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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

SoulQueen said:
Just saw Taj on the news this morning here in sydney being interviewed about the documentry hope it gets uploaded soon
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What program did show that? Is it available to view online? Or will it be later?
 
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The response to this from the fans has been more than I ever could've hoped for.
Everyone taking part in this is doing God's work, truly. Keep it up. We will win.
 
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terrell said:
Pull up his autopsy report. I am at work now on break not at my computer at home. The report should be on here in the archives as well.
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Well, I think we have a HUGE problem here. We are discussing one of the major pieces of falsified reasons for MJ being guilty by the media. And we are not able to link to any reputable sources outside the autopsy. This means as I suspected the media ignored to report on this fact, which is the reason the media can continue get away with their false fiction.

We only have 2 obviously MJ related websites reporting on below: Of course I dont doubt the autopsy at all - I just point out that it would be much easier to get the truth if there was major news sites reporting it and explaining the findings.

Now we only have "The penis appears uncircumcised." and thats pretty much it.

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/he-was-not-circumcised/?
https://themichaeljacksonallegation...-taken-of-the-stars-genitalia-by-the-police/?
 
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You know what? I bet Oprah is going to interview those two liars. Mo'Nique did try to warn everybody about her.

So, be on the lookout if that happens, those two might go on their "Feel Sorry For Me" Promo Tours.
 
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Lightbringer said:
Well, I think we have a HUGE problem here. We are discussing one of the major pieces of falsified reasons for MJ being guilty by the media. And we are not able to link to any reputable sources outside the autopsy. This means as I suspected the media ignored to report on this fact, which is the reason the media can continue get away with their false fiction.

We only have 2 obviously MJ related websites reporting on below: Of course I dont doubt the autopsy at all - I just point out that it would be much easier to get the truth if there was major news sites reporting it and explaining the findings.

Now we only have "The penis appears uncircumcised." and thats pretty much it.

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/he-was-not-circumcised/?
https://themichaeljacksonallegation...-taken-of-the-stars-genitalia-by-the-police/?
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The autopsy report is the most valid source. What other kind of credible source would confirm such a private topic? There was a USA Today article in 93-94 that was quoting 'sources' saying the description didn't match.
 
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Carmour260 said:
You know what? I bet Oprah is going to interview those two liars.
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I can see it too.
I think she'd throw Michael under the bus in a second just like the rest of them. I hope I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
 
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What program did show that? Is it available to view online? Or will it be later?
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Probably later I'm guessing since it was only just this morning as I believe it was live, I can't remember which news station it was as there's lots of them I tried looking it up and I can't find the interview.
But I'm sure it will be uploaded later I guess it takes a while for them to end up online, which hopefully it does as I didn't really watch the whole thing I think only saw half of it.
 
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Carmour260 said:
You know what? I bet Oprah is going to interview those two liars. Mo'Nique did try to warn everybody about her.

So, be on the lookout if that happens, those two might go on their "Feel Sorry For Me" Promo Tours.
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There was someone here today or yesterday that said Oprah had been dancing and singing to MJ music at a party of birthday of Quincy, also interviewed him. Now I don't know how recent that was.... but is she really gonna just turn around and not see the doc for what it is? One sided. Or at least not jump on the bandwagon straight away?

On the other hand, she's truly still siding with Weinstein? Even after a ton of women came out against him? How backwards is this world? I bet tons of people still believe in Oprah, put way too much stock in her, while she is still in defense of that man?

This world.

The positive tweets do bring a smile to my face and Taj, he's doing a good job. Good that he's going after Geraldine. I'm sure he's trying to get her to help him with his doc, I mean what else?
 
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I can't believe that article from Joe Vogel has over 172,000 views! That is amazing.
 
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^ yeah I re read it like 72,000 times.. sorry


Lol jk
 
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
There was someone here today or yesterday that said Oprah had been dancing and singing to MJ music at a party of birthday of Quincy, also interviewed him. Now I don't know how recent that was.... but is she really gonna just turn around and not see the doc for what it is? One sided. Or at least not jump on the bandwagon straight away?

On the other hand, she's truly still siding with Weinstein? Even after a ton of women came out against him? How backwards is this world? I bet tons of people still believe in Oprah, put way too much stock in her, while she is still in defense of that man?

This world.

The positive tweets do bring a smile to my face and Taj, he's doing a good job. Good that he's going after Geraldine. I'm sure he's trying to get her to help him with his doc, I mean what else?
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It was on the BET Tribute to Quincy Jones that aired in December 2018 or January 2019.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7o3XVxEtSc

It was when he was singing Rock with you. Anyway this is the show.
 
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Anybody expecting Oprah to support Michael can keep dreaming. She watched it on a yacht... on her birthday... with David Geffen. Gayle is her parrot. **** Oprah.
 
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WildStyle said:
Anybody expecting Oprah to support Michael can keep dreaming. She watched it on a yacht... on her birthday... with David Geffen. Gayle is her parrot. **** Oprah.
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I think they kind of two faced both Oprah and Gayle.
 
Lightbringer;4239517 said:
Well, I think we have a HUGE problem here. We are discussing one of the major pieces of falsified reasons for MJ being guilty by the media. And we are not able to link to any reputable sources outside the autopsy. This means as I suspected the media ignored to report on this fact, which is the reason the media can continue get away with their false fiction.

We only have 2 obviously MJ related websites reporting on below: Of course I dont doubt the autopsy at all - I just point out that it would be much easier to get the truth if there was major news sites reporting it and explaining the findings.

Now we only have "The penis appears uncircumcised." and thats pretty much it.

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/he-was-not-circumcised/?
https://themichaeljacksonallegation...-taken-of-the-stars-genitalia-by-the-police/?
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Photos may contradict Michael’s accuser USA TODAY (pre-1997 Fulltext). McLean, Va.: Jan 28, 1994. pg. 02.D Section: LIFE ISSN/ISBN: 07347456 Text Word Count 106 Abstract: The boy’s civil suit was settled out of court this week. The boy’s lawyers say the settlement does not preclude the teen from testifying in a criminal case, though prosecutors cannot force him to testify against his will.

Full Text: Copyright USA Today Information Network Jan 28, 1994

An unidentified source told Reuters news service Thursday that photos of Michael Jackson’s genitalia do not match descriptions given by the boy who accused the singer of sexual misconduct. If so, this could weaken any possible criminal actions against the singer. Already, speculation that the 14-year-old boy may not be willing to cooperate with officials is swirling. The boy’s civil suit was settled out of court this week. The boy’s lawyers say the settlement does not preclude the teen from testifying in a criminal case, though prosecutors cannot force him to testify against his will. Lawyers for both sides could not be reached for comment Thursday. http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/USAToda...&desc=Photos+may+contradict+Michael's+accuser

So this was publiched on jan 28, 1994, thats the real info.
The confirmed info is the autopsy.
Everything in between is from the trial and later sources including the pics of the socalled description
 
Word Smith Sr;4239534 said:
[video=youtube;vAIZblDD12w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAIZblDD12w&t=8s[/video]
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It would be cheaper and most effective to invite some individuals aka those fans who really know the facts and the bloggers about all the lies like VindicatingMichael and co, collect all possible youtube, dailymotion videos (btw, guys, download them, at least the most important vids, in case they would be deleted), make some special folders with concrete themes (pics/vids/court docs, tabloid sb, mainstream media twisted info), focus on them, collect everything, have a legal team, I believe there are some fans who are real lawyers, many or most of the themes and issues are ready to use online including timelines, dates, connections (VindicatingMichael and co.), focus on the people behind the scenes (Gutierrez and co., who is who like who is behind mjfacts pedo pagesand so on), use twitter support and links... and print everything as much as possible and then make a doc like a visual documentary, have some media guys to support the thing, and try to contact lets say NETFLIX...

he doesnt need the f****** 700K for a doc....

everything is online now, every fu***** piece of evidence

There are some pretty serious guys who worked on the Veritas project, and so on..., but Taj or TJ or whoever... needs to know about these pages, so let them know.

If they have geraldine Hudges or Pearl jr..., its pretty a "gonna-be-fail" thing, If they have jermaine or Latoya, they are the same, they dont know how to use the language, they are too soft, they are not prepared, they dont know how to act and what to say, cos they dont know a f***** serious thing about Michael.

But look at Taj, like seriously? this is his defence? this is what he can say? Smiling? oh please, its time NOT to be fair, Taj is not ready for anything, see his bearing ....., seriously?


Michael Jackson - FBI Investigative Files Released
1/ https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/stories/2009/december/jackson_122209
2/ https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael Jackson

By https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com:
The Wade Robson Allegations (summary version)
https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2018/09/23/the-wade-robson-allegations/

The 1993 Chandler Allegations (summary version)
https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2018/09/23/the-1993-chandler-allegations-summary-version/

The 2005 Arvizo Allegations (summary version)
https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2018/09/23/the-2005-arvizo-allegations/

Jason Francia (summary version)
https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2018/09/23/jason-francia-summary-version/

By MJJR.net archives – direct veritas project - https://web.archive.org/web/20161028185518/http://mjjr.net:80/content/mjcase/index2.html

By DAILY MICHAEL : http://dailymichael.com/lawsuits/robson-v-estate

By VINDICATING MICHAEL: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com + VERITAS PROJECT: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/veritas-project/
+
https://michaeljacksonvindication2.wordpress.com

By MJ TRUTH NOW: https://mjjtruthnow.wordpress.com

By CHARLES THOMSON: https://twitter.com/CEThomson + http://www.charles-thomson.net/index.html

By MJJ JUSTICE PROJECT: https://mjjjusticeproject.wordpress.com

ABOUT THE CHANDLERS by - https://turningthetableonthechandlerallegations.wordpress.com

TWITTER sources:
https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1
https://twitter.com/andjustice4some
https://twitter.com/Hammertonhal

https://twitter.com/JoeVogel1
https://twitter.com/MJJRepository
 
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Read this tweet and all the attachements...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THREAD: Dan Reed, Robson and Safechuck describe the alleged abuse as a love story. They push the notion that straight boys at the age of 7-13 were routinely &quot;in love&quot; with Jackson. This is the only way they can explain their repeated and long standing defense of MJ.</p>&mdash; Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1091189271552245760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Word Smith Sr said:
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I apprecitate Taj speaking out. He comes across as very honest and sincere.
It distresses me, however, to hear about how this crap is affecting Michael Jackson's children.
I pray to God that Prince, Paris, and Blanket will remain strong, and remember that their father, Michael Jackson is still watching over them
from Heaven.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="sk"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just recorded a special episode of <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJCast?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJCast</a>, about Leaving Neverland, with <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJAP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheMJAP</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> and filmmaker <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcosCabota?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarcosCabota</a>. Due out very soon. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheMJCastEp95?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheMJCastEp95</a></p>&mdash; Charles Thomson (@CEThomson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CEThomson/status/1091528288537845760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. februára 2019</a></blockquote>
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Besides other stupid rumours and lies people always mention very often that MJ paid off many familys for their silance and his mother still does this.
From where does this rumor come from and what can I show those people against this?
I think fans should do reviewvideos against the things which are on websides like MJfacts and on haters channels like that
cause this are the websides where the haters linked people to.
 
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Lightbringer said:
Well, I think we have a HUGE problem here. We are discussing one of the major pieces of falsified reasons for MJ being guilty by the media. And we are not able to link to any reputable sources outside the autopsy. This means as I suspected the media ignored to report on this fact, which is the reason the media can continue get away with their false fiction.

We only have 2 obviously MJ related websites reporting on below: Of course I dont doubt the autopsy at all - I just point out that it would be much easier to get the truth if there was major news sites reporting it and explaining the findings.

Now we only have "The penis appears uncircumcised." and thats pretty much it.

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/he-was-not-circumcised/?
https://themichaeljacksonallegation...-taken-of-the-stars-genitalia-by-the-police/?
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Im sorry but how more a reputable source can you get than a autopsy report or was the professor in on defending mj aswell. Dito re the vitiligo. The members of the grand jury stated there was not one single piece of evidence to support imdictment. Is that not enough and have you even seen the picture jordan drew. If anyone privates looked like that id be seriously worried for them.
 
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Thank you kerry anderson. Great statement. Always seemed like a nice guy and good to us on trips. Remembering the rat at the dorchester hotel in 05"?
 
here it goes...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="sk"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What receipts do you think you're gonna get???? These boys weren't taking evidence! Although, the initial accuser - Jordy Chandler - was able to intimately recount how Michael's penis looked.</p>&mdash; Perez (@ThePerezHilton) <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePerezHilton/status/1091425435353673728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">1. februára 2019</a></blockquote>
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Can you guys post this single gay (***) dad this info?

What You Should Know About the New Michael Jackson Documentary - https://www.forbes.com/sites/joevog...new-michael-jackson-documentary/#c96c9eb640fa

Defaming the Dead: The Michael Jackson Rebuttal (Part 2)

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Perez Hilton? Oh please, lmao. Really, where the **** is this nonsense all of a sudden coming from about Chandler? How are these people this delusional? After the trial I thought we'd at least be past this. Good lord. So goddamn pathetic how they bring that as fact. I'm not on Twitter but someone should simply provide him with the autopsy info and to finish it the "description" Jordan drew, lol.
 
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Lightbringer said:
Well, I think we have a HUGE problem here. We are discussing one of the major pieces of falsified reasons for MJ being guilty by the media. And we are not able to link to any reputable sources outside the autopsy. This means as I suspected the media ignored to report on this fact, which is the reason the media can continue get away with their false fiction.

We only have 2 obviously MJ related websites reporting on below: Of course I dont doubt the autopsy at all - I just point out that it would be much easier to get the truth if there was major news sites reporting it and explaining the findings.

Now we only have "The penis appears uncircumcised." and thats pretty much it.

https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/he-was-not-circumcised/?
https://themichaeljacksonallegation...-taken-of-the-stars-genitalia-by-the-police/?
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Well, we do have the autopsyreport at least. Who is the journalist you were talking to? He / she is welcome to become a member, dig into the archive and ask us questions maybe also interview the doctor who was there when it was beeing photographed. Also I think a big problem has always been that people think that since the police and DA made such a big deal of it it must be true but it was a witch hunt and that is also why I think he/she should interview Gary Dunlap who said Tom Sneddon had a history of malisious prosecution.
 
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Perez hilton? deary me thats a name from the past. This guy is a big a showbiz attention seeking troll as you can get. You gotta pick your battles
 
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La74 said:
Well, we do have the autopsyreport at least. Who is the journalist you were talking to? He / she is welcome to become a member, dig into the archive and ask us questions. Also I think a big problem has always been that people think that since the police and DA made such a big deal of it it must be true but it was a witch hunt and that is also why I think he/she should interview Gary Dunlap who said Tom Sneddon had a history of malisious prosecution.
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Somebody should also interview Geraldine Hughes and really go through court records before writing an article I think. We should think in the long perspective. Even if there is a temporary lynch mob again and his music should be pulled somewhere is there some way we can prove that this has been a hoax from the beginning? We can never make things right and resurect Michael Jackson but his family is still alive so think of what is the best thing to do in the long run.
 
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