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They did good. Sybil did everything but fight Murray (he called in the show). She was straight up. I think they did to "expose" Murray and what he is all about. great job.
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Michael Jackson’s personal physician explains how he was ‘unjustly accused’ in death
Dr. Conrad Murray, convicted of involuntary manslaughter, now tells his own story about the tragic death of pop star Michael Jackson. (Associated Press/File)
By Eric Althoff - The Washington Times - Tuesday, August 9, 2016
When Michael Jackson entreated Conrad Murray to be his personal physician in 2008, the Grenada-born cardiologist — having no idea what infamy lay before him less than a year later — gave a two-word response to the King of Pop: “Can do.”
Mr. Murray recalled to The Washington Times the late singer’s pitch for him to move from Houston to California: “I just want you; I’ve been watching you.”
Though he believed himself to be vastly overqualified and had a thriving private practice, Mr. Murray accepted Jackson’s invitation to tend to him as he prepared for “This Is It,” a concert series scheduled for London’s O2 Arena — the singer’s self-described “final curtain call.” Mr. Murray was excited about the prospect of a lighter workload and promised himself to use the extra downtime to study Rosetta Stone language programs.
“The only reason why I took [the] job was [because] Michael Jackson wanted to be a doctor, not a singer,” Mr. Murray said. “He was intrigued with medical science.”
For his services, Mr. Murray was paid $150,000 a month, according to Biography.com.
The dream ended June 25, 2009, after Mr. Murray began administering an infusion of the anesthetic propofol and returned from the restroom to find his patient not breathing. Despite his efforts — as well as those of first responders — Jackson never regained consciousness and died on the way to the hospital from his Los Angeles home.
It was the final act of a much-publicized life as noteworthy for its highs as for its tabloid-feeding lows. Jackson, a star since boyhood, was just 50.
Mr. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in 2011 and served two years at a Los Angeles County jail.
“The wounds are still fresh,” Mr. Murray said of the 7-year-old incident. “It takes time to heal.”
In his new book, “This Is It!: The Secret Lives of Dr. Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson,” the former doctor attempts to set the record straight — or at least offer his own account — of how Jackson died. And how he believes he was railroaded by the courts.
“I was an innocent man unjustly accused and then incarcerated,” Mr. Murray, 63, declared to The Times, adding that he lost his life savings, his retirement, his practice. “Everything has been consumed in the process of trying to defend myself.”
Differing opinions
The official cause of Jackson’s death, Mr. Murray said, was the propofol infusion, which he said the court claimed began at 9 a.m. and went through noon, about the time the singer died.
“So that’s a three-hour infusion. That was false,” he said.
Mr. Murray said he was unaware, when he came to work for Jackson, that the singer had a substance abuse problem — one he said was abetted by Jackson’s dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein.
Jackson went frequently to Klein’s office for the narcotic Demerol.
“Was Michael taking an opioid? Yes, a narcotic. Was I aware of that? No,” Mr. Murray said. “Did he share that information with me? No.”
Mr. Murray said that in the three years he spent in Jackson’s close circle, the singer never complained to him of pain, which he chalks up to the singer’s use of Demerol — “not for pain but for a habit.” The trial records, he said, showed Jackson was administered Demerol in “unheard-of high doses” by Klein.
Though Mr. Murray, in his own words, said Jackson would leave Klein’s office “looking like a zombie” and needed help walking out of the clinic, he maintains he had no knowledge of the Demerol habit when he prescribed the propofol drip at Jackson’s home.
“He was using a substance, a narcotic, an opioid, and it was totally clandestine,” Mr. Murray said. “I had no information at all; he never shared it.”
Mr. Murray believes it was Klein’s actions as a medical provider, and not his own, that led to Jackson’s untimely death.
“Interestingly, the day Michael died they subpoenaed Dr. Klein to be a witness,” Mr. Murray said. “These are his words, as told by his staff: He said, ‘Oh, my god, before this day is over, the police are going to come over here and arrest me.’”
So why did Mr. Murray, rather than Klein, take the fall for Jackson’s death? Mr. Murray said Klein and his staff were barred by Judge Michael Pastor from attending the trial. The convicted doctor’s theory, in his own words, is that Klein would have alleged at trial that both he and Judge Pastor were part of a “gay mafia” of West Los Angeles, something Judge Pastor was anxious to avoid.
The theory seems outlandish, even paranoid, but Mr. Murray stands by it.
“The public was presented a case that really did not happen,” he said. “They said I performed gross negligence because I had abandoned [Jackson] while he was under the propofol infusion.”
Anesthesiology expert Dr. Steven Shafer testified at Mr. Murray’s trial that the level of propofol in Jackson’s system was insufficient to cause apnea, or lack of breathing.
“He also stated that it takes a minimum of 1.35 micrograms per ml for 5 percent of patients to go into apnea, which is the reason he gave for the cause of Michael Jackson’s death,” Mr. Murray said of Dr. Shafer’s testimony. “He also showed that the results of the findings in the autopsy showed that there was no brain propofol level given by the coroner’s office. Zero. The reason why is because they didn’t find it. The drug did not get into Michael Jackson’s brain. So he did not die from apnea.”
Mr. Murray believes that Jackson, with his doctor out of the room visiting the toilet after the infusion had begun, “took matters into his own hands,” which ultimately led to cardiac arrest rather than respiratory failure.
“It’s like stealing the cookie from the cookie jar,” he said. “He likely rapidly administered medicines into his body, collapsed his circulation, and certainly we believe he had cardiac arrest, because propofol does not act in the bloodstream; as Dr. Shafer said, propofol acts on the brain. And it has to get to the brain for [the patient] to have died from apnea.”
Furthermore, prior to commencing the propofol infusion, Mr. Murray said, he found Jackson in an agitated condition, acting like “the most restless hamster.” He chalked this up to the pop star’s acute opioid withdrawal — once again, according to Mr. Murray, without his knowledge.
“Michael Jackson was cut cold turkey [by Klein] on June 22, roughly 48 hours before he passed,” Mr. Murray said. “That’s the peak incidence of acute withdrawal from opioids. And with withdrawal, certainly it creates a state of mind and a state of potential risk where you can die. You’re not going to be rational, and you take matters into your own hands.
“Michael Jackson was in withdrawal from Demerol, which led to his actions that led to his demise.”
Klein, Jackson’s dermatologist who supplied him with Demerol, died in October after a lengthy illness.
Opioid epidemic
Another pop star, Prince, died in April at his Minneapolis home as the result of accidental opioid overdose. As with Jackson, Prince “compartmentalized” his doctors to feed his drug habits, Mr. Murray believes. One doctor not knowing what drugs another doctor is prescribing for the same patient, Mr. Murray said, can lead to such tragic results.
“Unless you permit me to share my records with another doctor, I don’t have that permission,” he said, adding that perhaps the solution is to flag patients who repeatedly fill such dangerous prescriptions from different health care providers.
“Again, what was the responsibility of the doctor, whether it’s Prince or anyone else?” Mr. Murray said. “Medications are prescribed to you with directions. You sign with the pharmacist saying you understand. You sign [knowing] that there are drug interactions. You sign knowing that you should not [take them] with alcohol or on an empty stomach or with food.
“You have to follow the instructions,” Mr. Murray said. “If a doctor tells you how to take a substance but you choose to do it differently, then the patient has to bear the responsibility of the consequences.”
Whatever the ultimate cause, or causes, of Jackson’s death, he left a legacy of phenomenal entertainment and a string of extraordinarily bizarre scandals. Mr. Murray said he misses the pop star greatly. He described Jackson as a “sweet, gentle person” plagued by extreme shyness.
“He could not face anyone to discuss anything face to face,” Mr. Murray said. “He stood behind me; I was like a shield.
“I still love Michael very much. I’m sorry that Michael is not with us. But I am disappointed in Michael for not sharing with me essential history like drug addiction. He put me at false risk.”
What started as just a job for Mr. Murray ended with not only his client’s death but also the ruin of his reputation and his career. A gifted cardiologist known to few outside the medical community before going into Jackson’s employ, Mr. Murray will now forever be linked with Jackson in the history books.
“Eventually I wanted to go back to my practice, but Michael didn’t want me to do that,” Mr. Murray said. “Michael wanted me to be around him forever.”
Dr. Conrad Murray, convicted of involuntary manslaughter, now tells his own story about the tragic death of pop star Michael Jackson. (Associated Press/File)
By Eric Althoff - The Washington Times - Tuesday, August 9, 2016
When Michael Jackson entreated Conrad Murray to be his personal physician in 2008, the Grenada-born cardiologist — having no idea what infamy lay before him less than a year later — gave a two-word response to the King of Pop: “Can do.”
Mr. Murray recalled to The Washington Times the late singer’s pitch for him to move from Houston to California: “I just want you; I’ve been watching you.”
Though he believed himself to be vastly overqualified and had a thriving private practice, Mr. Murray accepted Jackson’s invitation to tend to him as he prepared for “This Is It,” a concert series scheduled for London’s O2 Arena — the singer’s self-described “final curtain call.” Mr. Murray was excited about the prospect of a lighter workload and promised himself to use the extra downtime to study Rosetta Stone language programs.
“The only reason why I took [the] job was [because] Michael Jackson wanted to be a doctor, not a singer,” Mr. Murray said. “He was intrigued with medical science.”
For his services, Mr. Murray was paid $150,000 a month, according to Biography.com.
The dream ended June 25, 2009, after Mr. Murray began administering an infusion of the anesthetic propofol and returned from the restroom to find his patient not breathing. Despite his efforts — as well as those of first responders — Jackson never regained consciousness and died on the way to the hospital from his Los Angeles home.
It was the final act of a much-publicized life as noteworthy for its highs as for its tabloid-feeding lows. Jackson, a star since boyhood, was just 50.
Mr. Murray was convicted of involuntary manslaughter in 2011 and served two years at a Los Angeles County jail.
“The wounds are still fresh,” Mr. Murray said of the 7-year-old incident. “It takes time to heal.”
In his new book, “This Is It!: The Secret Lives of Dr. Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson,” the former doctor attempts to set the record straight — or at least offer his own account — of how Jackson died. And how he believes he was railroaded by the courts.
“I was an innocent man unjustly accused and then incarcerated,” Mr. Murray, 63, declared to The Times, adding that he lost his life savings, his retirement, his practice. “Everything has been consumed in the process of trying to defend myself.”
Differing opinions
The official cause of Jackson’s death, Mr. Murray said, was the propofol infusion, which he said the court claimed began at 9 a.m. and went through noon, about the time the singer died.
“So that’s a three-hour infusion. That was false,” he said.
Mr. Murray said he was unaware, when he came to work for Jackson, that the singer had a substance abuse problem — one he said was abetted by Jackson’s dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein.
Jackson went frequently to Klein’s office for the narcotic Demerol.
“Was Michael taking an opioid? Yes, a narcotic. Was I aware of that? No,” Mr. Murray said. “Did he share that information with me? No.”
Mr. Murray said that in the three years he spent in Jackson’s close circle, the singer never complained to him of pain, which he chalks up to the singer’s use of Demerol — “not for pain but for a habit.” The trial records, he said, showed Jackson was administered Demerol in “unheard-of high doses” by Klein.
Though Mr. Murray, in his own words, said Jackson would leave Klein’s office “looking like a zombie” and needed help walking out of the clinic, he maintains he had no knowledge of the Demerol habit when he prescribed the propofol drip at Jackson’s home.
“He was using a substance, a narcotic, an opioid, and it was totally clandestine,” Mr. Murray said. “I had no information at all; he never shared it.”
Mr. Murray believes it was Klein’s actions as a medical provider, and not his own, that led to Jackson’s untimely death.
“Interestingly, the day Michael died they subpoenaed Dr. Klein to be a witness,” Mr. Murray said. “These are his words, as told by his staff: He said, ‘Oh, my god, before this day is over, the police are going to come over here and arrest me.’”
So why did Mr. Murray, rather than Klein, take the fall for Jackson’s death? Mr. Murray said Klein and his staff were barred by Judge Michael Pastor from attending the trial. The convicted doctor’s theory, in his own words, is that Klein would have alleged at trial that both he and Judge Pastor were part of a “gay mafia” of West Los Angeles, something Judge Pastor was anxious to avoid.
The theory seems outlandish, even paranoid, but Mr. Murray stands by it.
“The public was presented a case that really did not happen,” he said. “They said I performed gross negligence because I had abandoned [Jackson] while he was under the propofol infusion.”
Anesthesiology expert Dr. Steven Shafer testified at Mr. Murray’s trial that the level of propofol in Jackson’s system was insufficient to cause apnea, or lack of breathing.
“He also stated that it takes a minimum of 1.35 micrograms per ml for 5 percent of patients to go into apnea, which is the reason he gave for the cause of Michael Jackson’s death,” Mr. Murray said of Dr. Shafer’s testimony. “He also showed that the results of the findings in the autopsy showed that there was no brain propofol level given by the coroner’s office. Zero. The reason why is because they didn’t find it. The drug did not get into Michael Jackson’s brain. So he did not die from apnea.”
Mr. Murray believes that Jackson, with his doctor out of the room visiting the toilet after the infusion had begun, “took matters into his own hands,” which ultimately led to cardiac arrest rather than respiratory failure.
“It’s like stealing the cookie from the cookie jar,” he said. “He likely rapidly administered medicines into his body, collapsed his circulation, and certainly we believe he had cardiac arrest, because propofol does not act in the bloodstream; as Dr. Shafer said, propofol acts on the brain. And it has to get to the brain for [the patient] to have died from apnea.”
Furthermore, prior to commencing the propofol infusion, Mr. Murray said, he found Jackson in an agitated condition, acting like “the most restless hamster.” He chalked this up to the pop star’s acute opioid withdrawal — once again, according to Mr. Murray, without his knowledge.
“Michael Jackson was cut cold turkey [by Klein] on June 22, roughly 48 hours before he passed,” Mr. Murray said. “That’s the peak incidence of acute withdrawal from opioids. And with withdrawal, certainly it creates a state of mind and a state of potential risk where you can die. You’re not going to be rational, and you take matters into your own hands.
“Michael Jackson was in withdrawal from Demerol, which led to his actions that led to his demise.”
Klein, Jackson’s dermatologist who supplied him with Demerol, died in October after a lengthy illness.
Opioid epidemic
Another pop star, Prince, died in April at his Minneapolis home as the result of accidental opioid overdose. As with Jackson, Prince “compartmentalized” his doctors to feed his drug habits, Mr. Murray believes. One doctor not knowing what drugs another doctor is prescribing for the same patient, Mr. Murray said, can lead to such tragic results.
“Unless you permit me to share my records with another doctor, I don’t have that permission,” he said, adding that perhaps the solution is to flag patients who repeatedly fill such dangerous prescriptions from different health care providers.
“Again, what was the responsibility of the doctor, whether it’s Prince or anyone else?” Mr. Murray said. “Medications are prescribed to you with directions. You sign with the pharmacist saying you understand. You sign [knowing] that there are drug interactions. You sign knowing that you should not [take them] with alcohol or on an empty stomach or with food.
“You have to follow the instructions,” Mr. Murray said. “If a doctor tells you how to take a substance but you choose to do it differently, then the patient has to bear the responsibility of the consequences.”
Whatever the ultimate cause, or causes, of Jackson’s death, he left a legacy of phenomenal entertainment and a string of extraordinarily bizarre scandals. Mr. Murray said he misses the pop star greatly. He described Jackson as a “sweet, gentle person” plagued by extreme shyness.
“He could not face anyone to discuss anything face to face,” Mr. Murray said. “He stood behind me; I was like a shield.
“I still love Michael very much. I’m sorry that Michael is not with us. But I am disappointed in Michael for not sharing with me essential history like drug addiction. He put me at false risk.”
What started as just a job for Mr. Murray ended with not only his client’s death but also the ruin of his reputation and his career. A gifted cardiologist known to few outside the medical community before going into Jackson’s employ, Mr. Murray will now forever be linked with Jackson in the history books.
“Eventually I wanted to go back to my practice, but Michael didn’t want me to do that,” Mr. Murray said. “Michael wanted me to be around him forever.”
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Bingo.....the ramblings of a delusional narcissist.
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Poooor conrad murray. ?
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“The wounds are still fresh,” Mr. Murray said of the 7-year-old incident. “It takes time to heal.”
Lunatic.
"The convicted doctor’s theory, in his own words, is that Klein would have alleged at trial that both he and Judge Pastor were part of a “gay mafia” of West Los Angeles, something Judge Pastor was anxious to avoid."
Double lunatic.
“Unless you permit me to share my records with another doctor, I don’t have that permission,”
He didn't keep any records.
I cannot believe that Washington Times gives any column inches to this rat to defend himself in the media when he didn't defend himself during the trial.
He completely blames MJ for ruining his career, but fails to see his own actions put him into that position. He didn't have to take the job, he didn't have give propofol, he didn't have to go to toilet while putting Michael under, he didn't have to start calling strippers while Michael was under.
He never mentions those phone calls to strippers, like he totally removed them from his memory, but blames MJ that while he was in toilet, MJ put on his sparkly cloves and moonwalked to that closet where propofol was kept, shot massive dose of propofol to himself, put the propofol back to closet, moonwalked back to bed, took of the sparkly cloves off(MJ's finger prints were not found from any bottles) and all that while still on drip.
Total and utter lunatic.
Lunatic.
"The convicted doctor’s theory, in his own words, is that Klein would have alleged at trial that both he and Judge Pastor were part of a “gay mafia” of West Los Angeles, something Judge Pastor was anxious to avoid."
Double lunatic.
“Unless you permit me to share my records with another doctor, I don’t have that permission,”
He didn't keep any records.
I cannot believe that Washington Times gives any column inches to this rat to defend himself in the media when he didn't defend himself during the trial.
He completely blames MJ for ruining his career, but fails to see his own actions put him into that position. He didn't have to take the job, he didn't have give propofol, he didn't have to go to toilet while putting Michael under, he didn't have to start calling strippers while Michael was under.
He never mentions those phone calls to strippers, like he totally removed them from his memory, but blames MJ that while he was in toilet, MJ put on his sparkly cloves and moonwalked to that closet where propofol was kept, shot massive dose of propofol to himself, put the propofol back to closet, moonwalked back to bed, took of the sparkly cloves off(MJ's finger prints were not found from any bottles) and all that while still on drip.
Total and utter lunatic.
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Yup rules for MJ and rules for everyone else!
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Incredible how the media give a platform for a convicted felon to tell his side of the story over and over and over again
but they never report MJ's side of the Chandler and Arvizo story even though he wasn't convicted of anything.
Now I didn't expect THAT one.
Didn't he say that MJ was in horrible pain because of his feet and he didn't want to reveal it instead he tried to suppress the pain with painkillers?
He didn't go to Klein for demerol but for botox treatments to prevent dehydration during the rehearsals. Botox is used to stop excessive sweating and fillers because he wanted to look good for the show. MJ had a needle phobia so he wanted to be sedated for safety.
If he had been addicted to opioids then how does Murray explain he didn't go to Klein every day or at all before the rehearsals started?
He wanted to get addicted for the show? Ridiculous.
He didn't spend three years in his close circle. He saw him sporadically before Apr 2009.
His own expert witness refused to say that MJ was addicted to opioids. And he looked at the Klein records,
here's the testimony of Dr.Robert Waldman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUGswAgV3A&t=19m39s
The documents were the Klein records of when he gave MJ demerol and how much.
There was no evidence that MJ took any opiod on his own during those weeks, he only got it from Klein
and the medical records do not prove that he was addicted to it.
He said that he told MJ his veins looked like those of a drug addict. But at the same time he had no idea why those veins would look like that. All right.
Stealing the cookie with gloves on which later somehow vanish in the ether.
No gloves were found in the room and no MJ fingerprints were found on the cookie or the cookie jar.
Now it's medicines, plural. Previously it was just he self injected propofol.
Nevermind that MJ never took any drug without a doctor's supervision this time around he just did it because?
Let's assume he wakes up and wants to go back to sleep. He doesn't see Murray in the room so he would call for him.
Why wouldn't he wait for Murray to come back why would it be so urgent to take propofol himself?
Nevermind that Klein didn't give any drug to MJ which killed him. Murray did.
Nevermind that Klein wasn't even in that room. Murray was.
Nevermind that no opiod was found in his system only the drugs Murray gave him.
It was still Klein's fault.
Then how come he did not show any such symptoms on other days when he didn't get demerol from Klein during all those days when Murray gave him propofol?
Do you slander every one you love or just Michael?
but they never report MJ's side of the Chandler and Arvizo story even though he wasn't convicted of anything.
Now I didn't expect THAT one.
Didn't he say that MJ was in horrible pain because of his feet and he didn't want to reveal it instead he tried to suppress the pain with painkillers?
He didn't go to Klein for demerol but for botox treatments to prevent dehydration during the rehearsals. Botox is used to stop excessive sweating and fillers because he wanted to look good for the show. MJ had a needle phobia so he wanted to be sedated for safety.
If he had been addicted to opioids then how does Murray explain he didn't go to Klein every day or at all before the rehearsals started?
He wanted to get addicted for the show? Ridiculous.
He didn't spend three years in his close circle. He saw him sporadically before Apr 2009.
His own expert witness refused to say that MJ was addicted to opioids. And he looked at the Klein records,
here's the testimony of Dr.Robert Waldman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUGswAgV3A&t=19m39s
The documents were the Klein records of when he gave MJ demerol and how much.
There was no evidence that MJ took any opiod on his own during those weeks, he only got it from Klein
and the medical records do not prove that he was addicted to it.
He said that he told MJ his veins looked like those of a drug addict. But at the same time he had no idea why those veins would look like that. All right.
Stealing the cookie with gloves on which later somehow vanish in the ether.
No gloves were found in the room and no MJ fingerprints were found on the cookie or the cookie jar.
Now it's medicines, plural. Previously it was just he self injected propofol.
Nevermind that MJ never took any drug without a doctor's supervision this time around he just did it because?
Let's assume he wakes up and wants to go back to sleep. He doesn't see Murray in the room so he would call for him.
Why wouldn't he wait for Murray to come back why would it be so urgent to take propofol himself?
Nevermind that Klein didn't give any drug to MJ which killed him. Murray did.
Nevermind that Klein wasn't even in that room. Murray was.
Nevermind that no opiod was found in his system only the drugs Murray gave him.
It was still Klein's fault.
Then how come he did not show any such symptoms on other days when he didn't get demerol from Klein during all those days when Murray gave him propofol?
Do you slander every one you love or just Michael?
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Its all about the AGENDA
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What do you mean?
Media have agenda and wants to portray MJ in the bad light and they get Conrat to repeat all the tabloid tales form last 20-30 years?
On different note, I haven't read or watched his interviews other than what is posted here or what I can read from headlines without clicking the article. So far Wally(Walgreen) and Deborah are the only ones left out of his lunatic rants, so maybe they are going to get their share of psycho rant.
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Basically bubs yeah. Medias agenda for decades has been to destroy him turn him into everything we know they call him .they keep peddling these lies to keep the public brainwashed ram all those lies down the publics throats.
Along comes murray quite happy to support every lie that has ever been told. The media are quite happy to have him run his mouth in their rags.
Along comes murray quite happy to support every lie that has ever been told. The media are quite happy to have him run his mouth in their rags.
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When Michael was alive they had an agenda to destroy him and his legacy.
No that he's gone the agenda is to destroy his legacy.
The agenda is very obvious, and Conrat helps the agenda.
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^ I think the media is split now...
prior to his passing the agenda was clear to tare him down! Now it is whatever wave they can ride... I do see a lot more sensitivity and openness to Michael 2009-2016.. But if a 'juicy' story presents itself they will take it..
At the very least many (not all) media outlets will make it clear this or that is an allegation not fact.. They will even publically question it! example TMZ with Conrad recently
prior to his passing the agenda was clear to tare him down! Now it is whatever wave they can ride... I do see a lot more sensitivity and openness to Michael 2009-2016.. But if a 'juicy' story presents itself they will take it..
At the very least many (not all) media outlets will make it clear this or that is an allegation not fact.. They will even publically question it! example TMZ with Conrad recently
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Yeah but you have to question why tmz did that. Do you really think its out of the goodness of their own hearts? As if . More than likely like with robson they didnt get the story radar did.so they are p***** and want to undermine a rival publication. By po poing the story or ignoring it altogether.
To think some of these rags have suddenly found a moral backbone.well pick a landlocked country and ill sell you a house with a sea view?
To think some of these rags have suddenly found a moral backbone.well pick a landlocked country and ill sell you a house with a sea view?
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^ I was talking about when they interviewed Conrad about the book at the TMZ guys were getting mad at him and one couldn't take it and basically called out the sh**... Said something along the lines, that he ha to say this.. a lot of people believe he is not here with us because of you.
they tried to be 'respectful;' to him but it was the interviewers that had enough... so yeah I think that was from the heart!
they tried to be 'respectful;' to him but it was the interviewers that had enough... so yeah I think that was from the heart!
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It wont work. First of all, we have the results of what MJ died from and it was MEDS that Murray gave. It does NOT matter what others doctors may or may not hae done, what Murray gave is what killed Jackson. And what make it worst, Murray did NOT have the right equipment to monitor prophol and what is even more bad, Murray is NOT a anesthesiologist and he LEFT MJ ALONE and did not perform CPR correct. Murray can say what he wants, in the end, HE KILLED Mike.
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I doubt they would have acted like that if they had got the exclusive. Motives motives
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And money.....money!
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Michael Jackson’s Killer, Dr. Conrad Murray, “Publishes” E Book And No One Buys It
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Someone asked me today if the “book” written by Dr. Conrad Murray, the man who killed Michael Jackson, had been published.
I had to look on Amazon.
It does seem like Murray released his e book “This Is It! The Secret Lives of Dr. Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson” on July 26th.
The public has responded with a gigantic Yawn. “Secret Lives” is currently number 25,408 on amazon.com, on their paid Kindle chart.
I didn’t download it, and won’t pay for it. I guess hardly anyone else will, either.
If you know anyone who actually did do that, ask them to email me at showbiz411@gmail.com
It really doesn’t matter what Murray writes. He was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. He should be in jail still, but was released because of overcrowding. His medical license has been suspended or revoked in the states where he practiced. The book will never see hardcover.
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by Roger Friedman - August 10, 2016 5:27 pm
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Someone asked me today if the “book” written by Dr. Conrad Murray, the man who killed Michael Jackson, had been published.
I had to look on Amazon.
It does seem like Murray released his e book “This Is It! The Secret Lives of Dr. Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson” on July 26th.
The public has responded with a gigantic Yawn. “Secret Lives” is currently number 25,408 on amazon.com, on their paid Kindle chart.
I didn’t download it, and won’t pay for it. I guess hardly anyone else will, either.
If you know anyone who actually did do that, ask them to email me at showbiz411@gmail.com
It really doesn’t matter what Murray writes. He was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. He should be in jail still, but was released because of overcrowding. His medical license has been suspended or revoked in the states where he practiced. The book will never see hardcover.
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Annita;4160434 said:
Unfortunately Conrat Money got what he wanted by selling his story to the tabloids - cash and media attention. I doubt anyone ever thought that the book would do well...or only perhaps in his and his publicists deranged minds.
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Annita;4160434 said:
:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:
Someone should hack / write a virus for kindle that ONLY destroys CMs ugly ramblings. So, when people download the crapload, all they get is:
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Michael Jackson's physician demands £230k to appear on I'm a Celeb (But read to the end.......)
Conrad Murray has told ITV bosses that he is keen to go into the Jungle this winter.
But he wants an extra payment of £30,000 on top of his appearance fee because of his “medical skills”.
The cash demand comes after the desperate doctor, 63, was convicted of manslaughter and banned from practising following the King of Pop’s death in 2011.
A source said: “Murray is trying to pull out all the stops to get more money.
He thinks that ITV can help solve his finance issues. And the doctor idea is one of the ways that he feels that they can bolster his money
Murray has also promised that he will reveal secrets about Jackson to help make the show ‘explosive’ and gain headlines worldwide.”
The money demand comes after Jackson’s son Prince wrote to ITV begging them not to let Murray on I’m A Celebrity.
An ITV spokesman denied yesterday that the show was in talks with Murray.
He added: “We have never approached this man to be a contestant on I’m A Celebrity.”
(From a UK tabloid 4 Oct 16)
(Perhaps a wealthy benefactor can find an island in the Bermuda triangle somewhere that Murray, Robson and Safechuck can all disappear to... I wish!)
Conrad Murray has told ITV bosses that he is keen to go into the Jungle this winter.
But he wants an extra payment of £30,000 on top of his appearance fee because of his “medical skills”.
The cash demand comes after the desperate doctor, 63, was convicted of manslaughter and banned from practising following the King of Pop’s death in 2011.
A source said: “Murray is trying to pull out all the stops to get more money.
He thinks that ITV can help solve his finance issues. And the doctor idea is one of the ways that he feels that they can bolster his money
Murray has also promised that he will reveal secrets about Jackson to help make the show ‘explosive’ and gain headlines worldwide.”
The money demand comes after Jackson’s son Prince wrote to ITV begging them not to let Murray on I’m A Celebrity.
An ITV spokesman denied yesterday that the show was in talks with Murray.
He added: “We have never approached this man to be a contestant on I’m A Celebrity.”
(From a UK tabloid 4 Oct 16)
(Perhaps a wealthy benefactor can find an island in the Bermuda triangle somewhere that Murray, Robson and Safechuck can all disappear to... I wish!)
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Still spreading lies.
Like this part
(Perhaps a wealthy benefactor can find an island in the Bermuda triangle somewhere that Murray, Robson and Safechuck can all disappear to... I wish!)
Like this part
(Perhaps a wealthy benefactor can find an island in the Bermuda triangle somewhere that Murray, Robson and Safechuck can all disappear to... I wish!)
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A bit more background from another media source. Nice reading, if true....
EXCLUSIVE: TV PRODUCERS WALK AWAY FROM A DEAL WITH CONRAD MURRAY
Michael Jackson‘s killer doctor has been prescribed the ultimate bad pill – his dreams of making big bucks on a UK reality show have been dashed. Conrad Murray was hoping to cash in on his terminal time with Michael Jackson for the ITV prime-time reality series, I’m A Celebrity. Insiders say that MJ’s son Prince had a huge impact on the producers’ decision to walk away from a deal allowing Murray to cash in on his killing of the King Of Pop.
After holding initial early talks, the producers passed on Murray – who is understood to have wanted as much as $300k. Publicly the channel then took the unprecedented step of saying they “never approached this man,” but his PR insisted conversations had taken place.
The desperate doctor, 63, was convicted of manslaughter and banned from practicing after injecting a fatal dose of anesthesia Propofol into Jackson in June 2009. He, through his reps, has tried to push himself into TV entertainment to make money on the back of his crime.
However, insiders say that ITV has “deep-seated concerns paying a felon and killer” as well as “legal issues.” Insiders say that one potential celebrity camp mate also vowed to stage a “mass walk out” if Murray joined the show.
A well-placed source said:
Murray was a consideration for the show at one stage, but the team suddenly realized that Murray’s inclusion would be a nightmare. Firstly they knew Prince and the Jacksons were not going to stop in their drive to condemn them for doing this. And they suddenly understood that reading Murray’s books showed that he felt he was innocent. On top of that some of the claims that he faced making would leave them legally exposed. And of course the issue would be that other celebrities may stage a mutiny at the notion of being on a show with a killer – and that would be a disaster for business.”
The source added: “One of the celebrities had also told producers that they would not share the screen with Murray as they were so angered by his behavior and comments on Michael in his book. They have vowed to stage walk out against him – and that would be disastrous. Murray simply saw the show as a way to make lots of money and push his agenda to the world. But that has been taken away from him. He has pushed hard to make them take him.”
A few weeks ago Prince tried to derail former physician Murray’s bid to appear on the show. He and other family members lobbied the network ITV to drop their plans to feature Murray on the show.
Murray’s publicist Max Markson had confirmed in July that Murray was “talking to the show’s producers about having Conrad in the jungle. ”
EXCLUSIVE: TV PRODUCERS WALK AWAY FROM A DEAL WITH CONRAD MURRAY
Michael Jackson‘s killer doctor has been prescribed the ultimate bad pill – his dreams of making big bucks on a UK reality show have been dashed. Conrad Murray was hoping to cash in on his terminal time with Michael Jackson for the ITV prime-time reality series, I’m A Celebrity. Insiders say that MJ’s son Prince had a huge impact on the producers’ decision to walk away from a deal allowing Murray to cash in on his killing of the King Of Pop.
After holding initial early talks, the producers passed on Murray – who is understood to have wanted as much as $300k. Publicly the channel then took the unprecedented step of saying they “never approached this man,” but his PR insisted conversations had taken place.
The desperate doctor, 63, was convicted of manslaughter and banned from practicing after injecting a fatal dose of anesthesia Propofol into Jackson in June 2009. He, through his reps, has tried to push himself into TV entertainment to make money on the back of his crime.
However, insiders say that ITV has “deep-seated concerns paying a felon and killer” as well as “legal issues.” Insiders say that one potential celebrity camp mate also vowed to stage a “mass walk out” if Murray joined the show.
A well-placed source said:
Murray was a consideration for the show at one stage, but the team suddenly realized that Murray’s inclusion would be a nightmare. Firstly they knew Prince and the Jacksons were not going to stop in their drive to condemn them for doing this. And they suddenly understood that reading Murray’s books showed that he felt he was innocent. On top of that some of the claims that he faced making would leave them legally exposed. And of course the issue would be that other celebrities may stage a mutiny at the notion of being on a show with a killer – and that would be a disaster for business.”
The source added: “One of the celebrities had also told producers that they would not share the screen with Murray as they were so angered by his behavior and comments on Michael in his book. They have vowed to stage walk out against him – and that would be disastrous. Murray simply saw the show as a way to make lots of money and push his agenda to the world. But that has been taken away from him. He has pushed hard to make them take him.”
A few weeks ago Prince tried to derail former physician Murray’s bid to appear on the show. He and other family members lobbied the network ITV to drop their plans to feature Murray on the show.
Murray’s publicist Max Markson had confirmed in July that Murray was “talking to the show’s producers about having Conrad in the jungle. ”
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Did the company ever admit they had an intrest? Could be nothing more than a made up story now needing a another made up story as to why its not happening.(hopefully)