Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[Big Apple NYC]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I will consider this a big middle finger to the LN brigade. <a href="https://t.co/QO1RtJnU0L">https://t.co/QO1RtJnU0L</a></p>&#8212; Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1210593121140166658?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">27. Dezember 2019</a></blockquote>
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In my opinion, fans are not upset, it's THE MEDIA that's upset. They're upset the Kim K is not following their "narrative." Kim made a huge statement when she gifted that jacket to her child and not only that, she also noted that her child is a Big Michael Jackson Fan!!!!

You'll know the media is mad-mad. How dare Kim K think for herself. LOL.

 

[La74]

In my opinion, fans are not upset, it's THE MEDIA that's upset. They're upset the Kim K is not following their "narrative." Kim made a huge statement when she gifted that jacket to her child and not only that, she also noted that her child is a Big Michael Jackson Fan!!!!

You'll know the media is mad-mad. How dare Kim K think for herself. LOL.

And this is also someone who knew both Michael Jackson and Wade Robson.

 

[Big Apple NYC]

And this is also someone who knew both Michael Jackson and Wade Robson.

Oh really, I didn't know that, but I bet there are a lot more Kim K's out there. In my opinion, they're just afraid to take a stand because of the MeToo Mob.

Kim K, on the other hand, does what she wants to do, when she wants to do it and doesn't care what people think. I guess she learned that from Kanye!!! LOL.

 

[terrell]

In my opinion, fans are not upset, it's THE MEDIA that's upset. They're upset the Kim K is not following their "narrative." Kim made a huge statement when she gifted that jacket to her child and not only that, she also noted that her child is a Big Michael Jackson Fan!!!!

You'll know the media is mad-mad. How dare Kim K think for herself. LOL.

And even by some of the media, it is not most of the media who seem to be upset just one or two who want to push their agenda who are each probably connected. Some many media are posting it and not talking about LN or anything negative.

 

[ScreenOrigami]

JUst to let you all know. Just watched CNN. They had their top 9 2019 media stories. Meetoo movement/docuementaries/people expose. Leaving Neverland NOT ON THE LIST. There was Rekelly, Epstein, and others. NO LEAVING Neverland.

Is this why it’s a “Top 9” instead of a good old “Top 10”? :laughing:
Great to hear, thanks for the info.

 

[terrell]

Oh really, I didn't know that, but I bet there are a lot more Kim K's out there. In my opinion, they're just afraid to take a stand because of the MeToo Mob.

Kim K, on the other hand, does what she wants to do, when she wants to do it and doesn't care what people think. I guess she learned that from Kanye!!! LOL.

And they know what is feels like to be lied on. Kyle posted her daughter with a diamond ring on some a few attacked her. So it really does not matter, some people just want to find something to b*tch about. I think the average person will just say it is kim's money and she can buy her kid whatever she want no matter how much she wants to spend. If I had her money, I would have brought all of MJ's clothes and no matter what the cost if I could afford it.

 

[terrell]

Is this why it&#8217;s a &#8220;Top 9&#8221; instead of a good old &#8220;Top 10&#8221;? :laughing:
Great to hear, thanks for the info.

CNN completely IGNORED it. That tells you something. they found out that fans/fair minded people were right about these liars.

 

[La74]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey, everybody, I always like to include all of you in my work. Any questions you&#39;d like to ask <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a>, this is your chance! Your Qs will be featured in our show. <a href="https://t.co/luFBMYX8FZ">pic.twitter.com/luFBMYX8FZ</a></p>&mdash; Ika Ferrer Goti&#263; N1 (@IkaFerrerGotic) <a href="https://twitter.com/IkaFerrerGotic/status/1210977949417136128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[somewhereinthedark]

In my opinion, fans are not upset, it's THE MEDIA that's upset. They're upset the Kim K is not following their "narrative." Kim made a huge statement when she gifted that jacket to her child and not only that, she also noted that her child is a Big Michael Jackson Fan!!!!

You'll know the media is mad-mad. How dare Kim K think for herself. LOL.

100% agree with everything you said!!!

 

[somewhereinthedark]

And even by some of the media, it is not most of the media who seem to be upset just one or two who want to push their agenda who are each probably connected. Some many media are posting it and not talking about LN or anything negative.

Exactly. I have seen a LOT of articles about this and MOST are not even mentioning the fraudomentary LN.

 

[ScreenOrigami]

This just in: In case anyone was wondering: LN is not on Obama&#8217;s favorite movie list of 2019. :laughing:

 

[Elton-Cetera]

 

[PoP]

I wanna punch that MFer!:mat:

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The year behind us has been a turbulent one. The very name <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> has divided many platforms. We have to ask the obvious questions and present the facts! I'd like to thank <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a> for joining me on the show! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MJFam?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MJFam</a>, thank you all for your Qs! Soon on air on <a href="https://twitter.com/N1info?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@N1info</a>! <a href="https://t.co/oRJronVWca">pic.twitter.com/oRJronVWca</a></p>&mdash; Ika Ferrer Goti&#263; N1 (@IkaFerrerGotic) <a href="https://twitter.com/IkaFerrerGotic/status/1211019745153167361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">28. Dezember 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don’t hold your breath.<br>I got millions and millions of MJ fans to pay first. &#128514;</p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1211358360315916288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">29. Dezember 2019</a></blockquote>
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[La74]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Year End Thriller: <a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MichaelJackson</a> Sales Up Year-to-Year Roughly 50%, Streaming Booms, Fans Can&#39;t Stop Til They Get Enough <a href="https://t.co/Nm82sNKtFa">https://t.co/Nm82sNKtFa</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/showbiz411?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@showbiz411</a></p>&mdash; Showbiz 411 (@showbiz411) <a href="https://twitter.com/showbiz411/status/1211882162603069442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[MJ Smarti]

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[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">THREAD//<br><br>Criminology: Labelling Theory<br><br>Case Study: Michael Jackson and the Media <a href="https://t.co/xfsGBQgCDH">pic.twitter.com/xfsGBQgCDH</a></p>&mdash; VP_Advocacy (@VP_Advocacy) <a href="https://twitter.com/VP_Advocacy/status/1212040569943408641?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">31. Dezember 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Biggest Losers of #2019<br><br>Donald Trump<br>Jussie Smollett<br>Fyre Festival<br>Lime Green Outfits<br>Blacks For Trump<br>Cucumbers<br>Lori Laughlin<br>Golden State Warriors<br>R. Kelly<br>Leaving Neverland<br>Game Of Thrones Finale<br>Tesla Cyber Truck<br>Cats Movie<br>Lil Fizz<br>The NFL<br>Oprah<br>Dominic Breazeale</p>&mdash; Isaac Hayes III (@IsaacHayes3) <a href="https://twitter.com/IsaacHayes3/status/1212039848669958144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">31. Dezember 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Glanni]

did taj ever comment about la toya hugging victor gutierrez?

 

[DifferentKindOfLady]

did taj ever comment about la toya hugging victor gutierrez?

I don't know. All I know is I never liked LaToya. To me she's fake as hell! I never know if she's telling the truth or if the emotions she feels are real.

 

[Amaya]

did taj ever comment about la toya hugging victor gutierrez?

Was she aware of who he was and what he said?

And was that NY Post cover real? Because that is so, SO ****ed. It's like something online trolls and bullies would say/do. How the hell did the media get away with such shit?

 

[PoP]

Was she aware of who he was and what he said?

And was that NY Post cover real? Because that is so, SO ****ed. It's like something online trolls and bullies would say/do. How the hell did the media get away with such shit?

Has it occurred that LaToya doesn&#8217;t know he&#8217;s responsible to creating a conspiracy against Michael by claiming he&#8217;s a p? (Yeah I censored it and that word should stay be censored)

 

[8701girl]

cant belive she would hug that loserr omg :banghead:

 

[La74]

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[DifferentKindOfLady]

Has it occurred that LaToya doesn&#8217;t know he&#8217;s responsible to creating a conspiracy against Michael by claiming he&#8217;s a p? (Yeah I censored it and that word should stay be censored)

She knows. Latoya is a person who just wants attention. That´s how she is, even Janet said that.

 

[DifferentKindOfLady]

Was she aware of who he was and what he said?

And was that NY Post cover real? Because that is so, SO ****ed. It's like something online trolls and bullies would say/do. How the hell did the media get away with such shit?

She must have been aware. She said those things about MJ too. Yeah, she said Jack Gordon made her say those things, but is that really the truth? He was a punk definitely, but she always seeked the attention she never got (she can´t sing well and yesterday I saw on youtube a video of her singing shake your body, and I was terrified! She ruined the song! And she even tried to imitate MJ which she FAILED). Latoya is no saint and I never know when she´s telling the truth. I never liked her. I love Michael since I was 5 and I hate Latoya pretty much around that time too.

 

[ScreenOrigami]

I&#8217;m not sure about this. It&#8217;s a really short clip, only 17 seconds, stitched together from 4 different parts. I&#8217;d like to see the entire footage.

I can imagine that in that moment she wasn&#8217;t aware who that guy was. Keep in mind the absurd number of people that those celebrities get to meet day in day out in wildly varying contexts. If she&#8217;s anything like me as far as remembering faces and names goes, she might just not have been aware until maybe after the fact. And to get someone from the Jackson family to hug you never seemed to be very hard anyway. :laughing:

So, unless we get to see the whole footage, I&#8217;m going to assume she was tricked into that situation.

 

[Big Apple NYC]

So here's a cute New Year's Eve Story For Ya:

I live in New York City and a bunch of my friends were going to this big party in Manhattan. I had another party to go to, so I couldn't make it.

One of said friends called me well after midnight to say she was home. I asked: Where's everybody else?

She replied: I LEFT THEM ON THE DANCE FLOOR, DANCING TO MICHAEL JACKSON!!!

All I could do was smile. The End!

 

[Paris78]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2020 is our year. “Lies run sprints, but the truth runs marathons” MJ <a href="https://t.co/HywVxVxFeU">https://t.co/HywVxVxFeU</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1212812648695222272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">2. Januar 2020</a></blockquote>
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[Antwort]

I’m not sure about this. It’s a really short clip, only 17 seconds, stitched together from 4 different parts. I’d like to see the entire footage.

I can imagine that in that moment she wasn’t aware who that guy was. Keep in mind the absurd number of people that those celebrities get to meet day in day out in wildly varying contexts. If she’s anything like me as far as remembering faces and names goes, she might just not have been aware until maybe after the fact. And to get someone from the Jackson family to hug you never seemed to be very hard anyway. :laughing:

So, unless we get to see the whole footage, I’m going to assume she was tricked into that situation.

I agree. I think LaToya deserves the benefit of the doubt. Not only as a celebrity, she meets tons of people, but as a Jackson, she has been raised to always be polite, kind and smile no matter what. Therefore, let us not jump to conclusions and think that LaToya knew who she was hugging there.

Oh, and ScreenOrigami - I'm also the same, terrible with names and faces.

So here's a cute New Year's Eve Story For Ya:

I live in New York City and a bunch of my friends were going to this big party in Manhattan. I had another party to go to, so I couldn't make it.

One of said friends called me well after midnight to say she was home. I asked: Where's everybody else?

She replied: I LEFT THEM ON THE DANCE FLOOR, DANCING TO MICHAEL JACKSON!!!

All I could do was smile. The End!

:clapping:

Lovely little story there, Big Apple NYC. Thx for sharing. In between crushing statistics and sweet little stories like these, on top of positive documentaries, Michael’s enduring power becomes not just manifest, but evident.

Keep ‘em coming everyone, keep ‘em coming – throughout the new year and the new decade.

 

[ScreenOrigami]

I agree. I think LaToya deserves the benefit of the doubt. Not only as a celebrity, she meets tons of people, but as a Jackson, she has been raised to always be polite, kind and smile no matter what. Therefore, let us not jump to conclusions and think that LaToya knew who she was hugging there.

Plus we should always keep in mind to what great lengths the Gutierrez camp is willing to go to push their sick agenda. Tricking someone into a hug for the camera is certainly not beyond them.

I think LaToya appears in the new German documentary on Monday, let&#8217;s wait what she has to say.

EDIT: Actually, I just read the YouTube description, and it seems that in 2010 LaToya was invited to talk about her murder theory with Gutierrez, which he also supported. So that&#8217;s what the interview was about. Then they talked about the earthquake in Chile and LaToya hugged him. In that context, I really don&#8217;t believe she knew who he was. Just some journalist who wanted to hear her theory.