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Ingelief said:
sorry but i followed the trial thats not what i said... i said whe dont know what happens now with the fam you dont know them right? we are not in there home

edit: and pls be respectfull towards me...
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If you followed like you said you did you should already know what I am talking about. Seeing how you don't let me help you. The woman called. Michael names to the cops like sociopath. Sneddon with her permission bugged her phone and she tried to call Michael knowing Sneddon was listening to her calls. And don't even get me started on that noi BS she tried to pull. So if you want to kiss her feet go right ahead
 
Justthefacts said:
If you followed like you said you did you should already know what I am talking about. Seeing how you don't let me help you. The woman called. Michael names to the cops like sociopath. Sneddon with her permission bugged her phone and she tried to call Michael knowing Sneddon was listening to her calls. And don't even get me started on that noi BS she tried to pull. So if you want to kiss her feet go right ahead
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But of course, she's wonderful -______-
 
I agree only people who don't know everything they could know if they inform themselves find her wonderful.

Even William Wagener who was in the court room in 2005 told that after her testimony Debbie looked at Michael and said "I love you, Michael". And Michael didn't smile or nod or anything but looked like "I still don't trust you."
This is what Mr. Wagener also said about Debbie Rowe: "...Debbe had sucked a condo, a house and a pile of money out MJJ to give up her parental Rights, though she said on the witness stand, she wanted to give MJJ these children...as a gift. I look at that, and I think, damned expensive "gift", please Debbie Rowe, just do an interview with me, and don't give me anything."

^She's that wonderful! :doh: So wonderful that Michael never wanted to see her again...
 
Of course she's wonderful. Really really wonderful -_____-

I think we must teach her, what is a " gift ".

So for Miss Rowe :A gift or a present is the transfer of something without the expectation of receiving something in return.
 
Diplomate said:
One more time, where is my post????????????????????

There are no insults in my comments, so why it's deleted ?
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Hello. Diplomate
I hope this helps answer your question
Your post was an answer/reply to a post speaking about the DNA or parentage of MJ to PPB
That post was deleted becuase we dont allow that speculation on this board our of respect
for MJ and PPB _ So any all the replies including yours that quoted her post are no longer
applicable and wouldnt make sense in the thread.

I believe another was reported for explicit language content.
You are allowed to voice your opinion but just dont get to inapropriate
with the language you use to do that. Thanks :)
 
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the new york times a while back had a nice article about Michael's trail in 2005 a few months ago i couldn't find it but any way many can't stand her etc she had her faults but she the mother of his first two kids and didn't find anything foul on him to raised the gifts she gave to him her, MJ and the estate only knows what their agreement was i'm just glad that she never no mater how ill will they felt about each other after their marriage dragged him publicly like many did and still is doing. Yes i know the truth about them but i not going to spill teas cause thats all in the past those kids will always have a good memory about their father from people who seen him as a good person and father and not some Monster who hurt children i'm proud she allowed them to spend all those years with the greatest entertainer in the world when others went against Debbie wishes and wanted him not to be around his kids they both shut the world down and the media stood still...i'm out 100
 
qbee said:
Hello. Diplomate
I hope this helps answer your question
Your post was an answer/reply to a post speaking about the DNA or parentage of MJ to PPB
That post was deleted becuase we dont allow that speculation on this board our of respect
for MJ and PPB _ So any all the replies including yours that quoted her post are no longer
applicable and wouldnt make sense in the thread.

I believe another was reported for explicit language content.
You are allowed to voice your opinion but just dont get to inapropriate
with the language you use to do that. Thanks :)
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Ok, thanks for your answer Qbee

Thetruthbetold said:
the new york times a while back had a nice article about Michael's trail in 2005 a few months ago i couldn't find it but any way many can't stand her etc she had her faults but she the mother of his first two kids and didn't find anything foul on him to raised the gifts she gave to him her, MJ and the estate only knows what their agreement was i'm just glad that she never no mater how ill will they felt about each other after their marriage dragged him publicly like many did and still is doing. Yes i know the truth about them but i not going to spill teas cause thats all in the past those kids will always have a good memory about their father from people who seen him as a good person and father and not some Monster who hurt children i'm proud she allowed them to spend all those years with the greatest entertainer in the world when others went against Debbie wishes and wanted him not to be around his kids they both shut the world down and the media stood still...i'm out 100
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A gift or a present is the transfer of something without the expectation of receiving something in return.

Michael was both MOTHER and Father to those kids. Now that is something that is wonderful!
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It's the truth.His kids just had one parent, Mike.
 
Thetruthbetold said:
i'm just glad that she never no mater how ill will they felt about each other after their marriage dragged him publicly like many did and still is doing.
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Well, they had a confidentiality agreement.
"The basis for that Agreement was to prevent DEBORAH ROWE JACKSON from selling or giving interviews about "Confidential information" about the "Jackson parties", defined as MICHAEL and the parties' two children. "Confidential information" was defined as information relating to paternity, MICHAEL's mental or physical condition, purported drug use, sexual behavior, children's lifestyle, location etc."
So she could say nothing about him. That's how much Michael trusted her. A trusting friend...she was not! Michael didn't want her in the lives of his children. And he knew why he didn't want that. He got to know who she was.
Anyway, dragging him into court with using the f*cking allegations against him in the worst time of his life, when he fought for his life, is much more worse than anything... Yeah, she was so concerned for the children that she went silent again after she got money from Michael. How honorable!
 
^ these fans have no clue who & what Debbie Rowe did to MJ. Just look at who she's been hanging out with....selling kids videos to UK tabloids, having Marc Schaffel as her mouthpiece.



On a positive note...I hear the children don't trust her. And are not interested in a relationship with her...just like their dad wanted.

They have enough leeches in their lives....they don't need another hanger-on.
 
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memefan that is not true. she has been visiting them. Katherine told so, also she likes debbie. The why she take michael to court in 2007 i thought it was wasnt truly revealed was it? And i dont mean the tabloids...
i psych is with the kids and she has some visiting right to build some of a relation its going slowly but its not she doesnt care
i found that harsh to read.. She also made it clear that ofcourse she did this for michael, but she didnt left those children... she choose to stay away from perss and doesnt want to comment about how much she has been in contact in the last 10 years
I thought that when michael went to bahrein that is when she filed something in court because of the counrty and islam.. afraid of being happen... but i dont know wether that is true
 
I dont see anything wrong with Debbie and if she is involved in the kids life that is good thing :)
 
Why would it be a good thing if she's involved in the children's life? She's not their mother. She didn't want them, she only got them to do Michael a favor. She sold her own flesh and blood.
I just hope Michael had that talk with his babies about their mothers before he died and explained them some things.
 
Diplomate said:
Ah cool! More vultures around the kids! Can"t wait to see them with the bastard of Schaffel.
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You are very harsh arent you? She is the only parent that they have left. Yes the kids should know her and be around her. Also those kids know who there mother is. Its up to them who they can see. They could turn around and say no we dont want to see Debbie but they don't.
 
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Ingelief said:
memefan that is not true. she has been visiting them. Katherine told so, also she likes debbie. The why she take michael to court in 2007 i thought it was wasnt truly revealed was it? And i dont mean the tabloids...
i psych is with the kids and she has some visiting right to build some of a relation its going slowly but its not she doesnt care
i found that harsh to read.. She also made it clear that ofcourse she did this for michael, but she didnt left those children... she choose to stay away from perss and doesnt want to comment about how much she has been in contact in the last 10 years
I thought that when michael went to bahrein that is when she filed something in court because of the counrty and islam.. afraid of being happen... but i dont know wether that is true
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She has been visiting the kids. lol You have ABSOLUTELY no idea what you are writing about.

So moving on...
 
sharon007 said:
You are very harsh arent you? She is the only parent that they have left. Yes the kids should know her and be around her. Also those kids know who there mother is. Its up to them who they can see. They could turn around and say no we dont want to see Debbie but they don't.
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Giving birth to a child doesn't make you automatically a parent. Being a mother is much more than that. You have to earn the title "mother".
 
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Justice_MJ said:
Giving birth to a child doesn't make you automatically a parent. Being a mother is much more than that.
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exactly...:clapping::clapping::clapping:.....I have been saying this for years ..why people dont get it is beyond me,,
 
Justice_MJ said:
Giving birth to a child doesn't make you automatically a parent. Being a mother is much more than that. You have to earn the title "mother".
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Thank you!!! She is not a parent. She is a surrogate. If word didnt slip out about her being pregnant with MJs child, I highly doubt they would have been married and she would have been like Blankets mom.. #nonexistent
I think MJ made sure he was careful with the next surrogate he chose, so he wouldnt have to "buy" her silence.
 
Anti-LMP and Anti-Debbie Rowe factions have a common cause and they don't know it - lots of angry women who wished that they were the ones who had Michael's babies!
 
Debbie is okay in my book. She gave Michael the dream of becoming a daddy, the most precious gift of all.
 
The children didn´t have contact with their mother when they lived with Michael.
Why?
Michael didn´t want them to and I assume he had a reason for it.
 
I think its unfair to introduce Debbie into the kid's lives - if it has or hasn't already been done - when they didn't grow up with her. How awful is that; "Oh by the way kids, this is your mother!". You'd feel traumatized by that. Best that she stays away as per Michael's agreement.
 
Debbie saw the kids when they were younger. The kids know who she is.paris supposedly commented on her on that spring forum thing

i for one never had an issue wuth debbie back in the day after what she gave and did for him i liked her. But then i read the court transcripts re the trial and when the whoke custody issue happened. If that doesnt make u suspicious of her intentions nothing would.add on her friendship with schaffel and it would make anyone weary

Also mj never had an issue with her seeing the kids.he agreed to it during the whole visitation/custody issue.it was debbie who wasnt intrested due to the rules made by the judge.

She saw the kids after it happened but last we heard her lawyer filed cause the agreement for her to see them wasnt been stuck to.that was along time ago so maybe it was sorted quietly.and the kids are now old enough to dictate anyway so its upto them and paris has spoken on that
 
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Lady Shazia said:
Anti-LMP and Anti-Debbie Rowe factions have a common cause and they don't know it - lots of angry women who wished that they were the ones who had Michael's babies!
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that maybe the case with some but for those of us that are past the teenage years and have actually read court documents (have you?) and followed whats gone on.anyones issues with the named are pretty sound tbh
 
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Lady Shazia said:
Anti-LMP and Anti-Debbie Rowe factions have a common cause and they don't know it - lots of angry women who wished that they were the ones who had Michael's babies!
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Pro-Lisa here, so sorry your theory is not the case.
I would have never ever acted the way Debbie Rowe did. Not because I don't love Michael enough but because I love him more than life. She was just so wrong. Haven't you ever wondered why Michael didn't want to keep in touch with her? Even though (according to some) he must have been grateful forever?
He got to see her real face. That's why.
 
A surrogate is not a mother.

Mike was the father and the mother of his kids.

That's it.

Leave the surrogate alone with her beautiful children, her horses and dogs. And of course with her wonderful friend, Schaffel.

 
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