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What do You Think Now???

  • Now im Sure Its Michael!!!

    Votes: 89 21.4%

  • I Still Think its Not him!!!

    Votes: 223 53.7%

  • I now think that its Michael, but still have my doubts!!

    Votes: 24 5.8%

  • Im Confused!!!!

    Votes: 79 19.0%
  • Total voters
    415
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
I think that what DEANO does not understand is that fans are not boycotting Michael. The fans want simply to know if it is really Michael or not, because it sounds unprecedently unusual.

If they prove it is Michael then fine. Many fans say here that the song is not necessarily bad. That is not the issue. It is a good and modern song. The only issue is is it Michael? That's all we want to know, but with some objective facts. This has nothing to do with conspiracy theory, but simply with what we hear.

If Michael indeed wanted to sound unprecedently unrecognizable on purpose, then we fans are fine with it. However, just beacause Michael is not there with us any more to confirm this, it is completely legitimate for us fans to question the authencity of this unrecognizable voice to our ears.
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This. :agree:
 
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If the record company wanted to release an album of songs Michael Jackson had written, and which were sung by a 'soundalike' would you buy them? Maybe some people would, but I wouldn't. Still, I wouldn't mind if Sony did this as it's providing people with a choice.

To release an album of songs partially written by Michael and partially sung by Michael and call it a 'Michael Jackson album' is a very different thing.

To release an album sung partially by a Michael Jackson imitator and yet credit it as being sung 100% by Michael is on a whole other level.

We cannot allow this to happen.
 
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Michael Jackson: There Is Concrete Proof He Sang the New Songs

By: Roger Friedman in Music // November 10th, 2010

The fans are worried that Michael Jackson‘s new songs–recorded in 2007 at the New Jersey home studio of family friends–aren’t his.

The “Cascio tracks” have caused an uproar. On the planned “Michael” album set for December 14th release, there will be three: “Breaking News,” “Monster,” and “Keep Your Head Up.” (I’ve heard the latter song, and it’s quite wonderful.)

I am told that in addition to forensic tests on the songs to make sure the vocals are Michael’s, Sony sources say Eddie Cascio has provided notes written on lyric sheets in Michael’s unmistakable handwriting.

Sources tell me there’s plenty of proof left behind by Michael that he provided the vocals on 12 tracks. Michael wasn’t just sitting around that whole time in the studio. He worked on the songs, and there’s evidence of it in the notations.

Some of the confusion on the currently streaming “Breaking News” may exist because Michael provided “guide” vocals on the tracks. He didn’t record back up vocals or anything else that would embellish a regular recording. Producers have added back up singing and instrumentals to flesh the records out.

Michael also never finished or polished up the tracks. What’s been done to them is similar to what was applied to the song “This Is It.” Jackson had left just a one track vocal with a piano playing in the background. John McClain added background vocals from Michael’s brothers and other musical elements to give the track life.

Also included on the new album: three songs produced by a hot new producer-writer named Nephew. One of them, which I’ve heard, is called “Best of Joy.” It’s a lovely ballad. And ironic–that Michael’s nephews are causing so much dissent over the album because their songs weren’t used, but three by someone actually named Nephew were. Weird.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/10...-the-new-songs
 
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I'm done arguing about this, suffice to say;

I am sad that Michael will be the one who gets hurt by all of this - and he will.

Rest In Peace Michael.
 
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deano said:
As you well know, Michael is dead. There will never be another Michael jackson release - that people have not already heard & stolen from the web 9well done you lot by the way! - that will contain 100% Michael Jackson vocals. He's not bloody well here to finish them!

Is this what people want?

No future Michael Jackson singles - even if he wrote them, demo recorded them, sang 50% vocals on them, and Sony managed to give us a great finished product - as they are not 100% Michael? Not even 99%!!??

But we can have half finished demo tracks - like some of those given to us as 'out-takes' on recent albums - where Michael sings only some of the vocals, mumbling half way through, because he didn't even finish them?

Oh yes. An album like that, 100% Michael but with demo tracks only 40% finshed, is going to sell like 'hot-cakes on a cold day' isn't it!? The public would piss them selves laughing, but a few thousand 'hard-core' MJ 'fans' would be happy!

90% of the people who would have bought this album would not have cared thet the songs were 'finished' by Sony. As long as they could hear and 'feel' Michael Jackson in them, and they were good/great songs, they would have bought it in the millions.

Some of you don't want 99% MJ though do you? So you start your stupid campaigns and try and ruin the event for everybody.

If you don't agree with it, don't buy it. But why all the effort to get other people to join your cause? Is there something much deeper than you are telling us? Some over-riding hatred bubbling up in you that you can not control? Or are you all just control freeks, who have to have everybody following what you do?
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You don't get it. 100% lead vocals of Michael Jackson, means that no one else is singing in the main vocals, to finish the song. Not finishing unfinished product.
If the songs lyrics aren't recorded from A-Z, the vocals are only 50%, 40%, thats fine, its still Michael Jackson 100%. they must leaved as they are. even if Michael mumbeling only , like in some demos, thats fine.

You are afraid that there will be no other releases, thats way you're willing to accept fake half MJ songs. In end of the day, this is mainly for the fans. The world is going to die of laugh, when they deliver an album with 40% Michael Jackson and rest someone else. thats a joke.
this is not acceptable.
 
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Deano, if the album "flops" as you put it, Sony will still release everything they have of Michael Jackson. They can't return 200 million dollars worth of music to the Estate and ask politely for a refund. It's a business that will try and make it's money back off it's investment. You're living in "La-la Land" if you think we're jeopardizing future releases by refusing to simply believe something against what we collectively agree to be a fraud.
 
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Guys

First You said: We want proofs, and now that you have some, you are rejecting them.

So what's next? What proof do u guys want?

Don't take this coment in the wrong way, I'm just trying to find some answers
 
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fxfan said:
Guys

First You said: We want proofs, and now that you have some, you are rejecting them.

So what's next? What proof do u guys want?

Don't take this coment in the wrong way, I'm just trying to find some answers
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'Proof' cannot be provided by biased parties with vested interests in the success of this fraudulent album or known liars like Roger Friedman.
 
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fxfan said:
Guys

First You said: We want proofs, and now that you have some, you are rejecting them.

So what's next? What proof do u guys want?

Don't take this coment in the wrong way, I'm just trying to find some answers
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The objective proof is Michael's demos or even better a video session of Michael recording the song in the studio. Now after working months and months with producers and experts, don't tell me there is no single demo or video session in the studio to show to the public.
 
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fxfan said:
Guys

First You said: We want proofs, and now that you have some, you are rejecting them.

So what's next? What proof do u guys want?

Don't take this coment in the wrong way, I'm just trying to find some answers
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People will believe what they want to believe.If there is solid evidence people willsay it's lies/people have been paid off etc.

It seems some peoples minds are already made up & won't be changed.I have always believed in keeping an open mind until all the facts are out.
 
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Laura_Jo said:
'Proof' cannot be provided by biased parties with vested interests in the success of this fraudulent album or known liars like Roger Friedman.
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Very well

So, what would be a good proof for you?
 
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I Still Think its Not him!!!
 
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Proof would be video of MJ singing the track or the original raw 'guide' vocal as they put it to listen to.
 
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Laura_Jo said:
'Proof' cannot be provided by biased parties with vested interests in the success of this fraudulent album or known liars like Roger Friedman.
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You're right. Everyone's in on this.
Multiple forensic experts, his longtime manager, producers he's worked with...

I hear the same people faked the moon landing.
 
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fxfan said:
Very well

So, what would be a good proof for you?
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If Michael really recorded demos of these songs let us hear parts of them, unedited and pre-production. But no, the other edits were mysteriously 'deleted'.

They won't let us hear the demos as either we will hear how poor quality and weak the recordings are and the contrast will make it obvious they brought someone in to sing over them or there are no demos as he never sung more than a verse and chorus (if anything at all).
 
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fxfan said:
Very well

So, what would be a good proof for you?
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It's tainted as it so probably the best thing to do would be if Sony took off the Cascio tracks from the album. Maybe that would calm down the fans. Sony needs to react and not by disseminating their PR bla-bla to various journalists and publications.
 
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deano said:
Let me see if I understand the 'Boycott Michael Brigade!" (from here on in to be known as 'BMB's;

If the album is released and it has ANY tracks that YOU CONSIDER are not 100% Michael Jackson vocals, you will boycott the album - and encourage all others to do so?

In that case the album could be 75%, 80%, 90% Michaels own; vision, creation, inspiration, craft, and art, but the 'BMB's will still throw all of Michael's hard work away for their own principles, and two or three tracks the MIGHT not have 100% MJ vocals on?

Is this what the 'BMB's are telling us we should do?

I'm not prepared to discount an album with Michael's name on the cover, and help make it a flop, just because a gang of bullies want me to - due to their own unproven alllegations and agendas.#

I did not let them bully me out of watching 'TII'.
I did not let them bully me out of getting the 'TII' album.
I won't let them dictate to me this time.

Even if this album flops, and Michael is ridiculed for it in the press across the world - which he will be - I will be able to look in the mirror and know I wasn't part of it.

WILL YOU?
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Who is bullying you about boycotting the album? I am not boycotting the album.

The person singing the verses of Breaking News does not sound like Michael Jackson. Obviously, many people have doubts that it is really him. Michael always did many many takes of songs in the studio. All Cascio needs to do is bring out some of the other raw tracks from the sessions. Or explain why it does't sound like him. As far as I can tell Cascio hasn't said a word.

I loved This Is It. I am not part of the Sony conspiracy. In fact, if it is not Michael singing the verses, I would blame Cascio at this point as he may be the only one who really knows.

It is naive and simplistic of you imply that everyone who has dooubts about the authenticity of the lead vocal on Breaking News are bullies, conspiracy theorists and Sony haters. I am none of the above.

And yes, if anyone is going to present an imposter singing Michael Jackson vocals and try to deceptively pass it off as Michael Jackson then the song should fail. There are plenty of songs on the album that are definitely Michael. Everyone can tell it is Michael. What people want is an explanation of why songs such as HMH are instantly recognizable as Michaels vocals and yet Breaking News suppopsedly recorded about the same time, sounds like Jason Malachi.
 
I am told that in addition to forensic tests on the songs to make sure the vocals are Michael’s, Sony sources say Eddie Cascio has provided notes written on lyric sheets in Michael’s unmistakable handwriting.

Sources tell me there’s plenty of proof left behind by Michael that he provided the vocals on 12 tracks. Michael wasn’t just sitting around that whole time in the studio. He worked on the songs, and there’s evidence of it in the notations.

Some of the confusion on the currently streaming “Breaking News” may exist because Michael provided “guide” vocals on the tracks. He didn’t record back up vocals or anything else that would embellish a regular recording. Producers have added back up singing and instrumentals to flesh the records out.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/10...-the-new-songs

What do u guys think about those lyric sheets with MJ's handwriting

Would that make u feel better?
 
fxfan;3064016 said:
I am told that in addition to forensic tests on the songs to make sure the vocals are Michael’s, Sony sources say Eddie Cascio has provided notes written on lyric sheets in Michael’s unmistakable handwriting.

Sources tell me there’s plenty of proof left behind by Michael that he provided the vocals on 12 tracks. Michael wasn’t just sitting around that whole time in the studio. He worked on the songs, and there’s evidence of it in the notations.

Some of the confusion on the currently streaming “Breaking News” may exist because Michael provided “guide” vocals on the tracks. He didn’t record back up vocals or anything else that would embellish a regular recording. Producers have added back up singing and instrumentals to flesh the records out.

http://www.showbiz411.com/2010/11/10...-the-new-songs

What do u guys think about those lyric sheets with MJ's handwriting

Would that make u feel better?
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doesn't prove Michael is on the song though does it?
 
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fxfan said:
Guys

First You said: We want proofs, and now that you have some, you are rejecting them.

So what's next? What proof do u guys want?

Don't take this coment in the wrong way, I'm just trying to find some answers
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Friend , HOW is this proof? They talk about the lyrics written , yet they don't show us. So we are supposed to believe them right away when they say these lyrics exist, and all written by Michael. SHOW us the goddam stuff then, this is hardly proof.
 
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respect77 said:
It has been posted before. It's Sony PR text - almost word by word in a lot of articles published today. And Frank Dileo is Bobby Ewing's manager so he is hardly unbiased.
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Poor Bobby Ewing, getting caught up in this when his voice sounds nothing like the voice of MJ :swoon:
 
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jmoses said:
You're right. Everyone's in on this.
Multiple forensic experts, his longtime manager, producers he's worked with...

I hear the same people faked the moon landing.
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You only know that 'multiple forensic experts' have heard the songs because that's what you've been told by the PR machine. Frank Delio was Cascio's manager and has vested interests. Roger Friedman says Michael was gay and paid rent boys. It's not asking for much to want to hear the original demos as evidence instead of taking their word for it. I wish it was Michael singing on these tracks but it's not.
 
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Now you all understand why there are wars around the world.

Michael was not a religious figure, but certainly was a messenger of LOVE. Yet his followers are starting a fight! Don't let this happen!

Buddha, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad preached LOVE, yet their followers divided into little groups and fabricated their own books putting their words in the messengers' mouths. Political rulers are those who use this strategy of brainwashing people's minds by telling them what to do and uniting them under what is "allowed" what not!

In this case, we have music industry trying to brainwash us after Michael's death. They already succeeded in dividing us. It is up to us, no matter what we believe -if the song is fake or not- to stand up as one and search the indfependent truth together! We must work hand in hand to achieve this. We must stay as unbiased and as objective as possible.

I invite all the fans who have experience in music industry, music, singers, impersonators, lookalikes, engineers, DJs, music teachers, electronic music experts and all other people who could give an objective view and cast light on what is going on to clarify some things here and explain if it is possible to obtain such a voice from Michael through digital manipulation or not.

Please, let's stick together. We all love Michael.
 
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I want Sony & the estate to fix this mess.



Why is this story still dragging & no official words from the estate or Sony.

AND I want the Cascios tracks gone. We are all prejudiced against all these songs.
 
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Pls Look at this guys!
 
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I think people should calm down, and keep open minded. Sometimes when I read this thread, the whole situation remind me of 05 trials, the general public made up their mind based on their assumption without any solid proof. I don't think BN is Michael's(which is just my opinion, not the FACT), but I would like to wait for estate/sony's explanation or the evidence they provided before putting my conclusion.
 
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The simple thing to do would be to release the original, unedited demo on the official www.michaeljackson.com website. Why are we meant to believe it's out there, and take their word for it? Like one of his nephews said (I forget which one from 3T), when you have doubts about the authenticity of original photos, a professional photographer will be able to provide evidence in the form of OTHER pictures and even negatives... however when it came to them asking for proof that their uncle sang this song, "It has all been deleted" was the answer.

Why on earth would Sony or ANYONE release written statements that the track is authentic when they can nail this on the head and release the original demo and be done with it? They like to TELL us these demos exist and then do nothing to back that claim up...

I just find it mind boggling that it's come to this. We need forensic experts to prove that a song that doesn't sound like Michael Jackson, somehow IS Michael Jackson.
 
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