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msladeevon said:
I just hope Debbie is helping to raise or assist with her children . I feel that Paris is alot like Debbie and she is going to need to find out where she get that trait from since it is not in her fathers family. Just like we say Alejandra need to supervise her kids Debbie needs to help supervise her kids
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How do you know Paris is just like Debbie? You don't even know her except through pics. I'm just saying.
 
Memefan said:
but we don't know what was the agreement she had with MJ.

I spoke to a few people who attended the 2005 trial, and they described MJ's reaction to Debbie's appearance on the stand...and even though she was defending him, he seemed pretty cold to her.

I think she must keep the heat on the Jackson (Katherine)...to make sure the kids are well taken care of...but I think they all should respect what MJ wanted.
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And what heat must she keep on The Jackson's/Katherine? Mrs Jackson raised 9 wonderful kids, how many has Debbie raised. When has she been a mother to anyone? Why wasn't she involved after she tried her hardest to bring Michael back after he left the U.S.A after she accused him of kidnapping the kids. She got her rights reinsated and she dropped the whole thing. Why wasn't she involved when Michael was alive. Frank Casio was on Good Morning America crying his eyes out in June of last year and one of the things he said was Debbie has never been involved in the kids life and the kids DON'T know Debbie. Its online somewhere, google it. Like many people have said not because you give birth to a child you are a mother.
 
dearmichael1 said:
And what heat must she keep on The Jackson's/Katherine? Mrs Jackson raised 9 wonderful kids, how many has Debbie raised. When has she been a mother to anyone? Why wasn't she involved after she tried her hardest to bring Michael back after he left the U.S.A after she accused him of kidnapping the kids. She got her rights reinsated and she dropped the whole thing. Why wasn't she involved when Michael was alive. Frank Casio was on Good Morning America crying his eyes out in June of last year and one of the things he said was Debbie has never been involved in the kids life and the kids DON'T know Debbie. Its online somewhere, google it. Like many people have said not because you give birth to a child you are a mother.
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She's just a surrogate. So she has no relation with the kids.
 
you do not have to show your point ,,,Debbie has said all this before and she made it very clear to everyone...you do not have to accuse her with anything because she is not double-faced we know her relation with MJ and her kids even before 2009.and she stated this clearly in the court... so calm down.

what happened during the custody trial is something between them, non of it was made publicly, just like anything related to Michael ,the media made a big deal of it...even Debbie told Tom Mez that the custody lawyer is a person he would not love to meet.
 
Ohood said:
you do not have to show your point ,,,Debbie has said all this before and she made it very clear to everyone...you do not have to accuse her with anything because she is not double-faced we know her relation with MJ and her kids even before 2009.and she stated this clearly in the court... so calm down.

what happened during the custody trial is something between them, non of it was made publicly, just like anything related to Michael ,the media made a big deal of it...even Debbie told Tom Mez that the custody lawyer is a person he would not love to meet.
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why do you borther this is a woman who never did anything for MJ so why you continue to even waste breathe in this thread please believe the media and all documents please believe what many believe just don't use your opinions and the truth you have on this forum she just a surrogate the marriage was never legal just all controlled by MJJ and his super natural powers they never live together and thro she was married to MJ she also had a boyfriend etc etc etc. And she didn't give him their kids for money so he can rasied them i guess you can say he borrowed them according the the media he just a friend that she knew years ago and she borrowed from a surrogate father to help her. Etc etc etc. Give up please
 
^ most of them were stupid conclusions from Mark Geragos , and she defended herself in the court and she even told Tom Mez ,who was very friendly and polite with her, that who hired Mark Geragos made a big mistake!

Tom Mez said this because he was trying to stop her, and they were trying to scare her , because they thought she is against MJ, but actually they have nothin against her...the next day she was more than welcomed even MJ said he was glad to see her .
 
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Ohood said:
^ most of them were stupid conclusions from Mark Geragos , and she defended herself in the court and she even told Tom Mez ,who was very friendly and polite with her, that who hired Mark Geragos made a big mistake!

Tom was trying to stop, and they were trying to scare her , because they thought she is against MJ, but actually they have nothin against her...the next day she was more than welcomed even MJ said he was glad to see her .
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Oh yes i know all about Tom he is nothing but the devil yes they scared her told her what to say so MJ can be sentence to 20yrs and they she would be able to have the kids she knew MJ heart and soul was all for his babies she wasn't selling him out like that cause the kids was going to be sent to another family to care after them. Them People who been trying to kill Michael for years try use any body who was close to them including his baby mama. Yes I know Michael was happy to see her in court dude shed a damn tear when she kept it 100% about there marriage no body wasn't expecting that They wanted her to rip Michael apart the things they wanted her to say mess my head up if it wasn't for her family telling her she gotta be there for Michael he a good man they always liked him not what the media wants everybody to know a damn shame. And every one on here has the right to there opinions on her its not a big deal to me. She only got her parental rights just to be on the safe side and just to have the visitations that she was going for but that also was stop not by MJ but i'm leave it at that.

I use to go at her hard until i found out some real Ish that tore me into pieces don't know how she still standing.
 
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LMAO some of are you are typing like you know what is going on with this family...

NEWSFLASH [you don't] for all we know Prince & Paris were kickin it with Debbie lastnight.
 
Thetruthbetold said:
Oh yes i know all about Tom he is nothing but the devil yes they scared her told her what to say so MJ can be sentence to 20yrs and they she would be able to have the kids she knew MJ heart and soul was all for his babies she wasn't selling him out like that cause the kids was going to be sent to another family to care after them. Them People who been trying to kill Michael for years try use any body who was close to them including his baby mama. Yes I know Michael was happy to see her in court dude shed a damn tear when she kept it 100% about there marriage no body wasn't expecting that They wanted her to rip Michael apart the things they wanted her to say mess my head up if it wasn't for her family telling her she gotta be there for Michael he a good man they always liked him not what the media wants everybody to know a damn shame. And every one on here has the right to there opinions on her its not a big deal to me. She only got her parental rights just to be on the safe side and just to have the visitations that she was going for but that also was stop not by MJ but i'm leave it at that.

I use to go at her hard until i found out some real Ish that tore me into pieces don't know how she still standing.
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I remember that I am glad that she changed her mind and spoke up for Michael that time. He really needed her then.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
mj said in the rabbi book that he lived at lisas
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yes he did - they lived here on Long Valley Road in Hidden Hills California
she had put the house up for sale last year but it was pulled off the market shortly afterwards
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I think the talk about Katherine wanting Michael to marry Debbie is nothing more than ANOTHER one of those rumors and I don't know if what KF said on her former facebook page is accurate either - about MJ marrying Debbie because he was entering into a business deal with some royal family from the middle east and they would have frowned on children born out of wedlock.
 
Rockin. said:
Yes it's not from me, I said there isn't proof of that facebook message without a screencap of the message (showing it in its original form on facebook), not just a quote of it like I posted. My understanding was that the bodyguard hadn't yet answered fans asking whether it was true or not.
I think you're right there.
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I also followed the bodyguard's FB. The bodyguard said clearly that the story about Lisa is the only 2 women MJ would answering the phone is fake. They clearly state that the whole thing is made up by someone.

Back to Debbie Rowe, to me, I actually quite like her. She did make some mistakes but she also defended MJ for so many times during the most important time. Compared to Lisa, I actually like Debbie more. What Lisa did for the past few years is just hard for me to put all that behind. It's so sad that MJ need to die so Lisa can realize MJ loved her very much. ?
 
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i want to say then i really do think debbie is one of the good ones.. she gave michael kids and i believe they were close.. she is doing the best she can to live up the agrements but is so sick of the paparazzi
dont know much about lisa but randy said she is sweet doing flowerthings to forest lawn so there still in touch
 
StaceyMJ said:
Come on, I think we should cut Debbie a break. We do not know what is going on behind the scenes. We really do not know. But what I do know is she could have kicked up a stink over a lot of things over the years to make things difficult for Michael/Katherine and the kids but she hasn't. I really don't think she's all bad. Can we keep this in mind before this thread gets out of control please? Thankyou. :flowers:
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Because the estate is still paying her. And MJ being the wise man that he was barred her from talking to the media while she is receiving these payments.

Let's see what happens when Paris turns 18 and the money train stops.

Wait until then...last year she had her buddy Marc Schaffel do her dirty work


FYI she did make things very difficult for MJ in 2005. Need to refresh your memory?

She saw the kids a few times...but they did not warm up to her.
 
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I frankly don't know whats the deal with Debbie (and I say that given her asociation with marc schaffel), all I know is as long as she respect MJ, respects those kids, I'm good.
 
hm i think what happend in 2005 is not giving him a hard time, she testifyd for him and we dont know what happend because there is not alot of info on that.
dont know if she is still friends with shaffel but i hope they will continue too see each other the kids and debbie. i think it is good..
 
missred07 said:
I also followed the bodyguard's FB. The bodyguard said clearly that the story about Lisa is the only 2 women MJ would answering the phone is fake. They clearly state that the whole thing is made up by someone.
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Well, actually, they contradicted themselves. They had talked about Lisa in pms but then they got fed up and asked why people are so interested in Lisa because there were so many people asking about her, after that they started to deny what they said.
 
Ingelief said:
hm i think what happend in 2005 is not giving him a hard time, she testifyd for him and we dont know what happend because there is not alot of info on that.
dont know if she is still friends with shaffel but i hope they will continue too see each other the kids and debbie. i think it is good..
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Some of us do know what happend in 05 you are the one who does not.
 
I personally never thought Debbie ever wanted to harm MJ (or the kids) in any way. If she gave him some hard time in court I think it was mostly due to her desire to keep some type of connection to him and a lot of ill advices from greedy lawyers. We saw that the woman would pretty much do anything for MJ when she testified and planted a big egg on Sneddon's face. I really don't think she would intentionally do anything to harm MJ or the kids.

Now Lisa on the other hand did a lot of things with the sole purpose of hurting him.
 
I can't stand Debbie Rowe. Her actions speak volumes.
Even after his death, she wanted $200,000 from the MJ estate for her legal costs. Fortunately, the judge said no, she has had no right to that money.
She gave him two children and in return she got money. They weren't a gift as she alway says. Or does someone expect something back for a gift? But I believe that she thought that Michael would live with her if she gave him children. They never lived together. She was just a surrogate. Million of other women would have done the same for Michael. It's a fact that Michael didn't want to stay in touch with her. She had to sign a contract after their divorce saying she couldn't talk about him, or their relationship. Michael knew why he wanted that.
And during the worst time of his life, she dragged him into court with using the allegations against him. YUCK!
 
Justthefacts said:
Some of us do know what happend in 05 you are the one who does not.
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sorry but i followed the trial thats not what i said... i said whe dont know what happens now with the fam you dont know them right? we are not in there home

edit: and pls be respectfull towards me...
 
No, your post will not get deleted for posting yopur opinion. What will get deleted is the continual attacks on other people. You don't have to like Debbie Rowe. But that doesn't mean you can call people s**t just to get a point across. We have asked for this kind od thing to be watched over and over again. STOP IT! Please just stop it! It is so frustrating having to ask the same people not to do the same thing over and over again.

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One more time, where is my post????????????????????

There are no insults in my comments, so why it's deleted ?
 
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