Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[SmoothGangsta]

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I am not so positive... Seems like more and more tabloids and newspapers write about it now.

An I simply can not believe why most journalists seems to believe those 2 liars... - I mean, journalists of all people should know to do some research and be sceptical... how anyone - and especially a journalist - can believe this one-sided doc i beyond me...

They are incompetent and don't deserve the voices they have.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

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Sorry but the reaction of the media don't surprise me. It is like 1993 and 2003-2005 and always MJ was guilty before any trail did happen or now before many jounalists saw this documentery.
The world and the humankind didn't change!
Only we can better respond and act more powerful, always knowing we have the truth and god on ouer side.
MJ won the last two times and we must hope that justice will prevail once again!

 

[Lightbringer]

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:heart: :heart: :heart: This quote made me cry today - heartbreaking :-(

 

[terrell]

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Dr. Phil? Holy shit, I certainly wouldn't expect him to stay objective on such matters, especially not Michael. I never really liked the guy but I can appreciate this from him.

I really hope most people want the truth. That turd from Variety sure didn't. His/her hate for MJ is crystal clear there and it's based on a goddamn one sided mockumentary. That's what I call terrible journalism. This idiot is jumping to crazy conclusions, wondering how we can mute MJ and what not. Please let those people just **** off already. I saw tweets of people sending facts to that person, but I really doubt he/she will even bother with it. I'd call that a hater.

Let's hope most people are not like him/her. This is why a rebuttal doc is SO needed, mandatory even. Quite a lot of people side with this one sided mockumentary and don't even seem to look for the other side of the story, they have their minds made up. They need to be made aware of the other side of the story though.

Dr Phil was real good today. He even was fair to RKelly. Dr. Phil even said PEOPLE CAN LIE. And the audience clapped even the ladies. He told Kelly, if you have nothing to hide, come out a speak pretty much. A part of me hope he tackles this story with MJ (I think he will) and look at the facts. He did a show on a man who was falsely accused by his mother in law. He burst the mother in law out and she was a liar.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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Sorry but the reaction of the media don't surprise me. It is like 1993 and 2003-2005 and always MJ was guilty before any trail did happen or now before many jounalists saw this documentery.
The world and the humankind didn't change!
Only we can better respond and act more powerful, always knowing we have the truth and god on ouer side.
MJ won the last two times and we must hope that justice will prevail once again!

It would have been nice if the media had actually learned from its mistakes. I mean they saw how MJ was acquitted years ago and I don't know, it would have been good to at least see a few sources NOT jumping to crazy conclusions and immediately side with this documentary. I guess it just shows that very few media outlets truly care at all.

2003-2005 was a long time ago and I don't fully remember how it all was when it comes to media. Wasn't there a single media source that reported on the actual facts? Were they all on the bandwagon of MJ absolutely being guilty etc? Because if not and there were a few decent ones, it's definitely worse now. I've seen all the tweets here so far and I don't think I saw any normal, level headed responses about the doc from media sources.

It's pathetic is what it is. They should be goddamned ashamed of themselves. It seems these people just never learn. It's nothing more than a doc with two guys claiming that disgusting things happened. I'm sure it all sounded horrible, but nobody that attended the doc afterwards or during it thought to themselves "why come with this now? . Ten years after your abuser died, why wait?" or something like... "Hmmm could it be possible that these guys are like the Arvizo family, just making up stories as they go?" truly nobody that saw it there had any second thoughts or doubts? I refuse to believe that. Not necessarily only talking about media people, just folk in general.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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:heart: :heart: :heart: - This quote made me cry today :-(

Damn! I remember that quote. I have no idea what to believe whether people that passed away are aware of things happening here. For my beloved parents and grandmother I would hope they can see me now and how I'm doing in life. But for Michael I really hope he isn't aware of this.

That quote man...

Dr Phil was real good today. He even was fair to RKelly. Dr. Phil even said PEOPLE CAN LIE. And the audience clapped even the ladies. He told Kelly, if you have nothing to hide, come out a speak pretty much. A part of me hope he tackles this story with MJ (I think he will) and look at the facts. He did a show on a man who was falsely accused by his mother in law. He burst the mother in law out and she was a liar.

Never thought I'd say it but I've got a new found respect for that man now, after your message about him. For him to say that about even R Kelly, and that is quite something because pretty much anyone now wants that guy behind bars.

What was the case about with the man that was falsely accused? Abuse or something else? Yeah I'm with you. It's clear that he looks at this in a very level headed way ... I definitely want him to cover MJ more. Really really good on him, in a time where it's VERY needed. All the people that attended his show at least get to go home with in their minds that MJ really could be getting framed once again here. I'm very surprised and happy about this.

I mean, he started out on Oprah's show and of course that doesn't have to mean he shares the same view as her on those things, especially MJ, but still. Genuinely surprised! This isn't a small one, I'd say Phil is a big dog.

 

[terrell]

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Damn! I remember that quote. I have no idea what to believe whether people that passed away are aware of things happening here. For my beloved parents and grandmother I would hope they can see me now and how I'm doing in life. But for Michael I really hope he isn't aware of this.

That quote man...



Never thought I'd say it but I've got a new found respect for that man now, after your message about him. For him to say that about even R Kelly, and that is quite something because pretty much anyone now wants that guy behind bars.

What was the case about with the man that was falsely accused? Abuse or something else? Yeah I'm with you. It's clear that he looks at this in a very level headed way ... I definitely want him to cover MJ more. Really really good on him, in a time where it's VERY needed. All the people that attended his show at least get to go home with in their minds that MJ really could be getting framed once again here. I'm very surprised and happy about this.

I mean, he started out on Oprah's show and of course that doesn't have to mean he shares the same view as her on those things, especially MJ, but still. Genuinely surprised! This isn't a small one, I'd say Phil is a big dog.

The man got to see his daughter. The mother in law did it for REVENGE. She did not like the guy. She even went as far as to tell the granddaughter "yes, you were molested". She tried to drill it in the kids head. It was a good show. And as ususal, SHE LIED, changed her story, CRIED, etc. Dr Phil saw through it. Today, he dealt with a kid who always was abused by his mother. He investigated her after reports can in. She told Dr. Phil she was not abusing the kid putting him under the stairs to starve, etc. She told Dr. Phil you can come over in a few hours and see for yours. Dr. Phil did a RAID and came by in 30 minutes. They found all the evidence and she now in prison. Then he talked about RKelly. Listening to him, I hope he jumps on MJ's case. This was on the show "the talk" today.

 

[Spike J]

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Guys I was thinking something today.
The Estate should ask for some of michaels friends supporters and specially those who were kids and spent time with him to a guided revisit to neverland. shoot them visiting neverland and discussing these claims and debating their time with MJ, if Lisa Marie and Mcauley are featured even better. Ever since I heard that mjs sacred ground was 'a giant bed for molestation' I wish more and more the people see MJ real essence from those who shared moments there w him. Mix that footage with his home videos. Its been 10 years since he passed and The estate can easily pull this off and drop on netflix. It would make a great rebuttal and a great tribute

 

[Scream]

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I am not so positive... Seems like more and more tabloids and newspapers write about it now.

An I simply can not believe why most journalists seems to believe those 2 liars... - I mean, journalists of all people should know to do some research and be sceptical... how anyone - and especially a journalist - can believe this one-sided doc i beyond me...

Unfortunately, with modern journalism it's often not about the truth, it's about website clicks and newspaper sales.
Thomas Mesereau said it best, the day Michael was found innocent was the worst day possible for the media. The amount of money to be gained from his guilty verdict and sentencing was astronomical. It would've been the biggest celebrity story in history, but of course he was found completely innocent, so the tabloids have been forever been trying recapture that lost money that the innocent verdict robbed them of. So now we get a "trial by media" and this documentary is the latest excuse to plaster the front pages with sensationalist trash in order to sell a narrative in order to sell papers and increase website views.

As I said in earlier post though, the modern internet age gives us more of a voice than we could've ever hoped for in 1993 and 2005, so that is a positive. I'm sure the gatherings on the 10th anniversary of his passing will prove to the world that Michael Jackson is still loved the world over and will always be loved no matter how much they try to desecrate his reputation. As heartbreaking as this whole ordeal is for all of us, we just have to stay vigilant and ride this out like we've always done.

 

[travis3000]

This is very serious now, and we HAVE to do something big to stop this madness. Even all entertainment programs are questioning if michaels legacy will ever be the same, most of them said they won’t listen to his music anymore.

Seriously? In Canada it hasn't even been mentioned at all, you basically have to read through the Twitter feed of random people to even know this is going on.

 

[KOPV]

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Hey guys, I've never read carrie fishers book but I know she mentioned that her dentist at one point was Evan Chandler and spoke about Michael in it..

Can anyone summarize what was said in the book, I know she said something along the lines evan made her skin crawl and she caught on in some.sort of way that he was put to get Michael and that's when she stopped going to him??

Any summary details? I find that interesting

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

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Seriously? In Canada it hasn't even been mentioned at all, you basically have to read through the Twitter feed of random people to even know this is going on.

Don't you know the "ET Canada" Channel on YouTube?
Its a Tabloid MJ-Haters channel who had a very evil reaction when Maccaulay Culkin in respond on the documentery camed forward to defend MJ.
They absolutly didn't take Mac seriously and turned it like Mac was MJs Lover.
I was very upset when I saw this.
Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/24QuSFa3LNI

They talking about Leaving Neverland the whole time.

 

[terrell]

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Don't you know the "ET Canada" Channel on YouTube?
Its a Tabloid MJ-Haters channel who had a very evil respond when Maccaulay Culkin in respond on the documentery camed forward to defend MJ.
They absolutly don't take Mac seriously and turned it like Mac was MJs Lover.
I was very upset when I saw this.
Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/24QuSFa3LNI

They talking about Leving Neverland the whole time.

Yet they take the view of two PROVEN liars. See, I do not care what people like that think.

 

[Robbsaber01]

Hey guys, I've never read carrie fishers book but I know she mentioned that her dentist at one point was Evan Chandler and spoke about Michael in it..

Can anyone summarize what was said in the book, I know she said something along the lines evan made her skin crawl and she caught on in some.sort of way that he was put to get Michael and that's when she stopped going to him??

Any summary details? I find that interesting

I never knew about this until I came across this :
Instead they’ll be quick to point to the 1993 claims against Jackson as evidence of a pattern, but that earlier case was also fraught with suspicious motives. The father of that accuser, Evan Chandler, was ostensibly a dentist but also acted as a drug dealer to celebrities, as described in the late Carrie Fisher’s 2011 memoir, Shockaholic. Fisher, who admits having unnecessary dental work “just for the morphine,” described about how Chandler seemed to be scheming to put Jackson in a compromising position and was using his son as bait. “This was the time I knew I had to find another dentist,” she wrote. “No drug can hide the feeling of one’s skin crawling.”
She continued to say that she never believed MJ was guilty.

In her book, Fisher defended Jackson:

I never thought that Michael’s whole thing with kids was sexual. Never. As in Neverland. Granted, it was miles from appropriate, but just because it wasn’t normal doesn’t mean that it had to be perverse. Those aren’t the only two choices for what can happen between an adult and an un-related child hanging out together.

http://hymiesrecords.com/carrie-fisher-defended-michael-jackson-in-her-memoirs/

 

[moonchinking]

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Who's to say what's appropriate or "miles from appropriate". It's not like he kidnapped these children. The parents were there, and obviously said it was fine. Although didn't the Arvizos try to claim Michael was going to kidnap the family in a hot air balloon or something? lol

 

[KOPV]

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That's exactly what I read too, it reads like there are details left out in that you know? That's why I was curious what the key take away was from it..

When "journalists" summarize they only highlight what's 8mportant to the point they are trying to make.. so it just got me wondering.

Tha ks for the responce

 

[Resa]

Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffett has responded.


http://https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2367759809902019&id=176521782359177


Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffett
about an hour ago
Like that old saying goes: “When at first you don’t succeed…try, try, and TRY again!!” Well, that is what seems to be the motto and the premise for these two guys who keep ON trying to get at Michael through his money. And continue to humiliate and embarrass him with all their own admittedly false accusations evidenced through their admissions they testified and verified of Michael’s innocence time and time again throughout the years since these allegations first came up and about!!! How can they keep being allowed to defame a person who was already cleared on ”14 SEPARATE charges” and accusations in a major public court trial appearance in front of the whole entire world? Why is it allowed again and again…when Michael was proved innocent already? With the same people revamping and reshuffling their decks to try a rehashed version of their same old allegations and accusations in a different light and point of view just to see if THAT WAY works?! Trying to baffle, befuddle, and fool all of the people and public who’ve already seen and heard all the testimonies on both sides (which proved Michael’s innocence in all charges against him!!). When even ONLY “ONE” of the charges could have put him behind bars for a very long time…Yet none did…none couldn’t…none would! Yet even after all of that in that long drawn out trial...

Now, it should be criminal in what they are doing to him! In truly stalking his life, his memory, and legacy over and over and over again…doing this to him! He, who is supposed to be at peace now, at rest now…past and beyond the foils of all this intrepid persecution of prosecution people keep throwing at him. Now even in his absence from this world and from Earth, when at rest in his grave, how can this still be allowed?! With the same old unproven evidence as before, only revamped!? How can the judicial system keep allowing for money-hungry seeking people like these to keep on using the system for their own selfish trumped up means? Where is the justice for the “PROVEN INNOCENT”? And why are these once former defenders of Michael and his innocence and integrity allowed to misuse the courts and the court system like this? Giving them a vile voice once again, and again, and again?! It's a waste of time for the already crowded courts and court system. With bigger and important cases to try than to keep retrying the one these particular plaintiffs themselves already proved of Michael’s innocence! Stop the madness!For when even the FBI after decades of investigation and files gathering on him, unbeknownst by him, came to the conclusion that he was INNOCENT of anything of the likes he’d been accused of!!

I LOVE all my “Brothers J” and the Jackson Family! Especially Mother, who to me is like my Mother in my heart! To keep putting her through all this is just cruel and heartless! So please leave my “brother” in heart, spirit, and soul, Michael Jackson, alone! He has escaped this world of trials, tribulations, torment and persecution. PLEASE LET HIM REST IN HOLY PEACE……Jonathan Moffett

 

[terrell]

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Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffett has responded.


http://https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2367759809902019&id=176521782359177

IT wont open

 

[Resa]

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Sorry Duplicate post

 

[Resa]

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I’m sorry that the link didn’t open. Here’s what Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffett said:


Sorry about that.

Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffett
about an hour ago
Like that old saying goes: “When at first you don’t succeed…try, try, and TRY again!!” Well, that is what seems to be the motto and the premise for these two guys who keep ON trying to get at Michael through his money. And continue to humiliate and embarrass him with all their own admittedly false accusations evidenced through their admissions they testified and verified of Michael’s innocence time and time again throughout the years since these allegations first came up and about!!! How can they keep being allowed to defame a person who was already cleared on ”14 SEPARATE charges” and accusations in a major public court trial appearance in front of the whole entire world? Why is it allowed again and again…when Michael was proved innocent already? With the same people revamping and reshuffling their decks to try a rehashed version of their same old allegations and accusations in a different light and point of view just to see if THAT WAY works?! Trying to baffle, befuddle, and fool all of the people and public who’ve already seen and heard all the testimonies on both sides (which proved Michael’s innocence in all charges against him!!). When even ONLY “ONE” of the charges could have put him behind bars for a very long time…Yet none did…none couldn’t…none would! Yet even after all of that in that long drawn out trial...

Now, it should be criminal in what they are doing to him! In truly stalking his life, his memory, and legacy over and over and over again…doing this to him! He, who is supposed to be at peace now, at rest now…past and beyond the foils of all this intrepid persecution of prosecution people keep throwing at him. Now even in his absence from this world and from Earth, when at rest in his grave, how can this still be allowed?! With the same old unproven evidence as before, only revamped!? How can the judicial system keep allowing for money-hungry seeking people like these to keep on using the system for their own selfish trumped up means? Where is the justice for the “PROVEN INNOCENT”? And why are these once former defenders of Michael and his innocence and integrity allowed to misuse the courts and the court system like this? Giving them a vile voice once again, and again, and again?! It's a waste of time for the already crowded courts and court system. With bigger and important cases to try than to keep retrying the one these particular plaintiffs themselves already proved of Michael’s innocence! Stop the madness!For when even the FBI after decades of investigation and files gathering on him, unbeknownst by him, came to the conclusion that he was INNOCENT of anything of the likes he’d been accused of!!

I LOVE all my “Brothers J” and the Jackson Family! Especially Mother, who to me is like my Mother in my heart! To keep putting her through all this is just cruel and heartless! So please leave my “brother” in heart, spirit, and soul, Michael Jackson, alone! He has escaped this world of trials, tribulations, torment and persecution. PLEASE LET HIM REST IN HOLY PEACE……Jonathan Moffett

 

[PIXIEpuff]

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I find it funny that when all the news outlets are shouting from the rooftops about his pedophilia, they also then publish the old stories about his so called lady lovers and biological son. Completely contradictory just to get people reading and talking. Reminds me of when they said Michael demanded his girlfriends get breast enlargement surgery because he liked them big, well which is it, boys or boobs! Its always a circus. There are so many articles coming out but I agree with another poster, it'll be worse when it airs on TV.

I have been browsing YouTube for any fans who are speaking up with their opinion and evidence on videos, I'm seeing a few but way less than I would expect. We need fans to upload their counter attacks. The more the better. We are incredibly educated and we have to get it out there as much as possible.

 

[Robbsaber01]

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That's exactly what I read too, it reads like there are details left out in that you know? That's why I was curious what the key take away was from it..

When "journalists" summarize they only highlight what's 8mportant to the point they are trying to make.. so it just got me wondering.

Tha ks for the responce

No problem I never wouldve thought she would be connected to Chandler at all tbh. Her comments about him say it all. I guess you could say she sensed "a disturbance in the force" lol. Probably the only way to get the full story is through her book. Im sure if she was still here she would have something to say about Wade...

 

[G-B_24]

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Even Carrie Underwood liked Gayle Kings post. This is how it works over in America. Nobody will sit down with Gayle or even Oprah and go over anything to refute them.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffett has responded.


http://https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2367759809902019&id=176521782359177


Jonathan Sugarfoot Moffett
about an hour ago
Like that old saying goes: “When at first you don’t succeed…try, try, and TRY again!!” Well, that is what seems to be the motto and the premise for these two guys who keep ON trying to get at Michael through his money. And continue to humiliate and embarrass him with all their own admittedly false accusations evidenced through their admissions they testified and verified of Michael’s innocence time and time again throughout the years since these allegations first came up and about!!! How can they keep being allowed to defame a person who was already cleared on ”14 SEPARATE charges” and accusations in a major public court trial appearance in front of the whole entire world? Why is it allowed again and again…when Michael was proved innocent already? With the same people revamping and reshuffling their decks to try a rehashed version of their same old allegations and accusations in a different light and point of view just to see if THAT WAY works?! Trying to baffle, befuddle, and fool all of the people and public who’ve already seen and heard all the testimonies on both sides (which proved Michael’s innocence in all charges against him!!). When even ONLY “ONE” of the charges could have put him behind bars for a very long time…Yet none did…none couldn’t…none would! Yet even after all of that in that long drawn out trial...

Now, it should be criminal in what they are doing to him! In truly stalking his life, his memory, and legacy over and over and over again…doing this to him! He, who is supposed to be at peace now, at rest now…past and beyond the foils of all this intrepid persecution of prosecution people keep throwing at him. Now even in his absence from this world and from Earth, when at rest in his grave, how can this still be allowed?! With the same old unproven evidence as before, only revamped!? How can the judicial system keep allowing for money-hungry seeking people like these to keep on using the system for their own selfish trumped up means? Where is the justice for the “PROVEN INNOCENT”? And why are these once former defenders of Michael and his innocence and integrity allowed to misuse the courts and the court system like this? Giving them a vile voice once again, and again, and again?! It's a waste of time for the already crowded courts and court system. With bigger and important cases to try than to keep retrying the one these particular plaintiffs themselves already proved of Michael’s innocence! Stop the madness!For when even the FBI after decades of investigation and files gathering on him, unbeknownst by him, came to the conclusion that he was INNOCENT of anything of the likes he’d been accused of!!

I LOVE all my “Brothers J” and the Jackson Family! Especially Mother, who to me is like my Mother in my heart! To keep putting her through all this is just cruel and heartless! So please leave my “brother” in heart, spirit, and soul, Michael Jackson, alone! He has escaped this world of trials, tribulations, torment and persecution. PLEASE LET HIM REST IN HOLY PEACE……Jonathan Moffett

This is good. I love it!
It is really horrible that this cruel injustice happens and is allowed.
There should be a big outcry now from all famous superstars who must be all afraid that this can happen to them and their legecy once when they are gone!

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

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I don't like Perl Jr. but she made a new good video about Leaving Neverland with some interesting and good points.
She thinks that there must be a law coming now too against the Wade Robson situation.
She talked about Jokobshagen and other things.
Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/f75t9kFGqws

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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The man got to see his daughter. The mother in law did it for REVENGE. She did not like the guy. She even went as far as to tell the granddaughter "yes, you were molested". She tried to drill it in the kids head. It was a good show. And as ususal, SHE LIED, changed her story, CRIED, etc. Dr Phil saw through it. Today, he dealt with a kid who always was abused by his mother. He investigated her after reports can in. She told Dr. Phil she was not abusing the kid putting him under the stairs to starve, etc. She told Dr. Phil you can come over in a few hours and see for yours. Dr. Phil did a RAID and came by in 30 minutes. They found all the evidence and she now in prison. Then he talked about RKelly. Listening to him, I hope he jumps on MJ's case. This was on the show "the talk" today.

Again I have to say I'm very surprised. Each time I would see his show on TV and he talked to people I just said to myself "sure man, even I could have come up with those answers and advice." and I think I started to have even more disbelief when the "Cash me ousside" girl came on and became such a ridiculous hype.

I had no idea about these very serious cases you spoke of just now. I was quite wrong about the guy then. This reminds me a little of a Oprah episode years ago. She had a group of men in the show that had been set free by a new mayor I believe. These guys had been behind bars for a long long time, all the while being innocent as can be. At that time I really respected Oprah for having those men there. Her being on a yacht with David Geffen and for her birthday watching that mockumentary is just plain sick, that's a Oprah I can never respect.

It looks like this man at least does his research and isn't some kind of sheep like all the media people right now. If he were to do some proper research on MJ and cover that in his show, that be fantastic.

 

[ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona]

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What I wanna let you remeber....
This is not only turuning out to be very damaging for Michaels legecy when it is 10th year of his death after people all around the world celebrated his 60th birthday and "Off the wall" will have its 40th Birthtday.
Its supposed to get indirectly damaing fo the jacksons/jackson 5 legency too cause 2019 is the year when "I want you back" their first number one hit and their first Motowown album " Diana Ross presents the Jackson 5" (with some beautiful songs I really like) will have its magical 50th birthday!

 

[wednesday]

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This is America.

Black man vindicated in court. Vindicated by the FBI. Vindicated by two investigations. Vindicated by hundreds of witnesses.

Two white men change their stories after twenty years. Claim they lied under oath. Seek lots of money.

Any guess who America believes?
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Let that sink in... Thank you, Joe Vogel!

 

[wednesday]

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An I simply can not believe why most journalists seems to believe those 2 liars... - I mean, journalists of all people should know to do some research and be sceptical... how anyone - and especially a journalist - can believe this one-sided doc i beyond me...

If you would like to educate yourself on the state of journalism, I recommend you read this book by Noam Chomsky. It is very enlightening.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

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If you watch movies and/or shows you always see these journalists doing all they can to get the real truth about things. They always look to be real stand up people that you should respect for doing what they do. That's clearly not when it's about MJ, that much has been confirmed now for years and years on end.

At the same time, it's not only the fault of the journalists. I'm sure their boss tells them to make the story as "juicy" as possible and if that means ignoring facts that make it less sensational, then go or you will be let go.