Dateline NBC tonight, 9pm E.T with Rabbi Boteach's tapes

All in all...I felt the interview was quite thought provoking and educational...

I for one am "very impressed" (unlike so many other "so called" friends of Mr.Jackson's ) when asked what he (the Rabbi) would do with the proceeds from the book/tapes...

The Rabbi stated although he is a publisher and that what he does...(published 4 books already)...

"Most of the proceeds from THIS book will go to a charity to help promote the basic foundation of children...the family unit...!"

With that being said...Mr.Jackson would be proud..!


:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Perhaps you have never heard of the $100,000 that went to one of $hmuley's "charities," called 'L'Chaim' and magically disapearred.

Rabbi Boteach had a charity called 'L'Chaim Society', under which 'Heal the Kids' fell. MJ was involved with 'Heal the Kids.' Denise Rich donated $100,000 to the Society thinking it was legit. The $100,000 shows up in the L'Chaim Society's 2000 tax return. But the same return shows no money whatsoever was spent on anything remotely charitable, just salaries and expenses.

When reporters called the charity, all they got was a recorded message which said that the charity was gone and so was the rabbi. No forwarding number was given, the number for the guy who signed the last tax return didn't work and there was no listed number for the other director.
 
The proceed will go to charity?? my *cough* butt!

Out of ALL of the "so called" friends of Mr.Jackson's that have stabbed him in the back...

Besides one other person...thus far...the Rabbi is the only other friend of Mr.Jackson's that I know of that have stated or promised that the proceeds would go to charity...

That in itself has the "respect" for what and who Mr.Jackson..!

:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~
 
All in all...I felt the interview was quite thought provoking and educational...

I for one am "very impressed" (unlike so many other "so called" friends of Mr.Jackson's ) when asked what he (the Rabbi) would do with the proceeds from the book/tapes...

The Rabbi stated although he is a publisher and that what he does...(published 4 books already)...

"Most of the proceeds from THIS book will go to a charity to help promote the basic foundation of children...the family unit...!"

With that being said...Mr.Jackson would be proud..!


:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~

Is he saying he will reimburse the money he pilfered from MJ's charity?

How can anyone take this fake rabbi seriously? He stole from a charity...and now he wants to give money to another. Aaaaaah oookkkk!!!

I will make a donation in MJ's name, buy 100 MJ's Opus book.... before I buy that piece of crap.
 
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For those who want to read it but don't want to grease his pockets, I would suggest waiting and getting it used on Amazon or look at the library. Then we can know what to prepare ourselves for in Michael's defense, but not give this guy money.
I know what you mean, but Schumely is an author, writing books is what he does.
He's gonna get paid regardless.

My verdict, however, is still out on this purchase.
 
I watched it as well. I think the general public is going to take what Michael is saying on those tapes completely wrong. As in make distorted opinions or they just can't understand where he is coming from. Why..Rabbi do this,he says to open ppls eyes,but is it $.. i dont like speculation.. sigh..

I think you are right....the public will take it wrong...it is almost as though this is what the Rabbi wants......with friendslike him ...Michael didn't need enemies..
 
Face what? That was MJ's opinion of her. Madonna had a fascade and a public image to protect and maintain just as Mike had his. Still doesn't make her the biggest bitch in the world lol. Having children changes people, period.

Also, I don't believe for a second that MJ would have approved for this stuff to come out, not like this anyway. He was never really one to namecheck celebrities (especially his contemporaries) and say what some might take as "unfavorable" things about some of them publicly.

You are right. In the book, He kept prying MJ to say something negative about Britney Spears how sexual she behaves. He wouldn't. I think he liked Madonna and some things took place and it didn't workout. He also said she had some good qualities about here. Anytime, we feel rejected by someone we like sometimes we through stones. They both did but that was a long time ago.
 
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Perhaps you have never heard of the $100,000 that went to one of $hmuley's "charities," called 'L'Chaim' and magically disapearred.

Rabbi Boteach had a charity called 'L'Chaim Society', under which 'Heal the Kids' fell. MJ was involved with 'Heal the Kids.' Denise Rich donated $100,000 to the Society thinking it was legit. The $100,000 shows up in the L'Chaim Society's 2000 tax return. But the same return shows no money whatsoever was spent on anything remotely charitable, just salaries and expenses.

When reporters called the charity, all they got was a recorded message which said that the charity was gone and so was the rabbi. No forwarding number was given, the number for the guy who signed the last tax return didn't work and there was no listed number for the other director.

Surly, IF the administrators of this charity has done something illegal then in fact the authorities should be alerted to such activities so this matter can be handled in the appropriate manner...!
 
I know what you mean, but Schumely is an author, writing books is what he does.
He's gonna get paid regardless.

My verdict, however, is still out on this purchase.


But not if we read them from yeah, either the library... or get a coffee and read it inside Barnes and Noble! *mischievous grin* :) Then the books are returned and the bookstores have to pay to return them... so that info goes to their buying dept and fewer of this guys future books are ordered next time!
 
Schmuley was part of the problem when it came to Michael's inner circle. What possessed him to associate with that horsefly I'll never know. He trusted Uri I suppose & that in itself is a whole 'nother problem altogether.

People down Joe but I think Michael should have let Joe have more input on things than these strangers.
John Lucas
 
I watched the show. It was really heartbreaking. Really, really sad. Michael needed more than just a "spiritual adviser". He needed serious intensive therapy to help him heal the emotional wounds and learn to cope with the unresolved issues. It's just all too sad.

And Joe Jackson should have been removed from that family and put in jail for what he did.
 
Schmuley was part of the problem when it came to Michael's inner circle. What possessed him to associate with that horsefly I'll never know. He trusted Uri I suppose & that in itself is a whole 'nother problem altogether.

People down Joe but I think Michael should have let Joe have more input on things than these strangers.
John Lucas

I dont think he wanted to because he feared Joe.....and he couldnt wait to get away from him...I think the last thing he wanted was input from Joe
 
All in all...I felt the interview was quite thought provoking and educational...

I for one am "very impressed" (unlike so many other "so called" friends of Mr.Jackson's ) when asked what he (the Rabbi) would do with the proceeds from the book/tapes...

The Rabbi stated although he is a publisher and that what he does...(published 4 books already)...

"Most of the proceeds from THIS book will go to a charity to help promote the basic foundation of children...the family unit...!"

With that being said...Mr.Jackson would be proud..!


:angel:Heal The World...WE Are The World...Education IS The Key~~~

there is nothing in this for Michael to be proud of. being betrayed even further by someone who has already betrayed him before. the charity thing is sugar to the public to make himself not look so evil. except for this post i doubt there is one other person could possibly not see this rabbi for the opportunist dirt bag that he is.

if you want intellectualize it and make an argument for the snakes that is your choice to do so. it is nothing short of dancing on Michael's grave. but it is your dance to have. for me and i think for anyone else who has half a brain cell running they will not be fooled nor will they believe this man was a friend.
 
Schmuley was part of the problem when it came to Michael's inner circle. What possessed him to associate with that horsefly I'll never know. He trusted Uri I suppose & that in itself is a whole 'nother problem altogether.

People down Joe but I think Michael should have let Joe have more input on things than these strangers.
John Lucas

I guess looking from the outside, Joe is the lesser of two evils.

But the way MJ describe his relationship with Joe...hmmmmm, I think he might have seen it differently.
 
Sdeidjs - that is like saying "even though he stabbed me in the back at least he is donating the blood that was spilled to the blood donor drive!"
 
I posted this on another thread, since moved to the Tabloid Section. This is long, but it's better to be armed with facts than take things at what might seem to be face-value. In my opinion, Boteach defrauded Michael on the Heal the Kids foundation, by taking most of the donations for his personal salary. If any of the money goes to any charity, I'll eat my fedora (if I had a fedora?).

(I'm sorry Susie. . but Michael would NOT be proud of Boteach's giving money to charity, because he's NOT GOING TO!")

If you really want to KNOW about this awful man, read here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,73709,00.html

Samuel Freedman, a good reporter, writer and author of interesting books, evidently was sold a bill of goods on Boteach. His report on Shmuley's WWRL radio show with Peter Noel made it sound like Michael Jackson's onetime rabbi was on the up and up.

But readers of this column know otherwise. Back on May 23, 2001, we revealed the truth about the "Kosher Sex" rabbi who started a bogus charity with Jackson.

To this day there has no been no accounting for the money Boteach and Jackson raised for their Time for Kids/Heal the World Foundation. Indeed, the event they held on Feb. 14, 2001, at Carnegie Hall — a symposium on children — has never turned up in tax returns.

London newspapers reported that Boteach was ousted from the L'Chaim Society of Oxford University for mismanagement of funds. (He allegedly used money from the charity to maintain a lavish home. Boteach insisted it was his right to do so.) He was also reportedly banned from having a pulpit in the U.K., although during our conversation last year he denied that.

The New York Times also didn't bother to look into the infamous L'Chaim Society, Boteach's New York charity.

The most recent tax return available, which covers all of 2000, states that the New York edition of L'Chaim Society took in $203,185 in donations but paid out $240,164 "for administration." There are no funds listed for "Program Services."

In May 2001, this column discovered quite a lot about the so-called Oxford L'Chaim Society of New York, which has nothing whatsoever to do with Oxford University in Great Britain.

I wrote: "In 1999, the British government criticized (Boteach's) L'Chaim Society of Oxford, London and Cambridge — an organization that was supposed to support and promote Jewish thinking and life on the Oxford campus — when they discovered that Shmuley (his name is Shmuel but he loves the nickname) had been dipping into the funds.

In an e-mail to the Oxford Union, Sonia Tugwell of the Charity Commission wrote on January 8, 2001: "In August 1999, the Charity Commission opened an inquiry under section 8 of the Charities Act 1993 into the L'Chaim Independent Charitable Trust as a result of concerns that the charity's funds were being misapplied.

"The inquiry established that a number of apparent inappropriate payments were regularly being made by the founder of the charity, Rabbi Boteach and his wife. Fundraising costs and administrative expenses were high in relation to relatively low charitable expenditure.

"As a result of the inquiry, in March last year, the trustees of the charity, after taking appropriate legal advice, reached an agreement with the Boteaches. The result of this was that a sum was paid by them to the charity. The trustees of the charity decided to wind up the charity and the London and Oxford offices were closed last year with our approval. It was agreed that the assets of the Cambridge Society would be transferred to another trust. If there are any funds remaining after outstanding liabilities have been paid, these will be given to other charitable causes similar to those supported by the L'Chaim Independent Charitable Trust."

An article dated June 1, 1998, in the London Daily Telegraph clearly states: "Ah Shmuley. The shame, the disgrace. (He's been) publicly reproached by Elkin Levy, president of the United Synagogues; forced to resign from the synagogue in Willesden where he preaches, accused of conduct unbecoming, bringing the rabbinate into disrepute." The resignation was apparently in response to the publication of Boteach's controversial book, "Kosher Sex," which has been a bestseller and was excerpted in Playboy.

"It seems funny to me," said a source at the Oxford Union, "that the headquarters for the L'Chaim Society of Oxford is in New York."

Frustrated by the lack of information from Boteach's office, I subsequently wrote another story on Feb. 18, 2002, stating that Boteach's tax-free foundation in the United States is alled Oxford L'Chaim Society, implying a tie to the prestigious British university.

I also wrote that the L'Chaim Society's 1999 public tax filing shows that the charity took in $300,000. Of that amount, $160,000 went to "management" and $122,000 was sent as a lump-sum donation to the L'Chaim Society of Cambridge, the other top British university.

But, of course, representatives of the Cambridge Society swore to me last year that they hadn't heard from Boteach in a long time. Certainly they didn't mention a huge donation, and neither did Boteach.

Even so, more than half the money collected by Boteach in 1999 went to salaries. Less than half was donated to charity. Just in case you were wondering.
 
I I watch some of it especially towards the end I felt like MJ was speacking to us all like we were met to hear these tapes as for the author GTFO he was a bit to much for me and that interviewer bitch needed to shut up asking all them dumb ass questions. MJ was very educated on people and how the world is very curl my heart always went out to him cause many of us at one point got hurt in the worst way and over came our troubles MJ over come some of his troubles but his troubles trap him May he rest in peace for ever loved by many he really loved us fans and we really loved that man. P.S i see the insider and ET going to try to drag MJ on monday its never ends for them flops
 
there is nothing in this for Michael to be proud of. being betrayed even further by someone who has already betrayed him before. the charity thing is sugar to the public to make himself not look so evil. except for this post i doubt there is one other person could possibly not see this rabbi for the opportunist dirt bag that he is.

if you want intellectualize it and make an argument for the snakes that is your choice to do so. it is nothing short of dancing on Michael's grave. but it is your dance to have. for me and i think for anyone else who has half a brain cell running they will not be fooled nor will they believe this man was a friend.

I myself am questioning this poster's pushing the books. Could be a troll.

Let's face it, the general public won't be interested in buying that crap. Only MJ fans would. But from reading TMZ and other sites, there is major backlash against the fake rabbi....which explain that huffington post blog this afternoon.
 
I myself am questioning this poster's pushing the books. Could be a troll.

Let's face it, the general public won't be interested in buying that crap. Only MJ fans would. But from reading TMZ and other sites, there is major backlash against the fake rabbi....which explain that huffington post blog this afternoon.



Whos post blog? the rabbis?
 
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