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[dangerous dave]

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Vocals aside, the more I listen to this song, the more I think it's terrible. And I mean by the production of it. It sounds way too copy and pasted. It wasn't done properly. It never should have been worked on, yet alone released.

agreed my man

 

[MJMarty]

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"do you know where your children are" has the MJ SOUND
Breaking News has not. If you disagree then you don't know the man's work

Recorded 15 years apart... I don't think this is the best comparison but HOLD MY HAND is! It was recorded around the same time, its definitely MJ!

 

[L.T.D]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

Honestly guys, i've sat in work all day today just thinking.


What the hell just happened.

I actually cannot believe that Sony just put that out there as an authentic MJ song. Mrs. Jackson, Paris, Prince, Taj, Latoya...I apologise deeply for doubting you.

If Sony dont pull this crap from the album then many, many fans will boycott it.

 

[Sharon B. Sidney]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

If it's Michael I think someone compressed his voice, he was sick, or taking medication.

The song sounds great but it is not Michael's natural voice. I have heard him sing right beside me and he does not sound like that. He sounds as amazing or moreso than on the actual recordings. Which is a rarity.

Digital technology can make my first soprano voice sound like a man's or anything else so yes it could be him but if so it has been digitally altered- moreso compressed, which would decrease the essence of his voice.

It is sad that we cannot tell...

 

[ginvid]

Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

"do you know where your children are" has the MJ SOUND
Breaking News has not. If you disagree then you don't know the man's work

Can you stop saying things like this please. I don't know how many times it has to be asked, really!

It alienates fans and makes it seem like you have to agree or you know nothing. Let people have their opinion. YOU persoanlly may be able to say how you feel. But as a collective (that means all) we cannot say until things are made more clear. So please, just stop with that. No really. Stop.

 

[Ingelief]

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whetter it is or it is not

i dont like the song at all... to messy like derek1984 said i agree

 

[dangerous dave]

According to Taryll, on the album there'll be more supposedly fake songs.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/6s61oa
to all the mj fans… regarding the song "breaking news" i am so sorry you have to deal with this. my uncle loved you so much and would not want it this way. However there are songs that ARE my uncle singing on the upcoming album and I will support those 100% But I will not support "Breaking News" and a few others because it simply is not him. They tried to fool me and they tried to fool you. I told them it would never happen.

KILL ME.... For once the reports were true....

 

[mich]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

100000% noooo

 

[Ingelief]

Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

agreed ginvid.. we are all untitled to our own opinion..

but he thats what i said a few days ago and then people whises me dead so,,,

 

[sharon007]

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you just posted a song that IS Michael I am not convinced that 'Breaking News' is really him. I have been listening to MJ for over 20 years and heard all the songs so my ear is well trained to Michaels sound. Something doesn't sound right with 'Breaking News' even Taryll said its not MJ.

 

[dangerous dave]

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Can you stop[ saying things like this please. I don't know how many times it has to be asked, really!

It alienates fans and makes it seem like you have to agree or you know nothing. Let people have their opinion. YOU persoanlly may be able to say how you feel. But as a collective (that means all) we cannot say until things are made more clear. So please, just stop with that. No really. Stop.

I am sorry; don't want to disturb but most people agrees anyway that it's not the song with original Michael Jackson vocals.

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

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Michael not being here still doesn't give Sony the right to market this as a full Michael Jackson song, even if tons of production had to be done after the initial demo. They think we're stupid, it wouldn't be so much of a big deal if they actually released it with a disclaimer or something stating what had to be done and who's voices are meshed together with Michael's. But they won't, they know the vast majority of people would by this CD anyway, just to be "Hip" and be a fan now, and if we're lucky, they'll give full credit to Jason, and whoever else is responsible for this, in the fine print of a small booklet...Way to go Sony, you've disgraced Michael's name, once again.

 

[lilseanb]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

Sony and the estate are opening themselves up to one hell of a law suit if they say its MJ and its not. do you really think they would do that?

Do you really think that a long time friend Teddy Riley would work on a song that wasnt Michael Jackson?

Im standing by the vocals on their are Michael and in parts they have been layerd/harmonised with backing vocalists for effect.

 

[ScrEAm.Jack5on]

Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

What did damien Shields and Smooth and ele said about this whole thing?

They don't think it sounds like him :/

 

[MaryJackson]

Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

WE MUST MAKE A STAND AND MAKE SONY AWARE THAT WE DON'T ACCEPT THIS CRAP
it's simple.

Well, I have sent my feedback to sony but I don't think it's enough... :doh:

 

[ginvid]

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I am sorry; don't want to disturb but most people agrees anyway that it's not the song with original Michael Jackson vocals.

I understand. But this is not a board for the "most". This is a board for the "all". So, by saying something like this, it takes a crap shot at those who would like to think differently. It is ok what "most" think. But it is also ok for those who are in the minority to think as they choose to without being made to feel less of a fan or person. Because, at this point, all we have is what we feel as individuals until more information is released.

 

[Ashtanga]

According to Taryll, on the album there'll be more supposedly fake songs.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/6s61oa
to all the mj fans… regarding the song "breaking news" i am so sorry you have to deal with this. my uncle loved you so much and would not want it this way. However there are songs that ARE my uncle singing on the upcoming album and I will support those 100% But I will not support "Breaking News" and a few others because it simply is not him. They tried to fool me and they tried to fool you. I told them it would never happen.

:bugeyed

 

[swirly]

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Okay, I'm just listening to 2000 Watts and Threatened now - the two songs that are NOT really like Mike.

2000 Watts - distinctive "yeah's", when he says "Allriiight" he has an "oo" sound at the beginning, there's loads of jumps in his voice (I can't explan very easily what I mean but people like Christina Aguilera and Leona Lewis are really good at - holding one note and jumping up and down with it).

Threatened - His typical hoarse sound that follows all of his sentences. "Threatened" - Michael sings this in his specific way, LOADS of Ad-Libs (Yeas, Aows, Hees) throughout it same as 2000 Watts - no ad-libs are the same.

Breaking News - The first "Aooooow he says - too high (nothing like that in Invinicible) sounds very out of sync with the rest of the song. It does sound like him though. If it's not him there's someone out there that does sound just like him or Sony have messed with it faaaar too much. This song lacks all of those great Ad-Libs that Michael is famous for though, it's just the same background noises on repeat. "You keep looking at the news, looking at the news" really sounds like him though. "Celebraataaay" does NOT haha. "Why is it strange" sounds just like him too in the background.

It's so HARD TO TELL. So frustrating!

Obviously I'm no friggin' expert but it might help to play these 'unusual' songs in a row and see if we can find any sort of similarities? *shrugs*

I must admit though that if I heard 2000 Watts and Threatened NOW and they had never been released I'd have concerns it wasn't him just because it's so different. Who knows!! Like others have said, there's definitely Michael in there somewhere!

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

Sony and the estate are opening themselves up to one hell of a law suit if they say its MJ and its not. do you really think they would do that?

Do you really think that a long time friend Teddy Riley would work on a song that wasnt Michael Jackson?

Yes and yes. I'm sure the base of it is authentic, meaning the raw demo and actual nature of the song, and the instruments put together, basically the bare bones of the track. The production, and synching of voices and the final product we get is soooo NOT Michael.

 

[Derek1984]

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The bridge of the song is weak as well. Lyrics are weak. I just don't like the whole thing. And that's not considering the vocals at all. Just the production and lyrics.

 

[ArabianGirl~AllTheTime]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

Sony and the estate are opening themselves up to one hell of a law suit if they say its MJ and its not. do you really think they would do that?

Do you really think that a long time friend Teddy Riley would work on a song that wasnt Michael Jackson?

Im standing by the vocals on their are Michael and in parts they have been layerd/harmonised with backing vocalists for effect.

yup!! thank u!!

 

[mjchris]

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"do you know where your children are" has the MJ SOUND
Breaking News has not. If you disagree then you don't know the man's work

exactly. and breaking news have the backstreet boys sound.

 

[Sharon B. Sidney]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

Honestly guys, i've sat in work all day today just thinking.


What the hell just happened.

I actually cannot believe that Sony just put that out there as an authentic MJ song. Mrs. Jackson, Paris, Prince, Taj, Latoya...I apologise deeply for doubting you.

If Sony dont pull this crap from the album then many, many fans will boycott it.

Maybe Sony wants us to boycott. Why are they planning a song the fans have already heard as the debut single? Are they wanting the CD to flop?

I posted a thread that got eliminated or merged last night where my mind wondered how this happened and it goes from one end of digital compression to major conspiracy. I want to know what is in the contract that no one is allowed to talk about that the estate signed with Sony.

Question: is it possible that before the two hundred million dollar deal takes effect that so many copies of the first CD must sale? I don't know but I want to know what's going on...

The music quality of the song is great but if that is Michael's voice then someone mixed it down and compressed it clipping off the peak of his voice and possibly even filtered through it.

I say yes it is possible that it is his voice but it doesn't sound like it. If it's not his voice then there is some MAJOR corruption going on.

Perhaps some zealous engineer thought they'd be creative and distort his voice to make it sound different thinking it was being creative but that's just stupid.

One final thought is maybe they compressed the quality of the song to prevent illegal dowloads. Maybe they have some new type of technology that prevents quality transmissions of the songs via internet. That would be great but I'm not leaning towards it.

At this point I understand why his family said it wasn't him, because it does not sound like him. However I know that it could be altered even if it were actually Michael. Another possibility is someone else voice was filtered with Michael's sound to create something similiar to Michael's voice they have that technology out.

 

[djlf]

Re: BREAKING NEWS Countdown and Reactions thread! All discussion in here. [Merged]

Gaz Smooth Elenora Damien MKgenie and all the other insiders- help us out here - what are your sources sayin- surely they must know something -

 

[MJultimatemusiclegen]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

Thing is i think the people who think it is him are either talking themseleves into it by going against their instincts (it took me the first line of the first listen to realise, wheras from the first word of do you know where you children are i knew it was him). Or they have never heard jason malachi before. For me to even consider this to be him, it should sound much closer to him than to jason malachi, instead it sounds much nearer to jason malachi than to Michael Jackson. Just listen to the way he says his name at the begining, there is no way that is him.

 

[PrincessMichaela]

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can someone send me the acapella version? the one I found is badly done...

Me too...

 

[Ape]

Re: Do You Believe Breaking News is an authentic MJ track

I have only one earphone on my headphones working so the side I can hear sounds just like all the Malachi songs (Sorry I didn't know the spelling of it earlier). It also seems strange if it were to be a Michael Jackson song and he keeps repeating his name in it. Maybe it is just a build up to the album and the band is "Breaking news" and the song is titled "Michael Jackson". Maybe it is all done to stir up controversy and interest in the album? I would have to hear the song with both speakers working to really hear how it's meant to be but for now this is what I hear.

 

[Arklove]

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Me too...

...just go on YT and type 'breaking news - acapella'...there's only one that we've been listening to...and to tell you the truth..it doesn't convince me it's actually Michael

 

[WeAreTheWorld]

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Today I got several PM's asking me about any legal consequences. And it got me to think from a logical perspective.

The most famous case we know in the history is "Milli Vanilli" and their record company (Arista) has been sued several times under customer fraud protection act (in USA). They were made to pay from a few dollars to the full purchase price of the album to the customers/fans due to these lawsuits.

Of course we need to check the US state and even international laws for the details and how this laws applies on a location basis but the Milli Vanilli example basically demonstrates to us that they could be sued if they participated in such a fraud and be held financially responsible.

Then the question becomes would they do such thing? First of all, this brings a doubt on not only "Michael" album but any future release that will come from Sony - which means that they must be sabotaging their own deal with the estate that they paid $250M. Secondly with any legal consequences they are risking to refund all or part of the sales revenues.

It simply doesn't make sense that Sony would do something that could potentially hurt them more than $250M in the long run - the same is true for the estate.

(I know some people claim or would claim that "Evil Sony is destroying Michael" but actual evil attempt would require them to destroy Michael without destroying themselves otherwise it's plain stupid)

Also we know that from 3T's tweets it's not all of the songs that there's a doubt against - it's just Cascio tracks. Therefore in my opinion it would be much more easier, less messy and less risky to not include the Cascio tracks in the first place.

Then why did they include and release this song?

Perhaps for the controversy? Who knows? They got everyone talking about the song and the album didn't they? Does this work to their advantage or not? We'll see.

Again from a logical perspective I tend to think that even at a worse case scenario (meaning lawsuit(s)) , Sony has enough to prove that it's Michael's vocals. Of course I'm not saying that the vocals aren't enhanced and that there aren't supplemental vocals added- most probably all of those are done but from a logical and legal perspective Michael's vocals should be on the song.

Again this is a logical perspective without any musical comparisons.

Word.

 

[MJRemixed]

Re: Ted Riley confirmed in a tweet he worked on the song "Breaking News"

Teddy Riley has been shown a fat cheque from $ony - thats why he is saying its MJ.