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I'm gonna try to make sure I go to a book store or two and hide the books... Just a habit I have.. pro MJ stuff when I'm at a store, highlight it somehow, and anti MJ hide.
 
How ironic that A. V. Club is the one publishing this.
One of the most anti MJ site that is out there with all the sickos lurking there.
They are just as responsible for ruining MJ as much as the rest of the filthy media
and now they have the gall to ridicule Murray's book? They are not better than Murray.
 
SarahJ;4158755 said:
“I loved the way I dedicated my services to her, it was totally selfless because when I agreed to serve her, I literally had no idea then that she was widely known. That was despite having been given her name and demographics by her spokesperson. Giving of myself to an unknown stranger for no compensation is why I love this memory so much, and how it came to be. I still feel the love and fulfillment in my heart. The feeling will last forever. ​The story highlights my willingness to help others with no preconditions, only my love, altruism, and humility, to always give unconditionally. [Her staff asked] “Will there be a cost for your service doctor?” I answered NO!”


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:lol: :lol: :lol: Yep that gif says it all really dont it
 
Dr. Oz to air interview with Michael's killer.

Why won't this man (Conrat Murderer) just go away.:(
I hate him SO much....
Here's a link to a teaser video (that I couldn't get to play for me, so I haven't watched. I'm not sure if I want to watch it though).
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Re: Dr. Oz to air interview with Michael's killer.

One fake doctor interviewing another :smilerolleyes:

I don't understand how this is even legal. Isn't there a law that prohibits convicted criminals from profiting off their crimes?
 
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LindavG said:
One fake doctor interviewing another :smilerolleyes:

I don't understand how this is even legal. Isn't there a law that prohibits convicted criminals from profiting off their crimes?
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The media gives a megaphone to everyone eager to drag MJ through the mud. They have been doing this for 30 years.
Nevermind that Murray's victim is not here to respond.
 
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Why won't this man (Conrat Murderer) just go away.:(
I hate him SO much....
Here's a link to a teaser video
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The clip is ridiculous. Apparently part of a new thing he's doing "what really happened to your favorite stars-Carrie Fisher, Paul Walker, Michael, etc."

Good grief!!! How MANY of these shows do we need??? Reelz is running at least 3 of them, including an Autopsy show on celebrities, HLN is running its own series "What Really Happened" with Hill Harper, Barbara Walters was doing some with her new ID show-THEY'RE ALL THE SAME!!!! And nobody cares-these shows can NOT be getting great ratings.


ETA: I guess everybody is jumping on this celebrity death bandwagon-ABC interviewed Bobby Brown last night and it was all about Whitney and Bobby Kristina. And in the middle they had a commercial for a show called "Diana's last 100 Days." This is getting unreal.
 
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For those who can't see it, nothing much is shown in the video regarding Murray. Only one question and a statement. Those being:

'If you didn't kill Michael Jackson, who did?' and 'There was a doctor in the house and he ends up dead'.
 
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LindavG said:
One fake doctor interviewing another :smilerolleyes:

I don't understand how this is even legal. Isn't there a law that prohibits convicted criminals from profiting off their crimes?
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Well we should all know by now there are rules that only apply to MJ, and no one else. I am not surprised by this.....even Anderson Cooper interviewed this piece of scum for $$$$$$ and ratings.
 
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And you can thank the jackson family for allowing him to make money off his crime in their obsession to get money
 
I've merged the thread about the Dr. Oz interview with this generalised Murray thread. I've done this as don't feel we need to promote this f*ckery for want of a better word!

I've also removed the link to the teaser video, I watched it and there isn't anything worth seeing there. Not worth adding to the traffic to that site from people clicking here! All that's said is exactly what is in Bad7's post above and the video does not show a single word spoken by Murray.

Thanks guys.
 
StaceyMJ said:
I've merged the thread about the Dr. Oz interview with this generalised Murray thread. I've done this as don't feel we need to promote this f*ckery for want of a better word!

I've also removed the link to the teaser video, I watched it and there isn't anything worth seeing there. Not worth adding to the traffic to that site from people clicking here! All that's said is exactly what is in Bad7's post above and the video does not show a single word spoken by Murray.

Thanks guys.
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Thanks for moving it!
I would have put it here in the first place had I known/remembered this thread existed, and I only posted the link as proof that this mess was indeed happening, but I guess there isn't a need for it now that I know what was said.:)
 
Dr Oz inviting him on the show??

We will see how Dr Oz handles this one, if he was on and he laid it on him for irresponsible practice etc. I really would not mind seeing that... But I don't see him actually doing that..
 
KOPV said:
Dr Oz inviting him on the show??

We will see how Dr Oz handles this one, if he was on and he laid it on him for irresponsible practice etc. I really would not mind seeing that... But I don't see him actually doing that..
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Neither do I......it will probably be a soft ball interview where Conrat will spew all kinds of vile things about MJ etc......and yet he won't be questioned or criticized (by ambulance chaser Dr OZ), you know the usual one-sided shit that gets thrown at MJ in these type of interviews or docos that claim to be fair and balanced.....but are really designed to dehumanize him and make him look guilty.
 
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Goddess4Real said:
Neither do I......it will probably be a soft ball interview where Conrat will spew all kinds of vile things about MJ etc......and yet he won't be questioned or criticized (by ambulance chaser Dr OZ), you know the usual one-sided shit that gets thrown at MJ in these type of interviews or docos that claim to be fair and balanced.....but are really designed to dehumanize him and make him look guilty.
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Oz asked if it wasn't you who killed him?

Murray will say Michael killed himself.
And of course Oz won't ask then why they didn't find MJ's fingerprints on any of
the propofol bottles or syringes or how he could inject 2000 mg propofol into himself.

Also Murray will keep saying that MJ begged for his ""milk"
nevermind the fact that Murray himself admitted to the police that
MJ although reluctantly but took the benzo pills when Murray insisted
that he should try. Which pretty much proves MJ just wanted to get sleep
not to get propofol for the sake of getting propofol.

He will say that he was a drug addict even though Murray himself
said in his book that propofol is not addictive. So he was killed with a drug
to which he was not addicted. Oops.

As for addicted to demerol? Murray's own expert witness refused to say
that based on Klein's actual medical records!
It also makes no sense that someone would decide to get addicted to demerol
again just when he signed that contract to do those 50 shows!
How come he didn't need Klein's demerol in Jan and Feb and March 2009
but all of a sudden he needed it in Apr May and June 2009?

Of course Klein said the he didn't give him more than medically was necessary
to to the botox and filler procedures. I think MJ just wanted to look good for the shows
and botox is also used to prevent excessive sweating which often caused dehydration during
those concerts. Those are the reasons why he started to go to Klein In Apr not demerol addiction.
 
just fyi.. propofol or any other similar products are not needed for things like botox... of course if someone is getting them in the arm pits there could be some pain, but general botox, people do it often.. it's a little poke, nothing major.. in fact the needle for propofol would create more uncomfort than botox needles.

btw Mike was seen coming out of Kleins office before rehearsal began, so we really don't know what he was seeing him for.. getting botox for sweat prevention before the fact... IDK! And in April he was seen leaving his office 7 times within 10 days.. started it back up 4 days after in May.

That's not botox
 
KOPV said:
just fyi.. propofol or any other similar products are not needed for things like botox... of course if someone is getting them in the arm pits there could be some pain, but general botox, people do it often.. it's a little poke, nothing major.. in fact the needle for propofol would create more uncomfort than botox needles.
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Klein did not give propofol to MJ. He gave him demerol and midazolam.
Debbie said MJ had needle phobia and Dr. Metzger said his pain threshold was abnormally low.
So maybe normally people don't need painkillers for botox but if used around the eyes and or
around the body to prevent sweating it makes sense to sedate the patient. He could lose an eye
if he panics or even just moves or just doesn't want to feel like he is being poked all over the place.

KOPV said:
btw Mike was seen coming out of Kleins office before rehearsal began, so we really don't know what he was seeing him for..
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He started to visit Klein after he signed the contract in March. Not in Jan not in Feb 2009 not in 2008 not in 2007 or 2006.
And we know what he got because Klein unlike Murray had medical records. He got botox and fillers. And he got demerol and midazolam. Not enough to support addiction, even Murray's own drug expert admitted that in court.
Here's that part of his testimony:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBUGswAgV3A&t=19m39s

KOPV said:
getting botox for sweat prevention before the fact... IDK! And in April he was seen leaving his office 7 times within 10 days.. started it back up 4 days after in May.

That's not botox
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How do you know it was before the fact? Do you know exactly when he started to get botox for sweat prevention?
Even if it had been before the rehearsals MJ could still dance in his home for hours, he could still lose a lot of water.

Who saw him leaving Klein's office 7 times within 10 days in Apr?
And how does that prove that it couldn't be botox?

If MJ didn't need Klein before he signed the contract why did he suddenly need him after that?
If he had wanted opiods he could have got them easily without Klein and why would he want
injections when he hated needles and there are opiod pills easily available?
And why would he want to get addicted to opiods again just at the time when
he knew he had to be in top form and healthy and strong and he asked Kai Chez to cook healthy meals
and he told her he wanted her to keep him healthy?

He wanted to eat healthy but at the same time he wanted to get addicted to opiods? Makes absolutely no sense.
 
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^ Often when Michael left his house it was documented in some fashion.. (we have numerous pictures from paparazzi, fans fallowing him etc.)

Auditions for This is It took place April 13-15, they started working at center stage shortly after. the first couple weeks were for meetings (MJ and staff part) and dancers learning the choreography. June 1st they moved rehearsal to The Forum, when staff was doing this.. Michael shot Thriller 3D, it was June 6th that Michael attended rehearsal at The Forum for the first time.. This is more so the timeframe Michael started to rehearse with the dancers. large portion of the This Is It rehearsals that we see are from there..
 
KOPV said:
^ Often when Michael left his house it was documented in some fashion.. (we have numerous pictures from paparazzi, fans fallowing him etc.)
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Yes he did go to Klein that is not the question but where does this 7 times within 10 days in Apr come from?
That's very specific not just someone said they saw him leave the house. What makes you think MJ went to Klein 7 times in 10 days in Apr?

KOPV said:
Auditions for This is It took place April 13-15, they started working at center stage shortly after. the first couple weeks were for meetings (MJ and staff part) and dancers learning the choreography. June 1st they moved rehearsal to The Forum, when staff was doing this.. Michael shot Thriller 3D, it was June 6th that Michael attended rehearsal at The Forum for the first time.. This is more so the timeframe Michael started to rehearse with the dancers. large portion of the This Is It rehearsals that we see are from there..
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So clearly the visits to Klein started after MJ signed the contracts and was preparing for that tour.
That is not a coincidence. It makes no sense at all that right then and there MJ decided he wanted to get addicted to demerol again while at the same time he was training with Lou Ferrigno and asked Kai Chez to prepare healthy meals for him. He clearly wanted to be strong and healthy for the tour and he wanted to look good too. He didn't want to lose too much water either, he had problems with that during the HIStory tour. He was taking Nurse Lee's supplements too between Feb and Apr 2009 because he wanted to be healthy and be able to sleep normally.

If he didn't need Klein before Apr why did he suddenly need him after Apr? Not for he drugs for sure. That just makes no sense.
 
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^ Yeah, dates specific from a MS word doc I made years back from various pics, articles, and fans that saw him.. It was fairly easy for me to hear these type of things simply because some of the fans that stayed out of Michaels house I was in touch with for a while.. Every single day Michael when Michael would leave, fans would be out there waiting.. some would fallow him to where he's going etc..

After he passed I tried putting things together to create a timeline to see if what the conrad case would be accurate or not. especially when they first started to report that Michael (at first they were saying) he did not show up to rehearsal on June 18th.. Which I KNOW was incorrect because I personally saw him that day, heard him rehearsal at the Forum.

There are times earlier that he visited Klien but I too believe they did have to do with This Is It.. just not only Botox for it though.. it does not last forever u know?



PS. Dr Oz did a pretty good job with Conrad.. Conrad of course as delusional as always
 
KOPV said:
There are times earlier that he visited Klien but I too believe they did have to do with This Is It.. just not only Botox for it though.. it does not last forever u know?
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I think he also got fillers to look good. All of that involves needles and he hated needles. And if you face is poked you'd better be knocked out if you don't want to lose an eye or something.

Botox doesn't last forever that's why he would need it every day, no? If he was dancing for hours every day he wouldn't want to lose liters of water.

the media made it look like MJ went to Klein because he was addicted to opiods and he wanted daily demerol injections.
That's a bunch of bull. He didn't want that before Apr but in Apr all of a sudden he did? Why?

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PS. Dr Oz did a pretty good job with Conrad.. Conrad of course as delusional as always
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Which means what? What did Oz do?
 
botox lasts several months..3/6 months depending on the area and how naturally strong the muscles are in the area.. As far as what Klein was doing with Michael, it can only be speculation.. Klein did say he was using fillers on his nose etc.. I can't say if that's true or not. He did visit him more often than any botox treatment would need.


DR Oz. questioned Conrad.. put him in a warm seat.. what I mean by that is, he was not easy on him, but was not super aggressive either.. I'd say fair under the circumstance.
 
KOPV said:
DR Oz. questioned Conrad.. put him in a warm seat.. what I mean by that is, he was not easy on him, but was not super aggressive either.. I'd say fair under the circumstance.
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http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/oz-...chicken-your-fast-food?video_id=5412402335001

Based on this Oz only gave him a platform to spread the same old lies like he accidentally recorded MJ because MJ was a snorer. Come on, then where is the snoring on that tape? He did nothing but humiliate MJ again and Oz assisted him.

And that he did nothing unethical because MJ didn't tell him he was an addict. Gimme a break.
He gave him propofol because he couldn't sleep! And I don't believe for a second that MJ couldn't sleep because he was an addict but for the sake or argument let's accept that as fact.

What difference does it make why he couldn't sleep? Murray's argument that MJ injected himself while he was not in
the room because he was addicted to demerol makes absolutely no sense.

Now he says MJ died because of a reaction to propofol combined with withdrawal from demerol.
 
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Dr Oz made it pretty clear he did not believe him, and told him that he should feel guilty.. considering people tune in as DR OZ fans, that is better than just giving him an open platform to say what he wants without criticism.. It's more than I expected from DR Oz. I thought he was going to be more PC about it, which he tried but made his points that what murray did was unethical and did not make sense.
 
How does this man manage to get 'publicity' (even adverse publicity) timed for June....

Michael Jackson's doctor under probe in Trinidad and Tobago
Wednesday, June 14, 2017

PORT OF SPAIN, Trinidad (CMC) — The Trinidad and Tobago Government says it is investigating a report that the Grenadian-born cardiologist Dr Conrad Murray, who in 2011 was convicted and jailed for the involuntary manslaughter death of pop legend Michael Jackson, is attending to patients at a local private medical facility without the requisite medical licence.

In a statement, the Ministry of Health said it was liaising with the Council of the Medical Board of Trinidad and Tobago on the matter.

In the statement the Ministry of Health said that according to the Medical Board Act, Chapter 29:50, the Council of the Medical Board of Trinidad and Tobago is responsible for the registration/licensure of medical practitioners, and the enforcement against individuals who are who are not duly registered/licensed but purport to practise medicine.

It said that notwithstanding, in order to ensure the safety of the public, the Ministry of Health was investigating the matter and was liaising with the council in that respect.

The release said further enquiries into this matter should be directed to the Council of the Medical Board of Trinidad and Tobago.

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To operate as a medical doctor in Trinidad and Tobago, one must be registered and licensed. That process is managed by the Medical Board of Trinidad and Tobago as established in the Medical Board Act Chapter 29:50. The Medical Board is empowered by the act to sanction anyone who violates the law by practicing without license.

Doctors can be censured or reprimanded, suspended for no more than two years, their names erased from the register, the Medical Specialist Register or their temporary license revoked.

Medical licenses, once applied must be renewed annually. The Sunday Newsday is reporting that an administrative officer at the Medical Board confirmed that Murray was registered to practice in Trinidad and Tobago in 1999. He last renewed his license in 2004.

The source also told the Sunday Newsday the doctor tried to renew it in 2016, but because more than ten years had lapsed since he was last registered there, he was required to provide valid licenses and letters proving that he was in good standing with the Medical Boards.

Because he was unable to do so, he was not granted a license.

Murray had practised in the United States. It was there that he met and worked for Michael Jackson. Because he was tried and convicted of Jackson's involuntary manslaughter, his Texas medical license was revoked, and his California and Nevada licenses were suspended.

Trinidad and Tobago's Chief Medical Officer Dr Roshan Parasram told the Sunday Newsday “We (Health Ministry) will liaise directly with the Medical Board to verify whether he does or doesn’t have his licence to practice. And if he does not, through our legal department and the Medical Board we will take the necessary action to deal with the issue in order to protect the health of the public at large
 
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