He got to know you. Some of you, quite well. Incognito, of course, to a degree. Other times quite in-your-face!


So did Michael find love in the dark? Well that question is moot as it has already been discussed and discovered that yes, he did. But he also found love, in the LIGHT. The love of YOUR light. may it ever shine! Michael asked a question, "Will You Be There?" to someone. So even when his "love(s) in the dark" may have faltered, YOU were always there for him! You stood by him through everything, defended and stood up for him (and even wrote about him) during his trials and tribulations, and just so much. You have loved him like no one else. you've been his "bride", so to speak, faithful and true. Yet, as stated by Victoria, "touch" has eluded him for varying reasons. He could never get close enough to the people he loved the very most (aside from his children). Or anyone else, for that matter. The simple fact of his identity prevented that. But, he provided his own evidences of his having been here, and you all caught on, so well done! But how else could he really have "touched" you? Your presence through the little things he wore and did was his way of quietly recipricating his love for YOU, and having YOUR touch near to HIM. Out of the box? absolutely.


In the days, weeks, and months since his passing, much more love poured out from around the world than Michael would have thought possible. And I think you all even have expressed that you didn't realize how much you loved him, until suddenly he was gone. This thread is about L O V E, love. And that's what Michael has always been about. It is unfortunate that so many people in this world simply weren't mentally nor spiritually ready for the kind of love he offered. Others, were. The fans of Michael are a special people; they are more rooted in a deep LOVE for him than simple fanatacism. People can't deny the love his mere presence has always emanated, and so many people recipricated in whatever way they could... whether that's in the positive, or the negative. They still do. And it didn't matter where in the world Michael was, people on the other side of the earth could still feel him. I know that it still happens, too...people feeling him even now. His spirit is powerful.


I am writing as I feel led, as usual. I know that all of you here are very special people, and so many out there mis-understand the love you have. Remember that Michael loved you back, even those he didn't know very well. I won't invade anyone's privacy, however, by naming those of you he DID know. You already know who you are.


So, congratulations on a job well done in this thread. And I feel for the loss of those who are no longer with you here. I believe some still had more to say, before disapearring w/o a trace. and so many of you, have been such a support to others here, it's incredible.


I'm contemplating now whether I should post this at all. Believe it or not it's a tough decision to make. I've been working on this post for several days, actually. I just know that I love having been here, and I am glad I am now making myself seen and heard. My goodness, you all have meant so much to Michael, you have to know that. Really. I know it in my heart and soul, and every fiber of my being.

God bless you all and I look forward to posting more on occasion.
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Victoria83 said:
Thank you. I'm not quite ready to do that, but will have to gear up for it? But soon? (today) And I'll get a box of tissues. I find it difficult, still, to listen to ANY of Michael's music at all. Doesn't matter, really. I can hear it all in my mind. What a MAGNIFICENT body of work!

Mostly I've stayed away from posting in this thread, although I do read here. I think most folks on MJJC don't quite understand it?

I had a strange thing happen this afternoon (strange things happen to me often. . they just DO?) I read Justus' long post, and was very moved by it, but also somehow unsettled. (Maybe I'll explain. . maybe not. . . .) I then went to the grocery store. I have plenty of food, but my TEN animals needed food. That would be my five cats (all rescues, some of them "differently abled"), and the five raccoons I seem to be supporting! (long story). Anyway, it's a strange day, in general. :boohoo::boohoo::boohoo::boohoo::boohoo::boohoo:A cold-front is moving through. I live in the mountains, and we have wild weather, often. Parts of the sky were blue, and parts had dark clouds. I was driving, and thinking about that post. I believe in a "higher power." Some people do not, and that's ok. But I DO. So at first I thought I'd ask for a sign. . . from the "higher power." But when I asked, instead, I asked Michael! What happened next was a small, random thing. Nothing, really. A LARGE raindrop fell on the windshield of my car. Huge, maybe two inches across. Then a space of about ten seconds, and a second huge raindrop fell. That was all. . . . .

(Justus, I've sent you a PM.)

Carry on,

Vic
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Shabuya said:
Beware folks, I have the feeling a rather long post is coming up. I guess it is true – the more things change, the more they stay the same. It is strange though to come back to this particular thread after June 25th. I meant to intervene a little earlier, but I got caught up in some other issues. I hope I'll remember all the things I wanted to write. As always with these kind of posts, they relate to all kinds of stuff, not necessarily to the exact previous line of thought.

During the last month I have had the priviledge to attend two public events celebrating Michael's life and work. On both ocassions – on his birthday and the Sunday before last -I felt an overwhelming sense of joy, hope, serenity, but above all love. I actually resent the word 'fan' because it comes from fanaticism and I like to think that isn't the proper word to describe my feelings towards Michael, but it certainly felt good to be among people of the same spirit sharing the admiration and the love for the man. What I loved most about both events was the diversity of the crowd, especially in terms of age – from toddlers to old folks. The most emotional moments which actually made me cry both times were related to 'Heal the world' when people were holding hands and dancing together in circle and singing the lyrics to the song. I felt those moments symbolized what Michael's life, struggle and example have always been about – caring about others, loving them and protecting this world we are leaving behind as legacy to our children and our grandchildren, and truth be told, we are leaving it in a rather wretched state.

Justus recalled earlier Michael's complexity and simplicity. Indeed, he was such a simple, yet complex man. He led a life most of us cannot begin to imagine – working 95% of it, being insanely famous for almost 80% of it, achieving so much and hurting so much. No other man in history has been this famous, this long, achieved as much or suffered as much in terms of their identity, innocence and work being questioned to the nth degree. It is no wonder the man kept manequins as friends, it is no wonder he could not relate to the ordinary joys of life like standing in line at the coffee shop, buying a lotto ticket or walking the dog in the park. In spite of living such an isolated life, he could express our inner most feelings and relate to that core which makes us all human no matter our race, age, gender, nationality or religion. He tapped into that fountain which makes human nature so beautiful – those honest, deep desires we all have no matter the longitude, the latitude or age of history we live in – what we basically all look for is unconditional love and a safe and serene environment in which to raise children and share life with those we love most, whilst also helping, when we can, those less fortunate than us. It is all so simple, isn't it? This actually reminds me of a great quote, whose author I unfortunately do not remember and it goes something like this – people use complicated words to say complicated things when they should be using simple words to say complicated things. And in that spirit and recalling Heal the world which I mentioned earlier – are there any more sublime words than “stop existing and start living?” Those five simple words have an entire philosophy of life behind them and demonstrate so exquisitely how simple and yet complex Michael was.


There are two other, maybe three issues on my mind right now as they pertain to this discussion. The first came about a few pages back and it deals with June 25th and the burdensome questions addressed to God. Although my faith in the Lord is steadfast, I must confess that I could not help but wonder why and especially why now? In my version of things he was supposed to be the post-modern day Job – after being tested in so many ways, the second part of his life would be even greater in rewards than the first. I foolishly believed that after the trial, he could do anything; if he had passed through that ordeal, nothing was impossible. He was supposed to get married a third and final time, for the first time before the Lord, have some kids trying to beat his dad's record, if not coming close to it....In my imagination he would put out a final pop album, an unplugged session and even an album featuring the most amazing national/regional artists (such as Xavier Naidoo in Germany or Adriano Celentano in Italy – both of whom are greatly talented, spiritually and socially aware men, as Michael) and then I 'saw' him witness his complete vindication before the entire world, him being an elder statesman not only of entertainment, but world affairs going around the world and lecturing about the state of the world. I saw all this for many decades to come and I would have given all of it if only he could have lived peacefully away from the prying eyes of the world together with his three little angels. I've probably went through every stage of grieving since late June, from denial to acceptance, except for maybe anger. I am saddened by the capacity of man to hurt fellow man, but I cannot feel angry. The only option I have is to trust God – He knows everything and I don't. We now see partially and probably can't see the forrest because of the trees, but one day all will be revealed.


A few days ago I discovered a very special performance of Ben http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U36DO_nrJeA I don't know about yall, but my heart was shred to pieces when looking at that little boy's face, I saw such incomprehensible melancholy, sorrow and deep sadness that I just wished I could pull him out of the screen and give him a hug. I cannot begin or even dare to imagine what was taking place before or after that performance. And this is what hurts the most – that wonderful man which had suffered soooo much from such a tender age was so dreadfully alone. We all want and deserve true love in our lives, but boy did this kid deserve it more than any? I can only hope that Michael indeed found complete (intelectual, spiritual and physical) love in someone before his departure, otherwise it wouldn't have been fair. Someone he could sing to something like Adriano Celentano's “L'emozione non ha voce” (emotion doesn't have a voice)....

You can listen to this wonderful song here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrkXI2P1qIk

And the translation courtesy of Google, with a tiny bit of help goes something like this:

I can not speak of love,
emotion has no voice
And I lack a little breathing
if you're near, there's too much light

My soul spreads
as music summer
then you know the urge takes me
and comes on with your kisses

I with you will be very honest
I'll remain what I am
Dishonest never, I swear
but if you betray, I won't forgive

I will be forever your friend,
even jealous as you know
I know I contradict myself
but precious are you to me

Sleep in my arms
peacefully
it is important that you know
for us to feel fully us

Give me another life
I do not know
thou shalt be my companion
until I know that you will want it

Two different characters
are easily ignited
but divided we lost
we feel almost nothing
We are tied together by
a love that gives us
the deep conviction
that no one will divide us


Sleep in my arms
peacefully
it is important that you know
for us to feel fully us

Give me another life
I do not know
thou shalt be my companion
till you want

then we'll live as you know
only with sincerity
love and trust,
then it will be what it will be

Chorus:
Sleep in my arms
peacefully
it is important that you know
for us to feel fully us
Fully us uhu uhu

I loove the line 'se ci sei, c'e tropa luce' (if u're near there's too much light), I think it sooo poetic, so beautiful and so raw.

I really hope Michael knew how beautiful he was and how loved he was. Whenever I see that sea of people underneath his hotel window in Will you be there, I can't help but feel both proud and sad. Proud that he could summon such love and attention from people, but sadness that he was all alone. Lord only knows if Michael found earthly love, but I hope at least now we will listen to his message. After all, LOVE IS HIS MESSAGE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3bjqcceU5Q He already said so long ago :happy:

P.S. Sorry again about the length of the post and congrats to the brave souls who ventured into it. Hugs and love to everyone and to those of you still struggling to listen to Michael's music...take all the time you need, in the end you will see you can make it through the songs with a smile on your face. :yes:
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summer said:
Okay that post just made me cry (literally). :boohoo: It was so beautiful. And it just made me realize ONCE AGAIN (like I seem to be doing several times a day still) how MUCH I miss Michael. It SO touches my heart when I see people write beautiful things about Michael and the kind of person he was and the kind of "power" he had. It just makes my heart so happy because that was the Michael WE saw...and always hoped the rest of the world would see or even just TRY to see as well.

Just like you, I'm having trouble finding the right words for a reply. It seems I can't really get myself into writing down much about Michael, what he meant to me, etc. I've been intending to write a post on my blog about Michael since the day he died...but I have not been able to get myself to do it to this day. When ever I even just think about it it feels I have so much to say that even just the thought seems to "exhaust" me emotionally. Like, there is so much I want to say it would take me DAYs to write it down and no space on any blog would be enough for it. It would just be too long. Also, like I said, it is so hard to find the right words. And I guess part of what is stopping me is my own self going"Come on...you didn't even KNOW him...stop being so sad. It's not like you were FRIENDS with him. Snap out of it already!". But no matter how I try I just can't stop missing Michael and being sad. Mostly because it breaks my heart to know what a BEAUTIFUL PERSON he was...and to know he is gone. It doesn't seem to matter that I didn't know him personally...it's knowing how UNIQUE he was that makes me sad. There was and never will be another person like Michael. He was so INCREDIABLY talented....that alone is SUCH a loss. But at least we have the albums and short films left to give some comfort. But then his personality was just so beautiful and unique also and THAT makes me cry bitter tears....because it is SO UNFAIR that he is gone. There was nothing weird about him...there was nothing "wacky" about him....and I so wish people could have understood him. Or even just TRIED. It makes me cry to know what a beautiful person he was and then know what kind of pain he had to endure...simply because people were ignorant. In a way it seems it was all the hateful people in this world who killed Michael. Maybe if they all had been a little nicer, Michael would still be with us? I hope all of those who made fun of Michael and were mean to him while he lived, looked into their hearts (if they have one) when Michael died and realized what they did.

Anyways, I don't really know what my point is...all I know is that I could go on and on about how beautiful Michael was. He was such a big part of my life, even when I didn't know him at all...but simply because I so admired him and looked up to him. To me he was the most beautiful soul on this earth...and I always wished there were more people like Michael on this planet. He gave me SO MANY happy moments...so many beautiful memories I can look back to and smile...through his music, performances, etc. And one thing he brought was friends. No matter how hard it may be to find friends in "real life"...no matter how "rejected" you may be....when you went to a place Michael went...all there was, was love. The fans welcomed you the way you were, no one ever had to be alone...we were all there, united, loving each other and loving Michael. The HAPPIEST moments in my life have all been at MJ events. Simply because I felt truly loved and accepted. I always went alone...but I was never alone. And that was something that really comforted me after Michael died as well. When I went to the O2 on July 13th for the vigil, I was scared I'll be alone. But no...I was welcomed by the REAL fans. Some who I had met just a few months before at MJ's hotel, some whom I only knew from MJJC. But we cried together, hugged each other...and it felt so good to be surrounded by people who knew EXACTLY what I was feeling. And it was comforting to know the people were all still there, even when Michael was gone. Kind of same thing with this thread....it is nice that it is still "alive". This thread was always fun to come to...something "magical" and "fun". A little "world of our own". Like a "refuge", almost. We've shared so many things in this thread, and it feels everyone is allowed to freely show what they feel and think, so it's nice. I haven't posted that much on this thread simply because I'm not so good with all the "theories", as I've said before. But I've always enjoyed reading this thread.

Anyways, I have no idea what my "point" is....But just wanted to reply and say thank you. Really loved your post. It was beautiful.

I just miss Michael so much....:boohoo: Not only his music, his voice, his performances...but even just the little cute random things he did...like him wearing clothes that don't match that always made me smile and think "Oh Michael...":smilerolleyes: because I thought it was cute because it was so "HIM" to do that. I just miss everything. :boohoo: And I wish he could come back. :boohoo: I keep praying to God that God could find a way to get him come back. I don't know HOW...but I leave that for God to figure out. I keep going through the ending of Moonwalker in my head... over and over again.. (the one where the kids are discussing the star..."his lucky star"...and Katie looks at the star and goes "It's not his lucky star? It's NOT! He's GONE!" and then she goes "I wish he'd come back"....and then a wind comes and Michael walks out from the fog and the kids run to hug him and MJ's like "I'm so happy to see you! You know I had to come back!"....and then they "go back to the club".) I know it's naive, but I keep going through that scene over and over again in my head and feel like if I believe in it hard enough, it will come true. I know it's just wishful thinking....but I keep praying to God it could come true anyway. I don't know how...but...I still keep praying. :cry:



I know that post was for Victoria...But I had to comment because I love those songs so much. And now they make me cry my eyes out. :boohoo: Not only because of the lyrics and beautiful melodies...but because there are so many memories attached to those songs as well. :cry: I couldn't get Will You Be There, I'll Be There and One Day In Your Life out of my head in London at the O2 on July 13th. I kept thinking "Michael...I said I'll be here in July...and I kept my word. I'm here." :cry: And when I was walking inside the O2 bubble...exactly where I had been just four months earlier. Exactly where I had seen Michael and had been SO HAPPY...I kept singing One Day In Your Life over and over again in my head.

One day in your life
you'll remember a place
Someone's touching your face
You'll come back and you'll look around you

One day in your life
You'll remember the love you found here
You'll remember me somehow
Though you don't need me now
I will stay in your heart
And when things fall apart
You'll remember one day... (That day being March 5th (and 6th) when I saw Michael for the very last time RIGHT THERE and was SO HAPPY...:boohoo:)

One day in your life
When you find that you're always waiting
For the love we used to share
Just call my name
And I'll be there (Again...Michael said in March "See you in July"...and I said I'll be there...and I was. Just like I said. :boohoo:)

Anyways, all those songs just make me cry so much now. And Man In The Mirror. I can't stop picturing Michael's casket at the Memorial when ever I hear Man In The Mirror now. :boohoo: And all the years of having been a fan run through my mind like a film when I hear that song. :cry: I wish I could go back to 1987 when I first became a fan...and re-live all the years of having been a fan again.




Vic, I think I know what you're trying to say. The same thing happened to me only a few days after Michael died. I was walking down the street, really sad...with tears in my eyes...thinking about Michael. And all of the sudden it started raining. Out of a clear sky. Coincidence, maybe...Anyways, I think I know what you meant. :yes:
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Victoria83 said:
And finally, the last song in "Justus'" request? "I'll Be There." Not the "child-song," but THIS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkN9BGAAGYU&feature=PlayList&p=2037C8C14400DF71&index=77

Try to see beyond this as representative of a particular religion, ok? Because not all of us on this board share the same religion? As a multinational board? See it as universal?

OMG, he was so very lonely. . . And so very, very beautiful. . . . truly.

peace,

Victoria
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Victoria83 said:
One more, and then I'm outta here, for tonight (probably?)

Have you seen this one? You WILL cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL9H7GU0F8Q

Vic
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gosh I feel so ... lost ... how did I miss this?

This is the most beautiful song oh God :weeping:
 
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Archangels: Michael, Gabriel and Raphael

Angels—messengers from God—appear frequently in Scripture, but only Michael, Gabriel and Raphael are named.


Michael appears in Daniel's vision as "the great prince" who defends Israel against its enemies; in the Book of Revelation, he leads God's armies to final victory over the forces of evil.

Devotion to Michael is the oldest angelic devotion, rising in the East in the fourth century. The Church in the West began to observe a feast honoring Michael and the angels in the fifth century.

Gabriel also makes an appearance in Daniel's visions, announcing Michael's role in God's plan. His best-known appearance is an encounter with a young Jewish girl named Mary, who consents to bear the Messiah.

Raphael's activity is confined to the Old Testament story of Tobit. There he appears to guide Tobit's son Tobiah through a series of fantastic adventures which lead to a threefold happy ending: Tobiah's marriage to Sarah, the healing of Tobit's blindness and the restoration of the family fortune.

The memorials of Gabriel (March 24) and Raphael (October 24) were added to the
Roman calendar in 1921. The 1970 revision of the calendar joined their feasts to Michael's.

Source: Beliefnet.com


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References in the Bible

The name Michael is scarcely mentioned in the Bible, appearing only in the following verses, as translated The Jerusalem Bible:

Daniel 10:13
"The Prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me for twenty-one days, but Michael, one of the chief princes, came to my aid"

Daniel 10:21
"No one provides assistance to these things but Michael your prince."

Daniel 12:1
"At that time up will be Michael the great prince which stands among the children of thy people. It will be a time of such anguish that never have been up to that time, as long as nations exist. But at that time thy people escape, that is, all that, is registered in the Book. "

Jude 9
"Yet Michael the archangel, when disputing with the devil, arguing about the body of Moses, dared not utter a sentence against him insulting, but merely say, The Lord rebuke you!"

Apocalypse or Revelation 12:7
"There was a war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon. Dragons struggled along with his angels, but was defeated, and we did not find another place for them in heaven."


In the apocryphal
In the book of Enoch Michael is designated as the prince of Israel. In the book of Jubilees, he is portrayed as the angel who instructed Moses in the Torah. In the Dead Sea Scrolls is pictured fighting Belial


The original Greek manuscript of 1 Thessalonians 4.16 says "the voice of the archangel" making a distinction of Jesus and the role of the archangel.

English:

"Because the Lord himself, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God, shall descend from heaven, and the dead in Christ shall arise first;"



Let's remember some things about the angels.

a) They constantly see God's face. Mt 18:10
b) Do not know when they were created. In the days of creation.
Maybe in the beginning. Job 38.4,7. Here, the children of God are angels.

c) Number. Dn 7:10, 2 Kgs 6:17, Mt 26.53, Heb 12:22; Gen. 32.1,2, Mark 5.8.
d) Names: Michael, Gabriel, Dan 9:21, Luke 1.19,26 ..
e) the spirits: Heb 1:14, Eph 6:12.
f) Strengths: Powerful: Ps 103.20, 2 Thessalonians 1.7; 2 Peter 2:11, John 5:4.

Wise 2 Sam 14:20. But they can not read the thoughts 1 Kings 8:39;

Dn 2.10. Majesty, Lk 9:26, Mt 28:3; Fast Mt 25.31.

g) Praise God, Ps 148.2; Is 63.
h) Protect, Ps 34.8; 91.11,12;

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The Lord does work in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform.
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Well, I hope that it wasn't just a co-incidence.. :) But I think I have reason to believe that it wasn't.. something to add to the story, was that the first time I saw my friend who had gotten maried after, I said to her as we we talking a walk, that I had really enjoyed talking to the girl who sat next to me that evening. We had really talked a lot, and she had said some things that had made me feel good, or just things that were really interesting. Anyway, my friend said that this girl, had said to the 2 year olds mother, that he thought that this little girl was a psychic!
I then decided to tell my friend the story about the daisy.. and then my friend were like.. well.. I AM the one who taught her to pick daisies... it was like she didn't like the thing that other girl had said about the girl being psychic, so then my story couldn't be worth anything either.. hmm don't know..
 
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Well, I hope that it wasn't just a co-incidence.. :) But I think I have reason to believe that it wasn't.. something to add to the story, was that the first time I saw my friend who had gotten maried after, I said to her as we we talking a walk, that I had really enjoyed talking to the girl who sat next to me that evening. We had really talked a lot, and she had said some things that had made me feel good, or just things that were really interesting. Anyway, my friend said that this girl, had said to the 2 year olds mother, that he thought that this little girl was a psychic!
I then decided to tell my friend the story about the daisy.. and then my friend were like.. well.. I AM the one who taught her to pick daisies... it was like she didn't like the thing that other girl had said about the girl being psychic, so then my story couldn't be worth anything either.. hmm don't know..
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It's possible that the girl was psychic, but that doesn't make it any less miraculous?

In terms of the recent trend of this thread, I'm not a biblical scholar, exactly, but the appearances of the name "Michael" are interesting?

There's been something I've been wondering about. . and sorry if this is digressive? There are many songs on the internet that say, "written by Michael Jackson." I've never been sure. . were they? And if so, how did they get "out there?" The song "Ecstasy," that I posted above, is one of them. Another is "Breaking Free." Are you familiar with this one, anyone? I've always found it to be dark, and mysterious. Anyone want to tackle an interpretation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4irj7-2Le4

It's an instrumental. In the video, there is a couple at first. . they look "biblical." And then a couple on an earthly plane. The man in either couple is NOT Michael, but Michael's image appears in the video, as he performs. Overlaid on all of this is an unrolling highway at night, as seen by the driver. I've always found the music and imagery to be eerie, and bleak. But, I don't know if Michael really wrote the music, or had anything to do with the video? Or maybe someone was "channeling" and it doesn't matter? Somehow I get the impression that this is similar to "Who Is It?" The woman is with someone who is NOT Michael.

So, anyone seen this? What do you think?
 
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